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Wisconsin Preview Election - April 2nd, Hour 3
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Before we get to the issue at hand, which is tariffs, and I'm going to use Bill O'Reilly language so you understand it in a minute.
What did you think?
I had Kid Rock on TV last night, and he was at the dinner with Donald Trump, Bill Maher, and Dana White.
I have more information that I'm not going to share, but just based on what Kid Rock said, it really couldn't have gone better.
Everyone was a little surprised.
Maher was nervous in the beginning, which kind of surprises me.
He doesn't seem like the type of guy that would be nervous.
He goes before big crowds every, you know, almost every week.
But what are your thoughts on the fact that it even took place?
Well, number one, I ran out and bought a suit just like Kid Rock as soon as I saw him on your program last night on television.
So that's by the way, that's an old evil knievel holdover, but it looked cool.
Yeah, so I'm getting a new suit for courtesy of Rock.
Donald Trump is Lucid Life is transactional, as both you and I know better than anybody else in the country because we've known so long.
This is a transaction for him.
So he is trying to convince another media person that he is right, that he is a positive force, and that would be Mr. Maher.
So Trump does this all the time.
He tried to convince Bob Woodward.
I told Donald Trump, you're never going to be able to convince Woodward because he's writing anti-Trump books, and that is what he has signed the contract to do.
So no matter what you say to him, he's going to write an anti-Trump book.
And he wrote, I think, four of them.
He tried to convince the New York Times correspondent.
What's that woman's name?
She's on MSNBC all the time.
Maggie Haberman.
He's trying to convince her.
Again, that's never going to happen.
You can't work at the New York Times and be sympathetic to Donald Trump.
But he's changed since then.
I mean, that goes back to his first term.
He thought that he might, if he struck up relationships with people, that they'd be reasonable.
And you and I both know that that would be impossible with those two examples.
Right.
But he's still optimistic in the sense that his persuasive powers can bring people across a line to treat him fairly.
And that's why Marr got the invitation.
Now, Marr himself is in a tough slot.
But in fairness to the president, though, he was kind of skeptical of the idea.
He did it as a favor because Kid Rock asked him to do it, and he's friends with Kid Rock and he's friends with Dana White.
And I don't, he was somewhat reluctant, it seemed to me, to do it, but he did it as a favor to them.
It was not something that he was seeking to do.
Okay, but he did it.
He did it.
And so let me get to my second point.
With Maher, it's a little bit different because Maher is in the morning Joe zone.
And that's why Maher was nervous.
Because Maher now is meeting with the devil.
Because in Los Angeles, where he not only works, but he's ingrained in that liberal community.
And with his HBO show, which is 90% liberal people watching him, he is now, you know, in a battlefield.
And you saw what happened to Scarborough when he went to visit Trump after the election.
His audience turned away from him.
He has not recovered to this day.
That's why Maher's nervous because Maher knows that the people who watch him, most of them despise Donald Trump.
You know what the difference is?
Maher didn't seek this out either, in fairness to him.
Kid Rock proposed it.
They both said they were both a little hesitant, but they agreed.
I'll tell you, I'll put it this way.
If Joe Biden had invited me to the White House for a meeting, I would have gone.
I don't think my audience would have turned on me.
I would have been myself in front of him.
I wouldn't have tried to make peace the way Joe and Mika were trying to kiss up to him.
I don't think he went there to kiss Trump's ring.
I think he went because it was an interesting, fun experience.
But if you went to see Joe Biden, you would have to explain to the audience.
And the audience on the right is not, generally speaking, as hateful as the audience on the left, in my experience.
We've got plenty of haters on the right.
We've got plenty of them.
As long as I stayed true to who I am and didn't go there to kiss their ass, I think I'd be fine.
And if I explained all the issues that concerned me, which I would have, and all the disagreements I had with him, then I would be speaking on behalf of my audience as far as I'm concerned.
And that's how I would handle it.
That's how you would handle it.
Well, I can speak from a factual basis.
What do you think I'm speaking from, a non-factual basis?
But I can give you a concrete example, and I'm sure you could give me one too.
