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Oct. 14, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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McLaughlin and The Polls - October 14th, Hour 2
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The Kamala Files, the Walls files, uh by every objective measure, as I have laid out in the first hour of this program today, with 84 days since Kamala Harris hasn't done a formal press conference.
And you've got tensions rising between Harris and Biden.
Uh you got trouble being caused by Obama and Clinton on top of everything else.
You got Tim Walls making a fool of himself every time he opens his mouth.
Uh now Kamala Harris forced based on polling data and numbers.
They they've gotta be scared, which is the only reason.
I guess she's doing uh Charlemagne the God uh and then Brett Bear on Thursday, and it's gonna be very, very interesting to watch.
And but she's not doing this because she wants to, because they know that they are in trouble, and the polls and are are vetting this out, especially if you compare the numbers and we go back to 2016 and we go back to 2020, you can see that Donald Trump is outperforming where Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton were at this time dramatically.
I mean, the real clear politics average if you if you look at 2020, for example, you know, had you know Democrats up dramatically and nearly anywhere between seven and nine points, you know, varying on the day.
Joe Biden was up.
Same with Hillary Clinton.
And now it's a 1.7 race in the battlegrounds.
Donald Trump is a half a point lead, although these are very close races.
And then the question is, is there does Donald Trump underperform in these polls?
Uh now, what does that mean for all of you that care about you know the radicalism of Kamala Harris and and care about the fact that that this country would literally be be dragged down into this new Green Deal socialist hellhole with no private health insurance, wide open borders, amnesty, free sex change operations, etc., uh, and a foreign policy that is absolutely to me, it's chilling and and frightening.
Um, it means that you can't pay attention to any poll.
The only poll that's gonna matter is gonna be on election day.
And when we get the final results, be it that day, the next day, the day after, whenever it happens to be.
Uh, anyway, joining us now to give us some perspective on where we were, where we are at this moment in time, 22 days before election day, we have uh John and Jim McLaughlin, the founders of McLaughlin and Associates, uh, two of the top pollsters in the country.
Welcome back, both of you.
Thanks, Sean.
Great to be here.
You know, there's something to be said that Kamala now and her campaign feel that she needs to get out.
But every time she gets out, it seems to backfire.
Um obviously the poll the the polling is showing that her strategy of of just saying you know have a middle class background and not doing interviews is not working out well, but then when she does the interviews, then she has three days, four days of cleanup after every interview, John McLaughlin.
Yes.
And by the way, I'm not used to this right now because Jim and I can tell you, and sure, you remember, I'd be on your show.
We'd be on radio together.
We'd be on TV together.
And at this point in time, Hillary was up 48-41 on October 14th, eight years ago.
And Joe Biden was up 10 points, 52-42.
And now you're seeing uh signs from the Harris campaign that they're in a panic.
That Donald Trump is tied or ahead of them in the national polls, is tied or ahead of them in the battleground states polls.
And normally one thing the Trump campaign never does is release our internal polls, and President Trump had us do it last week, and we're ahead by a point in North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, a point.
So it's a really close race.
Georgia, we were up by five, fifty to forty-five, Arizona up three, forty-nine, forty-four, and Nevada fifty to forty seven.
It's almost like a liberal plot to get us in a full sense of security that we can win this.
I'm used to the saying, oh, they're trying to suppress our vote.
But here this is saying, you know, Ham Pamela Harris, the more people see her, that they don't want to vote for her.
I mean, when she was asked last week, a week ago today, is there anything you would have done differently than j you know than you've done the last four years with Joe Biden?
She said, not one thing.
She's it's like you you want four more years of failure, you vote for Harris.
You want to vote f you want to vote for change, you want things to get better, low inflation, secure border, uh and the ending the endless wars, uh you know, fighting crime, making making us safe again.
You gotta vote for Donald Trump.
And you not only have to vote for Donald Trump yourself, you have to bring friends and family to go vote for Donald Trump because it's now a turnout game where the Democrats are very skilled at this.
They you know, they'll they'll do ballot harvesting, they'll do all sorts of early in person voting.
We have to bring our family and friends to go vote for Donald Trump now, because the early voting is starting.
Let's get your overall view, Jim.
Oh, I don't think there's any question about it.
And and Sean, you and John hit it on the head.
When you look at the the real clear power politics, national average last time, uh at this point in time, Donald Trump was down by ten points.
He's he's up uh by about eight and a half points compared to where he was four years ago.
