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Dave McCormick - November 5th, Hour 2
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So, Kamala Harris does, by the way, it's Election Day in America.
On a serious note, I have all the anecdotal information, data that I could give you.
I don't want to give it to you.
There's no point because it will contradict my main message today.
If you do not like the direction of this country, if you don't like open borders and free sex change operations, if illegal immigrants want them and amnesty, which will mean, you know, all the unvetted Harris-Biden illegals will be voting four years from now.
And I assume that when you give somebody something of such great worth that they might want to be loyal back to you, if you don't want mandatory gun buybacks, if you don't want to ban fracking and offshore drilling,
if you don't want defund, dismantle, Nobel, reimagine police laws, and you want law and order, if you don't want inflation to continue, if you don't want interest rates this high, if you don't want to pay $1.50 more a gallon every freaking time you fill up your gas tank,
and you want to save money and you don't want to settle for a townhouse as the Washington Post was suggesting, forget about the yard with the dog and the kids.
Oh, let's lower our aspirations to next to nothing.
Doesn't sound particularly inspiring to me.
And you like where you were based on where we were four years ago.
We were in such a better position than we are in today on every single measure.
You know, we know that Donald Trump will protect your Second Amendment rights.
We know he will close the border.
We know he believes in law and order.
We know he doesn't have a problem saying radical Islamic terrorism or illegal alien.
We know all of these things.
We know that he wants not only energy independence, which he got us to the first time he was president in 75 years, but he wants energy dominance.
You know, what it really comes down to is the biggest choice election in our lifetime.
And I am urging also all of you to please, if you're going to vote for Donald Trump, give him a team that will support his agenda.
Give him Republican senators.
Give him Republican congressmen and women that are also on the ballot this year.
You know, because Kamala Harris, in her own words, wants to the radical Green New Deal, elimination of private health insurance.
She sponsored both those bills, government health care for all with Bernie Sanders, was never asked about it, was never asked about why she supported the bail fund four days after Minneapolis police precinct was burned to the ground.
Never asked about the free sex change operations.
Never asked and pressed on why she said over and over again, ban fracking.
Never pressed on gun confiscation or mandatory gun buybacks.
Never pressed because we have a corrupt media.
And if you don't want, you know, this, the destruction of capitalism, which is the new Green Deal, I'm sure she would do it incrementally.
You know, we would no longer be the land to aspire to be great.
If you look at her tax plan, her stated plan, what, we're going to tax unrealized capital gains?
Okay, let's say it's worth $10 today, but when you sell it five years from now, it's only worth $5.
And for five years, you've paid taxes on the increase that you've never realized.
Do you get a refund?
Anyway, joining us now from the great state, from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick, who's done very, very well.
He's been now taking a slight lead.
What are we hearing about turnout in Pennsylvania today?
And where specifically, what are we hearing about Philadelphia in particular?
There was a great piece put out by Mark Halperin that pointed out that Democrats have a net loss of 600,000 votes from where they were this time heading into Election Day last year because Republicans voted early and Democrats did not meet the numbers that they needed to meet to equal what they did the last time.
What are you seeing in terms of voting turnout in more Republican areas, which is most of the state if you look at the map, and then these high-density population areas like Philadelphia?
Hey, Sean, good to be with you.
And listen, for your listeners, now's the time.
We've got to get you out there to vote.
And if you've got people in your family who haven't voted yet or are thinking about not voting, please get them to the polls.
You know, President Trump was here in Pittsburgh last night.
We had a great rally, huge energy.
And this morning we woke up.
It's a spectacularly beautiful day between 75 and 80 degrees.
I've been to four polling sites in Allegheny County and big lines in all of them early today.
All the places I've been to said they look like they have historic or near historic levels of voting.
And so I think in the rural areas, we've got great turnout, and that'll be mostly Republican.
Still a little unclear in Philadelphia, to be honest with you.
The mixed data that I'm hearing from there, I think the collar counties outside of Philadelphia, Bucks County, appears to have great turnout.
And listen, I think that the most important thing, Sean, is for people to just recognize, and you just went through the litany of the choice here, but in a nutshell, it's a choice between strength of President Trump, that guy you saw shaking his fist at Butler, versus weakness of Biden and Harris that have made the adversaries around the world test us.
It's a choice between common sense policies to get our economy on track, secure the border, become energy dominant, law and order in our cities versus this radical liberal agenda.
And it's the choice, and this particular relates to my race, between change and the status quo.
Bob Casey is a 30-year incumbent, and I think people are zeroed in on that.
And I'm optimistic we're going to have a good day here.
