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| Hey, everyone. | |
| Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. | |
| I'm Sarah Carter filling in for Sean Hannity today, who is having a very well-deserved break. | |
| And coming up momentarily will be Devin Nunes. | |
| Yes, Devin Nunes, the former head of the House Intelligence Committee, who is now going to be appointed and will be serving as President Trump's Director of National Intelligence in his Office Advisory Board. | |
| So we're going to be talking to him about that. | |
| But first, I want to go to something really quick and then we're going to go right over to Devin Nunes. | |
| You know, Bill Ackman just posted on X a profound statement. | |
| It's just sitting with me and I want to read it to you because I think this is what we need. | |
| We need it now more than ever and we need President Trump and his team to actually find a way to implement this. | |
| But imagine if all bills were required to be footnoted with references to which congressmen added a provision to a bill. | |
| We could then see from whence the pork comes. | |
| They can't hide it anymore, folks. | |
| They want to hide it. | |
| That's why it's the pork. | |
| The way it has historically been done, there is no cost to being behind a particularly egregious piece of pork. | |
| They shove it in there and then they get away with it and nobody holds them accountable. | |
| With this change, he says, there would be a cost to even proposing government waste. | |
| Think about that. | |
| And I want you to think about this. | |
| And let me reference who Bill Ackman is for those of you who don't know. | |
| Bill Ackman is the CEO of Pershing Square Capital Management, which he founded in 2003. | |
| And the guy is phenomenal. | |
| If you're not following him on X, you should be. | |
| But I want to equate something to you. | |
| You know, when we talk, when we hear trillions of dollars, we're always thinking, what does that mean? | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Trillions. | |
| We just, it's like a number. | |
| We don't really think about it. | |
| It doesn't mean a lot to us. | |
| Sounds big, but I'm happy if I got $1,000. | |
| I'm just like a regular everyday American. | |
| A trillion just seems like it would never come to come to fruition. | |
| Listen to this. | |
| Equating trillions into seconds. | |
| This will help you understand it. | |
| 1 million seconds equals 11 and a half days. | |
| 1 billion seconds, right, equals 31 and 3 fourths years. | |
| 1 trillion seconds equals over 37,000 years. | |
| And 4 trillion seconds where 4 trillion were expected to be in debt. | |
| 4 trillion equals 126,840 years. | |
| Think about that insanity. | |
| That is where our government, our crazy government is taking us. | |
| And by the way, that isn't money they just picked off of a tree. | |
| That's your money. | |
| That's your hard-earned dollars, folks. | |
| That's your money. | |
| That's the money they use to send to Ukraine. | |
| That's the money they use to build biolabs. | |
| That's the money they use to payola their friends or lobbyists. | |
| We're not going to have any more of that. | |
| There was an awakening, a kind of a golden age in America now. | |
| We're so lucky to be living in this historic moment where we have people actually fighting back and saying, no more, no more. | |
| We're not going to do this anymore. | |
| Let's bring one of those people on right now. | |
| That's Devin Nunes. | |
| He is my good friend and somebody who I have so much respect for, a true patriot to this nation, somebody who has fought the good fight and was right along President Trump's side way back in 2016, even before when people were going after the president, Devin. | |
| I remember you were one of the few that said, we're not going to put up with this. | |
| We're going to investigate. | |
| And you stood by his side the whole time. | |
| How are you, my friend? | |
| So, Sarah, great to be on the Sean Hannity show with you. | |
| I know. | |
| So different, isn't it, huh? | |
| Not on my podcast. | |
| I got to bring you back on for that, too. | |
| Well, I should say this, that you, John Solomon, were also one of the few of the few non-fake news, I should say. | |
| And, you know, you'll recall this from 2017 at the beginning of the Russia hoax. | |
| I said, look, if I have any evidence of Donald Trump or anyone else that's playing footsies with Putin or doing deals with Putin, I'll be the first one to stand up and say that Republicans or whoever are guilty of it. | |
| But the fact of the matter at the time, I had never seen any intelligence. | |
| There was no intelligence. | |
| And after we did our whole investigation, it ended up being who that was working with Putin? | |
| It was the Clinton campaign and the DNC. | |
| It was absolutely the Clinton campaign and the DNC. | |