You look at the top battleground states, he's running five points uh ahead of where he is.
But uh and I'm gonna give you a number.
The media doesn't want any of us to talk about.
You know what it is?
Donald Trump's favorability is up eleven points from where he was four years ago.
Why?
Because the American people are doing the comparison.
They're doing the comparison on the issues that they care about most between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, whether it's inflation, whether it's the economy, whether it's the open borders, whether it's the rampant crime, they understand that they were doing significantly better than what uh where Kamala Harris and Joe Biden is.
And I'm gonna give you something else that's really, really interesting.
You know who the voters I think that are gonna save America?
Black voters and Hispanic voters.
In a lot of these battleground states, and the reason why Donald Trump is running so well in Arizona and Nevada is because he's winning among Hispanic voters.
He's not just getting a record percentage of Hispanic voters, he's winning.
And he's doubling his percentage among black voters compared to where he was last time.
And the reason why we're getting all these black and Hispanic votes in the Republican coalition is because they would know that they were doing better when Donald Trump was president.
You know, there's a lot of data that backs this up.
What what what what do you make of this phenomenon and why do you think that is?
Uh to me it's it's all the basic, you know, things that you would expect.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
You know, for Americans are the borders better off.
Are you more safe and secure?
Are your schools better?
Uh uh do you like paying what you're paying at the grocery store with with Harris Biden inflation?
Do you you like paying a dollar fifty, twenty five whatever it is, more per gallon of gasoline, John McLaughlin?
Uh I think it's the the fundamentals.
Do you think the world is a safer place based on their foreign policy?
You know, if those are the if that question is asked by every American, I don't think they think they're better off.
And I think the polls, you know, I I think this transcends all demographics.
Well, I think it's the gaslighting of big media and big tech.
Well, you're on uh nationwide on on a huge radio audience reaching out to uh tens of millions of people.
I I'm listening to WR in New York, and they're saying things that aren't true about Donald Trump.
They're saying that he's uh he's I mean, the news broadcast was talking about him doing a rally in in in Arizona yesterday, talking about using the military for some reason.
And then they say Donald Trump is talking about misinformation at the border.
So you've got things where people that listen to CNN and MSNBC and and and other media outlets or or you know, or getting By the way, you weren't listening to my buddy Mark Simone, I can tell you that.
It's the news broadcast in between you all.
And it's and it's so biased and anti-Trump that you know it's it's basically you're you're sitting there saying, What planet are they on?
I mean, I mean, Kamala Harris has done nothing to secure the border, and she has done nothing to grow the economy.
She's going to raise taxes, but as Steve Forbes, my good friend Steve Forbes says it's not a recession, it's a depression if she gets to do what she wants to do with taxes, where she'll raise taxes on 91% of all Americans by five trillion dollars.
You get that in the mainstream media.
And that's what people are fighting against, where now, you know, uh since Elon Musk took over X, you have a fair fight.
We're not being censored.
quick break more with our pollsters jim and john mclaughlin of the mclaughlin group All right, we continue with our posters.
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Let me play something for all of you here, because she's got all of these people out campaigning for her, and they're not helping.
There is a huge backlash.
I mean a massive backlash to Barack Obama.
Remember, he has an ocean front compound at Matha's Vineyard, and his comments about African American men and attack on his words, unacceptable brothers who are not backing Kamala and hinting it maybe about sexism, you know, and then Bill Clinton's comments about Lake and Riley would probably be alive, and then the stupid Doritos comment and video, you know, put out by Gretchen Whitmer.
You know, let me play at least Obama and Clinton and get your reaction to this.
We have not yet seen the same kind of energy and turnout in all quarters of our neighborhoods of now.
I also want to say that that seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.
You got a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you?
They made an ad about about a young woman who've been killed by an immigrant.
Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.
But if they all properly vetted, and that doesn't happen, and America is not having enough babies to keep our populations up.
So we need immigrants that have been vetted to do work.
There wouldn't be a problem.
And he couldn't keep people all torn up and upset.
They, both of them are killing her campaigns.
Sean, as usual, you hit the nail on the head.
And by the way, that's something I agree with Bill Clinton on.
If Lake and Riley's murderer had been properly vetted, we she'd still be alive today.
It's all a result of the failed open border policies of Kamala Harris.
And the other big mistake they're making here is you've got Barack Obama out there.
He's playing the race card.
I can tell you this.
