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Governor Noem - August 7th, Hour 2
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Uh Mr. O'Reilly, sir.
I got to go through a little bit of news.
Uh the story is getting louder and louder and louder about Tim Walls uh being called a coward and a traitor for retiring from the military before Iraq, according to the guardsmen who replaced Tim Walls.
I needed to hit the ground running, take care of troops, and tell them that they were gonna going to war.
Uh and anyway, he literally, for a guy in his position to quit, he called cowardice.
Two other people have said the same thing.
Uh, but yet if you listen to Tim Walls, he says that uh he uh used these well, first he said about the National Guard, even though he served in it.
He said they're basically a bunch of 19-year-olds that learn that learn how to cook.
Listen.
I don't think the mayor knew what he was asking for.
He wanted the National Guard, and what does that mean?
I think to the mayor, yes, I think it's a perception.
I'm certainly not questioning that.
I think the mayor said I requested National Guard.
Who I'm out this is great.
We're gonna have massively trained troops.
No, you're gonna have 19-year-olds who are cooks in some cases, and what are we going to do and how are we going to use them?
Yikes.
Uh, but that now that story is beginning to blow up more and more as we go.
Anyway, all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly.
Bill O'Reilly, sir.
Here's what I want your take on.
So you have an opportunity to pick the very popular governor of the popular state, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, a guy by the name of Josh Shapiro.
You have that opportunity.
And that's a state that Democrats really need to win if if they want Kamala Harris and Tim Wall and and if they want Kamala Harris to be president.
Then you have Van Jones of all people saying that you also have anti-Semitism that has gotten marbled into this party, meaning the Democratic Party.
You can be for Palestinians without being an anti-Jewish bigot, but there are anti-Jewish bigots out there.
He's talking about the Democratic Party, and there's some disquiet now, and has to be.
You know, how much of what just happened, meaning picking Tim Walls, is caving into some of the darker parts of the party.
And here's my question.
Is they are political soulmates, meaning Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
This is the most, and you are you have a book coming out about this in about the presidency in September.
I've read it.
It's cover to cover.
It's a really good book.
I'll tell people about it at the right time.
And so you have the most radical, extreme, and I would argue dangerous ticket.
Ever to run for the presidency and vice presidency in this country.
I don't care if it's about open borders.
I don't care if it's about defund, dismantled no bail laws.
I don't care if it's about sanctuary cities and states and free education and free health care and housing to illegal immigrants.
I don't care if it's their economic policy to raise taxes on small business corporations on state taxes, and and up to 70 or 80%, Kamala said it would be a fantastic, potentially fantastic idea.
And she co-sponsored the Green New Deal.
I don't care if we're talking about their energy policies, no fracking, no drilling.
They both agree.
I don't care if it's their foreign policy, the surrender in the war against radical Islamic terrorism, which Kamala Harris says we should have the courage to no longer use those words or the words illegal alien.
It's never been this extreme.
Bernie Sanders isn't this extreme, Bill O'Reilly.
What what do you make of this election?
Well, you're lucky I'm smart, Hannity, so I can retain all of your questions.
I see it a little bit differently.
So I don't think it's uh any longer uh Trump versus Harris.
I think that the vote is between two systems.
The traditional system that Trump represents, he's a libertarian capitalist, and the brand new progressive system that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls represent.
It's fascinating to me because Harris picking Walls was very similar to Trump picking Vance.
So they they picked people who mirrored themselves.
Um you're right, the stronger pick would have been Shapiro just for the Electoral College, because both parties need Pennsylvania desperately in order to win the White House.
So you would think you would go to a governor who is very popular in Pennsylvania, very articulate guy.
Um, and the reason she did not go with him, I don't think was anti-Semitic.
I think that she is insecure and wants someone to back up her belief system.
Now I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm putting the chess pieces on the board.
But there may be one other factor.
Tell me if you might agree with this.
That maybe polling showed she need to shore up her base, and the way to do that is to pick a political soulmate.
I don't think so.
Um because the internal polling, which uh you see, and I don't know whether you tell your audience that I hope I didn't blow your cover.
And I you ble you blew my cover.
But go ahead.
I'm sorry I blew your cover, but I see it and you see it.
The internal polling basically has both base systems very loyal to their candidates.