The mail-in ballot data is very encouraging because, as you say, there's a huge movement of Republicans getting a lot more mail-in ballots out.
Now, some of those will cannibalize existing voters, but many of those will be new.
And the Democrats having a huge gap and not getting near the mail-in ballots of the past, and that's been a source of strength for them.
So what that means is that just puts a much heavier burden on their turnout.
And my suspicion, but we'll have to see, is that there's an enthusiasm problem that I hear about, I see because I think Kamala Harris is more out of touch with Pennsylvania than Joe Biden was.
And these radical San Francisco policies of you just said, banning fracking, mandatory buybacks of guns, legalizing illegal immigration and so forth.
Those just aren't, those aren't flying in Pennsylvania.
Joe Biden was Scranton Joe.
He spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania.
People thought they knew him.
This San Francisco liberalism is not going to fly here.
I think that's what's happening, but we'll have to see.
I got to hope so.
And I'm telling everybody to assume that their vote will determine the outcome.
And then the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, that means voting for Dave McCormick for the U.S. Senate.
That means vote for your Republican congressman or woman.
That means vote for Donald Trump for president.
There is such importance on the state of Pennsylvania.
You know, it was amazing to watch Bob Casey run his last ad, tying himself to Donald Trump as closely as he has when he has virtually voted against Donald Trump the entire time he's been in the U.S. Senate and voted with Harris and Biden.
You just can't make it up.
But I think the people of the Commonwealth are more sophisticated than that.
Dave McCormick, we're pulling for you today.
Hang in there.
And hopefully, when do you think we get results in Pennsylvania?
You know, I think our team probably will have a pretty good sense of how things are playing out by midnight.
And my guess is nothing will get officially called until late into the wee hours, early tomorrow morning.
All right, Dave McCormick, U.S. Senate candidate in Pennsylvania.
Thank you, sir.
All right, man.
Good to talk to you, Sean.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Joining us now, former Congressman and Freedom Caucus co-founder Mark Meadows, who is from the great state of North Carolina, another important swing state.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well, Sean.
And I can tell you that all indications are that both North Carolina and Georgia will go for Donald Trump today.
So we're waiting for those results to get in between 7:30 and 8 o'clock in North Carolina.
They'll start rolling in and a little earlier than that in Georgia.
But it's looking very, very promising, very promising.
Explain promising.
I mean, there was such an early, you know, this has been such a different year than we've experienced in the past with Republicans voting early and Democrats not.
I'm arguing they have a math problem coming into today, and that is they didn't reach the numbers that they would need to match what they had in 2020, meaning that they need to do something they have never done before, and that is to turn out their vote today.
Do you see that happening in North Carolina?
North Carolina is always a pretty close state, 70,000, 80, 90,000.
Yeah, so I don't see it happening in North Carolina to answer.
But you're spot on with your analysis.
One of the things that we saw, and the reason why I'm optimistic, is the early voting is that Republicans did show up to early vote and actually exceeded the level that they saw in 2020, which was the highest that Republicans had ever done because of COVID and everything else.
But what we also see is the Democrats in North Carolina specifically, about 300,000 less Democrats showed up to early vote.
And so that's why you look at the early voting returns.
President Trump should come out very strong there.
I've been analyzing the early voting trends in Georgia as well.
Both of those should vote well, which means the Democrats actually have to win today.
Now, here, anybody that has tuned in, here's the concern that I have.
We have what we call early voting amnesia.
It means if you've voted early, you tend to forget the importance of Election Day.
If you're a conservative voter, you need to make sure that you've called your aunt, your cousins, your friends, your family, your loved ones, and make sure that they show up.
Because as long as Republicans show up today in North Carolina and in Georgia, they will win the day as they have typically shown strong support on Election Day.
Democrats will have to reverse the trend that we've never seen before, and they would have to show up in volumes.
And A show-up problem that you mentioned is that we're not seeing it in the big cities, Sean.
We're not seeing massive lines in any of the big cities in Georgia or in North Carolina.
It is steady and perhaps a little stronger response in Georgia than we're seeing in North Carolina.
But I think at the end of the day, President Trump is going to be very happy as long as the people in the great state of North Carolina, both in the West and the mountains that got savaged by 50% of them, their calls to FEMA were unreturned, over 50%, those people?
Well, those people, exactly.
And listen, they're tough people.
I had the privilege of representing them.
Congressman Chuck Edwards represents many or most of those.
But I can tell you, they're going to show up, but they need to do that there and in the eastern part of the state.
If that happens, then you're going to see them call North Carolina very early.
But we've got a few hours left.
