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All right, news roundup and information overload hour 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, it's kind of hard to believe in this post-COVID world we live in that there are still people being denied medical treatments because they don't have the COVID vaccine.
And you know, no, I'm not making this stuff up, but it's just a fact.
And it's, you know, we have 2.7 trillion dollars of taxpayer money paid overseas, you know, for Medicare, Medicaid, and I want to get to the bottom of all of that.
Um, I believe it was Caroline Levitt that was talking about that amount of money this weekend.
Um, you would think that the government might just fall on the sword and acknowledge a mistake.
And that emergency authorization proclamations and promises as it relates to the COVID vaccine just turned out to be flat out false.
I mean, Americans were told again and again that if you got the vaccine, you're not gonna get COVID.
That didn't play out the way they claimed.
And if you get the vaccine that you're not gonna infect other people.
That didn't play out, obviously, either.
Uh and then, of course, we were we had this this whole misinformation campaign uh in terms of well, it looks like it was exotic animals uh somewhere in China, and and that's the likelihood when we now know through emails and text messages that have been released publicly that they knew damn well that the odds were very high that it was a leak from the Wuhan Virology lab where they did gain a function research on coronaviruses and
that NIH money funneled through the Eco Health Alliance was a big part of all of that.
And when you get to all, you know, when you when you just dig down deeper and deeper and deeper, you just begin to realize, and then the add to that the suppression, which even Mark Zuckerberg in that letter, and this was before the election, this wasn't to placate Donald Trump,
but you know, before the House Judiciary Committee and Jim Jordan wrote a long letter admitting all the pressure that the Biden administration had put on Facebook and now Meta at the time, uh Facebook at the time, now Meta, you know, to suppress certain information, including the laptop from hell, but more importantly, you know, health-wise, uh, and they're both important stories.
They wouldn't tell Meta the truth.
Well, now we have, you know, this this issue of all the fallout, nobody's ever been held accountable, and Fauci has his preemptive pardon.
Uh, I have no idea why Dr. Deborah Burks went on with our friend Piers Morgan and actually said the COVID vaccines were nothing like childhood vaccines.
They were never designed to protect against COVID infection.
I'm like, excuse me.
Because that's exactly what the government was saying.
Listen.
And what we've done wrong in public health is we didn't explain that COVID vaccines were nothing like the childhood vaccines, and that the childhood vaccines, like many of the diseases, you get it once, you don't get it again.
And this is getting the children to have that disease without getting the deadly consequences.
That is not what the COVID vaccine was designed to do.
It wasn't designed to prevent against infection.
And if you look at the vaccine hesitancy rates, they've doubled since COVID.
So we have to start addressing these things.
The messenger RMA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease, because that's what the disease that's what the vaccine was developed for.
But when we say that we're following the science and the data, we need to follow the science and the data.
No, we don't.
Just don't listen to the people that didn't tell us the truth.
Let's take a little trip down memory lane And Biden Democrats giving false vaccine claims that we had fact checked back in at the time.
For making sure healthcare workers are vaccinated, because if you seek care at a health care facility, you should have a certainty that the prov people providing that care are protected from COVID and cannot spread it to you.
The various shots that people are getting now cover that.
You're okay.
You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
Vaccines prevent getting infected, prevent getting sick, prevent your hospitalization.
Our data from the CDC today suggest um, you know, that that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick.
Um and and that n it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real world data.
Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus.
The virus does not infect them.
The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else.
Pretty unbelievable.
Pretty unbelievable.
And and doctors that dared to, you know, speak out and and offer some alternative treatments.
It turned out there's been study after study that showed that remember hydroxychloroquine.
Well, starting with the Henry Ford hospital study, then there's been many numerous other studies.
Yeah, taken early mitigates symptoms.
Whoopsie, Daisy.
I guess uh, you know, the people that we were putting on this program ended up getting it right and everyone else got it wrong.
But all right, joining us now is Dr. Lynn Finn, former infectious disease specialist, now focusing on clinical research to bring integrity back to the scientific community in their research, and Dr. Brian Tyson, uh, our friend who co-authored overcoming the COVID-19 darkness, how two doctors successfully treated 7,000 patients.
Well, uh welcome back both of you.
Dr. Finn, I'll start with you.
