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Fighting Gangs - March 17th, Hour 2
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Hour two, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941-Sean.
Our number, if you want to be a part of the program, we have a problem, and that is the Democrats, what they cannot get done electorally at the ballot box, what they can't get done legislatively.
They run to liberal courts and they hope to enact their agenda and stall Trump's agenda.
The agenda, which, by the way, is like an 80-20 issue at this point, which is the deportation of known criminals that we have inside the country.
It's not a complicated issue.
And anyway, it has now become a battle within the courts.
And it's successful.
I mean, the president has been successful.
But anyway, the administration deported nearly 300 members of the Trende Aragua gang under what's called the Alien Enemies Act.
And you have a federal judge trying to block it because it hasn't been used in a couple of hundred years, but it's still on the books.
It is still the law of the land.
And we have one congressman that has now moved forward with an effort to move forward and impeach the judge involved in this, Pam Bondi, slamming this DC trial judge who blocked Trump from using the Alien Enemies Act to deport trende Aragua gang members.
And, you know, the reason, you know, that the judge is giving here, this delay makes absolutely no sense at all.
And it is basically the history of the federal judiciary system.
And this is where liberals go when they can't win at the ballot box.
This is where they can't win what they do when they can't win any other way.
Do I think in the end that Donald Trump is going to win?
I do.
And we'll have to see how this plays out over time.
But in the meantime, we're kind of stuck with where we are.
And by the way, the president did thank the president of El Salvador for taking gang members that were deported.
And we know that Elon Musk and Congress and elected officials have asked for the impeachment of this judge that scuttled Trump's order.
El Salvador's Trump-friendly president mocks this U.S. judge's deportation pause.
And you've got Jasmine Crockett, who along with, as I discussed in the last hour, AOC now leading the Democratic Party as they try to, I guess, depose Chucky Schumer.
Anyway, Crockett attacking the Trump administration for deporting members of Trende Aragua.
Tell me how that makes any sense.
And anyway, it's driving down immigration.
And we'll see how this plays out in the courts.
It's going to be interesting.
I think that in the end the Trump people win.
Anyway, President Trump defended the use of the Alien Enemies Act, and this is what he said.
The Alien Enemies Act has only been invoked all during times of war.
Do you feel that you're using it?
Well, this is a time of war because Biden allowed millions of people, many of them criminals, many of them at the highest level.
They emptied jails out of the nations, emptied their jails into the United States.
It's an invasion.
And these are criminals, many, many criminals.
Murderers, drug dealers at the highest level, drug lords, people from mental institutions.
That's an invasion.
They invaded our country.
So this isn't, in that sense, this is war.
Now, Tom Holman responded to a reporter about the president using the Alien Enemies Act.
Here's what he said.
An old law?
Not as old as Constitution.
We still pay attention to that, don't we?
Ooh, ouch.
Anyway, then he further went on to say he doesn't care if judges rule his actions are illegal.
He's not going to stop.
Anyway, David Schoen, former counsel for President Trump, Civil Liberties Attorney, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, best-selling author.
Welcome both of you to the program.
David, we'll start with you.
I think they are on solid ground in their argument, and I think the president was very clear.
Why Democrats want to die on this hill to put the rights of illegals over the safety of Americans is inexplicable to me, but I'm having a hard time understanding that party right now.
One way or another, they are going to be deportable, whether it's under the Alien Enemies Act or some other statutory basis.
There are some easier ways to go, by the way.
It's clear under statute 8 USC 1227 that these people are deportable, period.
End of story.
Why?
Because that statute tracks 8 USC 1182, which makes them inadmissible in the first place.
And so, and by the way, President Trump, it should be noted, has already categorized this gang as a foreign terrorist organization.
Clearly, under these provisions of these statutes, they're deportable.
He decided to go with the Alien Enemies Act.
One would think, because the president has great authority under that act.
There's even a question from the 1948 case whether the accord should intervene.
There hasn't been any formal declaration of war here, but President Trump has said, as the commander-in-chief, that this is irregular warfare that they've engaged in through their invasion.
