Truth on Hostage Negotiations - January 16th, Hour 3
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Even Joe Biden insiders, according to the New York Post, are admitting, even his own State Depart department admitted that it took President elect Donald Trump waiting into this conflict in the Middle East and Israel versus Hamas to close the deal and get a deal to free these hostages.
Finally, we're getting that done.
It can't be done soon enough, as far as I'm concerned.
Although Joe Biden yesterday was asked a question about it, here's what he said.
Thank you.
Is that a joke?
Oh.
Thank you.
Is that a joke?
No, that's not a joke.
That would be called uh the truth.
Because there was nothing Joe Biden was doing the entire time except trying to pressure Israel not to fight back, even when ballistic missiles were being fired directly from Iran into Israel as they continue to fund terror.
They help plan, plot, scheme, organize, provide the weaponry for October 7th, and what happened in 2023 to Hamas and Gaza.
They've been funding and providing weaponry to Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad out of Lebanon.
They've been funding and providing weaponry to the Hooti rebels.
And you know, it just goes on and on and on.
Now, when asked about this, Cutter, which had been involved and very involved in this deal, as well as Donald Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, uh Steve Whitkoff, uh, you know, the the Prime Minister of Qatar was very clear that it was the Trump administration, the incoming Trump administration that helped this deal occur.
And it had everything to do with what Donald Trump said.
You, as you say, have been working on this deal for for many months.
And the question is, why now?
Why this moment?
And was it pressure from the incoming Trump administration that got it over the line?
Thank you.
Well, thank you very much, uh, for this question.
Actually, we've been raising the question of the right moment for the entire period since uh the collapse of the first phase.
Uh but we have seen a momentum that started to build in the last month, and we kept pushing for that, working together very closely with our partners.
And I can say that what we have seen in the past few days, uh, seeing uh a collaboration transcending both administration was uh a clear demonstration for the commitment of the US to reach to that deal.
And I really would like to thank uh uh both the envoys who who are here with us in the last couple of days, and they played uh uh a vital role in reaching uh to this moment.
Uh-huh.
Let's go back and remind everybody that it was Donald Trump just a couple of weeks ago vowing that all hell will break out in the region if Hamas hostages are not released before he takes office.
It's not an accident that it's happening the day before he gets sworn into office.
Listen.
All hell must be paid if they don't release the messages.
Do I have to define it for you?
All hell will break out.
If those hostages aren't back, I don't want to hurt your negotiation.
If they're not back by the time I get into office, all hell will break out in the Middle East.
And it will not be good for Hamas, and it will not be good, frankly, for anyone.
All hell will break out.
I don't have to say anymore, but that's what it is.
And they should have given them back a long time.
They should have never taken them.
They should have never been the attack of October 7th.
People forget that.
Anyway, the uh Hamas lead ceasefire negotiator actually praised the October 7th attack, vowing to continue in their war.
Remember their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Our people will expel the occupation from our land and from Jerusalem at the earliest possible time.
Now, do I like this particular deal?
No.
Do I understand why this deal is being made?
I do.
Because the people of Israel put such a high value on every single human life.
And the Prime Minister of Qatar confirming 33 of these hostages.
They've been there, what, four hundred and and forty-six days, some almost like it's it's eerily like you know, when when Ronald Reagan was coming into office four hundred and forty-four days, uh they were held hostage.
So you got thirty-three hostages that will be released, and Israel will release about two thousand convicted terrorists.
Uh and do I think that's fair?
No, I don't.
Do I think it should be a one-to-one ratio?
I do.
Do I understand why Israel is making the decision?
I do, although uh Prime Minister Netanyahu has delayed the ceasefire deal, accusing Hamas of trying to back out.
If they back out, that's fine.
Then all hell will break out in the Middle East, and Donald Trump is absolutely positive going to be the person that does it.
Is uh Caroline Glick is with us, senior contributing editor and host uh of the Caroline Glitch show.
