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We're now less than two weeks, I'm sorry, two months away from the inauguration of Donald J. Trump, and and we see a lot of movements that are quite disturbing as Joe Biden and Kamala Harris now exit.
For example, cabinet picks of Donald Trump uh is as per usual custom are usually given access to the departments of which they will be replacing people and and they they begin a process of getting them up to speed.
That is that is not happening.
Uh we see that there is a crazed level of appointments, knowing that Donald Trump is coming in with a plan to, you know, significantly dramatically return America to its original principles of limited government, greater freedom, and and cutting out waste fraud abuse and a bureaucratic nightmare that has built up over decades.
Uh we know on foreign policy, and this is this gets extremely dangerous on economic policy.
Biden is trying to, you know, throw out billions and billions of dollars in grants on his way out the door.
And maybe the most scary thing that he is doing after he had put nothing but handcuffs on Ukraine from day one, and he sat in denial when Putin was building up his troops along the Ukrainian border and then talked about, well, uh, what's your reaction going to be well it depends if it's a minor incursion and denied Poland from giving Ukraine 28 MIGs to fight that battle, which he had no business making that decision for Ukraine.
He has no business just handing over 200 plus billion dollars, another two hundred and fifty billion dollars last week alone, and he's doing all of this, and then all of a sudden, after putting handcuffs telling Ukraine what weapons they can and cannot use in this conflict with Russia,
even though it was clearly becoming a proxy con conflict of Joe Biden Kamala Harris versus Russia, and knowing that Donald Trump wants a peaceful negotiated settlement, well, last week he ratcheted up things by allowing Ukraine and giving Ukraine ballistic missiles to fire into Russia.
The results uh were that well, Russia changed their their nuclear policy that would allow them to use nuclear weapons in response to any ballistic missile attacks.
And you have U.S. officials, according to Zero Hedge officials discussing giving nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
In in the final, you know, fifty-five days, are you out of your mind?
This is insane.
And we know Donald Trump, even the New York Times said this.
He vowed to end this war, and there are going to be different peaceful options put on the table.
And Eric Prince made a comment on uh with on Maria's show on Sunday Futures for uh Sunday morning futures.
The U.S. has no means to shoot down uh Russia's Mach 9 hypersonic ballistic missiles.
We have a real gap of vulnerability that Ronald Reagan spoke of when he and he inherited the presidency from Jimmy Carter.
We had planes that couldn't fly, we had ships that that couldn't go out to sea, built up a six hundred ship Navy, and he rebuilt something called deterrence.
Donald Trump will have to fill this gap of vulnerability, you know, re-up our commitment to military preparedness.
We can't have China and Russia with hypersonic technology, and we not have any of it.
NATO and Ukraine are holding emergency talks as a result of this idiocy of Joe Biden, which resulted in a hypersonic missile attack on Ukraine by Vladimir Putin and Russia.
Now they're holding emergency NATO meetings about possibly having to deal with a broader European conflict.
North Korean troops now are in Russia.
They are expected to enter combat in Ukraine soon, according to the Pentagon.
And this just continues.
You know, this is Biden at the last minute with Zelensky.
You know, if they keep this up, they're going to start World War III before Donald Trump can even get in there.
And Donald Trump, you know, even though that we've never enforced the Logan Act, kind of has his, you know, handcuffs on in terms of his ability to address both sides.
Here's Lloyd Austin saying He expects to see thousands of North Korean troops stationed in Russia to engage in active combat.
Listen.
In terms of whether or not the North Koreans have been actively engaged in combat, while we've not seen uh significant reporting of that uh to date, uh I said a while a while ago, a couple of days ago, that there were some 10,000
uh or so North Korean soldiers in the Kursk region, and they were being integrated into the uh Russian uh formations and and based upon what they've been trained on and what they uh the way that they've been integrated into uh the Russian formations, I fully expect to see them uh engaged in uh in combat uh soon.
How scary is that?
Now, with the election of Donald Trump, oh, interesting that his bulla out of Lebanon now is having uh ceasefire talks with Israel.
You think that's an accident?
I don't think so.
It was one warning by a U.S. Senator, South Dakota Senator Michael Rounds, that Chinese agents now have access to every American citizen's phone calls and everyone's text, every one of us.
We know that both China and Russia on multiple occasions during this campaign hacked into the Trump campaign.
Uh how how how are we that far behind?