Uh, what's your reaction to the lies now in retrospect in the statement of of Dr. uh Deborah Burks?
Well, it's not unusual for Deborah Burks to uh hide the truth.
She's done that since the eighties um for HIV.
But that said, it it's clear that they marched her out because they're concerned about the lowering uptake of the childhood vaccination schedule.
And this is her way of trying to say don't do that because just you kept getting COVID from these shots and you may be injured from these shots because it's different than all than the childhood schedule.
So it's actually her trying to uh make the childhood schedule look more attractive to new parents so they don't question anything on it.
It it is insane that she is actually coming out and stating, you know, the internet and and the TV is pretty much forever, stating that it was never designed to prevent disease or transmission, because not only uh did it not prevent disease,
but but duration of transmission is increased in those vaccinated as as uh studied in the nature paper showing the shed duration of lie virus culturable virus during in the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated.
So everything she states you have to take with a grain of salt because um maybe her scarf isn't tight enough.
I don't know, but she's not being honest, and she's trying to me a culpa so people will go back to the full vaccine schedule without questioning.
Dr. Finn, I had no idea that you had such a sense of humor.
Ouch.
Uh let me go to my friend Dr. Brian Tyson.
You know, you came under heavy fire.
Uh, you and and many of your colleagues, there were a number of you that that put yourself out there and were were saying, hang on a second, you know, raising ethical questions, and you took a lot of heat for it, but you didn't stop doing what you were doing.
Was there ever any real fallout as a result of that?
Well, I mean, the real fallout was that many people got injured when you look at it.
I mean, we we started to see vaccination breakthrough, And then the uh LA Times, you know, put out that nice hit piece on me saying that, you know, we were spreading a lot of misinformation.
Uh, but yet here we are, we're the ones taking care of the patients.
Patients uh, you know, needed treatment, they needed early treatment.
Um, and the vaccine was causing more problems than good.
And you know, it that's that's who who lost on this when you know you have a trust in the public health department to do the right thing to to tell honest uh findings, and they don't do that and they hide it instead.
Well, now you know the mistrust uh is there, but also you know, injury rates, death rates, uh that you know, people have died from these vaccines that you know nobody's been held accountable for, and I think it shows you how deep uh this underlying problem in our government is going.
The gaslighting is is unbelievable at this point.
The amount of pressure brought to bear on the medical community and even people like me in the media to tell people I mean, I went through a similar issue with the New York Times.
I I came very close to suing them, and you know, after consulting with a lot of lawyers, I mean the Times v.
Sullivan is uh is such a high bar because you have to prove malice, and you know, but I had two people over there writing, well, if my mother listened to Sean Hannity though, she'd be dead from COVID.
And I'm like, uh really?
Because Sean Hannity said, do your own research, uh, consult with your doctor, and you know, take into account your your previous medical history and any comorbidities or pre existing conditions you have and make an informed decision, but I'm not a doctor and I can't tell you what to do.
That was my advice.
Doctor is that bad advice, Dr. Tyson?
Yeah, and when you're telling people, you know, the vaccine is going to protect you a hundred percent, you're giving people a false sense of hope.
And then so when they never told them that.
But by the way, if there were scientists, wouldn't they know that that the that variants would would evolve?
Uh wasn't that almost a fact from day one?
They knew it, they knew damn well from day one.
And and Lynn and I, we have we have always been telling people that, you know, but they shut us down, they tell us, oh no, there's no breakthrough when we're seeing 10, 20 percent, 30 percent breakthrough.
You know, and you're still telling them, oh, if you get the COVID shot, you're not gonna get COVID.
But then they do get sick, so then they think, oh, well, it must be from something else.
And then they get super sick, they end up in the hospital, and these people ended up dead rather than seeking treatment.
And and that's the shame in all of this.
And there's there's been no accountability.
And I I think you know, we we we need to keep calling it out, and people need to demand that these people be held accountable for lying to the public.
You were put under fire, but recently, as of yesterday, NBC is recommending that everyone go out and get the newest booster.
Um physician, they're not even uh an agency.
They're they're they're nothing but a media company, but they're telling people what to do without any scientific data to back it.
And you you stating to talk to your doctor and do your own research is the correct way to handle it.
But telling people to go out and have an action that they have no data behind, that that's that's I mean, I mean, think about this.
I'd be and then that if something happened they would accuse me of practicing medicine without a license.
