Sean Hannity Show - Epstein Files Released - February 27th, Hour 1

Feb. 28, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show

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Epstein Files Released - February 27th, Hour 1

Alina Habba, Counselor to the President, joins Sean to discuss the White House's release of information on the Jeffrey Epstein case.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	There is plenty of news that is going on.
	Um we'll get to some of this later.
	An incredible Oval Office presser uh with Keir Starmer, who is the uh British Prime Minister and President Trump and covering a wide variety of of topics.
	It was so good.
	I think we're gonna play a lot of it uh coming up later in the show.
	We just have so much news that is breaking uh today.
	Um now I want to be very clear as we begin.
	I guess phase one, if you will, or part one of the Epstein files are now they're out there and are being released.
	I've had a conversation with Marsha Blackburn.
	And Marsha Blackburn has been one of the loudest voices of people that have been looking for these files to be opened.
	Uh, she's been very critical of the FBI.
	Apparently the FBI has uh video footage uh and IRS records, and she believes the FBI is thwarted again, the FBI under Biden and Harris.
	The effort to be transparent.
	And uh the saddest part of this is these files today reveal 254, what they believe to be 254 victims, quote, masseuses.
	Uh some of them they believe underage, and those names will be redacted, obviously, and rightly so.
	Um now we have known a lot about uh names that have been mentioned and people that have been associated with Epstein for a long time, like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew.
	Uh, you know, remember President Trump, yeah, there's a picture of President Trump from years and years ago with Epstein, but when he became a member of Mar-a-Lago and he found out how he was treating people, he threw him out of the club.
	Uh and and wanted nothing to do with him.
	This guy seems on every level to have been somebody that wants to be around uh wealthy and famous people.
	And so I think it's very important that you understand that um what Pam Bondy is doing, she's releasing flight logs, a lot of names, et cetera.
	And that basically this will will be a first step in terms of of creating a roadmap where law enforcement, and it includes law enforcement notes as well, is my understanding, uh, so that they can take this and find out how deep this this whole corrupt, you know, sex trafficking scandal goes and who might be involved and who may not be involved.
	Um, and when you hear you know, names, uh you know, you've gotta also one of the things that I think has been signature in the show, and I kind of said this in this media interview that I did, is on this show we don't rush to judgment.
	Just because somebody flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane does not mean that they're guilty of anything.
	The only thing I would argue, and they have the day everybody is presumed innocent.
	You don't rush to judgment.
	We're not going to do that here.
	However, the good news is with the release of names, I would like to think that if the people whose names, some of which I will mention to you that you know, uh again, you get you give them the presumption of innocence.
	I hope they'll be cooperative with the FBI and with Attorney General Pam Bondi and and give up whatever information that they have.
	It is uh I think it is critical, especially when you're talking about victims and underage victims uh and the numbers that we're talking about.
	Now, sex trafficking is a hundred and fifty billion dollar a year business.
	There are that many sick, ugly, evil, twisted people in the world.
	So I think that everybody that that maybe Epstein worked his way into their world are guilty.
	I do not.
	But you know, I think they they they do owe it to the they don't owe it to the public if they don't want to.
	I know if it was me, I would want it out there and say, uh, the guy said uh he was flying the same place I was flying, so I took a ride on his plane, big deal.
	That would not be a big deal.
	Um, but you know, I noticed that Mayor Bloomberg's name is is in today's first file.
	Do I think Mayor Bloomberg is involved with Epstein?
	I have no way of knowing.
	My gut tells me no.
	I have no idea.
	Or uh Ellie uh Wazell uh or Naomi Campbell or Angie Dickinson or Alec Baldwin.
	They're all presumed innocent, and everybody needs to understand that.
	I think people expected today, you know, big big bombshells.
	The New York Post put out earlier today that there really aren't big bombshells here, but what we are learning is the extent.
	I mean, you had former President Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew, who his career ended up being ending in disgrace, and and some other people, and all of this information hopefully will get to the bottom of it.
	We never got to the bottom.
	This is phase one.
	And there's going to be other phases and other information that will be public, and over time, hopefully a full picture will emerge, and then hopefully those people that have had contact with him and that contact now in full transparency is being released.
	Hopefully, many of them that were not and never would have been involved in anything like this can cooperate.
	It is obvious that this guy, there is a word for that, Linda, but you can't say it on TV.
	This guy loved to be around rich and famous people.
	There's no doubt about that part.
