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	If you want to be a part of the program or in the DC swamp, JD Vance will bring us behind the scenes tonight in terms of what happened in the Oval Office on Friday.
	Um now Zelensky had an opportunity.
	He appeared with Brett Bear on Friday night, and Brett Bear gave him not one, not two, but three opportunities to back off and and apologize for what had happened.
	He just he just was steadfast and staying right where he was and being very stubborn and determined, which kind of breaks protocol.
	And now we know that he this was supposed to be ceremonial.
	He was supposed to go in and phase one, which was the rare earth mineral deal, which would guarantee an American presence in for a long period of time inside of Ukraine, which has many security benefits because we have b business interests there now.
	And it was phase two would have been a ceasefire.
	Phase three would have been a negotiated settlement.
	Not everything that Ukraine wants, not everything that Putin wants, but hopefully an agreement that would have created peace and then death and destruction.
	And that all got blown up.
	Anyway, here's Zelensky refusing to apologize after that meeting.
	So I'm not hearing from you, Mr. President, a thought that you owe the president an apology.
	No, I respect President and I respect American people.
	And if uh I don't know if I I think that we have to be very open and very honest, and I'm not sure that we need something bet.
	I think maybe sometimes some some some things we have to discuss uh out of out of media with all respect to democracy and to free media, but there are things that where we have to understand the position of Ukraine and Ukrainians.
	And uh I think that is the most important thing.
	Yes, we have partners.
	You know, we're very close partners.
	We have to be fair.
	We have to be we have to be very free.
	I am predicting that Zelensky will be back.
	I don't know when, maybe sooner than later.
	I am predicting he will be back because he has no choice but to be back.
	I am predicting Europe will not be able to fill the void that that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the massive hundreds of billions of dollars in a and by the way, without accountability, uh I don't know where all that money went.
	Uh some of it for humanitarian quote purposes, you know, did it end up in the right hands, you never know.
	And one day we might know.
	Maybe we'll get a doge investigation there.
	But all these media democrats that are slamming Donald Trump, he's pro-Putin, he's a Putin puppet, bop, bop, bop, you know, etc.
	etc.
	Let's let's put this in the archives because you're gonna hear this again is my prediction.
	You're going to hear me play this after a piece, a negotiated settlement is eventually achieved.
	And then I'm gonna remind them of how stupid they are.
	And how after all these years of Donald Trump being on the world stage, they don't have the slightest clue about how this man operates.
	He talks about tariffs, he's negotiating.
	He talks about you know he he doesn't want to fall into the Trap, oh, well, for three for four years we've been calling Putin every name in the book.
	He didn't care.
	He just kept going and bombing and killing.
	So Trump gets him to publicly say that he wants a settlement, a negotiated settlement.
	That is called progress.
	But if you but then they want him to call him names or else he's a puppet.
	No, Donald Trump is negotiating.
	Joining us now is Rebecca Confler is with us, strategic and uh military intelligence analyst, formerly with the U.S. uh defense intelligence agency, author of the best selling book, Putin's Playbook.
	And uh great to have you back, Rebecca.
	How are you?
	Excellent.
	How are you, Sean?
	I'm good.
	It's amazing to me, Donald Trump on the world stage this long period of time, and I've known him longer than everybody else, but you don't need to be a genius to figure out Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump is in a perpetual state of negotiation.
	Donald Trump really does want to end the war, stop the killing, and end the destruction.
	And yeah, I I I just find the ignorance out there.
	It seemed it's seemingly purposeful to me.
	It's that if he cured cancer tomorrow, they would still be calling him he cured cancer, but he worked with the pharmaceutical industry to do it.
	I mean, they find something to hate about it.
	That's their standard playbook that is very old and it doesn't work.
	If something does not align with their narrative, they called out uh person, Putin's uh apologists, put in this, Putin that.
	But you know what?
	President Trump, as you said, you know him for a long time.
	He's not afraid of words, he's not afraid of anything.
	He basically prioritizing America's security, and he is prioritizing peace.
	And as a realist, President Trump understands that it doesn't matter how many billions of dollars we can flow to Ukraine.
	This war is unwinnable for Ukraine.
	I've been saying it for three years.
	It's mathematically impossible.
	And I think I explained it on the show before why that is.
	And so President Trump wants to stop the bleeding of Ukrainians, and they're literally uh running out of people, running out of men to throw into Putin's meat grinder, and he wants to stop the bleeding of US weapons arsenal because the Biden administration has depleted our own military hardware stockpiles to very dangerous level by sending it to Ukraine,
	and we have other threats on the horizon, such as China, which is a much graver threat, long-term threats to the United States, and President Trump wants to ensure our combat readiness to take on that threat if we have to.