These are criminals, so there shouldn't be any constituency for keeping them in the country.
He will win one way or another.
I agree with that.
What's your assessment, Greg Jarrett?
100% agree with both you and David.
And this is another lesson in why you should pay no attention to the mainstream media.
They would have you believe that Trump has commandeered an obscure law to wrongfully deport these violent gang members who are terrorists.
The truth is, the law is not obscure.
It's not being wrongfully used.
The Alien Enemies Act was passed by Congress, signed into law in 1798.
It is well established.
It's never been repealed.
It has been reviewed by courts numerous times.
Four different presidents have invoked it, three of them Democrats in the 20th century.
And the act is not limited to wartime authority, as some of the media claim.
No, Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman both used the act well after both world wars ended.
It permits the president to remove without a hearing what he designates to be alien enemies whenever there is a declared war or a predatory incursion.
Now, what does that mean?
A predatory incursion is broadly defined in the law as entry into the U.S. for purposes contrary to the nation's interests or law.
And that language gives President Trump broad latitude to protect the safety and security of its citizens.
David mentioned in the 1948 case, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Harry Truman's use of the act, ruled that it is completely constitutional.
The name of the case is Ludake versus Watkins.
And this is the important part.
The high court stated that a president's decision under the Act, and I'm quoting here, precludes judicial review of the order.
So in other words, a judge cannot second guess the president.
So would that then allow the president to move forward regardless of what this judge's ruling says?
It does.
Now, they have filed for a stay in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals pending a hearing.
And, you know, I think if they're going to follow Supreme Court precedent, the D.C. Circuit Court will reverse what Judge James Boasberg did.
You know, federal district court judges, even pellet judges, cannot make new laws.
And as the Supreme Court said in 1948, this is the law of the land, and it must be followed.
You cannot, as a lowly court judge, decide you're smarter and better than the Supreme Court.
And so, you know, Boseberg didn't care what the Supreme Court had previously ruled.
I think he's being influenced by his political views and perhaps personal animus toward Trump, and he is not following the dictates of the law.
So if we look at, you know, the adverse rulings against the Trump agenda so far, it is in keeping with the history of what Democrats do when they lose at the ballot box, what they can't get done legislatively.
They go to the liberal courts, and there have been 15 injunctions so far on the Trump agenda.
Caroline Levitt spoke out about this late last week and said, fighting back by appealing, fighting back by using the full weight of the White House counsel's office and our lawyers at the federal government who believe that this injunction is entirely unconstitutional.
It seems like this is now the strategy of choice David Shown that the left has taken on.
Yeah, there's no question.
Look, we all believe, you believe certainly in the idea of judicial review.
We have a three-party system, a three-part system, and that's appropriate.
But it should not go unnoticed that the court of choice generally with these things is the district court in D.C.
We have decisions coming from the same judges who, you know, clearly, if the name Trump was in a case presented to Judge Beryl Howell, for example, in the D.C. district court, you know the result before you hear any of the evidence all that.
That's a perversion of our system.
It can't be that all of these decisions by the judges are then made on political grounds.
Then we don't have a three-part system working properly.
That's not really judicial review.
So for sure, that's the choice here.
You know, you're going to see they don't have the numbers in Congress, or you would have seen an impeachment movement already afoot from AOC and that crowd.
You know, we're going to keep seeing this all throughout the administration, you can be sure.
This activist judge, it is a U.S. district judge, actually added in his ruling that any plane containing suspected members of Trende Aragua that was planning to take off or that was already in the air needed to be returned to the U.S.
The White House blasted the judge and said, well, they're out of U.S. airspace at this point.
We have no control over it.
Would that be a fair interpretation, Greg Jarrett?
Yeah, it absolutely is.
And what's so curious is Bosberg let it be known that he wanted those planes carrying the TDA terrorists to turn around midair, return to the U.S., but he didn't put that in his final written order.
Now, why?
Well, because he surely realized no judge has the power to issue an order redirecting flights that are beyond U.S. soil and airspace.
But, you know, his willingness to verbalize such a lawless desire is really a window into the thinking of this activist judge.