And so if you're listening in, make sure that you don't leave a vote out there that just takes it for granted.
I think that is well said.
And let's go to Georgia a little bit because they were way behind.
Mark Halpert had a great analysis of it.
And he had the same analysis.
The only place we're seeing a big line in Pennsylvania in the Philly area is by Temple University, according to my sources.
But I'll check in with Jeff Bartos and Selena Zito at the bottom of this half hour.
But you don't see numbers that will make up for the shortfall the Democrats had in North Carolina or Georgia, specifically Georgia today?
Yeah, I don't see it in Georgia.
I mean, we're seeing there were lines in some of the bigger polling places in and around Atlanta early this morning, not so much during the day.
If you were going to see the kind of turnout that would actually be very troublesome for Donald Trump, you would be seeing lines around the buildings in both Fulton, DeKalb, Cobb, to a lesser extent, Clayton County's there in and around Georgia, Fayette County.
And we're just not seeing that.
We're seeing a steady, solid return, but with probably 75 to 80 percent of the votes already in and early voting in Georgia, I don't see them making up the difference.
And so I think the state of Georgia could be the earliest swing state that's called for Donald Trump just because of what we're seeing on the ground there today.
All right, we really appreciate it.
Mark Meadows, thanks for that informative update.
800-941 Sean, I did ask Donald Trump to call in today, and he goes, I'm tired.
I said, just call in for five minutes.
Just say hello, see how you're feeling.
And he agreed to do it.
People say, he's calling into Hannity.
No, I actually called him and said, would you mind doing five minutes?
I know our audience would love to hear from you.
I'm going to say it again.
Please assume if you're in the seven swing states that your vote will determine the outcome of the entire election.
Take it that seriously.
Have that degree of urgency.
All right.
We keep hearing about the importance of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
We keep hearing about the blue wall, Pennsylvania, and that would also be Michigan and Wisconsin.
And if, for example, Mark Meadows, who was on earlier, is correct, and Donald Trump is going to win North Carolina and going to win Georgia, please do not take that to the bank.
If you are in Georgia, assume the opposite.
Assume that it is dead even and your vote will be the determining vote in that state and maybe even the entire election.
Okay, but if that happens, if Donald Trump wins North Carolina, if he wins Georgia and he's up in the polls in Arizona, don't count on that in Arizona either.
I'm just making a creating a scenario.
That would mean that Kamala at that point would have to sweep this blue wall.
If Donald Trump wins one of those states, he will be the next president of the United States.
It's that simple.
And that's why I keep saying that I'm not giving out a lot of data.
I don't want to give out a lot of data because it contradicts my entire message of the day, which is assume your vote is the deciding vote in the entire election, especially if you live in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada.
And just to just, you need that level of urgency.
And you still have time to vote in all of those states.
First polls, I believe, closed at 6 o'clock this evening.
We'll have a list of that on Hannity.com.
Anyway, two people that I know that really do know the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Jeff Bartos, 2022 U.S. Senate candidate, 2018 Republican nominee for lieutenant governor, and Selena Zito, National Political Reporter for the Washington Examiner, discussed the all-important Commonwealth with us.
Guys, great to have you back.
Selena, let me start with you.
Heading into today, I shared with you, and Mark Halperin will join us later, Mark Halperin's analysis of how there was a net increase of 600,000 votes from where we were in 2020 for Republicans because Democrats' early voting declined that significantly and Republican early voting increased that significantly.
One other factor about the Commonwealth is some 700-plus thousand new Republicans are in the state since about, what, four years ago?
Am I correct on all that?
Yes.
Yes, that's absolutely.
You made me doubt myself for a minute.
Go ahead.
So I am of the mind as you are in you always want to encourage people to vote and you always act as though your team is down and sort of respect the sanctity of what people did.
You know, sort of people died to make sure you could vote in the Revolutionary War.
It's one of our most profound freedoms that we have.
I will say tonight when people are watching the returns to fix their eyes on Bucks County, this county has almost gone for Trump twice, has been a Democrat-majority county forever and a day, and now has approximately 5,000 more Republicans.
That is the model county that you want to see enthusiasm, turnout, Republicans showing up to vote, even Democrats showing up to vote for Republicans, because a lot of people don't sort of let go of their Democratic.
We'll call it bad habits, Selena.
I'll be a little more blunt.
Well, you know, part of it, though, is that in Pennsylvania, it's a closed primary.
A lot of these counties don't have a robust Republican candidate, so you have to vote in the Democratic primary, so you have to be registered as a Democrat.
That's a big reason why a lot of people don't switch their vote in our state.