	Zelensky said that he thinks this war is going to continue for years, and he made this statement uh just in the last, I believe, 48 hours.
	America cannot afford what Joe Biden set America up to do here, and that is to be a proxy fighter for Ukraine.
	America can't afford it.
	Europe, they may step up somewhat.
	I mean, they seem to be rallying around Zelensky as much as they can.
	They're offering a little bit more aid.
	They're never gonna match what America was doing.
	They're not capable of it.
	And if this war does go on for years, and Zelensky's right about that, there's not gonna be a country worth saving at that point.
	Their infrastructure is being destroyed systemat systemically, and people are f are fleeing in droves, they're refugees all over the rest of Europe.
	They can't find enough people to fight this war anymore.
	There won't be a country left by the end of this.
	And while everybody is, you know, uh thumping their chest and acting like Fred Flintstone and Bam Bam and acting really tough, there there really is no option for Zelensky at this point.
	And that's why you know Trump was getting annoyed and saying you don't have cards.
	I'm not playing cards.
	You don't have any leverage except the leverage that the US and Europe is giving you through financial aid that cannot continue in perpetuity.
	Exactly.
	And uh no, this war is not gonna go forever.
	The only reason why this war was going uh for three years is because Putin has calibrated his strategy.
	He did not want to destroy Kiev.
	He did not want to uh remove Zelensky because he was not certain about NATO's response if he escalated quickly all the way up.
	He was doing it in a gradual manner by running the war of attrition in order to force Zelensky to capitulate.
	Well, the Democrats are decided have decided that they want to wipe out US weapons arsenal uh by fighting this war for someone else's frig freedom.
	But what happened was uh the Russians transitioned their military and economy on wartime footing.
	Seventy years prior to the invasion, Putin passed a special legal regime called the special period that mandated that the military industrial complex work in three shifts 24-7 and NATO Secretary General himself admitted that Russia has produced in one month and keeps producing in one month more military hardware than the entire NATO alliance in one year.
	And we are not capable right now, U.S. military industrial complex to scale up to continue prosecuting this war because we're officially not on a wartime footing.
	The new Secretary of Defense, uh Pete Sex admitted that China also produces uh by the time that we produce one if air aircraft, fighter aircraft to produce ten because of the Pentagon's uh ridiculous policies, right?
	So hopefully he will fix that.
	And so President Trump is just being realistic.
	He wants to cut our losses so he can uh focus his attention on rebuilding America, making us secure, making the world secure, and stop this fighting and this bloody war.
	And Zelensky seems to be too dense to understand that and too disrespectful to appreciate what the American people have done for him.
	They now have turned down what what appears to be, according to the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, three opportunities to sign the rare earth mineral deal after three times indicating that they would sign the deal.
	Um to me it's a three-phase process.
	That would guarantee not only the money available to Ukraine so they can rebuild what's left of their country, that would also guarantee an American presence and and financial interest in the area, which would be a disincentive for Putin to do this again.
	Uh with McCrone, the president indicated that he would be willing to allow European troops as a presence there, not NATO troops, European troops.
	I'm sure that that would be part of the final phase, which would be oh pay phase one would be the mineral deal.
	Phase two would be the ceasefire, phase three would be a negotiated settlement and hopefully an end of the war.
	Uh a double-digit majority of Ukrainians support negotiating a quick end to the war.
	And and they understand what is happening to their country.
	A plurality of Americans support a quick end of the war, even if it means Russia gets to keep some of the territory they currently out occupy.
	Uh there is a there is an answer to this problem.
	And it's not throwing money at it, and America becoming a proxy fighter for Ukraine, which is what it devolved into under Biden.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Biden was turning Ukraine into another Afghanistan, where we spent 2.2 trillion dollars, sacrificed six thousand lives of American men and women.
	And after 20 years, we withdrew in the same uh lunatics, basically with the Taliban, that is, are running the country.
	And President Trump can't allow this to happen with Ukraine.
	He cannot also put US uh boots on the ground and throw our men and women into Putin's nuclear furnace.
	This is why Put uh President Trump called out Zelensky um that he was gambling with World War Three.
	All right, quick break.
	We'll come back.
	We'll talk with Rebecca Koffler about what Ukraine is gonna do next, what Europe will do next.
	I predict that Zelensky will be back.
