Dec. 3, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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| Sean, if you want to be a part of the program at the bottom of this half hour, we're gonna play uh I think a super montage cut of the media repeatedly saying, No, Joe Biden, he said he'd never pardon his son Hunter not one time, he's not gonna do it. | |
| He's not he's not like that Trump guy, and here he did it. | |
| And in spite of everybody saying otherwise. | |
| Pretty funny. | |
| Uh, let's listen to the Biden administration in their own words, saying over and over and over and over and over again, no pardon for Hunter. | |
| Listen, your son Hunter is on trial, and I know that you cannot speak about an ongoing uh federal prosecution. | |
| But let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? | |
| Yes. | |
| And have you ruled out a pardon for your son? | |
| Yes. | |
| Your husband, the president has said he wouldn't pardon your son, he wouldn't commute his sentence. | |
| That's correct. | |
| As a mother, though, you must want to see this burden lifted off your son. | |
| Do you think he could do that? | |
| Well, Joe and I both respect the judicial system, and that's the bottom line. | |
| This is going to say the time that the president would not pardon or communicate his taxes for his son, Hunter. | |
| I just want to make sure that that is not going to change over the next six months. | |
| The president's saying, it's still a no. | |
| It's still an always be a no. | |
| It's still a no, it will be a no. | |
| It it is a no, and I don't have anything else to add. | |
| Will he pardon his son? | |
| From a presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the president would end up pardoning his son? | |
| No. | |
| Well, is there a I just said no. | |
| You said before that the president would not pardon his sign. | |
| Is that still the case? | |
| Nothing has changed. | |
| That is still the case. | |
| So I've answered this question before. | |
| It was asked of me not too long ago, a couple of weeks ago, and I was very clear and I said no. | |
| To the question regarding the family, I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. | |
| He has overcome an addiction. | |
| He is he's one of the brightest, most decent men I know, and uh I am satisfied that I'm not gonna do anything. | |
| I said I said I bide by the jury decision, and I will do that, and I will not pardon him. | |
| And I will not pardon him. | |
| Now, interesting. | |
| Joe was asked by reporters after he pardoned Hunter. | |
| And here's how that went. | |
| Mr. President. | |
| Mr. President, let's change. | |
| Let's pardon. | |
| Mr. President, let's change. | |
| you Nothing has changed. | |
| Anyway, joining us now, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst and best-selling author, and David Schoen, civil rights attorney, former counsel for President Trump. | |
| Welcome both of you uh back to the program. | |
| Well, Mr. Jarrett, take a bow, and I believe, David, you made the same prediction uh that in fact he would pardon his son, and here we are. | |
| Well, you know, uh I think it was a couple of months ago you asked me on air whether Hunter would get pardon, and I said, and I I'm quoting myself here, you know, Biden repeatedly insists he won't do it, which means that he will do it. | |
| You know, I mean, he was always gonna pardon it, pardon his son. | |
| Uh and the decision was apparently made last June when Hunter was first convicted. | |
| NBC News is reporting, the White House decided to say publicly that he would not pardon his son, even though was quote unquote still on the table. | |
| In other words, Biden and his staff deliberately chose to lie to the American people. | |
| Why? | |
| Because disclosing the truth of what they intended to do would hurt Democrat chances of holding on to the presidency. | |
| And you know, understand what is so mendacious about this is that the pardon is not just wiping out the two convictions of Hunter Biden. | |
| No, Joe Biden granted a full pardon for any and all other potential crimes that Hunter committed over Trump. | |
| Wait for it, a ten year period. | |
| So that includes the other felonies like bribery, money laundering, foreign lobbying crimes, conspiracy. | |
| You know, the incoming DOJ could Have potentially brought those charges based on some pretty compelling evidence that Hunter was running this corrupt influence peddling scheme with Ukraine and China and Russia, Romania, Kazakhstan, and other foreign adversaries, and they banked in excess of twenty million dollars through shell companies and into the Biden family. | |
| Let's get your take, David Scho. | |
