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That's what I'm asking.
No, I have no contemplation of pardoning myself right there.
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Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the United States, and with it comes an entirely different cabinet, philosophy, ideology.
Um it's interesting to watch all of these confirmation hearings.
I think one of the more interesting ones today, Scott uh Bescent is as Treasury Secretary.
I mean, he just schooled Democrats on the economy.
It was that was pretty entertaining to watch.
Uh, I thought Pam Bondy had a particularly great performance.
She didn't take crap from anybody.
And what really comes out of this is that all that they have done by abusing the Department of Justice and weaponizing it and politicizing our intelligence community and and politicizing the FBI.
Uh, it is amazing to watch people that sat by idly and silently all these years and allowed this all to unfold and to happen.
Their great fear is that what they did to Donald Trump and the people around him would be done to them.
I mean, that's that's what all of this comes down to.
I mean, for Pam Bondi to remind the congenital liar conspiracy theorist Adam Schiff uh that he was the one that had a censure by by Congress.
Uh, it was pretty amazing.
And and pointing out that 72% of Americans have lost faith in the Department of Justice, and robberies in his state are 87% higher than the national average.
And that I found that particularly entertaining.
Blumenthal implied that Bondi was lying.
This is a guy that lied about serving in Vietnam.
That became pretty entertaining as well.
Senator Herano uh during the hearing, you know, uh, as nominee slamming, you know, Pam Bondi slammed uh the senator during the hearing for refusing a courtesy call, which I thought went that went pretty viral, actually, by the end of the day.
And, you know, she is being very, very clear as a steady.
I mean, she was the attorney general of Florida for two terms.
She was elected by one of the widest margins ever.
And this is before Florida was as red as it is now.
And she vowed that there will never be an enemies list.
And she throws down, you know, with a lot of these people.
She flipped the script on Senator White House on the, you know, suggesting that she will weaponize the Department of Justice.
And you mean you mean like with Donald Trump?
Anyway, um, now we are officially on preemptive pardon watch.
The names that keep getting circulated.
Jim Biden's name, Joe's brother.
Uh, we keep hearing about Liz Cheney, we keep hearing about Benny Thompson, we keep hearing about Anthony Fauci.
Uh, I would not be surprised if all of these people end up getting a preemptive pardon.
Uh, we'll talk to Congressman Jim Jordan in a second, but here's Joe Biden saying that he's not going to pardon himself.
And also, remember, Biden and Karine Jean-Pierre said repeatedly they'd never pardon Hunter Biden, and of course they did.
Listen.
And also, sir, on pardons, have you ruled out a pardon for yourself or any other additional members of the family?
For myself?
Yes, sir.
Well, why did I pardon myself for?
That's what I'm asking.
No, I have no contemplation of pardoning myself for didn't do anything wrong.
Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is?
Yes.
And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?
Yes.
You have.
Does the president uh have any intention of pardoning him?
We've been asked that question multiple times.
Our answer stands, which is no.
Is there any possibility that the president would end up pardoning his son?
Yeah.
Well, is there I just said no?
And uh I am satisfied that I'm not gonna do anything.
I said I said I abide by the jury decision, I will do that, and I will not pardon him.
I can speak for the president.
Uh and he said he would not pardon his son.
Uh and I'm just gonna leave it there.
Leave it there, and then of course he ends up pardoning his son.
He is the chairman of the very important House Judiciary Committee.
They've done phenomenal work exposing the weaponization of justice in America.
Jim Jordan is with us.
Um refresh my memory.
Didn't Joe Biden say that he never once talked to his son, his brother, or anybody about their foreign business deals?
And didn't he leverage a billion taxpayer dollars to get the prosecutor in Ukraine fired who was investigating his son and the big energy giant?
And isn't there a WhatsApp message with the energy giant in China called CEFC where Hunter claims he's sitting next to his father and that they'd be pretty much held to pay if they didn't pony up money and and wasn't money delivered within days after that exchange?
All that is all that is accurate.
Uh, not to mention the dinners, the other dinners he showed up to with the with folks from CEFC.
And of course, with Barisma, it was leveraging your tax money, Sean, your listeners' tax money, American tax dollars.
He used American tax dollars, held that up and said, unless you fire the guy who's putting the pressure on the company my son sits on the board of, where I got a call from my son a few days ago talking about this.
He's been unless you do that, you're not getting the money.
And Shazam, the guy got fired.
