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And uh but first I want to go to my interview.
I did fly to Washington earlier this week.
I sat with the Vice President, J. D. Vance for a long and very frankly comprehensive interview.
And here is uh some of that interview.
Mr. Vice President, great to see you.
Good morning.
Thank you for the first time.
First of all, congratulations.
All right.
Has it sunk in yet?
Hill Billy Elogy.
Yep.
Now the Vice President of the United States of America.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
You know what?
It hasn't sunk in.
And you know, I I I joke that I I took two wrong turns and I ended up, you know, a hallway down from the Oval Office, and it's just an incredible thing.
You know, the first time I'd ever actually been to the Oval Office was with President Trump as his vice president last Tuesday.
Wow.
And you know, he he he always talks about, you know, you have these executives, foreign heads of state.
The Oval Office just has a particular power, and I certainly felt it, and it was just amazing to stand in that room.
And I I remember at the time thinking, I wish that I had something profound to say, and I just stood in there saying, Wow, this is crazy.
Uh no, I had the same experience when I went in, uh President Bush was in office at the time, and I remember I thought it was surreal.
I was like, is that really him?
Yeah.
Um it is a special place.
Uh and then of course Trump has his little red button, which I next to him, which is not the red button.
Which he's he he he screwed with me about that, actually.
No, so so we're he we're just mid-conversation.
I think it we were with Senator Thune and Speaker Johnson, and he has this sort of beautiful ornate wooden box on his desk with a red button, and he presses it.
Yeah, and he just kind of looks over at me, and I'm like, Sir, is that something bad just happened?
And he's like, No, I just ordered a diet coke.
That's anyway.
It's the diet coke red button and it comes running in.
Then I'll ask you, would you like one?
Yeah, exactly.
Um I've known President Trump for over thirty years.
Sure.
Had a close relationship with him in all those years.
And and he and I, when he was gonna run thinking about running, we had arguments for hours deep into the night about I said, I'm not voting for you if you're not a conservative.
You really are now getting to know him very well.
Sure.
What have you learned about him?
Well, it's interesting.
Um one, I I've learned that he has the most interesting decision making process of any person I've ever met.
And I think it's what makes him such an effective leader is that when he actually is thinking about doing something, he doesn't just ask like, you know, his closest advisor or some policy person.
He you know, if it's gonna affect a business, he'll call the business's CEOs, he'll go and try to talk to the workers.
He tries to take inputs from everywhere, and I think it's one of the reasons why he's so in tune with where the American people actually are.
But it's also I think one of the geniuses of the way that he makes decisions is that he actually tries to talk to everybody.
And um that that's something I honestly I could write a book just about the way that he gathers information from all sources.
And it's very unusual.
I mean, in Washington, most politicians, you know, they'll if it's a national security issue, they'll talk to their national security person and maybe you know, somebody else in their office.
If it's a business issue, maybe they'll talk to a CEO.
The president talks to everybody, and that's a very, very profound thing about the way that he actually operates in Washington.
I I would describe him as a force of nature, and there's nobody else like him.
Yes.
And I think in many ways he's misunderstood as well, because I know the personal side of him and I know the business side of him.
And as we've seen hundreds and hundreds of executive actions.
And you've been here barely a little over a week now.
Yeah.
Pretty speed of light.
It's speed of light.
You know, we we've I think accomplished honestly more in eight days than the entire Biden administration accomplished in four years.
And of course, the things that we're accomplishing are actually good things, and the things they were accomplishing were mostly bad things.
But the president has incredible energy.
I mean, this is something you hear other people say about him, and it's hard to really appreciate it until you're up close and personal.
I don't know how much he sleeps or if he ever really sleeps.
I mean, you'll get phone calls from him.
I can answer that.
He doesn't sleep a lot.
You'll get phone calls at one in the morning, and he'll just, you know, he'll talk about policy and he'll talk about your family.
And he he just there's something incredibly energetic about him, but you sort of need that actually.