But I'm going to give you the one first, if you don't mind.
Obama.
Barack Obama.
When I interviewed Obama three times, I got mail from the right that I was too soft on him.
So you were too soft on him because I didn't call him a name or I didn't dump water on his head or whatever these people wanted me to do.
I was tough.
Those interviews are tough.
You can Google them and see them.
But I wasn't disrespectful.
You know what the difference is?
And I'm going to defend you here.
It is now.
Would you go full Barney Frank on Barack Obama?
Of course not.
When you're dealing with a president, it is a very difficult interview.
I'm actually glad I didn't have to interview Barack Obama because I would have to sit back even though I and resist the urge to correct him when he was wrong and when he's running out the clock because they always put a clock on people like you and me in those situations.
Sure.
I just finished a message of the day, which will be on billoreilly.com tomorrow morning.
It's free.
Everybody can go in there.
And the message of the day says that when Joe Biden was elected, I actually was rooting for Joe Biden to bring down prescription drug costs.
I was rooting for him to seal up the southern border and to get peace in Ukraine.
As an American citizen, I was rooting for Biden to be successful in not only those, but others, because it's good for the country.
Today, no matter what Trump does, the haters on the left want him to fail.
Deporting criminal migrants?
No, he can't have that.
Uncovering wasteful.
Oh, no.
Did you see Jamie Raskin wants all the Trende Aragua gang members sent to El Salvador brought back?
I would accept it as long as they live in his house with ankle bracelets.
How's that?
That's the point between the right and the left that I'm trying to make.
I wanted Biden to solve vexing problems that were hurting Americans.
I wanted him to do it.
The left does not want Trump.
If he cured cancer, they'd still hate him, Bill.
You see, that's the difference.
Listen, I would have been, but if Biden's policies would work, I'd be happy for American success.
Americans suffered with high gas prices.
Americans died as a result of open borders.
Americans were raped.
Americans were victims of violent crimes.
The fentanyl-opioid crisis has never been this bad.
His economic policies, his energy policies, a disaster.
His foreign policy, a disaster.
And frankly, it was a clear and present danger with his cognitive state.
Let me move on.
I'd be negligent as a host if I didn't move on to the topic of the day, which is reciprocal tariffs.
Now, I'm going to use Bill O'Reilly language so you understand.
You know, you talk a lot about hosing people, and you talk a lot about the folks.
Here's what frustrates me.
Americans that, frankly, that I would argue are institutionalized in the sense that they have institutionalized thinking.
In other words, people can be myopic.
They only know one way.
Donald Trump is an iconoclast that is constantly thinking outside of the box, i.e.
Panama, i.e.
reciprocal tariffs, i.e.
making a deal with Greenland, i.e.
peace in Europe, peace in the Middle East, energy dominance, you know, deporting these criminals.
He does things that average politicians won't do.
Here's my frustration.
This is where it drives me crazy.
You pick the country, the European Union, European countries that have tariffs on our products that we don't have tariffs on theirs.
Eight German cars sold in America for every one sold in Germany because of a 10% tariff and a 20% VAT tax, which makes it cost-prohibitive.
Canada taxes a whole variety of American products, and we don't do it back to them.
And the American people, the folks pill, have been getting hosed by India, Canada, China, European nations, the European Union, and it's gone on for decades and decades.
Trump is saying, no more.
We're not going to be treated unfairly.
If you want free and fair trade, you can have it with us.
Otherwise, you're going to tariff us.
We're going to tariff you back.
And somehow people are looking at this like Armageddon and the death of, you know, the death of America as we know it, when historically that's not been the case, which I went through earlier in the program.
That's because those people want Trump to fail.
They're not looking out for the folks.
They're not.
Right.
So any fair-minded person would say, doesn't matter whether you're conservative or liberal, we should have equal footing in our trade relations with the rest of the world.
Okay?
Now, we might give them a few points based upon Vietnam, for example, being a much poorer situation and we have a lot more power.
By the way, Vietnam just changed their tariff policy because of Trump pressure.
Bill, do you know that there's $4 trillion since the threat of tariffs that had been committed to the United States as investments?
