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Limiting Spending - March 13th, Hour 3
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, well, it looks like the Schumer Radical Democratic shutdown, I'm calling it the Schumer shutdown, is at least they're saying for now, could change at any given moment, especially when it comes time close to the weekend and Democrats want to go home tomorrow.
But anyway, Schumer announcing yesterday that most Democrats in the upper chamber will not be supporting the CR bill to fund the government through the end of September.
Now, we do need to backtrack here.
This is the Biden-Harris budget.
We also need to backtrack.
We have not really returned to regular order in terms of the budgetary process in government for many, many years.
And that is that they don't pass The appropriations bills in time for any given fiscal year, which begins October 1 and ends September the 30th.
Chuck Schumer, you know, this is their government.
This is their budget.
They didn't fund it.
And now House Republicans have passed a CR through the end of the fiscal year, and they've left town.
They're done.
They're finished.
They're not coming back either.
And anyway, Chuck Schumer has decided that, you know, I guess following up on their great appearance at the joint session, you know, where they're holding up their bingo paddles and wouldn't stand for moms that lost their children or stand for a young man that was able to be cancer or stand for the wife of a slain officer or the first lady or the president of the United States and all the antics that we saw on display.
So I guess they haven't learned a thing and Chucky has to, you know, basically bow down and capitulate to the radicals that run his party.
Well, now Chuck is out there saying that and announcing that most Democrats won't support this and that means the government will shut down at 1159 on Friday.
I've never been a big, I've never been moved by the threat of a government shutdown.
But Democrats, they're on the record repeatedly.
The government shutdowns are bad.
They're really, really bad.
Anyway, first here's Schumer announcing Republicans do not have the votes to invoke cloture on the House continuing resolution, meaning that he will shut down the government at Midnight Friday.
Funding the government should be a bipartisan effort, but Republicans chose a partisan path, drafting their continuing resolution without any input, any input from congressional Democrats.
Because of that, Republicans do not have the votes in the Senate to invoke cloture on the House CR.
Our caucus is unified on a clean April 11th CR that will keep the government open and give Congress time to negotiate bipartisan legislation that can pass.
We should vote on that.
I hope, I hope our Republican colleagues will join us to avoid a shutdown on Friday.
Don't make no mistake about it.
This will be the Schumer shutdown.
And what's interesting is we have passed comments of Chucky Schumer talking about how bad government shutdowns are.
We have a montage of it.
Listen.
I would say to the leader very simply, you may disagree with us.
Open the government.
Open the government.
You can do it, Leader McConnell.
And all your blaming and flailing isn't going to open the government.
It's sort of like this.
Someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, let's negotiate over the price of your house.
You know, we could do the same thing on immigration.
We believe strongly in immigration reform.
We could say we're shutting down the government.
We're not going to raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform.
It would be governmental chaos.
I don't know if they can pass the three-week bill.
We would much prefer they do a full funding bill, but we're not going to shut the government down.
But let me just say two things.
Does that mean you support the three-week extension?
Yes.
Yeah, we're not going to shut the government down.
But to keep doing this time and time and time again, it hurts our Homeland Security, even doing these short-term extensions.
The bad news is that the motion to proceed so that we could pay our bills failed because it didn't get the 60 votes.
It didn't get the bipartisan support that we had hoped.
Why must we hold millions of Americans who depend on the services of these agencies that are closed, hundreds of thousands of workers who get paid by these agencies?
Why must we hold them hostage?
Why must a temper tantrum determine how we vote and what happens in this government?
Everyone can shut down the government on anything.
Any leader, any president.
It's not the way to do things.
Yeah, not the way to do things.
Well, the Schumer shutdown will be at midnight tomorrow if he follows through on his threat.
The only Democratic senator that is warning Senate Democrats that it could slip the country into a recession and not be good for the country is John Fetterman.
Listen.
If you shut it down, you will impact and hurt millions and millions and millions of Americans, and you run the risk of slipping us into a recession or even all kinds of other things.
All right, joining us now is Kentucky Senator Ram Paul, who is with us.
And by the way, congratulations, Senator.
I saw you were recently named a top defender of liberty for 2024 by the Republican Liberty Caucus, the index based on votes during the 2024 legislative session.
Well deserved, and congratulations.
And you had a perfect score of 100, you and Mike Lee.
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You got 100.
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Congratulations.
Well, thanks, Sean, and thanks for having me on.
All right.
You have historically always been against continuing resolutions.
That is your history.
That is your belief system, correct?
Well, it's not so much whether it's a continuing resolution, it's the level of spending.
So the level of spending here are the Biden levels.
