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Feb. 18, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Average Americans Paying - February 17th, Hour 1
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Well, my the reason we're not running the interview with uh the president, uh President Trump and Elon Musk tonight.
It is a holiday.
Happy President's Day or Washington's birthday.
I don't know what we call it anymore.
I can't keep up with all these name changes.
Um, and it is what it is.
And um, but we uh I I I will tell you that the time I spent with them was pretty amazing.
And as much as what we are discovering on top of everything that we already knew, and we have repeated on this program and scrolled repeatedly on TV.
I even said at one point in the interview, I said, I I can't waste this precious time with you guys and start listing everything, so I'll scroll it.
And we can do that in what's called post, meaning after the interview, you just you know, add it while you're asking the questions.
And we just keep finding more every day.
I mean, it is pretty it's it's pretty unbelievable.
Now, we have a report out today that now just to be clear, Elon Musk has yet to determine whether eight point seven million people listed on the Social Security rolls as being over 130 are currently being issued Social Security checks.
They're just on the rolls, so we don't know.
But his latest find is that you have 8.7 million Americans that are listed as being over 130 years old that are on the list.
Now, I would say the odds are probably high that some of them, if not all of them, it might be the biggest fraud in history, or you know, have been getting checks, or somebody in their family's been getting checks and just saying, Oh, well, the government's nice enough to send me this.
Why didn't why don't I just use it?
So they're examining the Social Security roles.
We got to get a final number and figure on this.
And there are far more eligible Social Security numbers than there are citizens in the USA.
I'm like, huh?
You can't make that part up.
Again, that that number includes 8.7 million people on the list eligible, quote, of that are over 130.
We don't know whether the these 130-year-olds or somebody in their family is receiving a check, but he said, quote, this might be the biggest fraud in history.
We don't know, so I don't want to jump the gun on it, but it's it's certainly fascinating when you just begin the process of exit doing a real audit, a line-by-line audit of the federal government, and then to watch the media freak out the way they are and the Democrats freaking out the way they are, and I'm perfectly fine as I've been saying with them freaking out.
And if they if they want to fight for all this waste fraud, abuse, corruption, let them fight for that.
Let them bet let this be the hill that they want to die on.
I'm I'm okay with that.
Anyway, it it is real in terms of the names being there, according to this report, Fox News, with a population count in 2020 in the last census.
It was more than 331 million uh Americans, the count of people ages a hundred and older was more than eighty thousand, according to the Census Bureau.
Now, Musk said the logic flow diagram for the system looks insane.
And the in other words, what he's saying on the surface, this looks insane.
On the surface, we got to get to the bottom of it.
And he was very clear in the interview with me.
He said, We're gonna make mistakes, but we're gonna quick those, we're gonna fix those mistakes very quickly.
The person actually knows how it works.
The payment files that move between the Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled.
It's it's he said it's just wild.
And you know, if you want to retire from the federal government, it takes a whopping six months, and they do it by hand in some underground bunker limestone, you know, mine from years gone by.
I mean, this by hand, we live in the computer age.
We live in the age of artificial intelligence.
Um, we have another report out today that Afghanistan is expected to experience a seven percent economic decline because of severe reductions to U.S. foreign aid according to the Central for Global Development.
And over the past three years, Joe Biden's administration has taken your tax dollars and given more than three billion dollars in aid to Afghanistan run by the Taliban that stole our military equipment.
They should have returned it, and Joe should have demanded it and solidifying their position as the nation's largest financial donor, meaning we are.
Well, what is the Taliban doing for us?
What I mean, it's it's still as radical as it once was.
Uh I'm not sure why, but whenever Rand Paul does something, I always believe there's a reason behind it.
And he's called for a review, Senator Paul, of the of the of Fort Knox, which is the vault, the massive gold reserves with an estimated four hundred and twenty-five billion dollars based on current market rates in response to Elon's, you know, talking about the stash.
Anyway, uh it drew attention to a user who asked him to take a look inside Fort Knox and make sure that 4,580 tons of U.S. gold is actually in there.
And Musk replied on X that surely it's reviewed at least every year.
And no, Ram Paul said nope, it's not, referring to the Army installation south of Louisville.
Uh, so that's another area.
Uh, new discoveries.
Elon Musk's Doge has discovered that during the Biden's four years uh in the White House, Congress granted $31 billion to the Department of Health and Human Services to provide housing, medical, legal services to their unvetted Biden Harris illegals, and that's from fiscal year 2021 to fiscal year 2024.