$4 trillion?
He's already won this battle.
But see, that's a long-run play.
So what you have now, and this is the problem that President Trump has to deal with.
In theory, he's right.
But in practice, if there's six months of a contraction of the economic economy of the American economic system, he's going to suffer because people don't look out.
We're not a patient people.
Most Americans don't understand tariffs.
They don't know what a VAT tax is.
They don't get that.
Which is why all the other presidents since World War II have totally ignored this.
The only exception was Dwight Eisenhower, and he was very, very gentle because of the Marshall Plan.
But not one president of the United States since World War II has taken on this tariff unfairness.
So it's a shock to the economic system.
And that is why you're seeing the stock market go up and down.
The Trump haters seize on this.
They don't care whether there's $4 trillion coming back to help the United States infrastructure.
All they care about is harming Donald Trump.
And that, in my opinion, is un-American.
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And, you know, I'm just, I'll give you a quick example, Bill, why this infuriates me and why I think the media is stupid.
I think the punditry class is stupid.
I think Democrats are stupid.
I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, it's not Liberation Day, it's Recession Day.
No, that's not the history of tariffs that they've been used in America.
Pat View Canada has a great column out about this.
Anyway, but let me tell you where we are.
And this is what really infuriates me because most people don't know we've been ripped off left and right by countries that are supposed to be friendly countries.
Brazil charges 18% on ethanol.
Japan charges a 700% tariff on American rice.
The European Union, 10% tariff on all American-made cars.
And then countries like Germany have a value-added tax, a national sales tax at about a 20% rate.
So that makes it cost-prohibitive in Germany to buy an American car.
And meanwhile, they're selling eight German cars in America for every one car we sell there.
We're getting ripped off.
We're getting slapped in the face.
You know, on top of that, the European Union, they've got a 10% tariff on all-American cars, 50% tariff on American dairy products.
That hurts our farmers.
They even tariff American guns.
And all President Trump is saying, well, hold on a second.
We're supposed to be allies.
We're supposed to be friends.
I believe in free and fair trade.
And you guys have been taking advantage of us.
You've been hosing the folks.
And I'm telling you what's going to happen, Bill.
And I went through this in great detail.
All of the investments that these countries are now making in America is just going to continue to grow.
I mean, we've got Hyundai, Apple, $500 billion over four years, NVIDIA, SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Johnson Johnson, CMA, CGM, a shipping company, drug companies, Geo Aerospace, Nissan and Honda were going to build factories in Mexico.
They've decided to move them to America.
Over $4 trillion, when you include foreign investments from like the UAE and Saudi Arabia, that they are committing to this country because they don't want Trump's tariffs.
It's that simple.
So it's already working.
It does take time.
But why are so many Americans willing to get punched in the face, even by our allies, and take it?
I'm tired of America being a succored nation.
And Trump's saying no more.
And I like it.
Yeah, I mean, if you take a long view on it, the wider view, then it makes perfect sense.
But people live moment by moment.
They live day to day.
They don't understand the dynamics of macroeconomics.
You know, most people determine what they like and don't like about what their experience is that day.
And when you hear a constant barrage, which you do from the corporate media, that we're going to a recession and you're going to lose your job, you're going to lose this, you're going to lose that, then people get frightened.
And that's what's happening.
Fear is a tremendous political motivator, tremendous.
So if you step back on emotionally and you say, look, this could be setting up the American Renaissance economically for 30 years, if we can get these deals in place, yeah.
But if you're going, well, I don't know if I lose my job, and that's what a lot of people are reacting to.
That's why the polls are 50-50 on it.
The new polls that came out this week on the tariffs are 50-50.
People are afraid.
Donald Trump is a daring guy.
You want to use that word, daring, and a lot of people like to play it safe.
He's an iconoclast.
He's a businessman.
He's a constant negotiator.
And he believes in fundamental fairness, and he fights back.
And he thinks out of the box, and people aren't used to it.
They have institutionalized thinking because they've been indoctrinated in schools.
Let me give you, let me ask you one question about the elections last night because I think it's being misinterpreted by so many different people in the media.