| And not only were they dealing with Russian sources, which we found out much later, which we suspected all along was in the Christopher Steele dossier. | |
| For all of you out there that don't remember, this was, it was your office. | |
| It was your intelligence committee, Kash Patel leading the way and others behind the scenes with very strenuous investigations, Devin. | |
| And of course, John Solomon and I working on these stories day in and day out that exposed this, that exposed the Steele dossier and the foreign spy that they had hired through Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, to put this together. | |
| And who was Christopher Steele's source? | |
| None other than a Russian, right? | |
| Then they went and hired Russians who, you know, most likely Putin probably knew about. | |
| It was just a circular fake news conspiracy where they wanted to smear Trump and Republicans, the DNC and the Clintons. | |
| They all knew that this was the plan. | |
| We now know that the CIA knew under John Brennan that, you know, all of them knew that this was happening in 2016. | |
| The smear failed because it looked ridiculous. | |
| Like nobody thought that, you know, some the apprentice star and a guy who'd been around forever building buildings all over all over the world, that he would be like secretly doing side deals with Putin. | |
| It was ridiculous. | |
| So the electorate in 2016 didn't buy it. | |
| That's right. | |
| They did not buy it. | |
| But it never stopped. | |
| I remember, Devin, from the very beginning up until this day, I mean, it was a non-stop barrage, weaponizing the bureaucracy against President Trump, taking out everything against anybody that supported him. | |
| People were dragged through the mud. | |
| They were dragged through the courts. | |
| It's really been hell on a lot of Trump supporters. | |
| It really has been hell. | |
| Wait, I think we got some breaking news right here. | |
| President Trump just posted. | |
| I was going to ask you earlier. | |
| It's just been a news day, Devin. | |
| Success in Washington. | |
| Speaker Mike Johnson and the House have come to a very good deal for the American people. | |
| The newly agreed to American Relief Act of 2024 will keep the government open, fund our great farmers and others, and provide relief for those severely impacted by the devastating hurricanes. | |
| How do you feel about that? | |
| I mean, right now, this is, I mean, this is vital to America. | |
| He's saying on the first agenda. | |
| But once again, we have, you know, a package coming through right before Christmas where nobody had a chance to really look at the details. | |
| Well, I have to look at it. | |
| Is it on Truth Social? | |
| It must have just happened. | |
| It just happened on your Truth Social right now. | |
| You're the CEO. | |
| And it happened just as you are on the air with me right now. | |
| Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. | |
| That's great news. | |
| Yeah, putting the president in a bad spot with the debt filling was the incoming president after three months in office that they'd have to deal with. | |
| It was just, in my mind, inexcusable. | |
| So I'm glad that that's the case. | |
| And I would say that if I was listening to your monologue before I came on, the real solution to the appropriations and authorizing of the government, over time, what's happened is, and this is, and I don't want to be in the weeds, but I did propose something like this, Sarah, for your audience. | |
| There's authorizing committee and appropriating committees. | |
| And what happens is, and over time, is over probably the last hundred years, the authorizing committees became less and less relevant. | |
| It made it easy to pass the buck because something got authorized five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. | |
| And then you had members of Congress who are doing a good job on those authorizing committees, but never really to get anything authorized again because it got kicked over to what's called the Appropriations Committee. | |
| What I actually came within 10 votes in the Republican caucus back in, ironically, right at the beginning of the Russia hoax, we almost had this pass in 2017. | |
| And that was to merge the authorizing and appropriations committees, spread, like basically reshuffled the deck and put members on these committees where it has both powers. | |
| 100%, 100%. | |
| But why not do what Bill Ackman says? | |
| Why not require those footnotes, you know? | |
| Well, no, this is better because then it's accomplishing the same thing. | |
| What he's trying to get at is what I'm saying. | |
| If every year, every bill has to be authorized and appropriated, you accomplish that because every bill has a hearing. | |
| Every bill goes through a markup. | |
| So you know who the author of the bill is. | |
| And it's every single year. | |
| What's happened is, is a program gets authorized 10 years ago, 20 years ago. | |