Congress gave FEMA's shelter and services program an additional 2.2 billion for nonprofits and local entities to provide support to non-citizens released from the Department of Homeland Security study in 2024 alone.
FEMA set aside $640.9 million in shelter and service grants to enable non-federal entities to offset allowable costs incurred for services associated with non-citizen, in other words, the illegal immigrant arrivals in their communities.
Denver, DC, Chicago, Massachusetts, New York, and Philadelphia.
Democratic run states and cities with sanctuary policies offering free housing and services to illegals.
Now, also remember, in the course of all this, they lied.
In the course of all of this, they were telling us the border secure for four years and that the borders closed for four years.
I mean, spectacular lies, and the American people saw through it.
The media, well, why didn't they do their job?
Why didn't they go down to the border and report the truth and tell the American people, considering they all claim to be these great journalists that they're not?
And this is why I said, you know, after this election, legacy media is just dead.
And, you know, how will you how do they ever regain your trust?
And if you even watch them today, all they've done is doubled down on stupid and dumb and dumber because they keep doing the same thing.
It's like hate Trump 24-7.
And interestingly, Rasmussen has a poll out today.
Elon Musk now has a solid 55% approval rating, had a good approval rating of poll by Insider Advantage in Trafalgar last week.
And the president and the most voters like Donald Trump's decision to put Elon Musk in charge in light of everything they've been saying about the poor guy.
I mean, I'm I'm surprised, you know, he's been so demonized by the left.
I'm surprised he has any approval rating at this point.
Uh, you know, when when you have people on the left and Democrats, oh no.
Nobody voted for Elon Musk.
No, nobody voted for any cabinet members either.
But they did vote for Donald Trump, and Donald Trump ran on eliminating waste fraud and abuse.
People are dying due to doge cuts.
No, they're not.
There's no evidence to back that up at all.
You know, Elon Musk is a male body part, the street vernacular.
I'll save you from me saying it.
Um, crisis is happening in America.
Okay, well, we got out of the corrupt WHO agreement.
That's 1.28 billion dollars.
The WHO's 2023 budget.
Paris Accords, you know, if Biden's inflation reduction act included $369 billion towards fighting climate change through clean energy tax grants and other means.
Now, the GAO put out a report, we told you about it last week, $233 billion.
That's over a quarter of a trillion dollars that they discovered in waste, fraud, and abuse last year alone.
And it includes none of the things that we've discovered.
It doesn't include the 24 million for you know the country of Georgia and green transportation or the 29 million for an agricultural trade diversification program or 4.5 million to build a societal resilience in the face of disinformation in Kazakhstan.
And that didn't include $7.4 million to enhance inclusion, accountable governance in Northeast Syria, or $44.8 million for food, economic assistance for Venezuelan illegals in Colombia,
or you know, the six point seven million to protect protect biodiversity, wildlife crimes in South Africa, or you know, money paying for transgender comic books in Peru and transgender operas in Colombia and DEI musicals in Ireland and advancing the DEI in Serbia workplaces.
This is all money spent abroad, and I can keep going.
It just is no shortage of the list of money that we have.
I I I'm betting that when it's all said and done, we're going to be over a trillion dollars that we discover, and it's all going to be spent on this new Green Deal, radical Green New Deal, you know, wokism, transgenderism, LGBTQ abroad, not for the American people.
And for the average American that makes sixty-six grand a year, and for the average American that's been suffering four years for the paying for the quote cost of democracy to quote Kamala Harris and pay higher energy fees, and for the very people that are putting bare necessities on their credit cards, for those Americans that have suffered, even though we were told the economy's flying.
By the way, if you notice now, Democrats all of a sudden they notice the economy is not good.
Donald Trump said on day one, well, on day one, he's implementing his policies, you're right.
But we have to actually get it out from under the Biden Harris economy that he inherited.
And yeah, day one, he's working to make that happen.
The federal government has been stealing trillions of dollars in the Washington Times, Robert Knight writes a piece.
If you want to know and you think about this, if you want to know how badly your tax dollars have been wasted, the Washington Times reported Sunday that the figure is well into trillions of dollars.
That's trillions with a capital T and an S on the end of it.
One expert testifying before Congress last week that the amount of improper payments issued by federal bureaucrats since 2003 comes to a staggering two point seven trillion.
And as the Washington Times pointed out, it is becoming clear that the federal government has been stealing trillions from American taxpayers and hiding, and this is a point I've been making over and over again, how they have spent them.