So, yeah, he definitely weighed in.
And uh and on Hunter's laptop, doesn't he refer to multiple occasions where monies that he was making with no apparent services or skill set for uh money from a Russian oligarch, money from Barisma, running money from CEFC, uh Kazakhstan, and etc.
Uh, doesn't Hunter implicate his own father saying half his income goes to Pops?
Didn't he have exhaustive exchanges with his accountant about which account they were going to take his money out of to pay for Pops home repairs?
And and and weren't there multiple images now that we have of Joe and Hunter with their foreign business partners.
Am I wrong on any of that?
Not wrong on any of that.
Um again, I always use the Barisman example because I think it's the most succinct one.
Hunter Biden gets put on the board.
Hunter Biden wasn't qualified to be on the board, he told us so himself.
The head of the company asked Hunter Biden, can you weigh in with your dad to relieve the pressure we are under from the prosecutor in Ukraine?
Hunter Biden calls his father, the big guy, and then a few days later, as I said, he leverages American tax dollars to get accomplished exactly what his son asked him to accomplish.
That capsule, and then there's all those other examples you described, which shows how this thing operates, which tells me that the pardons aren't probably gonna just end with Hunter Biden.
It's probably gonna go to his brother uh Jim Biden as well.
And then who knows what else he does relative to Benny Thompson, Dr. Falci, Liz, Cheney Adams Ship, all the other people who've been mentioned for this amazing new thing called preemptive pardons.
Okay, so my next question for you is if I did any of these things or Donald Trump did any of these things, what is the likelihood that that would be investigated as a possible crime?
Of course it would be because when you don't do things wrong, you did investigate it.
You and you get censored.
You've been censored by the left coming after you.
That that they've done that.
President Trump, what they've done to him for doing nothing wrong.
Maybe maybe go clear back to go back eight years ago.
They fight on his campaign, then it was Mueller, then it was impeachment, then it's the four indictments, two state, two federal, then it's uh raid on his home, then it's trying to use the fourteenth Amendment to keep him from running, and he beat all that because it was all based on politics, lawfare, ridiculous stuff, partisan stuff.
And that's why Pam Bomb Bondi can say we're not going to have any end in his list.
We're going to enforce the law, equal treatment under the law, follow the Constitution.
We're going to do that, and yet these guys are still scared, which should tell you something about what they were engaged in and why they're seeking preemptive part.
Okay.
So let's assume that that Joe Biden will pardon his brother.
Uh that means that both Hunter and his brother will no longer have the ability to plead the fifth.
Um do you believe an investigation into Joe and his conduct is warranted based on their foreign business dealings?
Well, we're we're we could we've got everything on the table.
And remember, we we just got David Weiss's report.
By the way, Sean, his report was like some devastating.
His report on the Hunter Biden situation and that whole investigation.
It was like some junior high book report that the that they where where you forget you got a report the next day and you start at a left.
It was twenty-seven pages.
Well, I mean, Roth Moore's report was three hundred pages.
You got Durham, her, all these other special counsels give you a real report.
This was twenty-seven pages for goodness sakes.
So we're gonna look at some of the things that went on there as well as Jack Smith.
We're gonna look at all that information um and and and dig into this because we think that's important.
Has there been a preservation order for Jack Smith for Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson?
Is that in place?
Well, there's a preservation order for uh all of the material Jack Smith, and I'm I'm actually it's I'm sitting at my desk right here where I'm I'm starting to go see Jack Smith's report.
Um, because we can the the ones public on on the January 6th activities, that part of his investigation, and of course the one with uh uh classified documents in Florida, that's that's being kept under seal, uh, because there's still a couple of defendants in that case.
But yeah, we're going we're going through that, and we've asked him to preserve all information.
Well, I think that's important.
I mean, how do we define weaponization?
Because it you know the one thing that became very, very clear in the questioning of Pam Bondy, and I'm sure the same questioning will go to Cash Patel and the hostility towards Pam Bondy, which I found inexcusable yesterday, but predictable.
Seems to focus on Democrats have a fear that that which happened to Donald Trump, his supporters, his friends, and his allies will happen to them.
Do you do you suspect that's where it's coming from?
Well, th that that I I guess that maybe they're they're you know what they think, but we're gonna follow the facts.
Pam Pam Bondi isn't we're gonna follow the facts in the law.
It's not about going after people, it's about equal justice under the law, equal administration of the law, following the Constitution.