And anyway, it's great to have you back, uh, Caroline.
Welcome back to the program.
Thanks so much for having me on your program, Sean.
It's always great to be with you.
Is there any chance this deal ever would have occurred had Donald Trump not made that threat?
Uh well, um, I think that Israel wasn't expecting that um that pressure would be brought to bear on Israel to make the deal.
Um, and so uh b by uh by uh uh Trump's Middle East uh uh envoy um the way that it was.
Um and uh the expectation was that uh when hell breaks loose in Gaza that Israel would be able to achieve its military objectives and also uh get a deal that would require far less concessions from Israel for the release of the hostages,
just as occurred in November of of last year or 2023, uh, when we had the initial uh hostage uh release uh and so I think there is a lot of surprise uh in Israel that the pressure that was brought to bear uh was was brought to bear on Israel to make the deal.
Um, but having said that, um no, there wasn't any chance that uh the deal would have been made with with Biden while he was I I I think there's gonna be a follow-up to this, and and and let my knowledge of Donald Trump um play uh uh give you some insight into where I believe he's ultimately going here.
I do believe that Donald Trump understands the importance that that Gaza must forever be demilitarized.
I think that is imperative.
The only party that has any credibility in that is Israel.
All the other parties, uh Qatar is Hamas.
They've been feeding and watering and enabling the armament of Hamas, and they've been serving it.
No, they've these Hamas leaders have been living living high on the hog in these, you know, extravagant hotels in Qatar.
There's no doubt about it.
Right, and and Egypt, of course, allowed uh uh Hamas to transfer massive quantities of weapons across the border through uh tunnels, uh pen tunnels that we found uh for weapons smuggling along the perimeter between uh Gaza and Egypt in the Sinai.
So there is no military force that can demilitarize uh Gaza except for the IDF.
And you know, one of the problems is that you know Israel isn't in uh uh war just because it feels like it we're we're in a war for our survival.
So uh there's a big fear among a lot of people who who love President Trump uh that this deal is um is it's not going to that Israel has been pressured to make this deal and that there's an expectation uh that this is a ceasefire that this is a permanent ceasefire and that's not how Israel sees it.
We see this as the partial achievement of one of our war goals which is bringing back the hostages but the two other goals of the war are the eradication of Hamas as a military and political entity in Gaza and the prevention of Gaza ever becoming a threat to Israel in any way, shape or form in the future and so those two goals have to be achieved and they're undermined by achieving the release of the hostages.
So it's you know uh people are looking to hear um you know something very clear from Trump that he recognizes and and supports Israel's war goals.
We've heard that from his national security can uh advisor Michael Waltz but uh uh uh the president himself has said things that are are less clear cut and that's something that a lot of Israelis, particularly uh government ministers are looking to hear from uh President Trump.
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He hasn't said it recently but he has said it in previous interviews with me that Israel has every right to win its war against radical Islamic terrorism and the people responsible for October seventh and he just said I would urge them to win it quickly.
In other words to unleash hell and win the war.
You know the message that you were getting from the Biden administration was to forever show restraint uh and and not to go into for example you mentioned Egypt and Rafah uh where you are absolutely correct about the tunnels there and you know what did they find three, four, five hundred tunnels from Gaza into Israel terror tunnels I had been in some of these terror tunnels.
I know what they're like I know how sophisticated they are this is money that was given by the U.S. and and by Israel and by other countries so that they could build out infrastructure and schools and hospitals but no they they use it you know to foment hatred and and and terror you know acting also on the interests of Iran which we could deal with separately here but Israel absolutely has the right to win their war against radical Islamic terrorists and those that uh aid and abet them.
Now in the first Trump administration there was such an alliance that I discussed and there was a lot of intelligence sharing and that was the US Egypt that was Israel that was the Saudis, the Emirates and the Jordanians.