| And then fast forward, then all of a sudden the Appropriations Committee is putting in what people are talking about here as earmarks, pork, and talking about. | |
| And there's, oh, how was this put into here? | |
| Oh, it was authorized under the Defense Act of 1974. | |
| And everybody, what the hell is that? | |
| Well, yeah, exactly. | |
| It frustrates the American people. | |
| It enrages us because this is our tax dollars. | |
| This is what our nation is facing, a severe crisis of debt. | |
| And I know you're going to be looking at so many issues because right now, I've always said I think you were probably one of the best and still are members of Congress. | |
| What you were able to do with the House Intelligence Committee in exposing the Russia hoax was historic and I think will live in the history books. | |
| And now President Trump on Saturday announced that he's going to be selecting you to serve on the President's Intelligence Advisory Board. | |
| And I think that's very important because a lot of stuff that was in that bill, a lot of that stuff in that bill is very concerning. | |
| Is that things that you're going to be looking at as well as part of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board? | |
| I mean, some of these proposals made by our intelligence agencies and others. | |
| The way that I look at it is chairing this board, which has been around since the Eisenhower era, was put into effect by Eisenhower because of his concern that the Defense Department and others had nobody really looking over them, right? | |
| If Congress authorizes a program, funds a program, the president starts to implement it, he needed fresh eyes on it. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So it's been in existence for a long time. | |
| I think it's maybe not operated efficiently for several decades. | |
| Like the Office of Net Assessment. | |
| We could talk about that later, but at the Department of Defense, this has not been operating the same way as well. | |
| Yeah, and what the president wants to do is you bring somebody like me in that's been on the legislative branch side, I've run a lot of investigations, and we basically are there for the president to look over every program, especially where problems occur or where we see opportunities. | |
| Or where there's programs that aren't even necessarily so much on the books. | |
| I mean, you'll be able to assess those as well. | |
| Let me ask you this. | |
| How do you feel about everybody going after Kash Patel? | |
| I saw your column on Fox News. | |
| It was an incredible column in support of Kash Patel. | |
| Obviously, you work very closely with him. | |
| We understand how weaponized our bureaucracies have been. | |
| We saw it during the Russia hoax, particularly with the FBI. | |
| What are you seeing there? | |
| And where do you want to go with that? | |
| Well, as you recall, I recruited Kash Patel out of the Department of Justice, where he was a prosecutor, where we had worked with him in the past on prosecuting terrorists. | |
| He had been to our committee several times, and I was always impressed with him. | |
| And at the beginning of the Russia hoax, I thought, you know what? | |
| It seems like DOJ is up to no good here. | |
| I need somebody that knows what they're doing. | |
| So we added Kash Patel to our team. | |
| And, you know, he did such a good job that he got attacked and investigated by the DOJ and the FBI while he was working for us, which is an almost an unprecedented move where the DOJ and FBI put, I believe, almost all of my staff. | |
| But they, of course, the fake news media went after Cash because he was in the lead on a lot of this. | |
| And he was the one that was really calling DOJ and FBI out on their nonsense. | |
| Also, this has not got a lot of attention, but Senator Chuck Grassley, who also did a great job investigating the Russia hoax, his staff was also put under investigation by the DOJ and FBI. | |
| So the very people that were investigating the investigators, investigating DOJ and FBI, they turned around and investigated us. | |
| And so I think Cash knows from his history what they're capable of doing, the wrong that they've done over the last many, many years. | |
| And he's the right guy at a time when people need to have restored trust in the Department of Justice, in our FBI, that they're not going to be political. | |
| They're going to go after bad guys. | |
| And I think that's Cash's strong suit is he just has a long history of knowing what these guys do that's wrong. | |
| Hey, before I let you go, I got barely any time left here, but I want to ask you this. | |
| Will we ever hold those criminals accountable? | |
| I'm talking about the ones that, the 51 that signed the letter against the Hunter Biden laptop, those that illegally knew that the Russia hoax was a hoax and still pushed it out. | |
| Formally, I'm talking about John Brennan, Comey, Clapper, the whole gang. | |
| Will they ever be held accountable? | |
| Andy McCabe? | |