The The Federal Government has become so sprawling, and the bureaucracy is so unresponsive to what the president actually wants to do, that you kind of need somebody in there who's constantly on.
It's all gas, no breaks.
That's certainly what we've seen in the last, you know, eight days.
I think it's what we'll see for the next four years.
You know, when when you look at, for example, uh, the two biggest issues in this campaign, immigration and the economy.
Sure.
And because that's impacting the people in Ohio.
Of course.
Right?
That's impacting their life hard.
And a lot of Americans have been really hurt.
It was a a study that came out like 56% of Americans can't withstand a thousand dollar mer emergency.
Sure.
You know, it would be devastating for them.
That scares me.
I I've been there, I've lived there, I know you've been there.
Of course.
Not fun.
Not where you want to be.
Not fun at all.
And when I think of, you know, the issue of immigration in particular, um, I'm looking at we have known terrorists in this country.
We have known cartel members, known gang members, we have known uh murderers, rapists.
And I'm I'm watching the reaction of the left and the left wing media and the Democrats, and you know, we're back to Nazi fascists, Hitler Stalin, Mussolini, and I'm like, what part of these other people are you missing?
No, it's it's it's totally crazy, Sean.
And if you look, you know, there was the guy who went viral a few days ago that we deported, 17 violent criminal convictions, and was actually saying the guy from Haiti.
The guy from Haiti.
He was saying, I I hate Trump, I love Biden because Biden wanted me to stay in this country.
Is there a better endorsement of Donald J. Trump that a violent criminal who shouldn't be in this country doesn't like him because Donald Trump is actually enforcing the immigration laws of this country?
And it's it's everywhere, Sean.
It affects everybody from all walks of life.
It's the drug epidemic, it's the crime, it's the fact that if you live along the southern border, you're affected by this cartel activity.
I mean, we've seen Sean just in the last couple of days, multiple cartel members have fired at our own border patrol.
And you ask yourself, why wasn't that happening a couple of years ago?
Because they weren't empowered to do their job.
The border has become so lawless that we're actually engaging in mill military-style engagements just to regain control of our southern border, and thank God we're actually doing it this time, because if we had another four years of Biden and the Democrats wide open southern border, it would permanently and I think irreparably transform this country.
So, yeah, we're doing immigration enforcement in a big way.
We're also doing things to lower the cost of energy, because of course, if we can lower the cost of energy, we're gonna make food and housing, groceries, everything else more affordable for American citizens.
And that really is, you're exactly right.
That is the the two prongs of the Trump agenda.
We want to create more prosperity and we want to create more security, and we're doing a lot.
We're gonna do a lot more.
I want to ask about the economy in a second, but uh we saw uh Tom Holman.
I mean, I I don't think there's anyone more.
Talk about a force of nature.
Yeah.
I've tried to make him smile.
I've had no luck.
If you if you pull that off, that would be a miracle.
But but I've known him a long time.
I have a great admiration for him.
Me too.
And almost 10,000 deportations and some of the toughest criminals.
Christine Noam, out on that ice raid in New York yesterday.
She was on TV with us last night.
Amazing, 10,000 in a week.
The president is looking for what, eighteen hundred a day?
That's right.
And you know, that's that's a pretty ambitious goal.
It's ambitious, but you need a leader who sets ambitious goals and actually holds people to meeting those goals.
If you think we've got 20 plus million illegal aliens in this country, we have got to get these people out of our country and regain control of our own border.
And it's not just the people that we're deporting.
If you look at the number of illegal entries on January the 19th, the last day of the Democrats' administration, I believe the number was north of 1,300 illegal entries.
Five days later, we had already cut that by more than 60 percent, and I guarantee we're gonna cut it even further.
It policy matters.
Elections have consequences, and President Trump ran explicitly on regaining control of the border and re-delivering American prosperity.
That's exactly what we're doing.
And it is funny, Sean, to hear the media and the Democrats howl about this and say, well, You know, th this this is bad, this is terrible, you know, this is like you said, fascist, Nazi, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The president promised the American people he was going to do this.
They gave him a mandate, so now he's doing it.