Now, we had Brad Schimmel on this program, and I didn't want to bring a lot of attention to it, but I think it's an interpretation of an election that didn't go our way.
Now, by a whopping margin, 26 points Wisconsin voters backed photo ID voter requirement in their elections.
All right, that was huge.
The Republicans won the two Florida seats.
These April elections are always a crapshoot.
They're turnout elections.
The problem with Brad Schimmel was he once called Wisconsin's abortion law from 1849 valid.
And the law does not even allow an exception for rape, incest, or the life of the mother.
And he further went on to say, I don't know how you can reconcile a faith in Christ with abortion.
There's no way that works.
Now, was it the driving issue?
It was a big issue.
And this is a problem.
When Josh Shapiro won over Mastriano and Pennsylvania, Mastriano was no exceptions, no exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life candidate.
Josh Shapiro won the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania by the highest margin to a non-incumbent since the 1940s.
Bill, you cannot expect to win elected office unless you are in the reddest of red districts.
And Wisconsin is a swing state.
You can't expect to win if you have that position on abortion.
That is just a simple fundamental truth of life.
It is a fact.
So the idea that this is a referendum on Donald Trump, Donald Trump didn't get involved in the race.
He knew that this guy had this position.
He didn't pick this candidate.
He endorsed him after to give him a little support, but he knew I spoke to him before the election.
He says he makes no exceptions.
He's not going to win.
He knew it the day before.
We had a discussion about it.
Well, I live in a secular society, and a lot of women are not going to take into account any opposition to abortion.
You might be right on that.
But I'm not so worried about Wisconsin.
I don't think it's a swing state any longer.
I think that the way they'll conduct themselves up there is they'll make it a blue state.
It's only 10 electoral votes.
You need to worry about it because they're about to do redistricting.
The state Supreme Court there is going to gerrymander it, and Democrats will likely pick up two to three seats.
That's a big deal with a small majority for Republicans.
Yeah, but that's not going to overturn the seven that Trump has.
Florida was a bigger thing because that now becomes, along with Texas, the two leading red states.
And the media lied about the races.
You and I both knew, and we both said to our audiences, that these Republicans were going to win handily, and they did.
Well, I'd never say that to my audience because I don't want anyone to take any election ever for granted.
I never say anything's in the bag.
That you didn't buy, that they were going to get waxed.
No, I knew that was a bunch of crap.
And then you said that.
So Florida and Texas, they are the leaders in the red traditional movement.
Wisconsin, unfortunately, is going to go over to blue.
And that's what happened yesterday.
All right, Mr. O'Reilly.
Next time, breakfast is on me again.
This way, that's the only way I can get you to attend a breakfast with me.
All right, and I'll drive to that breakfast in my new Tesla.
So you know.
What's the word of the day, Bill?
The word of the day is no sugar.
I'm with you on that.
No, that is not the word of the day.
Your memory is failing.
I'm beginning to wonder if you're becoming Joe Biden this year.
You don't remember the word?
I just told it to you.
Go ahead.
What's the word?
No, I'm going to.
You're going to have to listen for the rest of the show.
I'll say it after you get off the air.
All right.
I'm sorry I forgot it.
I'm just delirious here with joy that I'm getting a free Tesla.
All right.
Linda, tell him the word of the day.
I'm too busy listening to him laugh, which I think is hysterical.
The word is liberation.
Liberation.
I got it.
Liberation.
Word of the day, Bill.
You know what's cool, though?
If you do give Bill a Tesla, then you and Bill can race each other in your S-plats, which I think everybody does not have the courage to go as fast as I've done.
First of all, Bill O'Reilly.
I'll get on a track with O'Reilly.
I assure you.
I will get on a track with O'Reilly.
We'll film it.
And the winner, I'll bet any amount of money he wants for any charity that he chooses.
Oh, my God.
You're going to buy him a Tesla and donate to a charity?
Boy, oh, boy.
Well, no, no, he has to win the Tesla.
And by the way, if O'Reilly wins the Tesla, everyone's going to think it's rigged.
Well, he doesn't have to win then.