| Or is that? | |
| Well, they'll be accountable in history. | |
| Can we pull their clearances? | |
| Their security clearances? | |
| Can we do that? | |
| Well, that should be done for sure, right? | |
| Of those 51 who knew that that was a lie, they should have their security clearances pulled if they're even holding them anymore. | |
| But yeah, those are the types of things we can do now. | |
| As you well know, I mean, the Russia hoax occurred in 2016 and 17. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| You're the best, Devin. | |
| Thank you so much for being on the show. | |
| I'd love to have you back on again. | |
| Always, always, you are going to fill an important role for this country and for our nation. | |
| Thank you for being such a great patriot. | |
| And we'll be right back after this break with Tom Homan. | |
| Hey, everyone. | |
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| This is Sarah Carter filling in for Sean Hannity. | |
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| I will be back momentarily with Border Czar Tom Homan. | |
| And don't forget, we have Lou Elizondo on the show and a very special guest at the end of our show that is going to talk to us about stocks and Amazon and the Amazon strike. | |
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| Hey, everyone. | |
| Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. | |
| This is Sarah Carter filling in for the great Sean Hannity, who's taking a well-deserved time off. | |
| We have a very special guest coming up. | |
| He's a great friend of mine, somebody who I've spent so much time with working with on the border, focused on the issues that affect everyday Americans like you and I, whether it's fentanyl poisoning, the takeover of gangs like Trende Aragua in our communities, the illegal criminals running on our streets. | |
| President Trump has appointed Tom Homan to the position of Border Czar. | |
| There is nobody, and I promise you this, nobody better for this job than Tom Homan. | |
| You know, when it says God calls you for a time such as this, this is it. | |
| This is what God called Tom Homan to do. | |
| I want to play a clip right here. | |
| This is the man that I know. | |
| This is the man that I know. | |
| This is clip one. | |
| I want you to go ahead and play that, Ethan. | |
| Tom Homan talking about children dying and being raped at the border. | |
| Because of things I've seen in my career. | |
| So I grew up in Tyler 2,500. | |
| I fast forward. | |
| I'm standing back with Dr. Trey with 19 dead people at my feet that baked to death and back to Dr. Trailer, including a five-year-old little boy who suffocated death. | |
| And on top of him was his father who was trying to protect him. | |
| During that investigation, they said that old boy begged his father not to let him die because he didn't want to see his mom again. | |
| Here's a five-year-old boy who knew he was dying and asked his dad for help. | |
| No. | |
| And his dad, you know, his dad can't help him, right? | |
| No. | |
| I've talked to little girls as young as nine or raped multiple times by members of the cartel. | |
| Grown man crawled upon this little girl, took everything innocent and pure from her. | |
| Her life would never be the same. | |
| Look in her eyes. | |
| There wasn't life in her eyes. | |
| It's just full girls devastating for a lot of you. | |
| And this happens every day. | |
| I wrote an output of Fox News. | |
| I says, if Joe Biden wins the presidency, we lose the border. | |
| When you lose the border, trafficking of sex trafficking is going to skyrocket. | |
| Child deaths will skyrocket. | |
| Migrant deaths will skyrocket. | |
| American deaths will skyrocket from drugs from across that border. | |
| So when President Trump calls me up, says, you've been complaining about for four years. | |
| Do I can't fix it? | |
| How do you say no? | |
| How can you say no? | |
| You know, I have spent more than 20 years working on the border, covering stories on the border, breaking stories on the border. | |
| I've never met anyone in my life more resilient, more forthright, more honest, more patriotic than Tom Homan, our incoming Border Czar. | |
| Tom, thank you so much for being on the show today. | |
| Thank you for coming on board. | |
| I know how busy you are. | |
| Very true, Miss Sarah. | |
| Hey, you know, I played that clip. | |
| This is the man that I know. | |
| This is the man that Derek Maltz knows. | |
| You know, our Border 911 team, Victor Avila, Rodney Scott. | |
| You know, you have seen it day in and day out throughout your career. | |
| And you care about the American people, but you also care about the migrants that are coming across that border that are being trafficked into our country by the most heinous criminal organizations on earth, terrorist organizations. | |
| And they have destroyed children's lives and they have destroyed our lives, our lives in America. | |