I do believe that every one of those countries has a their own interest in preventing Iran, which is the head of the snake and the number one state sponsor of terror from ever getting you know close to a nuclear weapon which according to reports they are getting close to it.
Right.
Thanks to the Biden administration for not enforcing the sanctions that the Trump administration placed on on Iran.
And I think Joe Joe Biden made the Iranians rich.
Well they sure did he sure did but what all all I was going to say was that you know I agree with you with everything that you've said and and there's there's light years basically between the alliance that Israel enjoyed with the United States under the first Trump administration and the very frigid relationship that we had with the Biden administration, which did not share our war goals of eradicating Hamas and preventing Gaza from uh posing a military threat to us.
They only sought the release of the hostages.
So the concern here in Israel is that um that the hostage deal which is requiring Israel to remove its forces from key strategic areas that we won with the blood of our soldiers over the past fifteen years of war.
Uh we're supposed to leave them uh for six weeks and particularly the Netzarim corridor that bifurcates uh Gaza and allow uh the civilians who support Hamas to return to their their towns which is very dangerous and so there's a lot of concern about the strategic implications for Israel of this deal.
And that's why it's so important to hear, in my opinion, a very clear statement from Trump that he continues to stand by the positions that he so forthrightly declared repeatedly over the past 15 months that Israel should win the war and that he expects Israel to win the war and that he supports Israel's war goals.
I think that that would...
Well, I'll tell you where I am, and I don't think we're on a different page.
page.
If in the aftermath of this deal uh after the hostage situation is resolved in the aftermath at that point if Hamas Hezbollah and the Houthie rebels all funded and aided by Iran continue their reign of terror, I think at that point you unleash hell and you win the war and you obliterate your enemy.
That's all that it's the only way to do it.
I mean that's what the United States would do because on October seventh Israel lost the equivalent of what what would have been based on population size 4000 Americans.
No, I mean you can't uh you you can't unsee what we saw on October seventh and I think that's why while there is overwhelming public support for the hostage release.
Again this is one of the three war goals um you know Israelis have been praying for the return of our hostages three times a day you know every day uh since October seventh but um this is a war for our national survival and we have to win it.
We don't have a choice and so that's why there's an enormous amount of apprehension here and also you know uh political instability as a result of this deal because people understand that you know we fight with this kind of determination because we know that everything's on the line and it's not because Gaza today is an existential threat to Israel.
It's because Gaza has become a symbol for global jihad and it's not only here it's throughout the world.
So that if Hamas is going to be able to proclaim victory by surviving which is all they need to do to win then that's gonna be a beacon for jihadists in America in Latin America in Europe throughout the world because they're gonna say look uh we're winning and that's why it's essential not only for Israel's national security but for America's national security.
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All right, our final moments with uh Caroline Glick, JNS Senior uh contributing editor, host of the Caroline Glick Show, uh about the hostage negotiations.
And I want to be clear here, I don't like this deal.
I don't like it at all.
And um I think it there is way more leverage with Donald Trump saying that all hell's gonna break loose in the Middle East if these hostage are hostages are not released by inauguration day.
And if it comes down to that and ending radical Islamic terrorism and helping Israel and uh in their war against radical Islamists and and getting to the head of the snake Iran, I'll I'll be fine with that outcome too.
Because Joe Biden's weakness not enforcing the sanctions caused all this to begin with.
Anyway, we continue with Caroline Glick.
I have one more question.
I agree with everything that you're saying, and and and and this is a very tough decision to make.
Uh I would imagine, just like Democrats, they will revert to form.
They're not going to give up their radicalism, and then you're gonna have then you will finish the job, and they won't have any leverage at that point in terms of holding these hostages over, you know, uh as leverage over Israel and any military moves that they might make.
And Israel, by the way, has done a great job of rescuing many of them, and the a lot of those stories have not even been told.
Uh, but Caroline Glick, we have to run.
We do appreciate you.