I I was in a no-win situation, but I had serious doubts, and everybody seems to forget it was emergency authorization.
And and then we have the whole Dr. Robert Malone factor in this who created the technology for the creation of the mRNA vaccines.
And my interviews with him, you know, directly, he said this this has not been perfected yet.
He said I would use it on a limited basis because COVID was impacting older people and people with pre existing conditions.
He said 65 or older.
And and only because of it seems to really impact older people and people that are have other issues.
Otherwise, nobody else should get it because it hasn't been perfected yet.
Nobody paid attention to that, Dr. Tyson.
Wasn't believe he changed his stance since then as well, um, just to be clear.
Who changed the stance?
Uh Dr. Malone.
And what to what?
What did he change it to?
To it's Not ready for prime time period, uh, regardless of age.
Um it it it doesn't serve in the same uh He said it with great I don't want to I don't want to misinterpret what he said.
He said it with great hesitancy.
He goes, I can understand if they if they made it available for people that were older and with pre-existing conditions because they were more susceptible to dying.
Right.
Yeah, what you want to say, Dr. Tyson.
I was gonna say the the problem was the technology wasn't designed to be a vaccine.
The technology was designed to um affect cancer cells that your then immune system would then be able to attack and kill cancer cells, not healthy cells in your body to create a vaccine, so you're attacking healthy cells.
The whole pretense of this whole technology was used completely off the wrong platform.
Yeah, and additionally, it has an accumulative effect, and the lipid nanoparticles themselves are pretty inflammatory and problematic.
So with each shot, there's more accumulation, and it was never meant for widespread repeated use in a healthy population.
It was meant for a curative potential use in a terminal subset of a population.
And it was it's our kids.
Certainly not our kids.
You know, we yeah, exactly.
You mean get transplants without a vaccine.
And and here you have Deborah Burke saying, Well, it was never intended to be a childhood vaccine schedule.
Well, then why is it on the childhood vaccine schedule?
So they can have liability.
I honestly it's uh unbelievable to me.
You know, I'll tell you the net effect of this, people will never trust the government again, and frankly, between that and all the waste fraud and abuse, I don't think they should.
And I and again, I go back to trust your own doctors that you really believe in and have faith in and that know your individual medical history and then make your own informed decision.
Uh anyway, Dr. Lynn Finn, thank you.
Dr. Brian Tyson, thank you.
We appreciate you both.
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800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Ray in Florida.
Ray, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks for being with us.
Hello, Sean.
So glad you're down here in the free state of Florida with us.
Yes, sir.
My free state of Florida, your free state of Florida.
What's going on?
That's right, sir.
I wouldn't leave it for love nor money.
Um listen, sir, I I I I wanted to talk to you about I I don't understand why you give this raging Cajun, James Carble, so much time.
I mean, the man is a literal liberal hack.
I I I don't give him so much time.
I've had him on twice in a year, and I'll be honest, it was kind of a waste of time last week.
Because some so many of the things that he said you know were just false, as I've been pointing out.
Uh I mean, we have this poll out today.
I mean, it is glowing, the Harvard Harris poll for Donald Trump and the CBS poll that I referenced, glowing for Donald Trump and Rasmussen and Insider Advantage and Trafalgar and Quantus Insights and Echelon Insights.
I mean, all of them, McLaughlin and Associates, Morning Consult, all have him, you know, with record numbers, and he's sitting there telling us stuff that just is not accurate and true.
It's not true.
But the thing that gets me, Sean, and I and I've known this for a while, but with your last conversation with him, it really kind of hit me like a baseball bat between the eyes.
These people so desire Trump to fail, and it will impact I mean we went through four years.
I mean, ten bucks for eggs, millions coming across the border.
I mean, egg prices aren't coming down because of the Xavier and flu nonsense, which is separate and apart from the economy.
So, you know, hopefully other prices will come down, and it's it remember we're still living under the Harris Biden account economy.
Exactly.
And exactly.
But they want to want us, they want everything Donald Trump touches to fail.
This means they do.
And and and Donald Trump is trying with every ounce.
I mean, you talk about a man on jet streams.
He is there doing things to try to make our life better.
And these people are in the background praying, hoping, lying to see him see all I'm I'm he asked me to fact check him.