That's what she's gonna do.
That's what Todd Blanch is gonna do, that's what Castell's gonna do.
They're gonna do it, they're they're gonna operate these agencies the way they're supposed to.
And here's what I think is so good about the people President Trump has nominated for these key positions.
They reflect the attitude the American people voted for on November 5th, when the American people said, we don't want people leading the government agencies where they're they're coming after us, the taxpayers.
They're supposed to work for us.
They're not supposed to be weaponized against us or against their political opponents, and that is the attitude President Trump that the American people voted for, and the attitude that is reflected in the people President Trump is nominating, whether it's Pete Heges, Pam Bondy, Cash Patel, Todd Blanche, you name it, up and down the line.
Good people who are gonna follow the law and follow the Constitution.
All right, quick break more with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan and your calls coming up as well.
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We continue.
All right, we continue now.
He is the head of the very powerful House Judiciary Committee.
Hume Jordan is with us.
What did you make of the farewell address last night and this this you know Jill Biden taking a parting shot at Nancy Pelosi?
We were friends for fifty years.
And a report out in the Wall Street Journal today, the Kamala Harris is upset that Biden keeps saying that he would have beaten Donald Trump.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, this is what happens when you're when you're the party that's uh got all kinds of crazy policies, and you you play the games that they did where they said, Oh, Joe Biden's totally capable of running the office when everyone could see that he wasn't, and then you make the switch like they did.
You're gonna get this kind of fighting, and frankly, I think it's because they got their tails kicked.
Seventy-seven million Americans said we want President Trump back in the White House.
They put Republicans in charge of the Senate, kept Republicans in charge of the House because they want to make America great again.
They want common sense policies, not the crazy stuff that the left pushes that is now on unfortunately dominates the uh the Democrat Party.
And you're starting to see it see a switch with some Democrats, Sean.
This is the encouraging thing.
The Lake and Riley Act, which passed this week in in the House.
We had 40 some Democrats, I think 48 Democrats vote for that bill.
Where we did we increase the number of Democrats.
We had a number of Democrats vote for peace legislation today that says if you're an illegal migrant and you do some you some domestic violence crime or some some hateful thing against uh uh uh women, you're you're gonna you're gonna be gone.
We had a number of democrats vote with us today on that bill.
So um I do think there's there's a movement in a in a common sense direction, even with some of the uh even with some of the Democrats.
Yeah, I tend to agree as well.
I think you're gonna have a very busy time, and uh I think this could be the most consequential and transformative period in American history.
Do you believe Republicans will stick together, especially in the House?
We have to.
We just have to.
We have to realize, and I said this two years ago when we started that Congress.
Any differences that exist in the Republican conference and the Republican Party, pale.
Pale in comparison to the differences between Republicans and the radical left, which now unfortunately controls the Democrat Party.
So let's remember that.
Let's stick together.
Let's do what we told the American people we were gonna do.
President Trump's committed to doing that.
We need to have that same attitude in the House and in the Senate, and if we do, we're gonna get good things done for this great country, the greatest nation ever.
No doubt about it.
Uh we're glad you're there.
Uh what percentage of the vote did you get in Ohio?
Uh, we got what, sixty-eight, sixty um sixty eight, sixty-nine, so if it's Yeah, you're you're you're beginning a slip, Congressman.
You may need my help next time.
If you'd have been running, you'd have hit seventy, but uh I I doubt it.
I don't think anyone can to I don't think anyone can top Jim Jordan.
Uh anyway, Congressman, we appreciate you more than you know.
Uh keep up the great work.
We'll be in touch a lot throughout the year.
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Uh but it's gonna take time for the Trump policies to work.
We got a new president, thank God.
And yet he's got a heavy lift ahead of him to get the economy back on track, and we see the stock market with all its volatility, credit card defaults soaring thanks to Joe and Kamala, global conflicts.
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Um, our buddy Stephen A. Smith is on Hannity tonight.
I'm not sure what to make of his comments about pathetic Joe Biden.
What's so funny to me is it was the typical Biden last night, mumbling, bumbling, stumbling, and just flat out lying.
And and then and talking about oligarchs.
Which I thought was a little bit of ironic considering it was his son Hunter that did business with like the former first lady of Moscow and oligarch and got three and a half million dollars and then millions more invested in some real estate venture.
And I I'm sitting here listening to this and I'm like, oligarchs.