Anyway, here to examine exactly what's going on, how to deal with it.
Gordon Chang, author of the coming collapse of China, the Great U.S. China Tech War, and former U.S. uh trade representative.
Uh anyway, along with Rebecca Koffler is with us, uh strategic military intelligence analyst, author of Putin's playbook, and she served as a senior official in the Defense Intelligence Agency and worked with the CIA's National Clandestine as uh uh agency in service.
Welcome both of you.
Rebecca, let's talk about this last minute escalation of Joe Biden with Ukraine and and firing ballistic missiles into Russia, resulting in their changing the nuclear policy and firing off a hypersonic missile.
Yes, I completely agree with uh what Eric Sprince uh said.
We have massive, massive vulnerabilities.
Uh we are not going to be able to intercept and shoot down uh this missile.
It's extremely difficult.
And more importantly, and more dangerously, it is extremely difficult to characterize it, whether it's nuclear or non-nuclear, and that is because it is by design.
Arishnik, which is the name of this hypersonic uh missile, is an ICBM disguised as an IRBM.
ICBMs are intercontinental ballistic missiles that are designed to wage nuclear war.
The missile is just uh within the range in the lower limit of the ICBM range, but it's an intercontinental ballistic missile, but it walks talk smells and feels like an ICBM.
Why?
Because it's got the all the instrumentation, all the sensors, electronics, data acquisition capabilities and selling the missile, are that of a Rodesh, which is a nice CBM.
It's precisely why the Russians gave pre-notification to the United States because our systems couldn't properly characterize it, Putin didn't want us to overreact, knowing that President Biden is coming to be impaired,
and his finger remained on that nuclear uh button for the next sixty days, but Putin wanted to give a message that is very clear, and that is to stop the escalation and stop climbing that um escalation ladder that we are war games in the intelligence community that leads all the way to nuclear war, and we're on the brink of it.
We better be very careful.
This is a very scary time.
Uh, but it also does include what how China will react to the election of Donald Trump.
Uh what is your it or what are your sources saying, Gordon Chang?
We have seen China be uncharacteristically quiet this month, Sean.
It started just before the election and continued afterwards.
And I think that Beijing is reacting to the election.
It wants to give Trump a very wide birth.
It doesn't want to take him on.
And so therefore they have stopped the provocations in their peripheral waters and seas.
This is a very good sign.
It shows that the Chinese leadership is scared of Trump.
And it also means that although this may not last, I think that they are not going to engage in provocations during the first months or so of the Trump administration, which gives the new president a chance of re-establishing peace and stability.
We got to remember that on January 20, 2021, Trump left Biden a peaceful and stable world.
Biden through misguided policies ended up uh putting the world on fire, allowing the Chinese and the Russians to do that.
Trump can actually bring us back to that peace and stability.
All right, quick break, right back more with Gordon Chang and Rebecca Kaufler on the other side.
If you believe we continue our discussion about Joe Biden and his escalation of the conflict between Russia, Ukraine, all that our taxpayer money expense.
It was obvious too, I mean, by hacking into the Trump campaign, not the Kamala Harris campaign, both Iran and China, I interpret that again, my opinion, uh, that to mean that they would have preferred Kamala Harris win.
Usually a president, it is not uncommon for a president to be tested early on in their administration by our adversaries.
Uh, but he is Donald Trump is not an unknown entity to either Putin or President Chi.
So Rebecca, I've got to imagine, you know, as per your analysis that that Putin gave the U.S. a heads up uh about the hypersonic technology that in fact he he does not want he really doesn't want a nuclear conflict with Europe just before Donald Trump is getting in there.
Absolutely agree.
Putin does not want a nuclear conflict.
He doesn't even want a conventional conflict with the United States and NATO because conventionally uh we are superior to Russia.
However, at the same time, Putin cannot uh afford having Zelensky striking uh Russia deep inside its territory.
And therefore, this is exactly what he did with this Arieshnik.
He gave the signal.
Are you capable of targeting the entire Europe and the West Coast of America, and it takes only as little as 20 minutes for this uh missile to land in Britain and only twelve miss uh twelve minutes to land in um Poland.
So again, he fears Trump as well.
He fears America, and Trump is the only U.S. president that Putin fears because Putin knows that uh when Trump wasn't in the White House, he pursued the most robust anti-Russia uh policy by targeting the Russian warfighting strategies.