	But the idea that it's that extensive should scare everybody, and anybody with a heart and a soul, I think would want to be helpful in getting to the bottom of what they knew when they knew it, what they saw, you know, at any point were they ever alarmed.
	And uh, and hopefully, and then I'd like to know what happened, you know, with the suicide when he he hung himself from a bed that was low to the ground, and the cameras just happened to be not working that day.
	And the prison guards just weren't working at that moment.
	It seems a little too convenient for me.
	But do I know any do I know anything for sure?
	I do not, and we don't want to get over our skis, and we won't get over our skis.
	Um, so anyway, we'll we'll get into this more.
	We'll check in with Alina Haba coming up.
	One one source said the person said the unveiling would be a disappointment to sleuths that are eager for bombshell new evidence about the you know, the billionaire uh psycho connection to prominent political and business leaders.
	Um anyway, the client list included is in the initial release, which was compiled into binders described as phase one of the Epstein files, copies of the binder circulated.
	I just believe in transparency.
	And what they do with it from there is going to be part of what the DOJ and the FBI hopefully will get to the bottom of.
	And, you know, hopefully these girls can get justice.
	And if you have any information, or if anybody has any information, they have to make sure the identity is protected in their personal information of the 254 victims that we're talking about here.
	Asked if the Department of Justice would release a list of the clients.
	It's sitting on my desk now.
	That's that's been a directive of President Trump.
	Um, you know, still nobody really knew what this guy did for work.
	We just knew that he was filthy rich.
	Of course, the Lolita Express and everything else that has been public now for a long time.
	And and hopefully soon thereafter we'll get to the bottom.
	We'll get the release of the JFK files, the RFK files, the MLK files.
	Well, why is all of this been hidden from the public since the 1960s?
	Tell me tell me why that makes sense in any way.
	And the answer is obvious it does not.
	Um Trump's education department is investigating civil rights violations ignored By Joe Biden.
	Nearly a hundred anti-Semitic violence and harassment cases not resolved under the Biden administration.
	Almost 70 of them occurred after the Hamas attack on Israel and related to elementary, secondary, postsecondary schools, according to the Trump Department of Education.
	They announced these investigations, which I'm glad.
	This cabinet meeting has gone very, very viral from yesterday, and that the government shrinking efforts will now go all across government.
	We'll get into more detail on that.
	And achieving a trillion dollar debt reduction requires savings of four billion dollars a day from now until the end of September, and Elon Musk saying that we can get that done.
	The president went into great specificity in detail today about what is emerging as a deal.
	He doesn't want to in his case get over his skis either.
	There hasn't been a deal made.
	I don't know.
	Everybody in the media would like for President Trump to start calling either Zelensky or Putin names and assert blame, etc.
	Well, first steps first.
	Zelensky will be at the White House tomorrow.
	It's going to be the establishment of this U.S.-Ukraine mineral fund.
	The president emphasized with the British Prime Minister today that that will mean that there is going to be a U.S. presence there.
	We know from Emmanuel Macron that they're willing to put troops uh inside of Ukraine to help with the safety, security, and rebuilding efforts.
	The mineral deal will also be a 50-50 deal.
	We're going to help America's going to help with its technology to extract these rare earth minerals.
	And that would first pay back America for all the money and the weaponry that was given to Ukraine over time, but more importantly, it will give money to Ukraine to allow them a time and effort to rebuild.
	I do believe that the U.S. will maintain maximum, you know, recognizes U.S. gave Ukraine a significant financial contribution.
	I mean, it almost became a proxy war, but anyway, that there is an agreement on the rare earth mineral deal, which means that Ukraine and the United States will be closer than they've ever been.
	And then, of course, Europe has to do their part to protect their continent.
	Poland is scrambling air defenses as Russia strikes western Ukraine.
	And the U.S. is flying nuclear capable B 52 bombers off of Russian borders on the anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine.
	Does Donald Trump want an escalation of the war?
	know we all anyone with a brain wants war in europe and war in the middle east to come to an end uh there are two things happening simultaneously russia's economy is suffering And Gordon Chang made an interesting observation to John Solomon's JustHnews.com that China's espionage activity against the U.S. as well as the country's business and economic policies are designed to weaken what Beijing sees as their chief rival.
	The American people need to understand the nature of the challenge.
	China wants to take down the U.S. because they believe we are an existential threat.
	And Chang told just the news that China's reported economic growth of 5% is probably inflated and that President Chi and his refusal to rely on domestic consumption means that there is a potential for tariffs that would have a significant effect.