That's how democratic politics in this country works, and thank God for that.
If if I was in your position or President Trump's position, and I never will be, let's be clear.
But if I was, I think what would keep me up at night is the fact that we have known terrorists in the country.
Sure.
And we have murderers in the country and rapists and violent criminals, cartels and gang members that I said.
I'm worried about an attack on the homeland, Mr. Vice President.
How worried are you?
Well, look, I am worried, Sean, because we were given a country with hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe more, of known terrorists that are in the United States of America thanks to the open borders of the last administration.
So it's our job to worry about it so that hopefully we can prevent that attack.
So it's something that does keep us up at night.
It's something that the government is working on very aggressively.
We've got great intelligence services, we've got great border enforcement.
We're trying to identify the bad guys and get them out of our country.
Because look, what you don't want to have happen, Sean, is let's say we take a foreign policy action that some foreign terrorist organization doesn't like.
Well, now these guys, they're not in Syria or some foreign country.
They're in our backyards, they're in our cities.
We have to get them out to make the homeland safer, but also to empower the president to do the things that he needs to do when it comes to national security.
So it does worry me, but we also have a government that's actually tackling this issue.
It's getting better every single day.
How do we find them?
I mean, we you have a known terrorist, but you don't know where they are.
Known cartel members, but you don't know where they are.
Well it's crazy, Sean.
Sometimes you're right, we don't know where they are.
Sometimes we actually do.
And that's one of the craziest things of the last week, just for me.
You ask what what is shocking to me, it's that many of these violent criminals, we knew their addresses, we knew their names.
We just needed to send somebody go to go to their house and get them the hell out of the country.
That that that really should shock the American people.
We've known we've known where they are.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And we know they've had terror ties?
We've known at least that they had violent criminal backgrounds, and we haven't done anything until about eight days ago when Donald Trump became the president of the United States again.
It really should shock the conscience of the American people.
One of the things you heard on the campaign trail, one of the criticisms of me and of the president was, well, yes, we have 20 million illegal aliens, we have, you know, close to a million violent criminal illegal aliens, and we don't know where they are.
It turns out we actually do know where a lot of them are.
We just haven't had immigration enforcement, and that's what's changed so radically.
That actually gives me hope that we can protect the whole homeland, because I would imagine if you're a terrorist and you're in our country, you're not here to pursue a better life for you and your children.
Yeah.
You're here to plot, plan, scheme uh the next attack on our homeland.
And I live through 9-11.
I don't want to live through that again.
I don't want to lose 2,977 Americans again.
Yep.
Caroline Levitt, I watched her yesterday.
I thought she did a great job.
I agree.
I thought a star was born, and that's a very hostile room.
Yes, it wasn't.
Well, you had your moment with Margaret Brennan, although I I don't think she had a very good day over the weekend, my humble opinion.
And but I watched her with the media, and she was very forceful.
And I and then you turn over to MBC, and everyone from Liberal Joe to Joy Reed to Nicole Wallace and Rachel Matto, and you know, it's not with the they're back to their closing argument in the campaign.
Sure.
Nazi, fascist, racist, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini.
And I'm like, wow.
Should we should act if they're going to go there and they're gonna make such insane allegations, sure, when you're trying to get rid of criminals that have been murdering, raping, and and cr uh and responsible for other crimes against violent crimes against Americans.
Why are they even in the White House press briefing room?
Why?
You know, what what was so interesting, just just to give some more kudos to Carolyn, is she didn't have a massive binder.
And she did this incredible briefing with all of the hostile media, and then somebody asked her, where was your binder?
And she said, My binder is in my head.
And I think there's something very interesting about Donald Trump's approach to governance is he just wants to hire smart, competent people to do the people's business.
He's not worried about what you look like, whether you're gay or straight, whether you're black or white.
He's just saying if you're smart and you're loyal to the American people, you can have a place in my administration.
I think Carolyn really knocked it out of the park.
But it does raise an interesting question.
I I actually think that we are looking very seriously about which reporters show up.