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	All right, we continue with Rebecca Koffler and discussing what the likely resolution will be when it comes to Zelensky and Putin and this war in Ukraine.
	What do you make of Europe's reaction to this?
	What did you make of the Prime Minister of Great Britain and Macron and all these European nations gathering this weekend?
	Of course they're buttering up Zelensky because they did not want to pay for their own security, even though a decade ago they knew about Putin's plans.
	How do I know this?
	Because I personally briefed NATO in Brussels in 2013, just months prior to the invasion of Crimea.
	And I explained at the highly classified level what Putin's intentions were and Russia's warfighting strategy.
	And they decided that they're just gonna use Ukrainians as human shields.
	Let them fight Putin instead of beefing up their security posture instead of contributing uh two or five percent, as President Trump is insisting, of their GDP towards the collective security kitty.
	Germany, the richest country in Europe, didn't even contribute two percent, and they still don't, right?
	And that's why they are all over Zelensky to have this man keep fighting and to have Ukrainians uh continue being killed.
	But guess what?
	There aren't any more Ukrainians to throw into Putin's meat grinder.
	This is why Zelensky's uh secure disservice as the use of the stakezap, which is effectively the Soviet version of the KGB, right?
	Because the Russians and Ukrainians, they they come from the same stock.
	Zelensky is a miniature poo, and only not and I'm so glad that President Trump is calling him out uh on this, and and and for the caught out as the Zelensky is, who has been fleecing the American people.
	And so, no, there is no more people to throw in the Europeans again, they're just trying to be very clever to have Ukraine be destroyed, and like you said, there's gonna be nothing left of this country of Ukraine because 50% of infrastructure is already destroyed.
	And President just wants to stop this because he is the actually a humane person.
	He he feels terrible for Ukrainians, and those people who could advocate the continuation of the war, they're monsters.
	And let those people go and fight.
	If they want to fight, let them go fight.
	Well, it's sad, and it's all preventable.
	And we have an opportunity.
	We still do, and Zelensky does.
	I predict he'll be back.
	Uh Rebecca Kopfler, always great to have you.
	Thank you.
	All right, let's get to our busy, busy telephones.
	Dennis is in Long Island, New York.
	What's up, Dennis?
	How are you?
	Uh looks like New York City's uh on the verge of bringing back Governor Cuomo.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Oh, please.
	I mean, we've it's just another nightmare.
	Uh I actually work for the city, and it's just uh they just can't help themselves here.
	But I am from Long Island.
	I know you are too, I believe.
	Yes, originally, yes, sir.
	Yes, yeah.
	I am no longer a New Yorker.
	Uh you know what?
	I have five years and I'm retiring and then I'm heading to Florida with the rest of my family.
	I can't tell you.
	All my friends tell me the same thing.
	Or they come visit me and they're like, oh, I just left, you know, 20 degree weather.
	It's paradise down here.
	What do you do?
	Why am I up there?
	I don't want to be there anymore.
	And a lot of people, you know, it took me a while to get out because of my kids and stuff.
	I have family obligations, and uh, but as soon as I could, out I went.
	Best decision I made.
	Well, my uh I just sent my daughter, she's a freshman down at school in Fort Lauderdale, so uh I look forward to parents' weekend.
	Um so anyway, back to the point.
	I know I think sounds to me like you're getting ready for spring break, but go ahead.
	Yeah, uh listen, I wish I could go to spring break when I was in school, I had to play across, so I wasn't allowed to go on spring breaks.
	Um after my exposes that I did on my TV show about spring break, I sat my kids down before college.
	I said, Don't you ever, ever dare ask me to go on spring break?
	Because the answer is no.
	Hell no, don't ask.
	Not happening ever over my dead body.
	But I was being very nice about it.
	No, I uh I had the same one, but uh my you know, my secret weapon is my brother's a police officer down for Lawdadell, and she's like ten minutes from uh dorm to door, so um there will be no spring break for her.
	Um anyway.
	I know listen, I've had parents say, Well, you you you're being a helicopter parent.
	I'm like, yeah, I don't care.
	I really don't care.
	This this day and age, yes, that that'll be fine.
	Um you know, uh yeah, I'm in comforting with her down there um i in school and it's fun to visit.
	I knock off seeing my family seeing her and but then I gotta fly back to this.
	Anyway, we I took you I digressed too much.
	What's on your mind today?
	Uh no, uh my mind is like first off, proud America, and I love the fact what I saw on uh on Friday in the Oval Office.
	It's about time he stuck uh Trump uh president stuck up for us and love JD Vance.