So MAGA is like 95% for Trump.
And then Harris is about 90.
These are the people who are really ideological and they're not going to change.
So you're fighting over eight or nine percent of the independents uh who could go either way.
But Harris does not seem to me, as an observer and as a journalist and historian, to be a very secure politician.
Would you agree with that?
I would agree with that.
She does not appear particularly bright or articulate either.
I don't know about Bright.
I don't I think you're underestimating her uh her intellect.
But the reason that she has trouble articulating and why she is dodging all interviews at this point is because she gets nervous.
And she gets uh she's not confident.
Whereas Trump goes out and bloviates for five hours, you know.
I mean, you gotta bring that cotton to one of his rallies.
You gotta, it's an overnight now.
Um, but she's very tight.
And so I think personally, when she interviewed these people, that um Walls told her what she wanted to hear.
Down to a cue.
He's 60 years old.
He knows he can read people.
Now, Walls has got two big deficits, and I don't think this uh National Guard is one of them.
The first is how he reacted to the riots after George Floyd.
Um that was terrible.
What he did in Minnesota to allow that carnage to spread.
That's gonna work.
And what she did is uh as bad, if not worse.
No, no, no.
Waltz was bad because Walls, what his delay in moving the guard down caused lives.
Well, well, well uh we let's agree that what they both did was terrible.
It was uh disgraceful.
But go ahead.
Walls was worse.
And the second is the border.
If you look at the polling, every poll, every one, says that Americans do not like this open border.
And Walls is the biggest open border champion.
You couldn't have a more the guy, he's wants people to come to Minnesota.
He wants to pay their health care, their education.
He will give you cash payments.
He will give you a driver's license if you're a foreign national.
And here's the kicker on it.
You've been in Minnesota, I've been in Minnesota.
I know the state fairly well because they spent some time up in Rainy Lake in the boundary waters up in International Falls.
Beautiful area.
Gorgeous.
Minnesota is a rural state.
One big city, Minneapolis, St. Paul, it's actually two cities, but one big metro area.
The rest of the state are farmers and small business owners.
Okay.
Minnesota is the fifth highest tax state in the Union.
People are leaving in droves.
I hate to use the cliche.
They're leaving Minnesota.
They can't afford to live there anymore.
So when you combine, okay, what he did after the riots with the open border, with the high taxation, boy, you can go after him like crazy.
And I know the right wing commentators will.
But Shapiro didn't have any of that downside.
He didn't.
And so then you go, why would you do that?
Why would you pick a guy like Walls, who you know they're going to come for?
Where there's much paper pick and electorally pick is Shapiro.
And I'm telling you, it's all about personality here, Hannity.
That's what it's about.
I'm going to add, and I think you're right.
I think this election's going to come down to immigration.
If it comes down to issues, the economy, uh, law and order, I would add to that energy and energy policy, and I would add to that America's role in the world.
We're about we're we're on the precipice, Bill.
We now see Iran is planning to attack Israel.
And if they do, I would assume that their proxies, Hezbollah out of Lebanon and Hamas out of Gaza will simultaneously attack.
They'll have a three three three front uh war going on at the same time.
I mean, I mean, it's just gonna it's almost inevitable.
Last time Joe Biden and Kamala Harris refused to support Israel's right to retaliate and defend itself.
And I would imagine that same policy will continue today.
And what does that mean when they surrender against radical Islamic terrorism?
And she even said the words that we should have the courage not to use it.
I when she said that, my first thought was, well, then who attacked us on 9-11?
Who attacked Israel on October 7th?
If war breaks out in the Middle East, that will help the Trump ticket.
And we're nobody should be rooting for that because it's brutal over there now.
I mean, that's death on both sides.
It's terrible.
Right.
But if war breaks out, if Iran does attack, and I don't think they will, by the way, have it.
Oh, there's going there's gonna be a there's going to be an attack.
All right, we'll see.
I don't think Iran's gonna outright attack Israel because they're too vulnerable.
Um in the space of five hours, you can just destroy every port Iran has.
It's not hard to do that.
Is the Israeli Air Force could do it in the space of five hours.
Okay?
And I don't think Iran wants to risk that, but I could be wrong.
Um, they're rich thanks to Joe and Kamala, but go ahead.
All right.
They'll do the proxy thing, that's what Iran does.