Oh, you mean like the people that that Hunter does business with that you said you knew nothing about except pictures show that you were lying through your teeth.
I mean, are those the people you're talking about?
Anyway, so Stephen A. Smith had this observation about Biden's farewell speech last night that it made him sad.
Listen.
I was sad, guys.
I was sad.
Um, of course, the president is entitled, and he should give a farewell speech.
There is no question about that.
But different times invade us all.
And when you see the times that we live in, sometimes you see something and you just say silence or a simple goodbye would suffice.
And that's how I felt about the president tonight.
I have heard throughout my entire life, what a good and what a decent man he is, what a family-oriented individual that he is, some of the tragedies, the unspeakable tragedies that he has suffered, and our hearts go out to him.
And we recognize the fact that he was in the Senate for decades, um, and that he served this country to the best of his ability.
But inevitably, that old Janet Jackson song, What Have You Done for Me Lately, comes to comes to mind.
And when we see what transpired, what we've wit when we witnessed what has transpired over the last year plus, and you were supposed to step away.
You were supposed to be a transitional president, and you didn't do that.
And you decided that you wanted to stay in the race, and then you got exposed because you showed up on a debate stage June 27th, and you were not what people on the left have purported you to be.
There's a lot of people out there that didn't want to hear what he had to say months ago when he was president.
And unfortunately, maybe not me, maybe not you two, but unfortunately, there's not a lot of Americans that were interested in hearing what he had to say tonight.
And that's sad.
It's it's been sad from the get-go.
If you go back, and Steve and I and I will talk a little bit about this, okay.
He had personal tragedies.
Yeah, my heart goes out to anybody that goes through a personal tragedy.
But I I his if you ask yourself about his record, what has he done to help the American people have have a have a better economy to pay less.
Nothing.
What can he point to that he can say, I was successful in this area.
I I brought more safety and security at home and abroad.
Nothing.
The only reason the deal happened with Israel and the hostages is because Donald Trump was going to unleash hell at his command had they not made that deal.
And Joe Biden says, This is a joke.
It wasn't a joke.
Anyway, we'll get to that tonight.
Let's get to our busy phones.
Uh so many of you standing by.
Danny is in Maryland.
Danny, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
What's going on, Danny?
How are you?
It's nice to talk to you.
I ha I've been a long listener of your show.
Thank you.
Live on the Eastern Shore.
Great crabs.
But anyway, what they did to Pan Bonji and Peter Haget.
It's it's a shame what they're doing.
Well, it's what they tried to do.
Because I don't think they were successful against either one.
As a matter of fact, I think they failed miserably and in the end didn't lay a glove on either one of them.
That's my take.
No, they don't understand we American people voted for change.
They just doesn't get it.
They're never gonna get it.
They're never gonna do they're not gonna wake up in the morning and say, you know what?
Donald Trump's plan to secure the border and to deport, you know, illegal immigrants and criminals and rapists and murderers and terrorists and and and cartel members, they're not gonna wake up and say, you know what, drilling will make the country rich.
We're gonna support energy dominance.
They're not gonna wake up and say we need oil a strong military.
They're just never that they are who they are.
They want us to get stuff from our enemies who uh hate our guts.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, listen, they they don't they reject the idea of uh America having the preeminent role in the world as the leader of the free world.
They view it as a sort of imperialism, they view it as a sort of of dominance.
Uh unfortunately, what they're failing to recognize is that evil exists, and our enemies have been on the move because of the weakness of Joe Biden.
Biden and Iran would not be acting the way they've been acting, and they won't act that way with Donald Trump as president.
And the same with China, and the same with Russia.
Every the world order has already shifted, as evidenced by Hamas, all of a sudden now, willing to make a peace deal and release hostages.
It's not an accident.
And so, you know, why do they believe in this socialist utopia under the guise of environmental radicalism?
I don't know.
Anytime socialism has been tried, it has failed.
I wrote a whole chapter about it and live free or die.
But um, you know, we have a lot to look forward to.
With all that said, though, it's gonna be hard to keep Republicans in line.
They need to recognize that the agenda that the American people voted for was really the Trump agenda.
And that's why I'm hoping Republicans are going to stand strong together and and push through that agenda and get that job done and get a jump done expeditiously.
And we're gonna help them do it.
And if we have to put pressure on them, we'll give out phone numbers, and you can respectfully call elected officials and tell them what you want them to do.