These are the levels that were put in place in December under Democrat rule, and they will lead to a $2 trillion deficit.
When we come to September 30th, if this continuing resolution pass, it'll be a $2 trillion deficit.
So it's the deficit that I oppose.
I oppose adding $2 trillion to the deficit.
So I vote primarily against it, not just because it's a CR, but because it produces a $2 trillion deficit.
Okay.
So I understand that part.
What do you feel, though, about the prospects of reconciliation that hopefully will deal with some of the issues you are most concerned about?
Well, I think you can do that.
But I think that there's a lot of talk and admiration for Elon Musk and Doge.
I'm one of those who's been pointing out this is great.
We have the Trump administration turning the place upside down, shaking out all the waste.
But, you know, we have a chance right now.
I will have an amendment on the spending bill.
And my amendment says to take the foreign aid cuts that Rubio is enacting at the State Department.
It's great that he's enacting them, but to put them into the budget, into the spending numbers, we actually have to vote on it.
And so that gives him permission to keep doing it, but it takes the money that he's saving and puts it back into the Treasury to go against the deficit.
So I will have an amendment just on the foreign aid cuts.
Rubio's cut 83% of the foreign aid grants.
I applaud him.
I think he's doing a great job.
I think Trump's doing a great job.
Why wouldn't we put that in our spending bill?
Why would we put forward a spending bill that actually ignores the Doge cuts and doesn't put any of them in the spending bill?
I think that that was a good idea.
I mean, my understanding is the last thing I read about you was that you had pointed out some $500 billion that has not officially been identified by Doge in areas that could be cut, waste, fraud, and abuse.
What did you discover?
Well, there are two ways to do it, too.
You can do it through what's called rescission, which is where the president puts these cut-togethers and sends them back, and that's a simple majority vote.
Or another way is budget reconciliation where we put them together, and that's also a simple majority vote.
That way, you don't need any Democrats.
That may come in the future.
But here's what my worry is.
Well, it may come.
I mean, I think it's a big part of the president's agenda and plan, isn't it?
Yeah, the president's for it.
I'm not condemning the president on this.
Elon Musk is for it.
The president's for it.
The president's men are for it.
I'm for it.
Here's the problem.
We already have 20 Republicans in the House saying they're not going to do any cuts or any even having the states pay more for Medicaid.
If you don't do that, there's not going to be enough cuts to even be found to do what they're promising.
So there's still a lot of cuts that need to be made into law.
So if you watch closely, my amendment hopefully will be voted on in the next 24 hours, and you'll see who is willing to cut some foreign aid.
Well, foreign aid is low-hanging fruit.
This is the absurdities of trans comic books in Peru, $3 million for girl-centric climate change, $4.8 million for social media influencers in Ukraine, all kinds of crazy stuff.
This is a low-hanging fruit.
But here's my prediction.
But my understanding is that a lot of that money is being withheld and not going to be spent, and that would be part of reconciliation.
If I'm wrong on that, correct me.
We don't know yet what will happen.
The Trump's administration's point of view is that the impoundment act is unconstitutional.
So basically, what they're doing is not spending it.
We don't know yet whether they're going to send it back.
Every day I ask them to send it back through a rescission package, but every day what I'm hearing and through various channels is they don't want to do that because they think they can just impound money.
The problem is the courts so far have disagreed with the administration.
And I think we're going to eventually get to a final decision at some point from the Supreme Court.
If the Supreme Court says you have to spend it, then the money just gets spent unless they send it back and Congress votes on it.
I think that's what's going to finally happen.
But the administration is going to have to make a decision to send it back.
On reconciliation, you can only cut mandatory spending.
So we could cut Medicaid or send Medicaid spending back to the states, but you can't do foreign aid.
So all the great cuts that Rubio is doing at foreign aid, if we want to make those real, we want to make them permanent and part of the law, people should vote for my amendment.
But my point is, if you watch the vote tomorrow or tonight, half the Republicans are going to bail because they love foreign aid.
And to me, this is the low-hanging fruit.
But if half the Republicans won't vote to cut foreign aid, how are we ever going to get them to do anything on entitlements?
I mean, we're going to separate the men from the boys on this vote, and we'll see what happens.
But I fear that we'll lose half the caucus on this.
And like I say, if you can't cut girl-centric climate change from Brazil, what can you cut?
I tend to agree with your approach, but I also, on the other hand, suspect that this is all part of a broader plan and to get this done through the reconciliation process.
And I don't want to split hairs with anybody here, but you do have every right to be as suspicious as you are.
And I share your suspicion.