| The only thing I disagree with is what Greg said is that the deal is actually for eleven years. | |
| He has immunity for eleven years. | |
| Um not just ten. | |
| Um it's really extraordinary. | |
| That means, as Greg explained, I think, that if there are crimes that Hunter committed up until yesterday, uh federal crimes, he cannot be prosecuted for them, even if we don't know about them yet. | |
| I think you know what would be interesting is after you played those dozen clips, um, in which they promised there'd be no uh pardon. | |
| Part of the offensiveness of Joe Biden's announcement is the self-righteousness. | |
| This is a quote from him. | |
| For my entire career, I have followed a simple principle. | |
| Just tell the American people the truth. | |
| Nothing changed. | |
| Now he's decided that these were all an attack on him, a political attack. | |
| There's nothing political about charging the gun charges that he was that he faced. | |
| In fact, there was a memo from the Department of Justice around that time emphasizing the need to aggressively go after gun charges just like this, lying on applications. | |
| There's nothing political about charging someone for not paying 1.4 million dollars in taxes. | |
| I understand a father pardoning a son, but not a f so offensively like this to have lied about it and now to attack do it's uh it's as if someone wrote a press release for President Trump that over the past years claims he's been attacked politically and used criminal charges to attack him. | |
| This is what they've done to President Trump for the last eight years, frankly, from the Mother Commission. | |
| So it it's just it's really extraordinarily outrageous. | |
| And Greg, you take it a step further, and you say that he put himself first, but then you go on to say he went far beyond wiping out his son's criminal convictions in both Delaware and California. | |
| Explain that. | |
| Yeah, I mean, um you know, what he's really doing is protecting himself because uh there is substantial evidence that the president uh was complicit aiding and abetting his son's influence peddling schemes. | |
| So by foreclosing uh a uh f further investigation pursuant to additional charges, what the president is really doing is impeding any examination of his own lawlessness and criminality. | |
| Uh now it doesn't stop it completely, uh, but it sure throws a monkey wrench into the whole thing. | |
| And so I think what Joe Biden was really doing was helping himself the same way that his Department of Justice was protecting Hunter so that it would also protect the president simultaneously. | |
| Yeah, pretty amazing. | |
| Well, what does this mean in terms of how does this impact Joe Biden himself? | |
| I mean, uh I I guess what I found the most offensive in all of this is he went on to say that the charges in this c case only came about, you know, after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election. | |
| Then a carefully negotiated play plea deal, which by the way, it was his own lawyers after that plea deal was made that was confronted by a Delaware judge who asked the lawyers, have you ever seen a deal like this in your life before? | |
| And the answer was no, ma'am, we have not. | |
| I mean, think about that. | |
| He says after they negotiated a plea deal agreed to by the Department of Justice, that would be his Department of Justice, unraveled in a courtroom with a number of my political opponents in Congress taking credit for bringing political pressure on the process. | |
| Um had the plea deal held, it would have been a fair, reasonable resolution. | |
| But this is a guy that that sat quietly. | |
| His home wasn't rated, and he had top secret classified documents in four locations. | |
| Hillary Clinton's home wasn't rated, and she had top secret classified information and 33,000 subpoenaed emails that were deleted. | |
| You know, he never spoke out against visa abuse, David Schoen. | |
| He didn't say a thing about Pfizer Abuse. | |
| He didn't say a word about the the Hillary Clinton, you know, a dirty Russian disinformation dossier that was used as the basis for acquiring four Pfizer warrants to spy on Carter Page and Donald Trump. | |
| He didn't care at all. | |
| He didn't care about a false valuation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million when it's worth over a billion dollars, probably a billion and a half dollars. | |
| He didn't care about the unfairness of, you know, this novel legal theory in New York with a case, you know, about a a legal non-disclosure agreement that was put together by a lawyer labeled the legal expense, and and they build this up and they they stack one charge on top of another, you know, and get a guilty verdict in a in a venue that would never be friendly to Donald Trump. | |