And there are several troubling aspects of his TRO.
I mean, the judge acted without bothering to hear from the government.
Second of all, there are five-named plaintiffs in the ACLU's petition.
Well, where are they?
They're in Texas, where a D.C. judge has no jurisdiction.
And third, the exclusive remedy is a habeas corpus petition.
It's not a temporary restraining order.
And, you know, finally, this judge sort of magically transforms the entire case into a class action, extending his restraining order to all non-citizens that might be affected by Trump's invocation of the AEA.
I mean, that is judicial activism run amok.
Quick break, right back more with Greg Jarrett.
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Let's go to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Jeremy in Missouri.
Jeremy, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I got a great idea.
Good.
What's going on?
Giveaway.
Oh, great.
What's up?
So I was thinking maybe you, Trump, and Elon could all sign the Dash in a paint pen, kind of personalize the giveaway.
It's a great idea.
I mean, I'd have to get them to agree to it.
Obviously, I would be the easy one to get to sign it.
But it's a great idea.
It would add value to it, in my opinion, don't you think?
Absolutely.
I mean, you guys could do it in red, white, and blue, too.
You know, all-American car and, you know, the new American president is doing the great things that he's doing.
I'm all for it.
I think it'd be amazing.
I think it'd be amazing, too.
Let me ponder that idea and see if I might be able to somehow pull that off.
That means I'd have to like ship it to DC, ship it to the White House, get it in there at a time when Elon and the president are there, ask them to go out and sign it and then have it shipped to Florida.
Then I'd have to sign it and then ship it to wherever the winner happens to be.
So might be a lot of shipping.
I'm willing to do it if I can pull it off, though.
That's a great idea.
Anyway, Jeremy, appreciate your call.
Let's say hi to Morgan in my free state of Florida.
Morgan, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Great.
I have a short and sweet and non-political question.
I love it.
I know that you do too.
So my question is: what is your go-to favorite recipe to make for dinner?
Okay, I am very, very basic.
You're specifically asking about dinner.
Most nights, I have meat with a lot of grilled onions and sometimes a light vegetable, and that's basically it.
So it's either steak or chicken or a burger or pork ribs or pork chop.
That's pretty much my staple.
All right.
So no favorite recipes.
Well, I mean, if I could cook like I and eat like I used to eat, and I really don't have a desire to do it.
Usually when I get seafood, I will get seafood out rather than cook it in.
But I mean, I could whip up a steak in no time.
I mean, I do it like it's, and with Chef IQ Sense, forget it.
It's even easier.
What's your favorite meal?
In Florida, I say seafood all the way.
Okay, so what's your favorite seafood?
Probably scallops, seared scallops.
I've been trying to master.
All right.
That's not hard to master.
This is easy to master.
I like seared scallops.
I like shrimp.
Either I like grilled shrimp and I like, I'll take a shrimp cocktail occasionally.
I like lobster tail.
I like crab legs and I like crab claws.
That's about what I eat seafood-wise.
And I will eat an occasional salmon or halibut.
There you go.
Well, my go-to also is crab cakes.
That's one of my favorites.
Well, okay, add that to my list.
I like crab cakes too, but I don't eat them very often.
And I can make a really mean crab cake, too.
Oh, yeah, me too.
We'll have a cookoff next time you're down in Palm Coast.
Okay.
Thank you, Morgan.
God bless you.
Glad you're out there.
Angela, West Virginia, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
How are you today?
I'm good.
How are you this Monday?
What's going on?
I'm great.
I'm just chiming in today to discuss further, like you did last week, whether or not you should go on the view.
And I think I speak for many, many Americans to say absolutely not.
I think by going on that show, you legitimize the show.
Nobody cares.
They're irrelevant.
No one cares what celebrities think anymore and what they say.
And they speak vile things about our president when he's trying to do the best possible job.
And all they do is tear down.
I'd like to take it a step further and ask that the executives of Fox News stop telling us what they said today because we don't care what the view says.
Well, sometimes it is entertaining to watch them bubble and fizz like Alka-Seltzer.
So we do play an occasional clip for kicks and giggles and entertainment purposes only.