He authorized a number of uh items for our US military to have, uh specifically the nuclear tapped, uh sea launch cruise missile, Biden canceled, and so again, but the perilous situation that we are in and we're gonna continue to be in the next 60 days is still unfolding.
And Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said it uh the best.
He said that the conflict right now is entering decisive phase and taking on very dramatic dimensions.
It is why, as you said, Sean, NATO is now uh going to conduct an emergency meeting.
And like you said, we don't have certain capabilities such as hypersonics, uh, because the Pentagon was sitting there, you know, uh uh mishandling money.
I mean, imagine they they can't even pass a seventh audit, right?
What are these people doing?
Why can't they prepare for the wars about which we have so much information, but the Pentagon just or or the Democrats they never bothered to actually develop a deterrent strategy, and instead they decided, oh, let's just throw Ukrainians as human shields to protect the Europeans who refuse to pay for their own security.
We we don't even have a shield to defend against this hypersonic technology.
That that is a scary scenario.
I mean, we must uh with immediately accelerate our military preparedness and and get and catch up to and hopefully surpass their hypersonic technology.
The president spoke at length about uh having the biggest iron dome the world has ever seen.
I have no doubt he will move forward to accomplish that.
This this was always a conflict about about not wanting Ukraine in NATO and about disputed territories, all of which could have been negotiated had had we had a strong president.
Uh but the same thing now, I would assume the territorial ambitions of China are going to be put on hold for at least four years, I would imagine Gordon Chang, uh, but yet China, like Russia, has uh a a milit military advantage with hypersonic technology that we better deal with immediately.
Absolutely, Sean.
You have to remember that the United States was the first country um to be able to um fly something at hypersonic speeds.
Remember the X-15?
We're going all the way back to the nineteen sixties, and yet we didn't develop um hypersonic missiles.
Um we just sort of believed that the Chinese and Russians would follow our restraint.
Of course they didn't do that.
And now, as Rebecca points out, we're have this this vulnerability gap because we can't defend against them, and we don't have hypersonic missiles as they do.
So really what we got right now, um we're five years behind or so in the Chinese and the Russians, and it's gonna take a lot of effort to catch up.
This is also true for a lot of other military capabilities that the Chinese and the Russians have that we don't.
So we are at a period of maximum vulnerability thanks to Joe Biden.
I appreciate both of you and your expertise.
Gordon Chang, thank you, Rebecca Kaufler, thank you.
Uh 800-941 Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh it's very interesting between Liberal Joe and Mika, you know, begging to go and kiss the ring and and meet with Donald Trump.
Um, you see Elon Musk trolling out there, you know, saying, well, maybe he'll buy MSDNC.
And everybody in a full-fledged panic as they spin off uh MSDNC and a lot of other MBC properties and CMBC and their ratings have been in the tank, and it's just uh I mean they have earned this.
I mean, Joe Joe Rogan actually said it really, really well.
And that is it they just they don't tell the truth.
They they are hemorrhaging audience.
He said, You're not right, you're not accurate, and you're all delusional.
And it's all true.
The one thing that we take a lot of pride in on this program, and we've never gotten credit for it, is we were the ones, you know, at at the heart, three years unpeeling one one layer of an onion after another to bring you the truth about the Russia hoax.
You know, back in the day, nobody would vet Barack Obama.
We you know, we vetted Barack Obama when nobody else in the state-run media mob would.
We got to the bottom of FISA abuse.
You know, we had a we had a great team of people that that were all part of this.
Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter and John Solomon and Catherine Heridge, you know, everybody did their part, and we would bring this information to you, and we got everything right.
We we reported on lawfare weaponization, uh, you know, uh ha how great institutions like the FBI and the our intelligence community were politicized.
We got the Hunter Biden laptop story right, we got the story of Hunter Biden right, we got Barisper right.
You know, all of these stories that we never get, you know, nobody ever says, Oh, gee, Hannity was right.
But if we didn't tell you the truth, you wouldn't trust us and you shouldn't trust us.
So we work very hard.
If you go back to, you know, all the way in my career to Richard Jewell fitting the profile of the lone bomber.
Uh uh learned a lot from that story because I was the only one saying, Whoa, just because he lives with his mother doesn't mean he's a bomber.
Or the fact that we've got the Freddie Gray Baltimore story right, or Ferguson, Missouri right, hands up, don't shoot.
I had I had more people telling me that they were eyewitness after eyewitness after eyewitness that were gonna come forward and say that it didn't happen that way.