Our prayers are with the people of Israel, and let's hope the right the right solution comes into uh our site and this can be put to an end and radicalism and radical Islamic terrorism ends once and for all and is defeated because it it's not going to go away on its own.
Can I just make one last point?
Uh, Sean, just real quick.
I think hello?
Go ahead.
Why, you know, one of the reasons why there's so much support in Israel for something that on the face of it is a bad deal is because of the leadership of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
This Prime Minister has shown an unrelenting determination to win this war in a way that is just awe-inspiring.
And so if he says that we have to do this deal, people are willing to take it on his word because he has shown that metal, uh, and he's been Churchillian in his leadership of the country.
Um, but you know, he he's been really doing it on his own against uh wishes oftentimes of the Biden administration, which is why I think people are really looking for a clear statement now from our friends who are taking office on Monday.
Uh I he showed it in his first term.
I don't I believe he will be unwavering like he was the first time, the second time.
That's my prediction.
Uh uh anyway, we do appreciate your time.
Caroline Glick, thank you.
Uh senior contributing editor, host of the Caroline Glick Show.
All right, let's get to our busy phones, 800, 941 Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Eric in Pennsylvania.
Eric, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
What's going on, sir?
How are you?
How are you doing, sir?
Uh, been a long time listener.
My first time heard you when you were filling in for Rush Limbog when he was having his cancer treatment, and I was listening to your show.
Uh, the truck driver, I you know, radio shit it gets a little modernist, so I'll listen to the politics and stuff.
So I kind of fell in love with your show.
And I've been today on thank you for all your hard work that you guys do.
I know it's uh not just you, it's your whole team that does it off.
But my question to you, I'm also a volunteer firefighter.
Why can't we bring tankers out to Florida or California and bring where the war is at and to the fire?
Tanger Burger J. Like you can bring fifty tankers out there, and I guarantee you could not go that fire before you know, before you stay too bad.
Well, I mean, what what we learned today about the fire is it just it it just frankly Makes me angrier and angrier and angrier.
Now, I know that Gavin Newsom ordered the California flags be raised to full staff for Trump's inauguration.
Okay.
Well, put one in the column.
But that's not what we learned today.
You know, now we are learning that a lot of the trucks, there were only five out of 40 trucks, which is unimaginable to me that were actually deployed uh prior, you know, as as the Palace Pacific Palisades fire was erupting.
In other words, the uh Pacific Palisades fire department, you know, they didn't send their their full fleet of trucks in there.
They only sent five out of forty available fire engines holding back a thousand firefighters, according to a damning new report that came out.
And just like hydrants not working and a reservoir being empty, and then learning that the brush wasn't cleared because of uh a plant that they felt they needed to protect and radical environmentalism.
There's there's just zero absolutely zero excuse for anything.
And that and it shows up in a in a poll that came out, and Californians, you know, forty-seven percent of Californians think that Gavin Newsom is a great deal responsible or somewhat responsible for the damage left by the flames.
Thirty-eight percent think Newsom is not at all responsible.
And this is a very liberal state that like Avan Newsom.
And Los Angeles wire fires now spark an initial round of lawsuits against utilities, and and this this is this is going to be a mess probably for a decade, to be very honest.
For a long period of time.
It's just and all of it was preventable.
It breaks my heart to see all these people are losing their livelihood, you know.
I mean, devastating them that's not on the fire.
Maybe they lose some a life out of that whole deal.
You know, uh it's chaos out there.
It's I don't know.
I think somebody should go to jail for that.
That's just my opinion.
But again, Mr. Heine, thank you for all you do for your American people.
You're the beacon of hope.
I think Russia will keep giving you kudos for that because you're the one that keeps giving us the hope that we meet we missed the great Rush Lumpah.
There's no doubt about it.
I said at the time, I I'll say it again today.
There's no replacing Rush Lombaugh, and you know, but I know what he would want.
He would want all of us to step up.
He'd want all of us to do our part, and I think he'd be very proud of this country for getting back on track.