	Now all these politicians, Democrat or Republican, those ones that are in the morning meeting with Zelensky, why don't they put up their money, personal money, and if it's boots to the ground, well, you know, I have a son and nephews in the army.
	I don't want them going to fight this war that most of us, majority of us don't believe in.
	Let them send their family first.
	Or better yet, Sean, let's follow the money of and let's find those missing billions of dollars and let's freeze it, take it back, and say, okay, we already spent this, but we'll give it to them, you know, and you know, make sure that they're and clean up the kickbacks.
	I thought that would be a pretty good idea.
	Uh I think we need a full accounting of the money.
	More importantly, I I'm gonna be honest what my goal here is.
	My goal is for the people of Ukraine to get their country back.
	Uh and and to live in peace and to stop dying.
	I don't want to see any more of it.
	And I think there's a window, an opportunity and a chance that was blown.
	But the opportunity's not gone.
	And President Trump said, and I'll ask Vice President Vance about this tonight.
	You know, i if Zelensky wants to come back and do a peace deal, is the door still open?
	I think the president has made clear that it is.
	I would like that for the Ukrainian people.
	I would like that for Europe.
	And if if that makes me a bad guy, there's not gonna be a country left.
	Um you don't have to be a genius to figure this part out.
	And I would like them to have as much of their country back as possible, and I would like the territorial ambitions of Putin to come to an end.
	And I think a negotiated settlement right now is the best answer rather than Zelensky saying that this war is gonna go on for years.
	It'd be interesting to, you know, uh uh uh peace, peace all the way.
	You know, let's hear what the citizen, uh the average citizen in Ukraine, what they want.
	You know, well, I already I already told you what they want.
	They want this to end.
	Ukrainian people double digit majority of Ukrainian support, a negotiated settlement and a quick end to this war.
	I mean, it's because they they they see what's happening to the the the whole infrastructure is being destroyed.
	And that's why the mineral deal will help them, because that'll allow them to to uh to rebuild their country.
	Anyway, my friend, I'm gonna run.
	I appreciate the call.
	Joe and LJ, what's up, big Joe, champion of the taxpayer?
	What's going on?
	Sean, I'm so fired up about the speech tomorrow night.
	I think Trump will give a great speech, and I think he'll call on Musk.
	You know, not call on him, but say that he's fired up about what Muskie is doing to cut waste, and I think the Republicans will give him a standing ovation, and the Democrats will sit down.
	So it will be a clear indication to the hard working American taxpayers that if you want waste and fraud cut out, you need to vote Republican because the Democrats don't care anything about doing away with waste and fraud.
	Doesn't that make sense?
	Makes a lot of sense, Joe.
	You always make sense.
	I've known you since my local days as a radio host in Atl in Atlanta.
	I started killing you in 96.
	Or before that, really, in Atlanta.
	92.
	Yeah, I was there from 92 to 96.
	I was really they celebrated me in the AJC when I left.
	1996 was a great year for the city of Atlanta.
	The Olympics came and Sean Hannity left.
	Well nobody gave Fox News much of a chance then, but it it would kind of worked out okay.
	god god had my back uh thank you joe god bless you you're a good man uh let's say hi to jim in my free state of florida he's holding down the fort while i'm in the swamp what's up Jim, what's how are you?
	Glad you called.
	I'm doing well, and thanks for the privilege.
	Um, you know, boy, since since Friday, there's there's been so many talking heads, there's been so many different things.
	But you know, I'll tell you, my initial impression was I was really flabbergasted.
	I felt that there was a time for everything and there's a place for everything.
	And the way that that escalated publicly, um, I thought was at that time I thought was really undignified.
	But then in hindsight now, since that time, uh, I look back and I and I've reviewed it a number of times, and I'm seeing where Zelensky actually initiated it.
	Uh, because he came in, you know, and he said you're just going on and on and on, the same old, same old, same old Zelensky, um, expecting a blank check.
	And uh that wasn't going to happen.
	And I felt, you know, because initially it was supposed to be a very, you know, cordial diplomatic meeting in front of the press, go back at sign the papers, signed the treaty, signed the deal, have lunch, let's let's move on.
	And it just didn't turn in that way, and unfortunately, it didn't turn in that way in front of the cameras.
	Uh but at the same You know, a lot a lot of people wish it didn't that this happened behind closed doors and not in front of the American people.
	I I disagree with that.
	I think transparency is a good thing.
	And to watch this unfold in real time in the Oval Office, they could have stopped this at any point.
	Nope.