Maybe you just buy him one and we just support you.
Why should I buy O'Reilly and Tesla?
Bill, I think you need to be liberated and given a Tesla.
Do you agree?
Of course he agrees.
He loves free stuff.
That's the liberal side of O'Reilly.
I'm pretty sure it's Sean.
I think it's Sean.
I don't know.
Bill.
O'Reilly.
Bill fell asleep.
Bill, did you fall asleep?
Listening, kid, Linda, stick up for me.
The North Carolina race between you and I, we're going to go down there and you're going to lose a ton of money.
I'm all in.
But Bill won't train with me one day.
I invited him to train with me in Sensei.
He won't come.
He refuses to come.
It'll be the best thing you ever did in your life.
It'll change your life.
You kick people, Handy.
You're fierce.
But I'm not going to kick you, and I'm not going to gouge your eyes out, and I'm not going to rip out your trach, and I'm not going to choke you out.
Oh, my God.
We went from liberation to you.
I'm not going to hear Fox Head, but I gouge you.
I'm going to make sure that.
What is in the Greenberry cereal?
What is going on?
It's not the Greenberry cereal.
It's just.
Is it the Chef IQ steaks?
I mean, what is happening?
No, I would never do any of that.
I would be very, very deferential to Bill, and we would work at his level, whatever it is.
He's starting out.
I've been doing it for 14 years.
There's no hope for you, O'Reilly.
None.
I've tried enough.
Anyway, sir, God bless you.
Thank you for being with us.
Appreciate your time.
800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Luke is in Wisconsin.
Luke, how are you?
Glad you called.
Yeah, good afternoon, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's going on?
My family and I left Minnesota when Tim Walz shut down my business, church, and kids' school.
We moved to Wisconsin and wanted to comment about.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, why did he shut it down?
During COVID, it was ridiculous.
All the nonsense he had.
It was totally political, the movement he made.
It was devastating to our business.
Our church was shut down for goodness, almost a year.
It was pretty awful during COVID in Minnesota.
Let me tell you that.
Well, it might be a good thing in the end.
Sometimes things happen for a reason.
It sounds like you're happy in Wisconsin and you're probably a Green Bay Packer fan and not a Minnesota Viking fan anymore.
Yeah, I'm in that transition, certainly.
But I wanted to comment on the election yesterday.
And I think you're right on the abortion issue.
I'm very pro-Jesus, pro-life.
And they really, really hammered on that issue with Brad.
And the Democrats have done a very good job of evolving their message from the legacy media.
And you're certainly seeing it on YouTube and on all social media channels.
And they did a much better job with their messaging.
And their ground game was very good, even though it was decent voter turnout.
They had a fortune in out-of-state money come into the state.
And Brad Schimmel's past comments on abortion were devastating to him in this race.
And he called the 1849 abortion law, which is precedent, valid, and saying that there's nothing in that law to make invalid.
Now, the law does not allow exceptions for rape, incest, or the mother's life.
Now, I would argue in most states, if not all, that is a political death sentence.
You can't win elected office with that position.
I just don't believe you can.
Anyway, my friend, Luke, thank you.
You made a good move in my view.
Still a little too cold for my taste, but I love the people in Wisconsin.
They're salt of the earth.
We appreciate you.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel, what President Trump is calling Liberation Day, announcing tariffs, reciprocal tariffs on nations that have been taken advantage of us.
We'll get full, complete reaction.
Howard Luttnick, the Commerce Secretary, Charles Payne, will weigh in on all of this.
The Democrats in disarray, leaderless.
Now Charlemagne the God saying Schumer and Jeffries and Newsome need to go.
Newt Gingrich, Mark Wayne, Mullen will join in.
Also, the left, why are they trying to turn Luigi Mangione into Robin Hood?
Politico says Trump may lose Gen Z supporters by going after the death penalty for this guy that killed the United Healthcare CEO, murdered him in cold blood.
Can't believe that insanity, but we'll get to that.
We have Dr. Drew Pinsky.
Also, Colorado Democrats roll out a bill to consider misgendering a discriminatory act and other crazy stories.
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We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
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I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
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