That that much I know about Rush Limbaugh.
We learned a lot about Rush when he was sick, and I knew the inside story.
I didn't talk about it, but I mean, he would half kill himself with cancer treatment, and we found out what Rush Limbaugh's bucket list was, and his bucket list was as soon as he was barely well enough, and some days he really wasn't well enough to get back on the air.
That that's what his bucket list was to do what he was doing every day because he loved it so much, and I kind of identify with that because I feel blessed and I love what I do every day.
And he loved this country.
He believed in this country, believed in the goodness of the people of this country, and he preached that and articulated that better than anybody that I've ever heard.
And I think he'd be proud of the opportunity we now have.
I think it's an opportunity that maybe you see it once every hundred years, and that is to really see a transformational country.
Anyway, you're a trucker and a firefighter, you're a two-time hero.
Uh, we're glad you're out there, Eric.
Thank you so much for listening and uh staying with us.
We appreciate it.
Um let's get to our busy phones again.
Uh let's say hi to Ronnie's in Seattle.
Ron, how are you?
Glad you called.
Oh, you hi, Sean.
You sir are an American beat.
And I have three questions today.
Yes, sir.
All right, let's go one at a time.
Question number one.
Go.
Uh okay, Peter Bellot.
Uh D that's gonna happen now that Trump's in.
I would like to see states and and frankly, I I I would hope that we could do it federally, have standards for elections that bring integrity into the process.
Voter ID, signature verification, chain of of controls for the mail in ballots that might come from the military, the sick, the elderly, whoever would be eligible.
I'd like election day to be a national holiday.
I'd like same-day election, uh same day voting.
I don't think anybody should be voting weeks and weeks uh ahead of election day.
A lot can happen.
Look at the Hunter Biden laptop just a few weeks before the 2020 election.
Uh I would like to see, you know, signature verification.
I think I mentioned that.
Uh I would like to see, you know, updated voter rolls and partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote counting all night, and you count the vote, should declare a winner, and that's the end of that.
I think that would bring integrity to the system and confidence in the results.
Yes, I believe we should adopt all of that.
Every state should adopt all of that.
Okay, is there any your ideas on term limits?
You know, I've always said about term limits the same thing, and it's a bad idea whose time is probably come.
You know, I I I can see already in Congress, you know, and I understand people have their principles.
Remember, ninety percent of these Congressmen and women, they they're in very safe districts.
These Congressmen and women, you know, they don't have to worry about re-election.
So they all have their own agenda.
You know, if you live in a farm state, you want to help farmers.
If you live in an energy state, you want to help in the energy sector.
Um I mean, uh I'm not faulting them for that, but the real priority right now has to be to get the country on track.
Right now, the agenda should be control the borders, support these the terrorists, cartel members, gang members, murderers, rapists.
The priorities need energy dominance, so we have the money to do all the things that need to be done, uh eliminating the gap of vulnerability, preparing for the next generation of warfare, uh, bringing back law and order and safety and security to every small town and big city, and establishing America's place in the world as the leader of the free world.
And if we just if we stick to that agenda and we cut government spending, waste fraud and abuse by two trillion dollars as proposed by Doge, I think that that would be transformational.
I really do.
And I don't think it needs to be any more complicated than that.
And there are other things we need to do, prop up Social Security and Medicare, and we got to fix, you know, Obamacare is still a mess.
We we can definitely do better with telemedicine and health care savings accounts and health care cooperatives and things like that.
So there's there's a lot of work ahead of us.
And and there's gonna be times we deputize all of you in this audience will need you to call your elected representatives and put pressure on them.
You know, Donald Trump set the agenda, and that's the agenda that Republicans need to follow.
Um I have something I'm I'll probably announce tonight on TV to help get them off to a good start, or at least attempt to, and uh uh, but I'll be spending extra time in Washington next week.
Let's put it that way.
I appreciate you being with us, my friend.
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