| Tell us what President Trump has asked of you and what the first steps you're going to be taking in order to protect our nation against these criminal terrorist cartels. | |
| Okay, and you're right. | |
| I do care about the alien injury. | |
| I've seen a lot of tragedies. | |
| And the secure border saves lives. | |
| That's just a stone cold fact. | |
| Secure the border saves lives. | |
| People who want to risk their life and safety, put themselves in the hands of criminal cartels to be abused. | |
| So, yeah, we need to secure the border. | |
| Securing the border saves lives. | |
| President Trump has asked me to come back for the second time from retirement. | |
| When he was president in 2016, I actually retired. | |
| And the day I retired, I got a phone call that he wanted me to stay and run the agency. | |
| So I came out of retirement. | |
| I was retired for less than a weekend. | |
| Came back, took over control of ICE, and I retired again. | |
| And now he's asking me to come back out of retirement again. | |
| I didn't hesitate. | |
| Like I said with the recording, you can't say no to the president, especially when you know how to fix it, because we had to fix it. | |
| We had the most secure border in my lifetime under Trump's administration. | |
| Now we have record historic irrigum grays. | |
| So we've got historic alien deaths, got historic U.S. citizen deaths and fentanyl, got historic 600% increase in sex trafficking in women and children, got historic number of people on terrorist losses. | |
| So I didn't hesitate when he asked me to come back. | |
| You know, Tom, we have over 500,000 children, unaccompanied minors, that have been trafficked into our country. | |
| I don't even want to think of how many more children never made it across that border and were killed or taken before they even crossed into the border. | |
| And we've lost over 320,000 of those children. | |
| Will that be a top priority? | |
| And I know it will be, but that will be a top priority of this administration to locate those children. | |
| It absolutely is. | |
| That's the third rail. | |
| The president's targeting three rails of priorities. | |
| And first is no, one of the priorities is securing the border. | |
| We'll do that pretty quickly in a matter of couple months because we've done it before. | |
| We know what to do. | |
| We just got dressed off, dust off the plans we initiated first time, and except this time finished it across the southwest border and northern border. | |
| So securing the border is one priority. | |
| Another priority is running a massive deportation operation, which is necessary because you have a massive illegal alien crisis over the last four years. | |
| Millions of people have been released in the United States. | |
| Nine out of ten will get an order removal because they simply don't qualify for asylum. | |
| So we have to remove them. | |
| The third rail, third priority, and they're all equal priorities. | |
| There's three different priorities at the same time. | |
| It's trying to find the 340,000 missing kids, which is probably going to be the toughest part of all of them because adults, we have footprints, right? | |
| We own homes, we own cars, we pay bills, we got credit cards. | |
| We all have a digital footprint. | |
| Children don't. | |
| And they're going to be hard to find. | |
| So you've got to count on looking at the digital footprint of the sponsors. | |
| And you know, as well as I knew based on whistleblower's testimony, obviously sponsors weren't granted property. | |
| They weren't fingerprinted. | |
| A lot of the information wasn't taken from them. | |
| The information that was taken was inaccurate. | |
| So we're going to have a hard time finding these kids, but it's not going to prevent us from trying. | |
| We'll find some. | |
| We'll find some in forced labor. | |
| We'll find some in sex trafficking. | |
| And we'll find some that are no longer with us. | |
| And I'm sure not all of them are alive to this day. | |
| But we're going to do the best we can to find these young kids, but it's going to be a lot of work. | |
| It's absolutely criminal and unfathomable to me, Tom, that our government, our government participated in the trafficking of minor children into this country and that they released these children into the hands of some of the worst people that we can imagine. | |
| And we know that that happened because those whistleblowers, like Tara Rotas and others, have said, look, some of the places where we allowed children to go ended up being strip clubs, ended up being abandoned homes or abandoned businesses. | |
| So you're absolutely right. | |
| It's going to be a difficult job locating these children, but it's like a necessary job because just like you said, we're based on principle. | |
| We're a nation that believes in freedom and human rights. | |
| And without that, what are we? | |
| Well, we want to deputize every American citizen to help us with these children. | |