I saw focus groups of the sexist card wasn't particularly good either.
The people on, at least I've seen on social media and what Sweet Baby James has shown me is those people are are absolutely angry that there's a suggestion that their views are are rooted somehow in not wanting a woman president.
Exactly.
They're playing the misogynist card and they're playing the race card.
And look, you one of the things that we saw, by the way, when Donald Trump won back in uh 2016, these aren't our numbers.
This is from a Pew research poll.
And the voters want to change.
One of the reasons why Donald Trump won back in 2016 was they want to change from uh Barack Obama's failed policies, where he received his worst job approval numbers on at the end of his presidency, and these were people that voted in the 2016 election.
It was on improving race relations.
Two-thirds of voters said race relations got worse when Barack Obama was president.
The American people hate this kind of stuff.
They always accuse uh Donald Trump of dividing America.
They're the ones that are actually dividing America, and they're trying to, for political reasons, they're trying to drive Americans away from not just Donald Trump.
I'm seeing it in other races.
They're playing the race card.
And it's wrong.
The American people are seeing through this.
And you know who's especially seeing through this?
Black voters and Hispanic voters are seeing through this stuff.
They hate it.
And I I gotta tell you this too.
Their open border policies are backfiring, especially with black voters.
Because black voters are looking at and they see what's happening in the inner cities.
They look at what's happening in places like Chicago, places like uh New York City, and they're why are they favoring people that have broken our laws when we need help in our communities, and we can't sustain these kinds of open border policies.
Crime's going up, they're taking our jobs away, it's driving down uh wages and whatnot, it's hurting our schools, and the voters are seeing right through it.
And that's why Donald Trump, and that's why the Republicans have momentum right now.
Last 30 seconds we give to John McLaughlin, your brother, because he's a lot smarter.
Uh John.
Well, by the way, the uh you just gotta remember uh Kamala Harris says it all today on Columbus Day when she said, quote, European explorers ushered in a wave of devastation, violence, stealing law land, and widespread disease, end quote.
So she's now she's now running down, basically uh anybody who's emigrated to the United States because of the from Europe because it's Columbus Day and she doesn't recognize that it's now it for her, it's it's unhappy Columbus Day.
So, you know, she's Oh, predictions real quick.
Who's gonna win?
John McLaughlin, real quick.
President Trump is gonna win, but it's close.
So everybody's gonna go go vote early, bring your friends and families.
All right, got it.
Jim, who's gonna win?
President Trump, but we've gotta run through the finish line.
These people are desperate.
These are the people that tried to put Donald Trump in jail.
These are the same people that tried to knock him off the ballot and uh battle.
I gotta run.
I hear you both.
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Uh Tim Walls is becoming a, you know, just like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama uh and Kamala herself, they're becoming now that they're their polls are forcing them, you know, to go out and talk, it is now forcing them to make mistake after mistake after mistake.
This pheasant hunt.
All right, we're gonna show that he's a real tough second amendment guy, or we're gonna talk football and we're gonna go pheasant hunting.
I don't know.
I've always been a second amendment guy, but mostly pistols over shotguns and rifles, and I do have friends that love to hunt, a ton of friends that love to hunt.
I'm just not one of them.
And whenever I get asked, I'd find some excuse not to do it.
I just it's not in I just I don't have the time and I don't really want to do it.
But if you want a shotgun, uh you'd think you'd know how to load your own shotgun.
That didn't go over well.
And that was on the heels of Tim Walls' disastrous interview, trying to answer a simple question about the electoral college wasn't a hard question from Michael Strahan on Good Morning America.
Listen.
Do you think that Biden's done everything right?
Well, look, I don't know if any of us do everything right, but I can tell you he's done everything in the best interest of the American public.
He's listened to what the public uh he's asked for answers, and I think, you know, and reevaluated afterwards.
Uh and I think if your values and the judgments you're making and the ethical decisions you're making, um, he's done that.
He said I think all of us know that Electoral College needs to go.
But the campaign came out later that night.
And they said that's not their stance.
Well, it's not the campaign's position.
And and the point I'm trying to make is that there's folks that feel every vote must count in every state.
So that's something that you and our president here disagree on.
Um I have spoken about it in the past, but she's been very clear on this, and the campaign and my position is the campaign's position.
And then Kamala Harris is not helping herself either.
You know, we've got Kamala Harris break break literally breaking into laughter when talking about what's at stake in the election.