And we were right on that.
Or UVA or Duke Lacrosse.
How did I know about Duke Lacrosse?
I actually went to meet some of the families and had real discussions and knew they had their own exculpatory evidence, so I was able to to go against the the mob media and we get these stories right.
I said, you know, journalism is dead in two thousand and seven.
Now legacy media is dead.
And anybody that refuses to tell the truth, and if you're not accurate time after time after time and you're delusional, I am telling you what's going to happen.
Your future is over.
You know, senior MPR editor had to resign after accusing his own outlet of media bias.
Well, why do they get one penny from from taxpayers?
Why?
Marjorie Taylor Green is threatening to slash MPR's budget.
Why do we give them a p a penny if they can't make it in the free market like everybody else, then they have to move on.
You know, anyway, eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Let's get to our busy phones.
Uh all right, I'll do this for Linda's sakes.
Um not sure how to say this.
Thomas Cena, there you go.
I can read it now.
In Florida.
Hey Thomasena, how are you?
Oh, I'm doing great.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm glad you called.
Did you have your coffee this morning?
Oh, you talking like Linda?
I didn't have coffee.
I don't drink coffee, but welcome to Talk Radio, the Sean Hannity show.
Well, that's I have a bone to pick with you 'cause I sound like Linda and I'm from Philly.
Thomas Santa, let me tell you right now, we've spoken only for a short time.
You do not sound like Linda.
Well, uh no, trust me.
If I get you when you hear me next to my sister, we s we do not sound like Floridians, trust me.
Well, you might have a a New York accent.
I mean, especially when I'm tired, my old accent will come out a lot more.
Or if if Linda really pisses me off, then it'll come out a lot more.
Well, I have a bone to pick with you about your name.
You make fun of Linda, but you don't even say your first name properly.
Sean?
You mean Sean Hannity?
It's not Sean.
It's Sean.
It's it's not Sean, it's Sha no the uh homage.
No, it's sh it my name.
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
It's Sean Hannity.
Yeah, that's right.
Uh you're making fun of Linda and I'm making fun of you because you can't pronounce your name correct.
I think Thomas Cena has to vote for the call today.
Uh yeah, okay.
I think I'm allowed to call myself whatever I want.
But with all due respect, it is Sean Hannity, I promise you.
Homage.
Homage.
Hummage.
Like for example, you pay homage to somebody, and then Linda's out there saying, No, it's homage.
Hey, homage.
I do it correctly.
Oh my gosh.
Oh man, Thomas.
Thomas Cena, where are you from in Philly, girl?
Uh uh We're from in Philly, girl.
Here, girl.
All right, here we go.
I lived all over the South Philly, West Philly.
Um, I even lived up in North Philly.
Oh my god, that's so funny.
I'm from the old by the old Sears and Rock behind Fifth and Sullis.
Oh my gosh, I know.
Little Flower High School?
No, I didn't go to L I went to Girls High at Broad N. Oh my god.
Okay, the only the only thing I love about Philly are cheesesteaks.
Uh are we done with the reunion too?
I was just curious because her accent is a lot like mine.
It's we're Philly and New York.
No, you you have a combination New York and Philly, so it's doubly as bad.
No, she does not.
Well, hers is more Philly.
Mine is more New York.
That's the difference.
That's true.
I can either Thomas Cena.
Uh you're not the caller of the day.
You're you're at the bottom of my list.
Oh, you're just telling you.
We appreciate we appreciate you.
Yeah, we'll stay we'll go to Pennsylvania.
We'll check in with John.
John, how are you?
Glad you called.
Great, Sean.
Very thankful this week that we have a president coming in that actually loves the United States of America.
Amen.
We can't get there soon enough as far as I'm concerned.
Hey, Sean, uh I know that uh we all have problems with the press being corrupt, biased, etc.
But I think the worst thing is they never have to be accountable.
Look at the Russia Gate thing.
They never had to admit that they divided our country just to indulge themselves, and they were wrong.
So, you know, I my wife actually has the thing going with my kids, who of course are are liberal.
Uh so tragic, but she's um got some bets going with them about what Donald Trump is going to do.
And they are convinced that he's gonna put in an abortion ban.
They're advanced he's convinced that he's going to make gay men wrong illegal.
All that's wrong.
So there's not true.
Is it you know, I sh listen, when you're gonna be proven right, why don't you take the bet with her and make money?