	And Donald Trump, you know, addressed the issue of reciprocal tariffs once again today.
	And that is going to be a big component in preventing countries from taking advantage of us.
	We had a caller from Canada the other day.
	And I want to be friends with Canada.
	I like Canada.
	But if the people of Canada, you know, rely on the United States for the bulk of their national security and defense, and then they're not paying their fair share to NATO, and they're not doing enough to control their borders and stop the influx of illegal immigrants and drugs into our country, then they're not being good neighbors.
	And the idea that America is even giving them, you know, billions of dollars on an annual basis.
	Why are we giving them billions of dollars?
	Why do they have tariffs on a lot of American products like dairy and um you know agriculture and poultry, et cetera, they won't allow American seeds to be imported into their country.
	Well, why are they putting tariffs on our products?
	I mean, the idea if you want if if you believe in free and fair trade, then you believe in free and fair trade.
	It's really that simple.
	Anyway, so we're gonna get into uh all of that.
	Um there's a lot of coverage today of Gene Hackman and his wife have been found dead.
	I'm not exactly sure what's going on there.
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	Look at all the what they keep finding.
	Trump's uh HUD secretary, uh Scott Turner announced that he was eliminating costly Obama and Biden era federal zoning rules that Trump warned would destroy suburban neighborhoods.
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	This comes a week after Doge discovered nearly 40 billion in spending last year linked to issued plastic to employees.
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	31 million.
	Oh, no need for doge.
	The Trump State Department has identified $60 billion in grants that could be eliminated.
	Thank goodness John Roberts stopped this court order on foreign payments by a lower Biden appointed judge.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable.
	But in this case, Trump State Department completed their review of U.S. foreign aid, and this is under Marco Rubio.
	$15,000 worth of grants, $60 million for elimination, and it's all the same crap.
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	Um Alina Hobba's going to check in with us.
	We're going to get an update from her on the Epstein file phase one release from earlier today.
	And again, I I want to put emphasis on we don't rush to judgment just because somebody's name is mentioned as having flown on the plane or whatever does not mean that they knew or were guilty of anything.
	It just gives it gives the FBI and the DOJ a roadmap, hopefully, to learn more information to get to the bottom of what they have identified in this phase one report today, 254 what they believe to be victims, what they're calling victims, and get to the bottom of it.
	I mean I I would I would hope we can you know all agree that that's a good thing, but it doesn't mean just because somebody's name is on it that they're guilty if anything.
	This guy seems like he was obsessed with celebrity and obsessed with money.
	That's the the one takeaway.
	And and in the course of my life, I have noticed that there are people.
	Yeah, you kind of figure out over time, yeah, maybe they really only like me because I I'm a public figure.
	I've had that happen.
	Linda, you've seen that happen.
	We've discussed that many times a number of times.
	And it's frustrating.
	I mean, I just try to be nice to everybody and be a good Christian.
	Well, that was your first mistake.
	Why being nice is a first are you backsliding again?
	I'm there backlide.
	Listen, see, the unique thing about me is that I actually stay in one spot, you know.
	Like I get listen, I I think the president's doing a great job.
	He's being nice to everybody.
	I wouldn't be nice to this prime minister, not for one second.
	And well, I mean, you know, I I know everybody wants him to just like drop bombs on everyone's head all the time.
	Well, actually, JD Vance did do it.
	I have to give JD some credit.
	I did see JD talked about the freedom of speech restrictions.
	Uh, and we'll get to this and play some of it later, but the freedom of speech restrictions in Europe and how it does impact American companies.
	I mean, they have free speech laws all over Europe now, and it's it's gotten insane.
	Absolutely crazy.
	Anyway, we welcome uh our friend Alina Haba back to the program.
	I thought at one point you said, no, Sean, I'm not going into the White House.
	Now, you went in, you did you remember saying that to me, right?
	You're a hundred percent true.
	Correct.
	I said that.
	Famous line.
	But I will tell you, uh, because when I was there to interview the president in the Oval Office, I got to see you and Dan Scavino in Scavino's office.
	And it is really great to know that people like yourself and Dan and everybody there.
	I don't I'm gonna miss a million names.
	That you guys are there and that you do it at you know, great personal cost and sacrifice uh financially and and opportunity costs and the expense of maintaining two homes in many cases and uprooting your kids and sending them to the new schools, it's hard to do.
	Yeah, I'm I'm actually away from my kids, and uh that adds another layer of it.
	But it is the ultimate sacrifice.