They label them, you know, very innocuous, benign, generic titles.
And meanwhile, they know what the money is really being spent for.
But they put all of this money into, you know, it's it's it's hilarious to watch as government jobs are being reduced, and seventy-five thousand people that work in DC have taken the buyout, others will be fired and let go that the home market in DC is on fire.
People dying to sell their homes.
Probably you can get a deal if you want to live in the D.C. area, although I have no idea why you'd want to.
The chief executive for LexisNexis testified to a House committee on Wednesday that federal agencies had reported $2.7 trillion in cumulative improper payments going back as far as 2003.
Now, do you really and by the way, there have been people over the years that have pointed out we had years ago citizens against government waste.
Tom Cotton is, I'm sorry, remember Senator uh Tom Coburn, Oklahoma, uh William Proxmeyer, you might remember him, Wisconsin Democrat published annual lists of all the absurd government spending.
$109,000 to study the mating habits of the Japanese quail.
I don't know why that sticks in my mind.
Democrats are screaming this is a constitutional crisis.
No, it's not.
You know what it is?
The constitutional crisis has been that they stole this money from your children, your grandchildren.
They brought Social Security and Medicare to the brink of insolvency.
They've left wide open borders that has allowed uh known terrorists, known murderers, rapists, you know, cartel members, gang members into the country.
Another new report puts America's 2025 deficit at a dangerous $3.3 trillion.
We're getting to the point where interest on the debt is more than what we pay in national defense, and the debt to GDP ratio is going to be higher than at any point since World War II.
We cannot sustain this as a country.
By the way, the New York Times had to retract, and by the way, so should Rachel Maddow their story claiming that Trump awarded Elon Musk's Tesla a $400 million contract.
Doge dug up a $1.9 billion and taxpayer money misplaced at how do you misplace $1.9 billion?
How does that happen?
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Now, here's how bad this is.
This is where we're headed off the fiscal cliff.
And this is where it gets very, very financially dangerous for the country.
You know, when we start paying more on interest for the national debt at you know, $37 trillion, because they've been now we're exposing how they've been robbing hardworking Americans and they've been hiding what it is they've been spending the money on.
I mean, we're now at for the first for this recent for this first quarter, the federal government had a mind-numbing $838 billion cash shortfall.
And that's for the that this is all under Harrison Biden.
And if you do the math, that's over $2.5 trillion that our deficit will explode this year.
That brings us to close to 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Okay, now we're getting to the point where it becomes unsustainable.
And it is it is mind-numbing the numbers you you know, you hear millions, billions, and trillions.
But now we're finding hundreds of billions in all of this money in waste fraud abuse and corruption.
You know, Doge dug up another 1.9 billion in taxpayer money that quote was misplaced.
How do you misplace 1.9 million at the Department of Housing and Urban Development?
How does that happen?
You know, how does a top agency recover that sum only because Elon Musk did it?
And I know it's maybe fashionable, although the American people are quickly not buying it.
There was a Rasmussen poll out on top of the Trafalgar and Insider Advantage poll last week.
You know, his popularity as more and more people become aware of it, they're gonna realize Elon Musk is a national treasure.
And I I I there's so much I want to tell you about him that I don't want to tell you until after the interview.
And I'd never met him before.
And I spoke with him, I had some significant time, both on air and off air with him.
And I just started asking him about all his different projects.
I mean, this is a guy that started finding Zip 2 and PayPal and SpaceX, where he was, you know, he funded it himself, chief engineer.
Uh he was bought into Tesla early.
I saw that Cheryl, what's her name, Crow, you know, gave her Tesla to MPR?
I'm like, good.
Give it a give everybody that likes MPR and PBS, they can start paying for their own for the own content because the American people shouldn't be paying for NPR or any of, you know, any of this is nonsense or PBS.
They have an agenda, it's radically left.
You know, he's worth four or five hundred billion dollars.
And, you know, what are the things what is there to hate about him exposing us?
He's putting our personal information.
No, he's not putting personal information at risk.
You know, how do you possibly, if you don't go line by line, agency by agency, how are you going to root out this corruption?
There's no other way to do it.
He wasn't elected.
No, but neither was Pam Bondy to be the attorney general or Pete Hegseth or or any of the other Trump nominees or RFK Jr.
You know, anyway, and you know, this is a guy who envisions, you know, and has a plan to to put to get spaceships to go to Mars and put plants on there and see if life can be sustainable there.