	Donald Trump is very different.
	And he let it play out, and and that's what would have happened behind closed doors anyway.
	Probably would have ended the same way.
	And, you know, let's see if Zelensky is smart enough, you know, and gets his head on straight and realizes he can't win this war.
	I I don't bel the best he can hope for, and that's with U.S. money in in the hundreds of millions of uh billions of dollars being spent, and Europe spending hundreds of billions.
	He you know, if he's say if he's predicting this is gonna go on for years, there won't be a country.
	It will be nothing left.
	It'll be rubble.
	And we don't need that.
	We don't want that.
	Then then America's gonna have to come in with a Marshall Plan and and rebuild the whole thing.
	And we don't want that either.
	We have a rare earth mineral deal where they'll be able to have the monies to rebuild their country.
	I want that for them.
	I I I admire the the Ukrainian people.
	They fought valiantly.
	They've tried their best.
	They don't have the money, they don't have the resources, they don't have the manpower to fight this war, and Europe is not going to provide it.
	And if they believe that, then you know, let me say uh, you know, beautiful estate on the moon.
	It was a great education.
	It was a great Yeah, it was.
	I mean, and this is what Donald Trump does so well.
	Anyway, my friend, thank you.
	800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh let us say hi to Bob in Texas.
	God bless Texas.
	What's up, Bob?
	Oh, Sean, thanks for uh taking the call and allowing me to share some insights with you and your listeners.
	Let me put it this way.
	Uh and fair disclosure, I am a Trump supporter, one point oh, two point oh in between, been behind Trump uh all along.
	I am a retired U.S. Army colonel.
	I will tell you that I have spent a lot of time in Russia and in Ukraine over the last thirty-five years.
	I've actually been in Russia on U.S. military orders.
	I know the people and the cultures and everything of both countries really well.
	My wife is Ukrainian.
	I speak Russian fairly well.
	Uh I would put my impressive.
	I would put my cat myself in a category of somebody being uh extraordinarily well informed about the whole situation.
	But the real reason I called in to you is I want to summarize what happened last Friday uh very quickly, and you know, I have looked at this, analyzed it, you know, watched the entire event on Friday, and you know in all honesty, with careful analysis, this is the way I see it.
	It went fairly well for the first 29, 30 minutes between Trump and Zelensky.
	As soon as JD Vance opened his mouth and started talking, he basically started provoking uh Zelensky from everything that I can see that this was really a provocation on on his part.
	But I would fault both Trump and Zelensky uh as well.
	I would fault Zelensky for not using his interpreter.
	If he had used his interpreter, he Z Zelensky speaks English, understands English fairly well, but if he'd used his interpreter, it would have given him time to think about what he was saying, think about what the what Trump and and Vance were saying.
	It would have just created a buffer if he had used his interpreter, and I fault him for not doing that.
	The other thing is you alluded to this a few minutes ago, but you know, honestly, there should have been a private session before the public session.
	You know, uh both Trump and Zelensky's staff, you know, could have seen this coming the way it happened.
	If they had put these guys in the room quietly together for maybe 30 minutes to an hour and then allowed the media in, I think this could have been done and been completely smoothly accomplished and exactly, you know, well, I I just I'm gonna gently push back on that because the way this was designed was it was supposed to be a ceremonial agreement on rare earth minerals.
	And so everybody already agreed to that part.
	So they had their chance and the expectations were that that was what it was going to be about.
	And I don't disagree on the interpreter part.
	Um when I interviewed Zelensky a few weeks back.
	I mean, the the interpreter makes it very, very hard to have a conversation with him, and he never answered a single question.
	And we didn't even air part two in the interview because it just it it it kind of diminished the value of the interview so hard.
	But uh, you're a great patriot.
	I understand what you're saying.
	You make a lot of sense.
	You obviously care deeply about the region.
	You're very knowledgeable, and I'm grateful for all of your contributions, you know, and your everything you you're trying to express here.
	What we're watching unfold is a tragedy.
	And it is one that we have an opportunity to hopefully stop, and I pray that we do.
	All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
	Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel from the swamp from DC.
	Vice President J.D. Vance brings us a front and center into Friday's meeting with Zelensky.
	Also, uh Pam Bondy, the AG, will join us.
	What is going on with the FBI withholding information requested by the attorney general of our country?
	We'll get to the bottom of that.
	And the our Hannity Washington briefing with Caroline Levitt, 9 Eastern, C D V R tonight on Hannity from DC and a preview of the State of the Union.
	We'll see you tonight back here tomorrow.
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