	Um it is really not the ultimate sacrifice, but it is a sacrifice that I I'm proud to be uh endeavoring on.
	And you're right.
	I told you many times at Marilago, I remember saying right, right?
	Like you said it.
	I said, Sean, I'm not going in.
	I'm gonna go into the pro keeping the private sector, and you said, okay, Hava.
	Here I am.
	Famous last words, but it's so nice.
	I kind of suspected you might I he's pretty persuasive.
	You gotta admit.
	If you know him personally, he is very persuasive.
	The art of the deal.
	The art of the deal, Sean.
	It's funny.
	I I haven't spoken about this, but I uh I remember I was I saw Susine, our chief of staff at Marilogo one evening.
	They were doing transition meetings, and I was having dinner with my family, and uh she caught me in the lobby of the club and said, Alina, um, go in and speak to the president.
	I said, Why?
	She said go just go in and speak to the president.
	And I walk in and there's screens everywhere, the transition team's sitting there, you know, Howard Lutnick was there and uh many other members, and the president looked at me and he said, So what are you going to do in the White House?
	And I said, No, sir, I'm not going.
	And he said, And why are you not going?
	And I gave him my reasons and he said, So what are you going to do for me in the White House?
	And I don't realize it was, you know, you're negotiating with the best negotiator, but it was a blessing.
	Everything he's pushed me to do has been so tremendous, and I just hope I can uh give this country one ounce of what they deserve in my time here.
	Yeah, I'm sure you I'm I'm sure you will.
	I mean, the fact that uh there were there were different times I'd interview you and it looked dire with dealing with the lawfare and the weaponization and all these different cases, and you and other attorneys were juggling them all, and I remember uh, you know, I'd expressed to you my concerns about that I I I really feel he put it all on the line in terms of this.
	It was either the White House or they would have tried to put him in jail, and I think they probably would have been successful.
	Do you think I'm wrong?
	No.
	I think you and I had some of the most frank conversations.
	That's why I value our friendship.
	Um, but we always were very honest with each other throughout the last four years of hell.
	And really there is no other way uh than explain it was war.
	It was a different kind of war, um, but it was war.
	And we were fighting for his safety for the American people, for our country, um, and for his family and his livelihood, of course, but it affected such a bigger thing.
	The stakes were so high, and there were days that you would ask me how it looked in the courtroom when you couldn't be there yourself, and you were for many, uh, you know, supporting us every single day.
	Um, but we I was always honest with you.
	I I said, I I don't I don't know.
	I'm nervous, I'm worried.
	And uh, you know, you can know you have a perfect case, you can know your client did nothing wrong.
	But we were hailed into the worst states in the worst AGs and the worst DAs.
	We had DOJ officials coming in fighting against us, and it is a blessing, and I think that's why the energy here is so tremendous, and that's why it was kind of an easy ask.
	I I thought back and I I remember talking to my family and saying, I'm not sure what to do, but when the president asks you to serve, and I I serve at the pleasure of the president for the American people, you do so.
	Um and you know, you can say you're a patriot all you want, you can fight the fight, but uh when it comes time to to really put in the work as we did the last four years, and we're about to do for the next four, there's no better example than President Trump.
	I mean, the man's been through true hell, true hell.
	Um I mean, it really has been.
	Uh, I want to transition a little bit into this phase one of the Epstein files, but I I do want to set up a caveat.
	Um one of the signature reasons for I believe for the success of the show is that we don't rush to judgment and we wait for all the facts to come in.
	And we do believe in the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty when it comes to the Epstein case, names have come up in the past, like uh let's see, Prince Andrew and uh who else were crying out loud?
	Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, and those names have come up, but it doesn't mean that they did anything wrong.
	So I want to be very clear.
	In this phase one, what we are discovering and what Pam Bondy and and FBI director Cash Patel have released shows they believe they've identified 254 victims, uh many of them under age.
	And then there is a list of famous people's names on the list.
	Not that they have done anything wrong, but they were had contact with this guy Epstein, including like Alec Baldwin and Mayor Bloomberg, Ellie Wazell, uh Naomi Campbell, Angie Dickison.
	Am I correct in that?
	Yeah, uh they're exactly right.
	There's uh and and the American people should be very careful of this.
	And you're absolutely right to uh raise caution.
	So there were flight logs that were released.
	Um those obviously have names of individuals.
	We released a list of uh items that have been seized and were seized, exhibits, things of that nature, photographs but you will not see the actual exhibits.