| They didn't care about any he didn't care about any of this. | |
| So he doesn't care about justice. | |
| He only cares about his kid here. | |
| That's right. | |
| And let's not forget President Trump was impeached the first time around for demanding an investigation of their Ukraine dealings. | |
| Not a prosecution, an investigation. | |
| But you know, you're a hundred percent right. | |
| Um, but let's talk about for one second the downside of this deal, because there is one. | |
| When you give a broad uh pardon like this without specifying crimes, and it's eleven years blanket, any crime may have been committed, and so on. | |
| The downside is he's given broad immunity during that entire 11th uh 11 year period of time, which means as soon as January 20th or uh whenever, sometime soon, you should expect to see a subpoena from the House or the Senate um to Hunter Biden. | |
| He cannot take the fifth any more as to these things. | |
| He can be charged with perjury or contempt of Congress, and all of that. | |
| That's the very real downside of this kind of broad pardon. | |
| Now it's you know, they have a lot to investigate. | |
| You started this segment out by asking, what does this do to Joe Biden? | |
| Hunter Biden must be a witness as to his father's dealings and role uh in the Ukraine and elsewhere. | |
| Um remember it's the Democrats' theory that any former president can be impeached at any time, including George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. | |
| Um so let's see what happens. | |
| We continue now with our legal panel, Joe Biden pardoning Hunter, Greg Jarrett David Schoener with us. | |
| What do you think happens to Joe here? | |
| I'm I'm guessing that there might be more congressional investigation into this to get to the bottom of it. | |
| But at the end of the day, Greg Jarrett, I don't see Congress with the appetite, especially if if they want to aggressively pursue the agenda that Donald Trump is pursuing, which is very ambitious and would be transformative. | |
| I don't see that they're gonna have an appetite to go after an eighty-some odd-year-old man on this. | |
| Well, the pardon itself cements the fact in the minds of most Americans that you know Hunter Biden's a crook. | |
| And I think the investigation by the Oversight Committee and the impeachment joint committees have laid out Joe Biden's intimate involvement. | |
| And of course, the in a laptop itself was a treasure trope of incriminating evidence implicating Joe Biden, one email warned an associate, don't mention Joe being involved in then in the China pay-to-play deal, uh, which netted some five million dollars for the Biden family. | |
| You know, Hunter is threatening a Beijing businessman that his dad's sitting next to him and would exact revenge if the cash did not come through. | |
| And of course, within days, all of it came through. | |
| So I I think Americans uh are well aware that it's not just Hunter Biden's a crook, but Joe Biden is a crook. | |
| And I don't I think you're right, Sean, that they need to focus on uh fixing America that was broken by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. | |
| And I think uh any further inquiries should be done, you know, on the side, maybe a bit later. | |
| Um a lot of the statute of limitations would have already run on some of this stuff. | |
| Uh Americans know what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, the Biden family are all about. | |
| Uh I I, you know, frankly would counsel to to move on and fix what's broken in America. | |
| You know, and also we have the Supreme Court immunity decision, how much of this was done during his time as president or vice president. | |
| By the way, we do have a exclusive reaction tonight to all of this by Jim Jordan and James Comer, Nine Eastern on Fox. | |
| What do you think happens to Joe Biden in this? | |
| I think probably it goes away for him as well. | |
| David, we'll give you the last word. | |
| I think you're probably right. | |
| But remember, you know, we have new people coming in in the Justice Department. | |
| We have a brand new house coming in. | |
| And uh President Trump has said that, you know, there has to be some kind of accountability for what was done. | |
| I agree with you and with Greg that it is uh this is uh we need to do the work of repairing the country um at this time first and foremost. | |
| But I doubt anything happens really, but it there are avenues to do something if they're so inclined. | |
| I completely agree with both of you. | |
| Uh I got to tip my hat to the two of you because you guys have been all over this, and and Greg, your your columns really nailed it in your comments. | |