I I don't think there's anything funny about the things we're talking about from you know allowing unvetted Harris Biden illegals into the country that end up murdering dozens of Americans and raping dozens of Americans and known terrorists are into the country and other known you know criminals and murderers that they have allowed into the country, even Bill Clinton hurt them with that comment.
And I'm not so sure what's what's so funny when we talk about what's at stake here, but she thinks it's funny.
So when we think about what's at stake in this election, whoa, it's packed with some stuff.
It's packed with some fundamental stuff.
I say rather articulately.
Another thing that has emerged as she goes out more often is the these varying accents of Kamala, kind of reminiscent of Hillary Clinton.
I don't feel a no-ways tired.
I mean, I'm not sure why Democrats often do this, but they get before different constituencies and their tone pitch cadence delivery changes and changes dramatically.
Listen to this.
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The courts are gonna handle that.
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Can I get a witness?
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Cheryl is in Colorado.
Cheryl, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks for checking in.
Hi, Sean.
So nice to talk to you.
Pleasure's all mine.
I'm glad you're out there.
And uh thank you for checking in.
What's 22 days, Cheryl?
Here we go.
I'm ready.
I'm just calling for some comments uh with the upcoming interview with Brett Bear.
I hope that Brett really presses her for some answers, and that it is not uh a softball interview because I thought he went a little soft on Hillary in 2016, and this is a chance for everyone to hear her answers on her past comments and her policies.
I would imagine that he's gonna be fair and tough.
Um he's done that to Donald Trump himself.
I don't remember the 2016 Hillary interview, to be honest at all.
Uh but uh I think Brett is is has got you know a full understanding of the issues in this campaign.
Uh I think that she's not been asked tough questions provides him, frankly, with an opportunity to get answers that I think we the voters deserve uh answers to.
Uh I've gone through my list of unanswered questions repeatedly.
I won't I won't echo them here.
And uh I'm looking I'm actually looking forward to the interview.
I have no idea how much time she's allowing.
Um I have no idea at all whatsoever.
Well, I'm looking forward to it too.
I hope he's reading your list, because it's a good one.
Uh I hope every I wish everybody in the media.
I wish Charlemagne the God would would read my list.
But anyway, uh Linda Linda's friend, you're friends with Charlamagne, right, Linda?
I don't think I would say I was friends with him.
We're friendly.
We see each other in the building.
He's a nice guy.
Yeah, that everybody that knows him that works in in the old building that I used to broadcast out of New York, uh said he was a great guy.
Uh Jim Kerr one showed me a studio.
I got kicked, I got a kick out of it because it's very unique and it's cool.
And um, but I only ran into I passed him once said hello, and uh I don't think he knew who I was, to be honest.
But you know, I wasn't dressed in my typical TV gear.
But um I I I hope he asked tough questions, and I think he I think he might.
I mean, what do you think?
You know him better than me.
He's got kids.
I think when you have kids, you know, he's been very strong on the Title IX issues.
He's been really outspoken on you know, some really interesting conversations he had Congressman Byron Donald on about a week ago and allowed him to be heard and to raise his facts and show his proof of what he was saying, which is more than I can say for most people who will call themselves independent.
I don't really know if he's independent or Republican, Democrat, but to me he just seems issue-based, which is more than I can say for a lot of people.
Anyway, it's a good opportunity for both of them, and uh I wish I had the opportunity to interview Kamala Harris.
I have a lot of questions.
I do.
Uh Michelle North Carolina next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Michelle, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Mr. Hannity.
An honor and a privilege privilege to speak with you.
Well, the honor's all mine.
Thank you for checking in.
Um, I just wanted to talk about Western North Carolina and an idea that I had.
Um, unlike your governor, our governor didn't have any like pre-planning or staging, which really frustrated me.
Because we North Carolina has so many um, you know, military bases.
I'm a former army combat veteran myself, and uh we didn't have anything planned here at all.
So it's really frustrating, and it also really actually makes me very sad for what's happened.
But um I had an idea on how folks in Western North Carolina can vote.
Um, and I don't even know if this is something practical.
I just know that you know a lot of people, since they don't have any transportation, I thought that somehow maybe um buses could be staged somewhere, and maybe people would be able to get to those buses and they could early vote too, which would be great.
I know David Axelrod thinks that only Asheville people are going to be able to vote.
I did not like that comment one bit.