You know, their voting habits have changed, but their localities have more Democrats running than Republicans.
Often some Republicans running as Democrats, so they know that's how they can win.
All right.
Jeff, let me ask, get your thoughts on the early voting that occurred in the Commonwealth.
Democrats, I would argue, had a math problem coming into today.
They have to do something that they have not done in previous elections and show up in what would be, in my view, my understanding, especially in the modern election era, turn out more Election Day, day of votes than they ever have.
Yeah.
And I can't get a straight answer, except for the area around Temple University in Philly.
I can't get an answer to a simple question, and that is, what does the turnout look like in the Philly area?
In other words, are the voters that did not show up for Kamala in early voting, are they showing up in massive numbers that would make up this deficit that they had coming into today?
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on.
And you're absolutely right.
I actually just stepped out of the campaign's war room, the Trump campaign in the Pennsylvania GOP's war room here in Philadelphia.
We've been here since 6.30 this morning, and we've been tracking this all over the state.
And so one of the reasons, huge credit to the Trump campaign and the GOP, both at the national level, Chairman Watley and Laura Trump and our own chairman here, Lawrence Tavis, they have really focused on getting the early vote for Republicans.
And it is why, and here's case number one, when Cambria County goes down like it did today with all those technical problems, banking your vote early makes those problems less important.
I also want to stress, I was in the room watching how we dealt with that problem.
And to all your listeners who are thinking there's a problem out there and what's going on, I just want to put everyone's mind at ease that we heard about the problem.
We sent our lawyers in.
The court ordered those polls to stay open another two hours, completely handled.
I was on a bus the last four days with Dr. Carson, who I know you know well, Sean, Byron Donalds, Kat Camack, a host of terrific Matt Whitaker, a host of terrific people.
And the message we delivered for the last four days at every bus stop was, if you're voting on election day, bring a lunch, bring an umbrella, bring a dinner, do not leave the line.
I had to just watch one of the worst parts of this day, Sean, is having to watch MSNBC and Nicole Wallace joshing around with Paul Rudd, that they're giving money to these students sitting outside of Temple and sending them money on Venmo to buy pizza for everybody in line.
That is all the Democrats are focusing on, which is why our message to our voters is stay in line.
President Trump took a bullet for us.
The least we can do for him is to stand in line until it matters.
I mean, for every minute, make sure that.
Well, let me interrupt you and ask this.
Besides the Temple line, which I did see, which was rather large and significant, but certainly not enough to overcome this massive deficit, what is the rest of Philly showing?
And what are the areas that are more Republican?
If you look at the state, if you look at a map of Pennsylvania, it's almost all red.
There's like three blue spots, and they just happen to be areas with high population centers.
And so the rural vote, what are we hearing about the voting in the other areas, not only besides Temple University, but in the red part of the state?
That's what I'm looking for an answer to.
Strong turnout in all of the areas that we want to see across the rural parts of the Commonwealth.
I grew up in Berks County, so strong, strong turnout across every area we want to see.
The one thing, and you hit on this, Selena hit on it.
We want to make sure nobody gets complacent.
Stay in line.
If you have a plan to vote and you're going to go after work today, stay in line, get out there, vote.
Let me emphasize this.
Every state, and we looked this up and correct me if I'm wrong.
If you are in line before the polls close, you will be allowed to vote, correct?
Yes.
And in Cambria County, and we've gone into court in Luzerne County where they had problems with the paper ballots today to have that extended as well.
But our lawyers are on it right away.
We have a website, pennsylvania.protectthevote.com.
We have a number also that people can call, but pennsylvania.protectthevote.com.
Our lawyers are immediately on it.
And we're running into court where we need to, getting resolutions.
Like I said, in Cambria, the polls are open until 10 p.m.
So if you're in line until 10, as long as you're in line by 10 p.m., you will be able to vote.
I'll put the information you're passing on on our website so we can have that.
Now, what about, so you are seeing a heavy turnout in spite of the heavy, the early Republican vote in Republican counties throughout the Commonwealth, you are seeing a large turnout.
All right.
Again, I'm going to go back in for a third time here, and I want both of you to weigh in on this.
Outside of Temple University, what's the rest of Philly look like?
What is the turnout there?
I haven't, I mean, I've been getting anecdotal data, Sean, all day from people who are driving around to polling places to just tell me what they see.
And it is, there's no groundswell of support that we're seeing around Philadelphia.
Nothing that sets off alarm bells or anything that is unexpected.
But that doesn't mean, again, between now and 8 p.m., we're not going to continue to see.
So every voter everywhere, if you have a plan to vote, vote.