So we definitely do that.
I'm hoping that they'll just go away silently and no one will ever know that they.
Well, they're definitely on cancellation watch like so many other shows.
Just like Chucky Schumer's now on, you know, cancellation watch as the Senate Minority Leader.
Just like all these late-night comedy shows, they're on official cancellation watch too.
And just like a lot of news programs on fake news, CNN, MSDNC, you saw the bloodbath at MSDNC.
I mean, they're all on official cancellation watch.
Right.
No, it's in many ways it's kind of been miraculous.
I'm in my 29th year at Fox and have out, you know, in spite of a lot of people that would have predicted otherwise, maybe in the beginning, rightly so, my demise of wanting my demise.
I've outlasted all of them and I've got a lot in me and I'm continuing now for a good while.
I'm not going anywhere anytime soon that I know of.
That's great.
That's wonderful.
That's what we want to hear.
And, you know, I'm from this great state of West Virginia, and West Virginia carried every single county for president this past time.
This was wonderful.
Yes.
Because years ago, we used to be Democratic, and we've come a long way.
Not anymore.
You made the full transition like Florida and like Ohio and like a lot of other states.
And if we can convert a few more, I'd like to see Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan become reliably red states.
And if that happens, then you know what?
The country will be in a lot better shape.
On the issue of the view, that poll is now officially shut down.
I won 50 to 49.
It was a very, very close vote that almost forced me onto that show.
Thank goodness for all of you that voted no.
Thank you.
I think Linda was trying to stack the deck there.
Thank goodness, because we don't want their ratings to go up because you're on it.
You know what I mean?
Their ratings would because people would see you.
It was sort of, I'm in a no-win situation in that environment.
Here's the problem.
And whether I would invite them on my show or I go on their show, here's the problem is they're going to lash out with their Trump arrangement.
They're going to say false things.
And then I'm in a position that I'd be never-ending, non-interruptive, which my audience does not like.
And they've communicated that loudly to me over the years.
Or I let them talk and then people are mad at me.
Why didn't you fix that?
Why didn't you correct them?
Why didn't you, because it's every other word I'll have to correct.
So to me, it doesn't lend itself to really good television, if that makes sense.
I mean, I tried to have a discussion the last time with James Carville, and he's just spewing out things that are false.
And he said, fact-check me, fact-check me.
So the next night I fact-checked him.
Right.
And, you know, you don't want to have to just be defense mode the whole time because they don't listen to reason.
They're totally irrational.
Totally.
There are not many Democrats right now that are in their right mind.
We must have pity on them.
Anyway, I do appreciate the call.
Thank you so much for being with us, Angela.
Check in anytime.
Mark in Ohio.
What's up, Mark?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
What's going on?
Hey, so I'm in Connecticut.
Sorry.
Hey, I was wanting to talk about these protests because I've seen a ton of it.
And for the regular person watching, you really, you know, you just can't understand why they're there and what they're doing there.
But I just saw yesterday between Indeed and I forget the other one.
You know, the big job board that they have online.
There's 762 advertisements for paid protesting just in New York City alone.
So for everybody that's watching it that says, how do these people think that this is okay or that's okay, whatever the cause is for the day, it's all nothing to do with what they're thinking.
It's all they're getting paid.
Okay.
Now, we have exposed this in the past, and that is that there are groups that are organizing and they're paying people and they're moving people in.
And there are groups that are even handing out talking points and the questions.
And they're trying to sabotage Republican town halls to create a false impression that Republicans are not being liked right now when all the polls are to the contrary.
And if this is the Democratic tactic, let them continue because we have now three polls consecutively that show their approval rating in the 20s, the lowest it's been in decades and decades.
So if that's what they want to do, I'm okay with it.
But if you're an elected official, you do need to be on the lookout a little bit and understand that these are paid protesters and they're showing up to make you look bad.
You know, look, the reasons are just so many why the left is losing touch with the American people and they're polling at all-time lows.
You know, there are a couple of people that are recognizing it.
One is Bill Maher.