You know, this is the guy that had the first private company to place astronauts in orbit.
This is a guy who created Starlink, which offers internet coverage to a hundred countries with these with these satellites that he's launched.
I have Starlink.
It's great.
You know, Starlink is also, or Star Shield is designed to improve our national security and national defense.
If you recall during Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton, you know, especially people in Tennessee and and in the western part of North Carolina were hammered so hard they were totally disconnected from the world.
Elon Musk donated Starlink so that people can communicate with the rest of the world again.
He did the same thing for the people in the Pacific Palisades after the wildfires out in California.
And to hear him talk about rescuing two astronauts that frankly were abandoned by Biden and Harris for nearly 300 days.
They're only supposed to be there for eight days, is pretty remarkable.
And why is there this vitriol, this hatred?
Because he's exposing them.
He is he's shining a light on corruption.
He's shining a light on waste and abuse.
He's not getting paid his salary.
He's doing it for free.
You know, just like he donates all this stuff for free, just like he's gonna, you know, he's he's helping people with communications for free.
You know, and then I I started asking him at different times about some of the other projects.
I didn't know everything about Elon Musk, but I really did a deep dive into him.
Um you might not know this.
You buy a Tesla, they have their own insurance company.
Maybe I should get a Tesla next.
Friends of mine swear by their Teslas.
They love it.
You know, Cheryl Crow wants to punish Elon Musk and begin this little boycott of hers to send a mess.
What are you sending a message to?
What are you missing a message about?
What you don't you you're perfectly fine?
It's acceptable to spend the money the way we've been exposing how this money's being spent.
That's okay with you?
You think it's fair to your children and grandchildren?
Is it fair to the average American that only makes 66 grand a year?
When's the last time Cheryl Crow it never left me?
You know, I yeah, I at this point in my life, I have money.
I do.
But I didn't have it for a lot of years.
And I remember what it was like.
It's the weirdest thing.
Your brain doesn't change.
I mean, the people of my life cannot believe how I dress in my real life.
They just can't.
Linda, how bad is it?
You can tell everybody.
I don't care.
You don't want to tell anybody.
Oh.
She's she Linda has left the building.
She's she's departed for different places.
Uh well, we have uh I think Jason is there.
Jason, am I the fanciest dresser in the world?
No.
New.
No, what do I wear every day when I when you see me?
Uh you've got that old.
I got what?
She's back.
Hoodies.
I do.
I wear I wear black t-shirts usually.
You've got that no homeless shelter can hold me back.
Look.
I'm the John Vetterman of Talk Radio.
I don't know.
You wish.
And if I could uh what you think he dresses better than me, is that he's suggesting that he does not.
I wear I wear jeans.
I've improved my look a little.
I mean, and when I have to get dressed up, I'll get dressed up.
If you have holes in those sneakers, I don't have holes in my I did one pair of shoes years ago.
And I didn't know it until somebody pointed it out because I put my feet up.
I did, but I didn't know I had a hole in it.
I had no idea.
You should never felt yourself for admitting that.
Why should I be ashamed of myself?
I mean I mean, at this point, I have everybody in my life, it's sort of like an all hands-on-deck intervention to get me to dress better.
You know, starting with my daughter.
She's like, Daddy, stop.
You're an adult with a job, you should not have holes in your snakeers, okay?
You shouldn't have it.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, and then I have to find out.
I don't know.
I mean, I think you look a lot better now.
I mean, to me, you know, I'm I'm sure it's between Ainsley and and your daughter, and you know, your sister, and I think everything's like.
It's all true.
It's it was it's been an intervention in my life because I don't think you dressed before you just dress like a dude who didn't care.
I if I could, I'd still dress.
I still wear my black t-shirt, and I still have a if I'm home or just not going anywhere, that's that's what I wear.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You know, I mean, now you got your boat shoes, you got your fancy pants, I don't I no, no, no, no, no.
I don't have boat shoes.
That is absolutely false.
I don't even know what shoes.
I do not have boat shoes.
I have the sneaker-looking grip shoes, so they're really sneakers, except they look a little dressier, and they have that white around the downside of it.
Anyway, I digress.
So there is also a robotic part of Tesla, which I is fascinating, but I think the most interesting thing is the work that he's that Elon is doing in AI and how much AI is going to change the world.
You know, I was talking to somebody over the weekend, somebody who's seeking my advice, and I said, get a trade.
This is a person that kind of has had, you know, a few obstacles in their life and challenges, and I'm like, well, are you really ready to make the change?