And I'm a trust-but-verify guy because in the past, you'd always get the tax increase, but you'd never get the spending cuts.
You'd always get the, quote, amnesty provision, but you'd never get the border security.
So the fact that you want, you know, you don't want to put the cart before the horse is just common sense to me.
And I would much prefer your way.
I do have a fairly high degree of confidence that the president is really committed to all these cuts that you're committed to and I'm committed to.
I have a high degree of certainty that that's got to be part of any reconciliation bill.
He absolutely is.
But here's the rub, and this is where the fight happens.
And you've been in the trenches on this for years now.
There's a tug of war.
There's 20 members over there in the House saying they're not cutting anything.
Then there's 20 or 30 saying we've got to cut even more.
So I'm in the cut even more.
Let's balance a bunch of let's get the spending levels back to before the pandemic when spending was still not small by any means, but it was manageable and the deficit wasn't exploding.
So you have this tug of war.
But if we fold our cards and say, well, we're not going to vote on any of the Doge cuts, the spending bill before us continues foreign aid at the same level.
So this is a battle that happens now.
Every battle happens now.
They can promise us they'll come back at a later date.
But to fund foreign aid at the same level, after pointing out, you know, trans operas and trans comic books and queer in the Caribbean and all this stuff they're paying, crazy stuff they're spending money on, sex change operations in Guatemala.
If you fund foreign aid at the same time, haven't you committed a great hypocrisy to have pointed out all this waste and then not incorporated into your spending?
Yeah, well, I hope you get it done.
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Senator Ram Paul is with us.
I had an opportunity to run into you at an event for the Club for Growth that was here in Florida, and it was great to see you.
Mike Lee was there.
Chip Roy was there.
There were a bunch of people that were there.
DeRoy Murdoch was there.
I should have mentioned him in my speech.
I forgot.
Guy Benson was there.
And it was nice to see you and have a chance to catch up with you.
Yep.
It was a who's who of the limited government constitutional people.
We enjoyed having you there.
Well, I tried to, I tried to, it's not exactly the most the crowd that was going to laugh at all of my jokes.
So I just came with a very specific PowerPoint.
I much prefer when I have crowds that drink heavily and laugh at every dumb thing that I say.
You had some funny one-liners in there, but no, I think everybody appreciates just the fight through the years.
I mean, talking to people, talking about the issues like this.
The CR is confusing because I put out something on the internet and people tweet back saying, I thought we already did this.
I thought it already was cut.
You know, all the stuff we're pointing out that Elon Musk puts out, they think it's already been done.
It's the beginning.
It's the first step.
And it has to be codified by Congress.
We have to vote on it.
And I'm going to force them to vote on it because I want them to take a position.
Are you for or against the Doge?
That's what my amendment will say.
Well, if I was in the Senate, I would vote with you, if that means anything to you.
We really appreciate you, Senator Ram Paul.
Thank you.
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We mentioned what happened at Trump Tower earlier today, these radical pro-Hamas lunatics and what they're doing.
And they went into Trump Tower and had to be removed.
And then they were bothering people in the streets of New York and pretty disgusting.
And we got tape of some of these protesters literally harassing this woman in a car.
You effing dumb bee.
I love Hamas.
Open your window.
This was in New York City.
Open your window, you effing dumbbee.
It's so nice.
I'm sorry, what did you say, Linda?
And they were spitting on her car.
That's very, very nice.
Blocking the car, couldn't drive, and spitting on her car, men, women, disgusting.
Yeah, this is where, you know, that burner moment might come in your life, too.
I mean, that could be a threatening situation by any objective measure.
And people have to have a right.
What if they broke the lady's window?
What if her door wasn't locked?
They were trying.
I mean, it's insane.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
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Let's say hi to Bonnie in Texas.
God bless Texas.
Bonnie, how are you?
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
Boy, have I been a longtime listener for you?
Well, God bless you and thank you.
I appreciate it way more than you know.
I love to do this, and I can't do it without you.
Well, the one thing I have to say is, first of all, unfortunately, I was at work.
I had no idea what happened in New York today.
But as far as the continuing resolution, I'm 100% behind Rand Paul.
And I understand there are people who are going to want to save more, and I agree with that 1,000%.
And then there are people who are never going to want to save a dime.
Oh, we have to cut spending, just not my program.
And you hear it endlessly over and over.
But there has to be a starting point, Mr. Hannity.
Somewhere, some way you've got to start someplace.
And that's my point.
I agree with the fact that we have to cut and save the country, but you have to start someplace.
And where do you start?
I mean, you're making a great point.
You really are.
I have nothing that I can argue with.