| I don't know when you first made them, but you made them a way before anybody else when you said there's no way he's not leaving office without pardoning his son. | |
| Uh kind of makes sense. | |
| Didn't surprise me either. | |
| You were on board. | |
| Uh well, usually I I follow smart people, so it makes me smarter. | |
| Uh anyway, thank you both. | |
| Greg Jarrett, David Schoen. | |
| You know, looking at the media, we've spoken a lot about legacy media, and I say as a result of their lying, their corruption, their being nothing but mouthpieces for you know, all things hate Trump, all things radical left extreme Democratic Party. | |
| They never vetted Kamala Harris, they never vetted Joe Biden. | |
| They never showed you videos of his cognitive decline, and I can go on and on and on. | |
| And as a result, after nine years from the moment Donald Trump came down that escalator to election day, they thought they had influence. | |
| The American people, whether you were listening to three broadcast channels, whether you read major newspapers like the New York Times and the Washington Post and the LA Times and USA Today and local newspapers, they were all the same. | |
| Three broadcast channels, you know, multiple liberal, extreme radical left cable news channels, and their influence meant nothing. | |
| Late night comedy show hosts that were politicized meant nothing. | |
| The American people ignored the lies, the propaganda, the misinformation, the distortion, the smear, the slander, the besmirchment, and they voted for Donald Trump anyway. | |
| Moving forward, and I've I'm I kind of feel blessed. | |
| I said this before at Thanksgiving. | |
| I feel blessed that I was kind of on the ground floor of what is described cumulatively as new media, and that is the explosion of talk radio. | |
| When I started in talk radio, there were only a couple of hundred, like two hundred and some odd talk radio stations or news talk radio stations in the country. | |
| Now this close, what, five thousand, four or five thousand? | |
| The biggest format in all of radio by far. | |
| You made that possible. | |
| I never thought we'd be on nearly seven hundred and fifty stations. | |
| We are. | |
| You made that possible. | |
| You know, I never thought when I went to Fox in 1996 that I would still be on the air my 29th year. | |
| You made that possible. | |
| And Americans now have those alternatives, including new alternatives like social media and alternatives like podcasters. | |
| People, you know, as Elon has been saying, we are becoming the media. | |
| And there's only one way, I think, to survive in this industry, and that is to tell the truth. | |
| And, you know, I go through my long list from Richard Jewell to UVA to Duke LaCrosse to Freddie Gray and in in Baltimore to Ferguson, Missouri, telling the truth about Obama when nobody else would, playing Kamala in her own words, playing Tim Walls in his home words, exposing Joe's cognitive decline. | |
| These are all things they got wrong and we got right. | |
| And I can go on and on. | |
| There are multiple examples that we have, getting Russia collusion right, getting the FISA abuse right, getting the deep state right. | |
| And I'm not saying I did it alone. | |
| We have a great ensemble cast of people that work with us. | |
| There are not many of us. | |
| There are others in this industry that do the same. | |
| And we try to be in the forefront of exposing this. | |
| We told you the truth about what Donald Trump, who he really is, and what he would do when I'd interview him, I'd actually let him talk. | |
| And so you could get to know him as a person. | |
| And he there was never an interview on TV that I did with this guy that went, you know, that that didn't go well over the hour. | |
| And I would just let him explain in his own words what his his vision is for the future of the country. | |
| He bravely withstood all the law fair, all the lies, all the attacks, and he put it all on the line because it was either the White House or the big house. | |
| Democrats would not have stopped. | |
| They would have put him on trial in DC. | |
| They would have fought to put him on trial in Florida. | |
| They would have sentenced him in New York. | |
| He'd have to pay fines, galore, and probably would spend the rest of his time in jail. | |
| Well, one other thing the media got wrong. | |
| This is a super cut montage of all of all montages. | |
| And that is oh Joe Biden, he's not like Trump. | |
| He'll never pardon Hunter. | |
| Oh no, he'll never pardon Hunter. | |
| Listen. | |
| Presidential promise to put the law before a family by the jury decision. | |
| I would do that and I will not pardon him. | |