If she said, if you want my advice, my advice is to get a trade, become a plumber, become a contractor, become an electrician.
I don't care what it is.
And I said, you know, just beg somebody if you can interm with them, and I guarantee you you're gonna get a job.
And then learn that craft and go to school at night, and you can really turn your life around.
There was an article about the the next generation of millionaires are gonna be the tradesmen because there's gonna be such demand for it.
That's not something AI can take over either.
Not that I can imagine in any way.
Um, but the most interesting thing that I think that he's involved in.
Have you ever read about Neurolink, Linda?
Do I have a what link?
Did you ever read about Musk and Neuralink?
Oh my gosh.
So it's really funny that you're asking about this.
So Sarah Carter's husband, Marty, is blind, and one of the things that Noralink would do would really help people who are blind be able to see again.
So we actually follow it pretty closely.
I talked to him about that.
And a friend of mine, Steve Wynne does not see well.
And I talked about he knows Steve, and I asked him, would that help him?
And but it integrates the human brain with AI.
And by the way, it's not putting a chip in your head.
I know people, you know, more conservative.
No, yeah, it's a huge misconception.
Yeah.
And but it has medical uses for example, people with spinal cord injuries, they think they might be on the precipice, the the cusp of inventing a way for them to walk again and for the blind to see.
I mean, pretty amazing.
Although I think my first question, you're going to find the funniest question.
One of the funniest questions.
Okay.
And it was me asking Trump about the lawsuit with Twitter.
Oh my God.
Yeah, that's how I started the interview.
It was pretty funny, actually.
That's awesome.
You know, if you go back to the Twitter files, what do we learn in the Twitter files?
That and I didn't have time to really delve deep into this because I just there was so much to talk about.
Well, it's not relevant now, anyways.
It's well, it is and it isn't.
I mean, the internal discussions to censor the very real Hunter Biden laptop.
No, no, I just mean that you know now that that you know Elon is there and he runs and how they expose blackballing of conservatives and how they you know the internal workings about deciding to suspend the president of the United States' account.
Uh the close ties with Twitter to the FBI, which we've known about in the months leading up to the 2020 election, they were meeting with big tech companies.
And and you you don't give as much credit to Zuckerberg as I do.
Way before the election, this is before we knew who the winner or loser would be.
He he had long conversations with Jim Jordan, and then he wrote that letter admitting to everything that they were involved in in the discussions with the FBI, etc.
And he agreed, okay, uh we are out of that business, and we're at we're getting out of the censorship business.
And this was before Trump was even elected.
Anyway, so I I think it was that that tells me it was more sincere.
Um, although I know a lot of people just hate him, and they're gonna always forever hate him.
I'm not saying I like or hate him enough, but what the FBI did pre-bunking that laptop was unbelievable.
And then just the day before we learned in the Twitter files, the FBI tipped off Twitter and then started sending them sensitive data.
And then Twitter, they wanted Twitter to share sensitive data with the FBI.
Well, I mean, even look at some of the payouts that we had of you know, big, you know, digital news outlets that were literally the invoice said social media censorship and social media um, you know, devising a plan to to redirect, you know, American citizens.
I mean, this was a this is a very coordinated effort.
Yeah, or you know, uh, or the CIA working with social media, you know, and they wanted social media to put out this information worldwide.
And and some of it was about COVID.
I mean, every instinct we had on COVID ended up being right.
We put the right people on the air for COVID.
Yeah, and a few of them lost their medical licenses and had to go to court.
You think we'll ever get their legal fees back?
I doubt it.
No, no.
What do you think happened to me?
I mean, when Jim Jordan told me that my social media accounts were suppressed in the in the lead up to the 2020 election, or that my private personal text messages, you know, that they didn't get from me, you know, they released all of them publicly.
I mean, just because I'm a public figure, do I not have a right to privacy?
100%.
Apparently not.
You know, or the effort to propagandize the American people on COVID.
That all came out.
That's why I don't hate him.
And when you get to know him, I mean, he's such a fascinating guy in so many ways.
I mean, his brain works very differently, and then he's got you know, the innocence of a child.
He really does.
He's just he's just fun, And he enjoys life.
He enjoys the thought of thinking about all of these incredible human developments.
I urge everyone watch the the men that built America on the history channel and then kind of look at look at Elon and through those eyes today.
And he had a message for billionaires that I thought was brilliant.
But we'll air that tomorrow.
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We got you.
Now I'm Carol Markovitz.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
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