I am way more confident in President Trump and his ability to get this done than I am in other people.
Does that make sense to you?
Yes, sir, it does.
But then you get these jellyfish Republicans who melt at the first sign of an issue, and they just go like, and then we end up with these monumental Democratic bills and keep spending more money.
Yeah.
Well, I don't disagree.
There is a different sheriff in town, and Donald Trump seems to have a quality that he really never gets a lot of credit for.
I would prefer what Ram Paul's approach is to get rid of the low-hanging fruit.
There doesn't seem to be a consensus for that strategy, but I do believe as part of the reconciliation process that they will, in fact, codify into law the cuts that we've all been talking about.
Oh, I'm sure of it.
It's just that, you know, what my problem is, is that you always hear the government spends too much, government wastes this and that.
You finally have somebody who's willing to do it, and then, oh, not my program.
And then look what happens.
It's like walking into quicksand.
No, you're right.
I hear where you're coming from.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
Anyway, let me get back to our busy phones.
Let me say hi to who's next?
Charlene is in Washington State.
Charlene's been watching the protests at Trump Tower today.
What's going on?
Thank you, Sean, for taking my call.
I really appreciate it.
And it's horrific watching the anti-Israel protest.
And gratefully, they arrested him at New York City Trump Tower today.
But what's going to happen?
New York City is going to release them.
I want Tom Holman to get notified of this.
He needs to en masse get ICE detainers now so that they can grab these people as they are released in New York City, find out how many have green cards, how many are here on visas, because they go from event to event to event in these blue cities, wreaking havoc.
Well, that's why Holman went to Albany yesterday, the capital of New York, and that's why he laid down the gauntlet and said, even though you're a sanctuary state and you give legal driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, whether you like it or not, we're coming in here.
We're going to deport them.
The supremacy clause is on their side, and they're enforcing the law.
And if New York gets in the way, they're going to continue to get sued by Pam Bondi, and they're going to pay the ultimate price.
That's it.
And I think officials that are aiding and abetting in law breaking, I think at some point they too will be held accountable.
I mean, if I went down to the border and I picked up people and I assisted them in moving around our country illegally, what do you think would happen to me if it was Joe Biden as president and Merrick Garland as the Attorney General?
You think I'd get away with that?
I don't think so.
You'd be in court.
You'd be in jail.
I'd be in court.
I'd be in jail.
You'd have to bring me a cake with a file in it.
That wouldn't be good.
Just for President Trump and Tom Holman, but they need to when these mass protests happen.
They had printed t-shirts.
They had professionally printed signs.
Who paid for this?
I appreciate the call.
Charlene, you raise great points.
You really do.
I mean, these are, it's amazing how radicalized the left has become in this country.
And that's why Schumer is, you know, being pressured to shut down the government, even though he said it all throughout his career.
I'll never, a government shutdown is dangerous.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Henry in New Joise.
What's up, Henry?
How are you, sir?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Last time I talked to you, we talked about the golden EIB microphone, but that's another story.
The golden EIB microphone, talent on loan from God.
Boy, do we miss Rush?
I mean, wouldn't you just love to, I'd love to know what Rush would think about all this.
I really would.
Yeah, I mean, he always had insights that nobody else would ever think of.
And when I listen to him, I say, I wish I thought of that.
I always would find myself saying, I wish I thought of that.
Yeah, I think my dad's up there talking to him.
Amen.
Your dad and mine.
What's going on?
Yeah, for sure.
Anyway, I was going to talk about The View, and I think what you...
Oh, jeez, we're back to The View again?
What do you want to talk about?
I think you ought to accept it.
And like, just before you go on, send Linda.
They wouldn't know what to do.
The problem is, Linda won't.
It's a broadcast network.
Linda will not be able to get through a session with the ladies of that hard-hitting news show, The View, without losing, absolutely losing her call and dropping a number of words that are not FCC approved.
I would bet everything I had, it would be an impossible task for her.
Oh, ye of little faith.
You forget.
Oh, me of a lot of faith.
You have zero faith.
You just said you'd bet the house on me not being able to keep my stuff together.
And let me tell you something.
And thank you, Henry.
I assure you that I would go on and I would be quiet and I would just let Whoopee and Joy be unhinged.
They would be so busy looking like lunatics, I would have very little to do other than to chuckle.
I would be like Tom Holman in the New York Capitol walking and eating an apple.
Just grinning.
It wasn't great.
He was eating an apple.
All right, Henry, stay right there.
Gerard in Texas disagrees with you.
Gerard, what do you have to say to Henry?
Yes.
Good afternoon.