| Letting the world know that he will not wipe away the decision of twelve of his son's peers was asked directly and he has said he wouldn't pardon um his son if he gets convicted. | |
| Let's wait and see what happens if he loses. | |
| Yeah but I mean but he said it he's gonna get pardoned by his dad there's no question about that. | |
| The president has ruled out pardoning his son major commitment from the president accepting the outcome of the trial and also pledging not to pardon his son. | |
| So the challenge for him is really to continue to live up to his values when it was really personal and he did that today. | |
| It seems like a pretty normal straightforward answer but it does it it it takes new weight when we see what Trump is saying about the outcome of his trial what we're hearing from other Republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdict here in New York. | |
| The contrast is profound to sit there and say well I'm not going to intervene in the legal process and I wouldn't pardon my son one side Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system. | |
| And on the other Republicans and Trump protecting Trump our current president of the United States has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son. | |
| I mean what you know again it's all about the contrast president Biden saying I will respect whatever this jury decides versus Donald Trump after he was convicted on 34 count saying the entire system is rigged against him. | |
| Their latest attack has been that Joe Biden has politicized and weaponized the DOJ right that was the whole argument around Donald Trump's conviction and this week of course Hunter Biden was found guilty and Joe Biden has very clearly said he would not pardon his son he would not commute his sentence how stark is this difference I mean how can Republicans keep making this argument now that that no now that Joe Biden has really put it out there. | |
| Where's Hunter and he stood there in a courtroom flanked by his family and he's accepted his sentence he is not pardoning um his son which he could do these are federal charges. | |
| He is not doing that he is not doing it because he is living what it means to have a rule of law in this country and then is it is in I mean if you want to know if he believes it you you could actually see what is happening with his own son. | |
| The President Anderson has been really clear uh that he is going to accept the outcome of the trial no matter what happens so Joe Biden's gotten asked about you know talking about law and order he's gotten asked if he would pardon his son he has said no on the other side you've got Donald Trump who has said that he will pardon the January 6th insurrection they're not even his sons they're just sons of bitches. | |
| Washington said I am not running again because he understood the self-restraint was absolutely essential to this country so you don't have a king. | |
| He did not pardon his son. | |
| He did not order the Department of Justice to to say don't prosecute my son so impressive could have uh ordered um the Justice Department to halt the prosecution of Hunter Biden according to this court. | |
| Everyone understands he's a decent man. | |
| I think Joe Biden has a chance here to stand up for the rule of law to say the rule the law is the law no matter who it is no matter if it's Trump or Biden and remember part of Trumpism's dangerousness is that it tears down institutions, important institutions of our democracy. | |
| So there is an opportunity here for Biden to say, you know, the jury found him guilty this is how it's supposed to work period paragraph end of story. | |
| Have you ruled out a pardon for your son? | |
| Yes. | |
| As I said last week I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal you know the president said he won't touch it. | |
| He's not he said he's not going to pardon his son and it seems that Mayor Garland let it go through. | |
| How can the Justice Department be weaponized against Trump when all of that is happening. | |
| But Democrats stand for the rule of law remember law and order. | |
| and we've been saying that Trump's not above the law. | |
| Hunter Biden's not above the law. | |
| No one is above the law. | |
| And it is amazing to see the stark contrast between how Democrats handled today and how Republicans handled this whole thing over the last couple of weeks. | |
| For years, these conservatives have been crowing about a politicized Justice Department, Biden politicizing it and so on. | |
| What happened today? | |
| The Justice Department convicted the president's own son, his only living son. | |
| You heard the president say he would accept the outcome of the case. | |
| I know no other word for that, but presidential. | |