Here's him pointing out how the Democrats have funneled all this money to environmentalism after Biden lost, and he's skeptical of saving the Department of Education.
Oh, maybe there is a little intellectual curiosity on the left.
Listen.
The question, though, really is, is the Department of Education doing that?
Now, they probably are doing some good work.
I'm sure they are.
What is their budget?
Like $200 billion or something?
But it also looks like some of these places are just funneling money to people who are not solving the problem.
I mean, I saw that story about the 20 billion that went out the door after Biden lost the EPA.
It wasn't the EPA or it wasn't the EPA, but there was $20 billion that they shoveled to groups because Trump was coming in and they were going to reverse all this stuff.
And they're supposedly environmental groups, and they were not really environmental groups.
And they had no experience in doing it.
Like I said before, I care about the plastics.
Do they think, do I think this money was going to get rid of the plastics in my brain?
I do not.
So I am skeptical of the Department of Education.
I think every Democrat who runs really needs to take on this issue because that's your portfolio, education.
You've owned it, and the results aren't good.
And he's right.
I mean, use my example about the Department of Education.
10 families, give them $30,000 per student.
Good luck.
They're going to have one teacher for every five kids.
Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, sparring with Margaret Brennan over revoking, you know, Mahmoud Khalil's visa.
Okay, be the party of Mangioni and Khalil.
That's what the Democrats are now becoming.
And if you tell us when you apply for a visa, I'm coming to the U.S. to participate in pro-Hamas events.
That runs counter to the foreign policy interest of the United States of America.
It's that simple.
So you lied.
You came.
If you had told us that you were going to do that, we never would have given you the visa.
Now you're here.
Now you do it.
So you lied to us.
You're out.
It's that simple.
But is there any evidence of a link to terrorism or is it just his point of view?
Yeah, they take over.
I mean, do not, I mean, you should watch the news.
These guys take over entire buildings.
We cover them.
They vandalize college.
They shut down.
I'm asking about this.
Justification for the revocation of his visa.
Was there any evidence that the material spokesperson was the negotiator on negotiating on behalf of people that take over a campus that vandalize buildings?
Negotiating over what?
That's a crime in and of itself that they're involved in being the negotiator, the spokesperson, this, that, the other.
We don't want it.
We don't need these people in our country.
We never should have allowed them in in the first place.
And that is their radicalism.
And this leads us to Byron Donald's discussing standing strong for our Constitution and for liberty and pushing back against the radical left.
He was on the Fox News channel on Sunday.
Yeah, I mean, look, people here, not just in Southwest Florida, but in the entire state of Florida, have come to know me as a conservative who's focused on leading on all the issues that really matter for the future of our country.
And so it doesn't matter what the issue since been, I'm there standing strong to defend the Constitution, defend the principles of liberty, and really push back on the radical left and these narratives that have been really hurting the conservative movement and the Republican Party in politics in the entire country.
And so, you know, I'm really honored that people have supported me throughout the years and that support has grown here in the Sunshine State.
And I'm really just honored to have their support, but most importantly, the endorsement of President Trump to be the next governor of Florida.
Joe Biden added $2 trillion worth of regulations in just four years.
Donald Trump wants to slash those regulations.
And if you talk to business owners like I do, like the president does, and so many of my colleagues, if you're going to talk about what matters more, tariffs or cutting the regulatory bureaucracy in Washington, they will tell you, cut the regulations because they're killing us.
They have no plan.
They have no strategy of how to make the lives of the American people.
What I'm focused on is securing our border.
The Democrats failed.
What I really care about is sending people back to their home countries.
They failed.
Actually getting out of wars on the world stage, they failed.
Donald Trump is doing that.
He is focused on the American people.
If they want to get up and walk out, that's their business.
It'll demonstrate how childish they are and how serious they have not been about the business of America.
God will tell any Democrat that wants to come out there and national turf my town hall, bring it, because we're going to talk the truth.
We're going to talk about what's really going on.
I'm not afraid of you.
It's about time we get down to business here in D.C. All right, Congressman Byron Donalds will join us next.
We'll get to your calls coming up as well, 800-941-Sean as we continue.
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