| It says, look, you're a mom, I'm a dad. | |
| Parents have this innate ability to recognize something that just wasn't right. | |
| So we're going to ask Americans to help us on this, too. | |
| You know, keep your eyes open. | |
| Look for something. | |
| See something, say something. | |
| You see something, just don't look right with a child, whether you see them in a workplace they're too young to be at, or you see a child with a family that just doesn't seem to click. | |
| A child just doesn't seem to be a part of that family. | |
| We're going to ask the American people to help us with this phone call. | |
| We're going to establish a 1-800 number. | |
| If you see something that's just not right with a child, if you think that child can be a victim of trafficking, we're going to give you a place to call. | |
| And look, and don't worry, let's say you're wrong. | |
| Say you're wrong, you're wrong, but let us check this out. | |
| If one call in a thousand saves a child, that's worth it. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| That's worth it. | |
| I want to talk about incarcerated criminals, illegal criminals, illegal aliens that are criminals on our streets. | |
| We've seen the great operation, by the way, against Trende Aragua. | |
| And I guess it's proven, you know, they're here. | |
| They're taking over. | |
| They're extorting people at apartment complexes in the United States. | |
| How is that? | |
| Is that going to be the very first major part of the operation? | |
| I mean, going after these criminal, illegal aliens and ensuring that we get them back out of our country and back to their homelands. | |
| Yeah, I mean, the deportation operation, the president has been very clear. | |
| I've been very clear that right out of the gate, we're going to concentrate on public safety threats, national security threats. | |
| And that includes these criminal gangs. | |
| And Trendwaita, they're on notice. | |
| I've said it a hundred times. | |
| I'll say it again. | |
| My gang is bigger than their gang, and we're going to take them out. | |
| We're going to take them out of business. | |
| We're going to take them off the streets. | |
| We're going to put them in detention. | |
| We're going to remove them from the country. | |
| If Venezuela don't want to take them, we have other places we can send them. | |
| You and I talked about that. | |
| You've done some great work helping with this. | |
| Well, they're leaving. | |
| And that will make these communities safer. | |
| MS-13, they're unnoticed. | |
| All these errant gangs are on notice. | |
| Alien criminals are unknowns. | |
| Number one, you're in the country illegally. | |
| Number two, you violated a crime against a United States citizen. | |
| You're a priority. | |
| So day one, we've got 24 federal officers across the nation that are going to be hitting the streets to look for these criminal, illegal errors. | |
| Those public safety threats, national security threats, also going to look for fugitives, those who've had great due process, great taxpayers' bench. | |
| You want to see a judge? | |
| Okay, you saw a judge. | |
| You want to make your claim to asylum? | |
| We'll let you make that claim. | |
| But at the end of that due process, when the judge orders you removed and you don't leave, we're going to find you and we'll make you leave. | |
| Union Secretary of My Yorkers have zero respect on every time he testified. | |
| He said, those who don't qualify for asylum will be immediately removed. | |
| He didn't do it, so we'll go for him. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| And you're right. | |
| Look, when we have Democrats in sanctuary cities that are standing up and opposing what is common sense to save lives, I mean, to me, that's just insanity, especially when we have people like the Minister of Justice, who I interviewed in El Salvador after visiting that prison in El Salvador, which was absolutely incredible, that maximum security prison that I was in. | |
| And Gustavo Villatoro said, hey, look, we're willing to work with the United States. | |
| We're willing to take our criminals back home. | |
| There are some talks that it might go beyond that. | |
| But when you have Dems opposing, and yet you have foreign governments saying, no, let us take our criminals back, it's kind of upside down on its head, don't you think? | |
| It is, but we're going to do it with, if they want to help, I certainly welcome to help. | |
| You think that any elected official would want public safety threats taken out of their community? | |
| That's their number one responsibility, is protection of their communities. | |
| But if they want to help us, just stand aside. | |
| They're a speed bump. | |
| You know, Governor Presker, you know, he says, well, you got to go through me. | |
| No problem, but we can do that. | |
| You're a speed bump. | |
| You're not going to stop us from doing this. | |