So happy to be on your show.
Thank you.
I implore you.
I don't think you should go on to the view.
I think it's going to be a setup.
They are hungry for ratings.
You've already been on the show.
You have nothing to prove.
They are going to gang up.
I was on the show a number of times, not just once.
Yeah.
And so there's really nothing else to prove.
I think they're really hurting for ratings.
You're way better.
I would hate for them to get an excerpt from something that you say and then put it on other shows just to make you look bad.
I think you really shouldn't waste your time.
You have a good reputation, and it's not like they're going to listen to any facts.
They are impervious to facts.
I don't see any upside for me.
I will say that.
Henry, how do you respond to that in New Jersey?
How do you respond to Gerard?
I just think it'd be great television to watch you and Linda take them apart.
I mean, I think it'd just be hilarious.
Maybe what I should do is follow Ethan's idea.
Maybe I should a counter offer that they come down to Florida and they do the view from Florida on my show.
There you go.
And I'll put them on my show for the hour.
Why would I give them the ratings?
You're on your home turf.
Well, it's not even a matter of home turf.
I mean, why am I going to help them out?
They need my help.
You know, we have twice their ratings.
Why would I want to help them out?
Yeah, I also didn't agree with the people that are in the audience.
Show them some facts that they can't dispute.
Yeah, and I definitely would have more control over it in the sense that I could put up on the screen, sorry, you're wrong.
Sorry, they're wrong.
Sorry, you're wrong.
Let me give you the facts.
You know, facts don't lie.
And although I'm sure they try to spin it.
Anyway, I appreciate it.
Gerard, thank you.
Henry, thank you.
Let's go to Tina in Florida, my free state of Florida.
What's up, Tina?
How are you?
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
I'm well.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
I'm glad you called.
Well, thank you for taking me.
I was really upset by a comment I heard yesterday, and I felt the need to call in.
was basically suggesting that Elon Musk go through some kind of political training to have his messages delivered with more socially acceptable manner methods.
And I think that's exactly why I like his, like him the way he is.
He's raw and real.
Now he does have some form of autism.
But aside from that, he's it so he I don't know if he has autism.
I know he on Saturday Night Live he once said he had Asperger's, but usually people that are so extraordinarily brilliant as him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean it would not be uncommon and thank God we have geniuses like him.
Yes.
I love that he's expressing himself so uniquely.
He's very vulnerable too.
He's just himself and the left loved him before.
He hasn't changed to be attacking his business, holding up signs to kill him, cheering when his rockets fail.
It's disgusting.
They're losing very badly, and they're dividing our...
Well, now they're also blowing up his charging stations and terrorizing his dealerships.
Yeah, it is disgusting.
It really is.
Well, I hope you'll we're going to put up on the website on Monday.
We've got all the final details worked out.
And I'm going to, out of my own pocket, I'm going to buy a Tesla and we're going to give it away to one lucky winner.
And after I've, now that I've investigated this car, I am dazzled by it.
It's got over a thousand.
The one I got is over a thousand horsepower.
The one I have has almost 400 mile range in it.
The one that I have, it's the most American-made car of all the car manufacturers in the country.
That means American jobs.
I don't want to see people that work at dealerships hurt.
I don't want to see people that work in manufacturing facilities hurt and losing their jobs.
And they're not going to hurt Elon.
They're going to hurt hardworking Americans.
And that's why, you know, I don't believe in boycotts.
And I kind of like the idea of a boycott.
And I just feel like, what has he done to deserve all this rage and hatred except support Donald Trump and identify waste, fraud, and abuse and force the country's attention into focusing on an important issue, and that's stop stealing from our children and grandchildren.
That's what he's doing.
And for this, you know, this is what they do to people.
They're disgusting.
They repulse me.
Anyway, we'll have that contest.
We're going to launch it on Monday right here on the show.
Tell you all about it.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
A busy Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel.
We are on Schumer Shutdown Official Watch.
We hopefully are preparing for the launch.
Elon Musk to get and rescue the astronauts abandoned in space by Joe and Kamala.
We'll watch that very, very closely.
And we'll be following all the antics of the radical left and the hypocrisy that you've never seen on display.
It is quite humorous.
We've got it all.
All the tape you won't get from the mainstream state-run media mobs.
Nine Eastern tonight, Mark Wade Mullen, Alina Haba, John Solomon, Vivek Ramaswamy, Michael Waltz.
He was involved in those negotiations in Saudi Arabia.
He'll have an update on the negotiations with Russia today.
Aris Faulkner, Teya DVR tonight at 9.
We'll see you then back here tomorrow.
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