| He even went so far as to say he wouldn't pardon his son. | |
| That's how much respect he has for the system. | |
| The president has said uh that he will not pardon his son. | |
| What did you think of that? | |
| I thought it was extraordinary. | |
| I mean, it was uh it was a moment of uh just moral clarity on the part of uh Joe Biden and couldn't have been in you know starker contrast to the way Donald Trump has handled his own uh conviction. | |
| He could still pardon him. | |
| He said he won't do that. | |
| All of that conduct, given that it's his son, is is kind of we should pause for a moment and think about how unbelievable that is. | |
| In a million years, if the shoe were on the other floor, and Donald Trump was facing uh the prospect of his son being prosecuted by a Biden me, if I had been held over, a Biden holdover or Obama holdover prosecutor, not in a million million years would that have happened. | |
| So, you know, some of the people on the right, the people who support Donald Trump are trying to cast this as some clever ops program. | |
| Yeah, Hunter Biden was found guilty by a jury of his peers, just like Donald Trump, because this is our justice system at work. | |
| The divide here is stunning, and it's uh a great reminder that one political party remains committed to the rule of law and the other doesn't. | |
| Joe Biden has already proven he's willing to stand up for the rule of law in a way that we could all never imagine Donald Trump to do. | |
| Pretty emphatic over the last few days that he does not plan to pardon or commute his son. | |
| What that really is him saying is I don't plan to use the powers of the office, the powers of the presidency to provide private relief for my family. | |
| In a sense, he's staking out a pretty bright line between being, as he says, a president and a dad. | |
| And that's not just an emotional expression. | |
| He's in effect saying, I don't think that I should. | |
| I don't have a right, even if it's legal and God knows it must be tempting to use this power in a way that is not available to so many other Americans facing similar kinds of struggles. | |
| There's a kind of old school sort of flinty core to his conception of how you are to be in the system, how you are to be as a person, a moral person, and ultimately how to contend with questions of power. | |
| One of the things that anybody who spends time around Joe Biden comes to know is that he's had this long-running focus on how much he is bothered by abuses of power. | |
| I gotta give credit to Grabian for putting this together. | |
| We played most of it. | |
| We didn't play all of it. | |
| I wish I had time to play all of it on TV too, so you could see it. | |
| But it just does it not expose Linda what I what I've been saying. | |
| Legacy media is dead, and the only way to survive in our industry is to tell the truth, which we try to do every day. | |
| We work pretty darn hard at it. | |
| Yeah, you know, Catherine Harridge was actually on X this weekend talking about comparing legacy media ratings to how many people are using and getting their news on X and other social media platforms. | |
| And I thought it was really interesting because obviously, you know, this is a woman who's been a TV legacy media journalist her whole life, and she's like, Yeah, I'm done, I'm out. | |
| I can't do it. | |
| Like it's just ridiculous. | |
| And they're and look at what she went through, and other friends of ours like Cheryl Atkinson is another one. | |
| You know, that's why people are turning to social media and the truth, because they know these guys lie. | |
| And you know, the interesting thing is they're all doing well. | |
| Look at John Solomon. | |
| Look how well he's doing. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Excellent point. | |
| Totally. | |
| You know, every everybody in this industry, they they're hyper competitive, and they think that their success is predicated on other people's failures. | |
| But I will say this the failure of legacy media has absolutely contributed in part to my success, because we get to do things and tell people news and information that they're not gonna get anywhere else. | |
| And we get it right because we work hard at getting it right. | |
| All right, that's gonna wrap things up with today. | |
| Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel exclusive reaction to the Hunter Pardon with Jim Jordan, James Comer, also get reaction from Greg uh Alan Dershowitz, Greg Jarrett Alan Dershowitz, and John Solomon. | |
| Uh also will check in with Senator Ted Cruz, Adam Carolla, and Linda, you'll love this. | |
| Bly Slalone and his wife Jennifer. | |
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