No, these are what my kids might yeah.
Well what my kids are going to do is they have to wear a MAGA hat all around you know wherever they live for the weekend.
And I'm just picturing George Clooney walking around with a MAGA hat.
If he if he lost a couple of these bets or you know just just think about people in the New York Times and the the worst thing is Sean, the way they reported this stuff, they didn't say Trump it's reported Trump is considering something like a national abortion ban.
They said he is going to impose a national abortion ban.
And that just drives me crazy.
But understand they're just flat out lying.
Well you know when the vice president of the United States says that somebody's a fascist and they're their top most ardent supporters are out there calling people fascist, Nazi, racist, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and you know, and she herself is saying that he will implement a national abortion ban, which is false limit access to contraception, which is false or stop IVF treatment, which is false.
This is the vice president of the country just flat out lying for political benefit.
Now they've lied the entire time but here's the good news in spite of having nine years of nonstop, never ending legacy media attacks and lies and misinformation and propaganda and smear slander besmurgment, the American people ignored the noise and they made the right choice and does Donald Trump not have his faults no he's he's nobody's perfect.
You know the thing that I think makes him great that he is a fighter I think some people expect the switch to go off you know at different times that the guy that's going to fight China, fight to secure the borders, fight to fix the economy, make us energy dominant is the same guy that's going to fight with the media and fight with the the hard left and fight with his own party at on at different times.
That that is go that defines who he is.
Where most people, I will add this most people would have collapsed under the weight of what they have put this man through and even even a bullet within a millimeter of assassinating him.
And here he is all of the lawfare gone, weaponization gone.
And think about what he was facing in this election.
Either he wins the White House or he's probably going to the big house and I'd say the odds were probably 99.99% that they put they would have put him in jail.
Yeah.
And of course the fascists would be increasing government regulations not decreasing them.
But um real quick let me just say I think you could do great service for this country which you've already done if you were to bring RFK Jr. on your show not just for 10 minutes Sean but but for three hours I know it sounds crazy but No it doesn't sound crazy.
I would I will gladly do it.
I've had very very productive conversations I can say this with RFK Jr.
The more I talk to him the more I like him.
The more I realize that and say and by the way at times he said things that that that are not where he currently is that's pretty much anybody in the public eye.
And but when I talk to him about what he wants to do I was very much at ease in terms of like for example everyone says well he's going to he has this position on abortion.
It doesn't matter he's going to he's not the president.
He recognizes his role.
When people say he's going to take away vaccines I I asked him a million different ways about that issue.
And he said Sean let me really explain this to you.
No I'm going to give people information scientific not paid for by big pharma big pharma and I'm going to let people look at the information make the decision themselves about vaccinations for themselves and their kids.
It will be about choice.
I thought liberals were pro-choice on food he sits there with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump like likes Kentucky fried chicken McDonald's and pizza right I mean that picture of him on the plane was hilarious because he looked like he was like being held hostage and they put a McDonald's you know quarter pounder in front of him which I happen to love myself, but I don't eat that often.
And no, he's not going to ban McDonald's.
You know, he is he might push that McDonald's go back and instead of using seed oil that they might use a healthier oil and make recommendations that will be better.
We we've got to ask tough questions.
Why won't Europe import our food our food?
I'll tell you why, because of chemicals and hormones.
Why is it that men in Japan will live on average 10 years longer than you will live and I will live because of a lot of the food we eat and a lot of the chemicals, a lot of the hormones.
Can Americans benefit from learning about nutrition a little bit more?
Absolutely.
You know, I decided to, you know, make some changes to my health and well-being over the years, and I'm glad I've made those changes, but I can certainly learn more, and I'm willing to learn more.
It's it's crazy.
I know you got to go.
I'll leave you with this.
Please ask everybody to watch A Man for All Seasons, a 1966 best film.
It's a great example of law fair and what King Henry VIII and Cromwell did to uh Sir Thomas Moore.
It is a beautiful display of why America created a land ruled by law that shouldn't have law fare.
I'll just mention that.
I thank you.
You know, I know I know there are some of my friends that want retribution.
And my advice is no, let's let's return to constitutional order.
That's what we truly believe as conservatives.
That's what we have fought for.
And we have too little time to get done very big things that will be transformational.
And we've got to prioritize that.
Anyway, good call.
I do appreciate it.
John in Pennsylvania, thank you.
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