They they are supposed to be your servant.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
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Lewis, Alabama, next on the Sean Hannity Show.
Where are you in Alabama Lewis?
I'm in Dohan.
Dote that Alabama know it well.
What's going on, sir?
Well, first of all, I want to thank you and people like Jim Jordan for opening people's eyes to what liberal progressiveness, what it actually is, socialist communist fascism has done to this country.
But it's our pleasure.
To my point.
Um, an angle I haven't heard anybody go towards as far as these blanket pardons.
Is it may there be a way to go after the Biden crime family, which is what they are, who have in some cases been treasonous.
Is there no way I know they can't go to jail for anything that's covered in this time, but even people that aren't found criminally sometimes they face fines, They face penalties, they face monetary damages.
If it's possible, go after the family's money.
The money they have gained criminally by doing things that morally they shouldn't have been doing.
And I don't even as far as going to jail, I don't even care about that.
What's done is done.
But go out it's it unfortunately the only way you could do it is is through a legal process or a civil process but you know there would have to be some legitimate claim that somebody was harmed and and that there'd be validity to it.
You know, I I know this is hard for people to understand here, although the preemptive pardon has never really been challenged in terms of the courts but my interpretation and and legal scholars that I have talked to, their interpretation seems to be in in sync with mine is that the power of the pardon is absolute.
And I I would not even begin to challenge whatever Joe Biden does in these final hours of his presidency in terms of preemptive pardons my response is let it stand as uh on let it stand wide open to the American people to make their own determination on it.
I wouldn't bother challenging it in the end Democrats you know at some point down the line probably I hope not anytime soon I hope not even in my lifetime but they're going to be back in power.
And if you think that this this unholy alliance between radical environmentalism and statism Marxism socialism is somehow died and and varied and gone away forever you're dreaming it will re-emerge in another form that people have not changed their minds and their hearts and and you know as we have been witnessing the last two days they have been gone right back.
They revert to form and they just you know they go they go on the attack and in this case there smears the slanders the personal attacks the I hate Trump you know vindictiveness is on full display.
So it's a it's a never ending battle for the hearts and minds of the American people.
You know we we've got to continue the process of educating people and informing people as to what w you know give me an example of any government program that's been successful.
No how are your government schools doing?
How's law and order in your small town or big city?
How good a job did they do control in the borders how's Obamacare working out for you why is social security and Medicare headed towards insolvency.
These are all government programs they're lofty promises and you always get disappointed they always underdeliver.
Yeah Reagan I hope that I hope that helps you.
Reagan said the best when the government comes and says they're here to help close the door.
Close the door and run away.
Lewis thank you very quickly same topic Brian North Dakota Brian we have about a minute it's all yours.
Go ahead sir just real quickly I uh as far as looking at uh from a voter's point of view I believe uh an incumbent president should not be allowed to um grant pardons after the election day I think the laws should be changed that if they're going to do a pardon it should be prior to the election then everybody will know how how to vote.
Right now we have no idea what the person's going to do until afterwards.
There's there's nothing in the Constitution that that references any such restriction.
That's the problem.
You would need a constitutional amendment to do it and I'm not sure we'd ever get there.
I'm not sure if I even want to get there.
I kind of like the idea of the power of the pardon being absolute I there's a way to transform the power of the pardon.
Uh-huh you know like there are innocent people in jail.
Alice Marie Johnson changed my thinking on this when she was released he was she had one drug charge a life sentence thought her life was over he never became bitter she started counseling young people in prison she spent nearly twenty five years there.
Donald Trump set her free and and that result and I think there are other people in prison that deserve second chances and I think there is disparate sentencing.
You know, why would somebody with crack cocaine versus powder cocaine get a different sentence?
They're still they're still dealing in cocaine or they're still charged with the the same drug, except you know, one might be a more potent form.
I do think there are good things you can do with the pardon.
What Joe's gonna do is protect his family, and Joe is going to protect those that they know were dishonest with the American people.
That is my prediction.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate you.
By the way, don't forget, tomorrow we're gonna take your calls.
Uh on tomorrow's show.
We're gonna be taking calls from people what you're excited about, what your expectations are for the Trump presidency.
Tomorrow it will be three days until inauguration day.
Anyway, we'll get to those calls tomorrow.
When we come back, Caroline Glick joins us, the latest on this deal with the hostages and much more straight ahead as we continue.
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