Because if you're a reporter, even if you're biased towards the left, absolutely we want to answer your questions.
If you're a propagandist for the Democratic Party, then we're gonna treat you like a propagandist for the Democratic Party.
And one of the things that I think we've already done, again, we're only eight days into this thing, is you know who it's not just who's not there, it's also who is present.
And Carolyn had a lot of new media folks, a lot of young people who represent, I think the vanguard of news media in this country.
She gave Matt Boyle from Breitbart and a question yesterday.
These are actually some of the people who are driving news in 2025 in America.
And I think frankly, the MSNBCs, the CNNs of the world, they should take the hint.
Your viewership is way down, your ratings are abysmal.
Why is it that especially young people are tuning in to new media?
Maybe it's because instead of engaging in propaganda, the new media is asking real questions.
I mean, Joe Rogan, one of the biggest voices in American media now, he was a Bernie bro eight years ago.
This is not like some crazy right-wing guy.
This is just a person who's asking questions.
And unfortunately, most of the old media, they're just not interested in that.
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Uh a few more minutes of my interview with the vice president from earlier this week, JD Vance.
As I listen to them and I watch Selena Gomez, that viral video, you know, interesting.
Now I've talked to the family, as did President Trump.
I know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did not.
I talked to Lake and Riley's family.
Yeah.
I talked to Rachel Marin's family, mother of five.
I talked to Jocelyn Nungarry's mother and grandfather.
And Mike.
Where were the tears when a little 13-year-old girl was brutalized and murdered and all these other Americans murdered and raped and and victims of violent crime?
Where were the tears then?
It's a great point, Sean.
And there's something very deranged in the mind of the far left in this country where I really do think that they feel more of a sense of compassion for illegal aliens who have no right to be in this country than they do their fellow citizens.
And that really has to change.
And you know, when when when Selena Gomez had her viral moment, and of course there were a lot of other celebrities who weighed in, I had people sending me photos of little kids.
Sometimes kids the same age as my little children.
We've got, of course, a seven-year-old, a four-year-old, a three-year-old.
Thank you.
Yeah, we'll we'll get to that.
Um but but you know, kids similar age to my children who were murdered by criminal aliens in the United States of America.
And as an American leader, but also just as an American citizen, your compassion belongs first to your fellow citizens.
It doesn't mean you hate people from outside of your own borders, but there's this old school, and I think it's a very Christian concept, by the way, that you love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that, you can focus and prioritize the rest of the world.
A lot of the far left has completely inverted that.
They seem to hate the citizens of their own country and care more about people outside their own borders.
That is no way to run a society.
And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings to the leadership of this country is the simple concept, America first.
It doesn't mean you hate anybody else.
It means that you have leadership, and President Trump has been very clear about this, that puts the interests of American citizens first.
in the same way that the British prime minister should care about Brits and the French should care about the French, we have an American president who cares primarily about Americans, and that's a very welcome change.
What is President She doing?
What is Vladimir Peter?
He's looking after the Chinese.
Putin is looking after the Russians.
That they're entitled to do that.
Thank God we now have an American president who's looking after the citizens of his own country.
I ha I hate to ask this question.
I really do.
Um because of my longstanding friendship with the president.
Sure.
Um we have had two would-be assassins.
I read these reports, you would know a lot more about the details than I would.
Of course.
Um about Iranian assassination squaws in the country.
Yep.
You are now, as they say, one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Do you think about that?
I mean, God forbid that moment ever comes, and I mean, God forbid.
Yeah, I I I try not to think about it, Sean.
I mean, my attitude is I'm gonna do as good of a job as I can for the president of the United States.
Part of that, of course, is learning from him and learning about this this incredible group of people that we have in the White House.
And yeah, part of the job is, God forbid, if something terrible happens, I have to step into that role.
But I think President Trump is in incredible health.
I think that we've got a great situation when it comes to security around the president.
And I and I I really do think that he's gonna serve four years, do a great job, and I'm gonna do as good of a job I can for the American people.
He's vice president.