So you know what I'm gonna do tonight on TV, we're gonna fact check it on air.
Fact check his comments about the lowest but approved rating ever.
I'm like wrong.
Yeah, uh the the highest debt ever.
No, um, when you compare the debt deficit of Biden Harris and Donald Trump, sorry, uh, it's not even close.
Now, both of them had a COVID year.
So uh I'll extrapolate out that year for both of them, 2020 and 2021.
And if you look at the numbers, Trump's deficits were six fifty six hundred and fifty five billion, seven seven nine billion, nine hundred and eighty-three, extrapolating out the COVID years for Biden and and Trump.
You know, it was much higher under Joe Biden.
You know, one point three, one point seven, one point eight three.
You know, and now he left us this year what will be two point five.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
So, um, and and you know, and then he just dismisses the idea of you know tens of billions of dollars in waste fraud and abuse.
I I just expected him to be a little bit more centrist, but apparently he just went hard in the paint that he wants to be radical.
But he here's my dilemma on radio or TV if I put a liberal guest on occasionally is if they just i I have two choices in that moment.
I can be the most interruptive host, which my audience is repeatedly said they don't like.
They don't like it.
Or let him speak.
He said to fact check him, now I'll fact check him.
And I d I otherwise and then the third choice is, you know, and in this case, I'm not so sure it's even worth having him on again.
Because he's not gonna be reasonable or or tell my audience the truth.
If if you want that kind of programming, you you've got channels, although those channels are in disarray.
And but occasionally I just try and change things up a little bit.
That's really what that was an attempt at, but it it didn't really work too well.
Yeah, well, him and that whole possum crap.
I mean, I mean I I was sitting there going, you want to just sit back and hope and pray that inflation fails.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They want Trump to fail.
Yeah.
And and here we are, the American people who have just I mean, uh Sean, I'm 65.
I've had my own business for 30 years, okay.
I am now at age 65 because of the inflation and everything else.
I am having to work harder than I did 10 years ago because the nut to be, I mean, manufacturing, the cost of getting goods, everything.
And I work in the medical and dental field and everything has gone up 300 percent.
You know, it's just it's it.
And to hear a hear a man or you see a political party like that one congresswoman who said, you know, we don't need five thousand dollars.
Five thousand dollars is to two mortgage payments.
You know, listen, I totally get it.
And Trump's policies will work.
Conservatism works.
It just needs time.
And if you remember, you know, it took a while for Reagan to get his economic.
Policy up and running.
And we went through two years of a of a pretty difficult recession.
It didn't help him in his first midterm.
But then he ended up with the longest period of peacetime economic growth.
up to that point in history and created 21 million new jobs.
So it was an amazing success and and these are the you know many of these same policies on steroids and human growth hormone are going to be implemented under President Trump and the Republicans in the House and Senate need to get their act together.
But listen, I hear your frustration.
I listen to my audience and I listen closely.
It just would have been bad television if I just went, you know, no, false, false, false.
And I kept interrupting him.
Then I get, you know, a slew of comments.
Why don't you let the guy get a word out?
And so I just tried to have a friendly debate with him.
But, you know, if he wants to be in that unreasonable, you know, will put the rights of illegal immigrants immigrants over the safety of Americans camp and you know fight for women um men and women's sports and fight against massive fraud waste and abuse and the and what will be hundreds of billions of dollars then he can just stay there in la la land because they'll never win another election again and I'm fine with that.
You know but you can see is as I discussed earlier in the program today there's a major fallout in media but by the very same people that have adopted this strategy.
Jim Acosta's out at CNN and Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell they're out at MBC and MSDNC Joy Reed and and Alex Wagner are out now Lester Holt is out.
There is a realignment but really what they're doing is they're just going to reshuffle the decks of the Titanic they're not going to change who they are the the media now is already locked into where they were exactly when Donald Trump was president and they will go exactly where they were when he was out of office and it's it's hating Trump every second every minute every hour of every day and the same with Democrats.
They're gonna do the same thing.
Look it's noise that doesn't matter to the country but the people in this country they they they like what he's doing as evidenced by all of the polling.
And so we've got to focus on making sure we get the right message out which is why I wanted people to hear from Elon Musk directly and and we accomplished that last week.
So uh mix back I understand I get a failing grade you you um I I will plead guilty.