| What the sanctuary cities, if you don't let us in the jail, means I got to send a whole team to the community. | |
| We're going to find that guy. | |
| When we find the bad guy, the priority criminal, we're probably going to find others. | |
| Others that are illegally in the United States, but not a priority because they're not a criminal. | |
| Guess what? | |
| We're stacking them up too. | |
| So sanctuary cities are going to get exactly what they don't want. | |
| More agency in your community and more collateral rep because you forced them into the community, right? | |
| You should all be lighting the same as jail. | |
| So we're going to do it without them. | |
| It's going to make it a little more difficult without them, which we're going to do anyways. | |
| You're not going to stop us. | |
| Day one, the Trump administration will be hitting the streets in every major U.S. city in this nation. | |
| You know, when you talked about the young child that you had seen in the back of the truck that had died from suffocation and the extraordinary heat that was probably in the back of that, you know, 18-wheeler, I can't even imagine, maybe over 200 degrees in there when the people died. | |
| You know, and I think about all the Americans that have passed away too. | |
| I was on the phone, Tom, with a mother, Jacqueline Medina, whose daughter, Elizabeth Medina, was killed, killed by a man that should have been deported out of the United States. | |
| She was bludgeoned in her stomach. | |
| She was a high school student in Texas, and he went into the house, apparently to rob. | |
| God only knows what else happened in there, but she found her daughter in a bathtub, bludgeoned to death by a man that a judge should have had deported because he had overstayed his visa. | |
| He had been arrested multiple times before, and he gets out on a $2,000 bond only to end up killing this beautiful young girl who was like a high school cheerleader, the mom's love of her life. | |
| I mean, you hear these stories every single day. | |
| Do you think this is the most important issue coming in into January for the American people? | |
| Like, I mean, this is it, right? | |
| I mean, Americans are tired of this. | |
| We want change. | |
| How many young women have been raped and murdered by members of these gangs that came across? | |
| And, you know, everybody's complaining, oh, this is going to cost so much money. | |
| It's $86 billion. | |
| It's expensive. | |
| First of all, what price do you put on that life? | |
| And an example of sanctuary, and the reason New York City mayor sat down, we talked about, I gave him one example. | |
| If we had a better relationship with NYPD, when the man that killed Lake and Riley was arrested in New York City for injury to a child, if we would have had a relationship, not a sanctuary city relationship, he would have been turned over to us and he'd be in detention in Venezuela and the state went to Georgia and killed this young lady. | |
| And he had enlisted her and fight for her life for 17, 18 minutes. | |
| be alive today at New York City was a thanks for our city. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I've met hundreds, literally hundreds of angel moms and dads who were separated from their children because they buried their children because their children were murdered by someone that's not supposed to be here. | |
| That is why I'm passionate about this job. | |
| The tragedies I've seen on the border, the tractor trailer, 1930 people, talking a little gross youngest nine to one rig. | |
| You know, talking to angel moms and dads, reading these investments for the reports. | |
| Yeah, I've had it. | |
| Done. | |
| Finished. | |
| Don't want to happen no more. | |
| So we need to secure the border. | |
| We secure the border and we'll save a lot of lives. | |
| How do we hold the Dems accountable, though? | |
| What about those that are going to fight you on it? | |
| Or is there anything that the Trump administration can do to basically hold them accountable? | |
| Is there anything on a federal level that we could do? | |
| Look, I think we can take federal funding away, which is going to hurt them significantly. | |
| But I've been very clear the last two weeks. | |
| You cannot help. | |
| Fine. | |
| Shame on you. | |
| But there's been a few threats. | |
| If we put roadblocks up, police are going to be sitting on roadblocks in the cities. | |
| You can't do that. | |
| You're crossing a line. | |
| There are a couple of statutes I wish they'd read. | |
| One is the Title VIII, United States Code 1324 III. | |
| It says this. | |
| If you knowingly conceal or harbor an illegal alien lights, that is a felony. | |
| Hey, everybody, listen to that. | |
| That's it. | |
| I mean, this is the great Tom Holman. | |
| This is the Borders Are. | |
| He's telling you what you can do. | |
| We're all a part of this. | |
| We can all make that change. | |
| We'll be right back with Lou Elizondo. |