But I don't have anything to tell you that it's like surprising to us or either positively or negatively.
I think it's ordinary course, but we still have a couple more hours.
President Trump has focused.
I mean, I was with Senator Vance last night in Bucks County to Selena's point.
Bucks County, I do believe that.
What an event last night was.
But okay, go ahead.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Let me bring Selena back in.
I've got to be fair to Selena.
She's like one of our best friends of all time.
Selena, how about you?
What are you hearing around the rest of the state, the red part of the state, versus what's going on in Philly where Democrats, based on early vote numbers and percentages, we believe have a lot of ground to make up?
Turnout has been robust, in particular in those counties that the margins matter.
So yes, even in Cambria County, where there was a little bit of a kerfuffle, the turnout has been steady and robust all day.
People that didn't get to vote, they went and picked them up and brought them back so they couldn't vote.
Even in small counties like Lawrence County and Meadville, but also Butler, Beaver, Westmoreland.
I live in Westmoreland County.
This is one of the historic Democrat counties that has gone really red in the past eight years.
And my precinct is at a church, one of those sort of mega churches with a mega parking lot that spills out and you have to get into it off a two-lane road.
And not only was the parking lot packed and you couldn't get in, there was a line along the highway to get in to park your car.
So turnout is in these more redder counties is robust.
And that is a good sign for the Trump campaign because these are the counties that offset whatever happens in Philadelphia and Allegheny County.
Well, let's talk about what's happening in Philadelphia and Allegheny County.
Putting aside Temple University, we know the Democrats have a robust turnout there.
What else do you see, Selena?
Oh, you went out on me.
I didn't hear what counties you asked.
I said, let's go back to the two counties, Allegheny and the two counties you mentioned, the blue counties in Pennsylvania.
And besides Temple University, what are you seeing outside of that area?
Are you seeing a robust Democratic turnout today?
And is it robust enough to make up for the deficit they started the day with?
It seems pretty normal.
My parents live in the city in a very, very blue area.
And they were the only two people at their precinct.
You know, University of Pittsburgh had a steady line, not Obama size.
And I'm curious about students because, you know, there have been a couple conservative rallies at the University of Pittsburgh that have just brought out a monster amount of young people.
So I don't know that we can gauge that in the traditional way that we used to gauge it.
Yeah.
I agree.
I agree with Selena.
I think another thing to look at, you know, tomorrow, the next day, is going to be Jewish students, how they voted, Jewish voters in Allegheny County, Philadelphia County, and the collar counties around both cities.
I think that's going to be something to look at.
This is going to be fascinating.
But the coalition that President Trump has put together, and all credit to him, Sean, the credit.
Well, then let me get to the important question only because of the constraints of time.
And you both are friends of mine, so I really appreciate your time.
And I know you guys have been busy all day.
And I guess the question I have for you is, how do you see this playing out?
I mean, Pennsylvania is so important in this election.
I think for Kamala, it's a must-win for her.
I could see Donald Trump with other paths if he wins North Carolina, Georgia, the Sunbelt states.
If he wins Arizona, if he wins Nevada, that would get him to 268.
But if he wins Wisconsin, he's there.
And Reince Prieves is pretty confident and bullish on winning Wisconsin tonight, although he's not sure.
Again, if you're in Wisconsin, don't take that to the bank because it's always a closed state and assume your vote will determine the outcome.
But what's your best guess?
Who do I want to put the pressure on first?
I think it's only fair to put it on Jeff.
I've been pretty consistent on this for about a month.
I think President Trump wins the state by two points.
I think Dave McCormick unseats our 18-year incumbent Bob Casey.
And I think Stacey Garrity, Dave Sunday, and Tim DeFore run the table statewide.
Everybody's got to vote, but I'm going to stick to that prediction.
If I'm wrong, Sean, and it's less than that, I'll wear a Dallas Cowboys jersey on your show someday as a penny.
My son will be very happy.
He likes the Cowboys.
Selena, I know you're a new grandma.
This is terrible that I'm asking you.
How's this going to end in the Commonwealth?
I wrote this this week.
This is how I felt about this for about a month.
I'd rather be him than her in this state.
It is always, she's not been a really good fit in this state because the working class have moved over to the Republican Party.
And the working class really drives the race here in Pennsylvania.
Two big problems for her.
Not picking Josh Shapiro.
I think we'd be having a very different conversation today.
And number two, a ban on fracking.
And she's not exactly been the friendliest to union workers either.
All right.
Appreciate it.
Thank you both.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Mark Halperin, Mark Penn, and President Trump all coming up.
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