Anyway I appreciate the call my friend thank you uh let us say hi to Steve in California the United Socialist Utopia.
What's up Steve?
How are you?
Hey Sean I appreciate you taking the call I I've been a very long time listener and yes I am coming to you from the People's Republic of Camifora as a free man.
How can you be a free man when you have to pay all that money to be free.
Well you have to pay a lot of money but sometimes freedom costs a little bit of money Sean I you and I both know that.
I I I wanted to get your thoughts on the potential audit of the Federal Reserve because this is something that uh we've been screaming for for years and years and years and it looks like we may be on the precipice of having a Fed audit.
Uh what do you think that would look like um I love a Fed audit.
I love an audit of everything.
I I like to hold people accountable.
I mean look For example, the last caller just held me accountable.
He didn't like something that I did, and I owned it, right?
So, you know, a check that's a check and a balance, and I try to listen to my audience and put the best shows on possible, and occasionally you miss.
And I'll admit that I swung and missed.
And um all be zingers.
They can't.
But uh well, not yeah, sometimes you get a single, sometimes you get a grand slam, sometimes you just strike out.
And and I would admit that, you know, I'd put that in the strikeout category to be honest.
So uh I as far as that goes, um, what are your thoughts about uh the d demolition of USAID, but it being absorbed into the State Department?
So now what we've done is we've got rid of an NGO, but we've made that NGO part of the federal government.
I well, I don't think they're doing that at all.
Let me let me just be on the record and be very, very clear that I think where we where we are, first of all, they're cutting back on all of this this reckless spending.
I I'm I've been going through it throughout the show today, even more spending.
And that it's every department.
I mean, ultimately where we have to get to is we need a line by line audit of every aspect of federal spending.
And that's for that that is where we're going to continue to find waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption.
And then we've got to examine you know the bureaucracy, and I know it's upsetting to some people that there are people that are gonna lose their jobs.
There's no doubt about it.
You know, the Treasury Secretary this weekend, as I mentioned earlier, you know, the democratic media with their talking point, they have a new talking point working overtime to pretend that the tens of thousands of government officials laid off by Doge is cruel and it is unusual punishment.
And they all had the same talking point.
GOP lawmakers confronted by constituents, CBS, New York Times, USA Today, MSDNC, Washington Post, CNN, Huffington Post, Newsweek, they all have the same headline, all of them.
And it was some form of GOP lawmakers get an earful on Elon Musk's doge.
But then the polls come out, be it CBS, morning consult, um, this this Harvard Harris poll, and they show the American people are very supportive of the policies.
And I I would tend to go with them because anybody within an ounce of common sense that they were born with realizes that this is unsustainable, and you have to sometimes you know, sometimes you you you just have to deal with the problem,
and there might be some pain associated with it for some people that frankly shouldn't have been there in the first place, spending money on wokism, transgenderism, DEI, the new Green Deal abroad, and meanwhile, we're stealing from our kids and grandkids.
They you you have to make a decision here.
And if we don't make it now, it's gonna be harder down the road.
And if we don't make it now, we might not be able to catch up.
So it is it is pretty dire.
It's like this is now do or die for us.
So it's the perfect time for it.
That Grover Norquist school where I want government to be reduced to the size where you can drown in the bathtub.
The that no, I mean, I I I want the smallest government possible that also effectively provides for our national defense, national security, secures our borders, that implements great tax policy and and energy policy to make us dominant and you know,
understands the need that the world is a dangerous evil place, and we better have the next generation of weaponry, including an iron dome for the entire country, considering the the the powerful AI generated weapons that'll be coming down the road.
I want that government.
I want a government that made that made promises on Social Security Medicaid to the American people, and President Trump's not going to touch it because he understands that was a promise made, and then it's now it's gotta be a promise kept.
But they gotta return it toward solvency, and those those are difficult things as well.
And rethinking everything from education to law and order, it just makes perfect common sense.
And short of that, you know, where can we cut?
You know, what is really essential?
And this is now where we are.
The department of government efficiency.
How do we make government efficient?
How do we how do we save the American taxpayers money?
And the now we're finding what will be hundreds of billions of dollars in this.
And it's it's time.
The time has come.
And what are they fighting for?
What?
A future that guarantees bankruptcy and stealing from our kids and grandkids.
That's unsustainable.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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