I do know that there are a lot of efforts by a lot of different people, including Senators uh Ted Budd and Tom Tillis and others to make sure that the people that have been hardest hit by Hurricane Holeen in the roughest areas that got smashed,
frankly, and that were in many ways abandoned by Kamala Harris and and Joe Biden, uh, that they're making every effort to ensure that they will in fact uh be able to vote and that they're being identified and give them every opportunity.
I mean, it's hard to expect people to have that as their top priority when their house just got destroyed.
And uh, but with with that said, I know that a lot of people want to vote and in spite of their own personal difficulties will probably go through a lot of effort to to vote because they know North Carolina is so important and it's a state that always runs pretty close.
So I think it's very important that people get out in North Carolina, Georgia, and understand that's it's but you know, my my heart goes out to the people first.
I mean, they they have been through a lot.
If you lose your house and everything you own, every possession you have.
Um I I can only imagine, you know, you're just devastated by it all.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Michelle.
Our prayers with our friends in North Carolina, that I can tell you.
All right, quick break, right back.
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Hi.
Hey, Sean Doug.
It's a pleasure to talk to you, sir.
Hey, uh what's going on?
I know that you are a professing Christian like I am, and um, I have a biblical world view, and I'm concerned about the Christian vote in the election.
Uh I've I've been doing some studying, and it appears that many Christians are disengaging from the voting process this election.
Um there's some various reasons, but uh some of them appear to be apathy, or they don't like the candidate, or they don't like the issues that are being talked about, or this and that, whatever.
But I I view voting as a a privilege and a gift from God.
Um I go by Proverbs 29, 2, which says when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice.
And when the unrighteous are in authority, the people mourn.
And I don't I don't think I'd get any um blowback from anybody saying that within the last sixteen years, we've had some tough years, and it's about some people that have policies that are not biblically based, and they're certainly not righteousness ruling and reigning.
So I know there's freedom in Christ, and I would encourage my brothers and sisters out there, and uh thank you for the opportunity to share this with you, that that we have No, I would say that you know it's a it's a pretty cold-hearted position not to have any uh restrictions on abortion in month seven, eight, and nine.
Uh I take real offense to the idea of of removing all parental rights and allow allowing, quote, gender-affirming care like Minnesota and California and and it's rolling around in liberal circles uh without parental consent.
Uh I have a big problem with all of those issues.
Those are life-altering decisions we're talking about here.
Uh, in the case of you know, late-term abortion, that that is uh now we're talking about infanticide.
That's a child that could can live on its own outside the womb.
But you know, I um I think that there's a lot at stake in terms of I I don't think that women should be playing men's sports.
I just don't.
I think that Caitlin Jenner had said has said it perfectly.
And that, you know, I don't really care what somebody's hormone levels are when they're you know 20, what were they in puberty?
You know, Caitlin is a great golfer.
Caitlin could play in, you know, if if a lot she could play in probably a lot of ladies' you know golf tournaments and doesn't do it.
And the reason, and I asked her once why, and she said because I'd win them all because I can outdrive everybody by like a hundred and fifty yards.
And so I just those are issues that I think are moral issues of our time, and and maybe they don't get talked about.
There's been a lot of demagoguing about abortion.
You know, look at the state of Ohio.
State of Ohio, red state, we don't have to worry about the state of Ohio.
I hope people in Ohio will vote for Bernie Moreno.
That's a close race right now with Sherrod Brown.
Very, very that would be a big pickup for Republicans in the Senate.
But look look at the state of Ohio.
And in spite of it being a red state, when the issue of abortion was brought to the people, which is what overturning Roe v.
Wade allowed, they overwhelmingly voted to support abortion.
And the letting the people and respective states decide, you know, federalism, if you will, is is I think the right policy.
When given the opportunity, I think people are gonna make the decision that's right for them and for their state.
Abortion's not going to be outlawed.
Donald Trump, in spite of proclamations to the contrary, is not going to sign a national abortion ban.
He didn't when he was four years of president before.
But you know, the left right now is desperate.
They're gonna put what did James Carvel say.
We have that cut, we'll we'll play it again at some point later in the program.
James Carvel's out there this weekend, you know, suggesting that Trump's gonna round up his enemies and and you know, he's mimicking Nazi rallies and and he's gonna put every opponent in jail.
No, he's not.
If he was gonna do that, he would have done it the first time.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
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Uh uh Melania Trump will join us, the former first lady at the top of the hour, maybe the 47th first lady uh coming up.
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