He's very low energy like Joe.
North Carolina, Vegas, uh, and and California in a day.
Well, and of course, on the phone the whole time, taking calls, you know, make making phone calls.
He the other thing about his energy level is he's extremely accessible, right?
And and I know it's it's it's kind of shocking to the White House press corps to everybody in Washington that the president actually is engaged in the people's government.
That's of course exactly what you want, but it is a very radical departure from the last four years.
All right, that was Vice President J.D. Vance.
I went up to Washington earlier this week.
Uh I thought he was phenomenal.
Unbelievably.
He's he is smart, he's intelligent, he is completely MAGA and and he is resolved.
Uh all right, let's get to our busy phones.
Uh Karen is in my free state of Florida.
Hey Karen, how are you?
Glad you called, and thanks for checking in.
Happy Friday.
Thank you, Sean.
All the same to you.
Welcome to Florida.
Hey, Sean, I'm just concerned about one thing and the quest two questions.
Do you consider DEI and affirmative action one and the same?
And I the re and I'll let you answer that.
But the reason I ask that question is it seems like they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I mean, if you look at the definitions and the purpose for affirmative action, well documented issues, and it was all about hiring or training or educating uh, especially blacks, um, to make the ground for a little more even.
Now I'm hearing too many conservatives and Republicans, etc.
say um, you know, DEI and they're incorporating transgender, gay, white, black, and then they're throwing in the black and the race and everything.
They're they're throwing everything in that window and saying we have to get rid of it.
So that question is do we consider it one and the same?
And then the other question is any of the DEI laws, did they ever tell any of those companies, hire them or put them in a position but don't train them?
I don't think so.
So there has to be some some blame and onness on the companies as well.
If you bring them in because you are trying to make the ground a little more leveled, you still need to train those people.
So that that's well, a lot of a lot of companies now are getting rid of DEI programs that they've adopted.
They they've been frankly pressured to adopt by the left.
Now, uh of course there's crossover.
DEI just goes and expands out so far in, you know, for example, we we were discussing the the tragedy of this this collision that took place, this midair collision in in Washington, DC, and now that we find out that that they were suffering from quality control issues and staffing shortages.
But you know, more importantly, you know, when you get to the DEI aspect that was put in place since 2013, where they prioritized politics and And DEI over what was smart and safe for the American people, I mean, it's absolutely it's it's madness.
I mean, to hire workers with severe intellectual disabilities at the FAA to hire people with psychiatric problems of the FAA, that's too important a job.
And let me be very clear, I'm against discrimination.
I really am.
And I want to point out one other thing.
Without these programs being they weren't really highlighted in Trump's first terms, woke was somewhat new to the our vernacular.
But without it, Donald Trump set record low after record low unemployment levels for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African American youth unemployment.
His economic policies did that.
And so in that sense, as long as every American, which I believe is created by God and every human is created by God and has talent from God is given a fair shot and then not discriminated against, which I r find repulsive, then I think you just hire we uh I I I'm against discrimination, but I am for meritocracy.
But I'm also for improving schools, especially in areas that have that we have failed our children miserably.
I mean, we have failed our kids at a spectacular level.
And as a result, the ladder to success in America, which is education, has been denied many children with God given talent, an opportunity to have you know the rungs and the ladder to success.
And a lot of those kids come from areas that are heavily minority areas in the country.
We're failing these children.
We're failing God's children.
And we gotta fix that.
Anyway, I hope that answers your question.
Uh thank you.
Good call.
Uh Matt in Memphis, Tennessee.
Hey Matt, how are you?
Happy Friday.
Glad you called.
Yeah, good afternoon.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Oh my you're a real hot person to get a hold of, I can tell you that.
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
I do really do appreciate it.
Um know my time is limited.
So there's there's just two points on this that I kind of want to uh make or whatever.
It first of all, well, it's a Swiss cheese factor that we that we all talk about, and you talk to any air traffic controller, they know this.
And second of all, is uh the questions that I would be answering.