	Obviously we are still uh Department of Justice still has active cases that they need to pursue and we cannot provide everything also for the anonymity of the victims, frankly, first and foremost.
	And then there's a Rolodex attached, has things like United Airlines, his security people, any contacts that he has.
	Um those are really the tranches of the first phase of dump.
	Um but we did say we would we would show it, we have shown it.
	Um nobody should be assumed to have been partaking in illegal activity just because they're on a uh a list uh in a Rolodex of course I mean I have two thousand contacts that doesn't mean that if I do something wrong they've done something wrong.
	Um but there's uh flight logs and and information that a lot of people wanted to see and we are transparent.
	Um we have a Department of Justice that now operates as a department of justice that will vet and proceed with caution but with vigor and that's the plan.
	And and we'll talk to Marsha Blackburn has been pushing very hard for to for for this to be released.
	If nothing else this guy seems to have sought out people that are famous and people that have money.
	And it's not it's it's not the rush to judgment that just because their name shows up that they're on a flight log and they flew on his plane that they've done anything wrong in any way, shape, manner or form.
	However, they certainly, I would hope, would want to know when you identify 254 victims and some of them are underage and you have personal firsthand knowledge of a flight and what you might have seen might be valuable information to the FBI.
	Because the previous FBI under Director Wray, and my understanding is they have video footage, IRS records, and...
	that the FBI previously thwarted the effort to be transparent.
	And again, I mean I'm I'm just looking for those people I'm just assuming they're innocent.
	And I'm but I I but I think it's important for the investigation part of it to find out you know what did they know?
	What did they see and you know what was their relationship with them et cetera and then I'd also like to get to the bottom of how he committed suicide with a bed that was uh close to the ground the way he did and why the cameras weren't working and why the prison guards that were supposed to be there just were MIA at the time when it was needed.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah I agree.
	Um look lucky for us Galen is is very much alive and in prison.
	I do have questions about the way he died, as every American, curiosity and skepticism, frankly, like you said.
	I am not rushing to judge anybody, but I do think that we have to go through the process, and we have to do so in a way that makes Americans feel safe again, makes Americans feel like we're not just going to target you because you're some rich guy that was on a Rolodex, but more importantly that we are going to target when we do find that people were raping minors, that we will hold them accountable.
	There is no excuse.
	If that is discovered, if...
	there is enough evidence to bring a case I assume that Pam Bondy will do so.
	You agree with me this guy seemed like a Star Chaser Yeah 100% actually it's funny you said that I I read it and I was like okay you know Star Chaser is the chaser was not the word I used but yeah uh a hundred percent well it's not the one I'm gonna use but uh the that I'm using in my head even but you know it is radio and uh there's an FCC out there that would probably find me fine you shut me down be canceled.
	No the reality is yeah no I it actually does appear that way he obviously likes to take photographs of celebrities we know that um this guy anybody with a sick sickness like his and and really I I don't say that to excuse his behavior but this was a sick sick man.
	Anybody and frankly Ghalayan as well right there with him who was brokering young children for trafficking um which is actually going to be a primary portion of my focus here in the White House in my portfolio um they d they have a s a special place in hell for people like that.
	And uh if you partook in that knowingly and and you were going on trips solely for the reason or for any part of the reason to have sex with minors on an island remotely and think that you were going to get away with that.
	That is not happening i in this country but you know him liking famous people sure him wanting to hang out with famous people sure we see it all the time.
	it's funny.
	It's usually people with power that like to be around people with more power, people with more money, people that can get them photographs.
	And and this guy definitely kept a sort of um I I think look, from from what I've seen from the paintings hanging in his home that we know, he had, you know, painting of Bill Clinton in a dress right in his entry.
	Um, he obviously had a fascination and an infatuation with famous people.
	That's why I say don't rush to judgment, because he probably sought them out and and probably those people, you know, were impressed that quote the fact that he had as much money as you did.
	Uh Alina, we do appreciate your time.
	Uh I know you're busy, and man, what what what what a rockin' shock in all time it's been since inauguration day.
	And uh what a what a great honor it must be for you and everybody there to be a part of that history, and watching it is just makes me smile every day.
	Because the alternative was not a good one.
	Uh Alina Haba, we appreciate you.
	We've come a long way from the courtroom messages we were talking about.
	So no, it's time to be alive.
	Well, so and so says this drawer looks favorable, and you're like, hell no.
	And I always said I was like, nope.
	Nope.
	Don't believe it.
	I'm like, oh anyway, we appreciate Alina Hava, 800 941 Sean.
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