But the uh the Swiss cheese factor, I watched the um radar replay and listened to the audio of it, and the phraseology was not correct on either part, whether it was a pilot or the air traffic controller.
So the air traffic controller should have issued traffic 12 o'clock one mile, you have the RJ in sight.
He didn't do that.
Now I can understand that is because he was very busy.
And the pilot again came back and he said, Yeah, have the I have the traffic in sight.
Now, had he said I have the traffic at like one, two o'clock, the controller would have said, No, that's not the traffic.
So I I I get it.
Any anybody out there, any air traffic controller, if they said they have not shortcutted something or said they haven't got the bejba scare out of them, then they're either new or they're lying.
So that's that's one.
That's the first thing that I initially heard.
Um also there's LOA's uh letters of agreement that the uh airplanes are supposed to be at a certain outsuit, and he was above that.
Now why that is, I don't know.
I have no idea.
Not to mention the air traffic controller ended up changing the room at the very last second.
Why?
Because of compression, because of somebody's overing, don't know.
So that was another hole in the Swiss sheets.
So and the controller issuing traffic not once or twice to the aircraft, and the first time they didn't answer, and my assessment is now again, I am not a representative of the FA, I'm just giving you a controls aspect of it.
But um the pilots had the head down in the cockpit, so the crew chief and the co-pilot were probably looking where they were flying, and the pilot who had the MDGs on, maybe possibly, don't know, but it obscures their line of vision.
So they said they called the traffic in sight, which was probably the wrong aircraft, I'm assuming.
Um and the other uh people in the aircraft didn't even think anything about it before it was too late.
So um, and as far as the ADSB and the and the keycast and everything else, for my understanding, when uh the the uh black hawk helicopter, they don't have those two equipments on there because they don't want the enemy to know where they're at.
And with aircraft come down and they're descending, they end up either turning it down or turning it off because there are so many aircraft coming into that area, not to mention they pick up round traffic, you know, as far as um, you know, trains or uh seminars or something like that.
So they don't want to hear that because they're focusing on um coming in at Atlantic.
Now, the questions that I would ask initially You have to be a little quicker here because we're almost running out of time, but go ahead and get make your final thought.
Uh, because I think you're bringing up a lot of good points.
Yeah, but the questions that I would initially ask was why weren't the positions split?
Um, how long was the person on position?
Um, how long were they on duty?
How many controllers were on duty?
Was the soup supervisor up there?
How many people were on break with venue overtime?
Um, we know one person left.
We know they were short staff.
We know one person was doing two people's jobs.
We know there'd been numerous uh near misses at that airport.
You know, there's a lot that we've learned.
We know that the FA put out stern warnings now going back a number of years, and that pothole P. Buddha judge did nothing.
It doesn't bring comfort to the families, but we already have the building blocks to to take the steps necessary to prevent this from happening.
And all of the points that you're making, maybe a little technical for some in the audience.
Um, I'm a little more familiar with aviation, and I know exactly what you're talking about.
You're raising very critical important questions that I'm sure the NTSB is going to get to by the time all is said and done.
But I could talk to you about it all day, and we'll we'll have more on Hannity tonight.
I wish I had more time.
But I will say this.
As an air traffic controller, your job's important.
You need you need to have you know incredible abilities to multitask, make fast decisions, and an ability, you know, to to really, really dial in and focus and know your job.
It is a hard, hard job.
And all the points that you're making are dead on accurate.
And I thank you for keeping the air safe.
For the most part, our airs are safe, but we have staffing problems, and now we have other problems that we're discovering as well.
Uh anyway, I appreciate what you do and all air air traffic controllers do.
And but we gotta we gotta get some people trained fast.
By the way, if you're looking for a job, maybe you want to think about being an air traffic controller.
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that's gonna wrap things up for today, and we'll have a lot more on the mid-air collision tonight on Hannity on the Fox News channel with a former pilot and FAA safety team representative, also Donald Trump's investigation, and a former Blackhawk helicopter pilot, also Newt Gingrich, uh Janine Piero on the firing of FBI agents.
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