Uh they're doing it with the Hooties on the Red Sea.
You know what they're doing.
All right, but an all-out attack on Israel by Iran, that's gonna lead to massive defeat for Iran.
Massive.
They're ready.
They already did it, Bill.
I mean, why would they not do it again?
And they're saying they're going to do it.
You know what I'm talking about.
It's not gonna be a ground war, it's gonna be an air war.
Okay, so they're gonna fire missiles from Iran, they'll have their proxies firing them from the north and the south, and maybe the Houthis, maybe a forefront war.
I don't know.
But I don't think Israel's gonna stand by I I can tell you this.
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden won't help them retaliate and fight back.
Why don't they support their right to win the war against radical Islamic terrorism?
October 7th, they lost the equivalent of what would be 40,000 Americans in a day.
Answer that question.
I do.
The Democratic Party base is progressive that feel that Israel is a fascist nation.
They've always believed that.
Always.
No.
No, not Bill Clinton didn't think this way.
Obama was not pro-Israel, but not like this.
No, it wasn't to this extent because the Progressive Party wasn't that strong when Clinton was uh running for office in 88.
Now how did we get from Bernie Sanders losing to these two being the most radical ticket in history?
You know, that's a that's a fascinating question.
How did the Democratic Party evolve into this far left operation?
How did that happen?
I you know study that.
You mean I stumped Bill O'Reilly?
That's like a record.
I'm gonna end this interview while I can.
But it is a fascinating aspect.
It would be like if the Republican Party were putting Barry Goldwater up as their standard bearer.
Let's drop nukes.
That's what Barry wanted to do.
Okay.
That's with the same thing.
So the Democratic Party's gone so far left that if you're a moderate, you can't exist in the party.
And the correspondence on the Republican side would be hey, let's do what Barry Goldwater wanted to do.
And so people get a vivid idea of the extremist nature of what we have.
And that's why I go back to my original point.
It's not Trump versus Kamala.
Americans will vote in November for a system.
Do you want to keep the traditional American system?
I I will say this.
I think America under Harris and Walls will become unrecognizable and will never recover.
That's what I believe.
I hope uh I hope uh they don't have a chance to wreck the current system that has been the greatest wealth creation system in the history of the world and the greatest country God ever gave man, built on the principle that we're one nation under God with liberty and freedom.
Uh all right, all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, it's always a pleasure.
Appreciate your time.
Thanks for having me in.
Appreciate it.
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Yep, it is here with the most radical team to ever run for the office of the presidency and a complicit media mob, state-run media, pravda media.
Uh we find ourselves in an information void that the Trump campaign that is their biggest obstacle.
Now, we all watched Tim Walls, the most I mean, he's the Bernie Sanders of governors, as we've been pointing out his record.
The media is not doing their job.
They're not vetting him.
The most damning pick you could ever have.
They're not answering questions.
The mob is letting them get away without answering questions.
I don't care what the question is, they are soulmates politically on immigration, soulmates on raising taxes, destroying the economy.
They are soulmates on no fracking, no drilling, and on high energy prices and new green deal madness.
Uh their soulmates on defund, dismantle no bail laws.
And you saw this on display.
We had 574 riots in the summer of 2020.
We have talked often about this.
Insurrections, if you will.
Uh where was Liz Cheney when we could have used an investigation into these because dozens of Americans died, thousands of Americans were injured, and billions of dollars in property damage.
Thousands of cops were injured, uh, pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails.
And remember, this is the bail fund that that Kamala Harris contributed to at the time.
But you know, what did what did Tim Walls do?
On the first night of violent rioting, he did nothing.
On the second night of violent rioting, he did nothing.
On the third night, as I've been telling you, after a target was ransacked at a police precinct, that's the one that was burned to the ground.
Tim Walls did nothing.
The left wing mayor of Minneapolis was begging, I mean, absolutely begging Walls for help.
And guess what?
He did nothing.
He wanted the National Guard.
Walls refused, and it just got worse and worse and worse.
It wasn't until night five that Governor Walls finally decided to send in the guard and restore order, but by then entire neighborhoods had burned to the ground.
Blocks and blocks of businesses were were looted and burned to the ground.
Three Americans in were dead in town.
Governor Walls didn't care, said that the people actually deserved this violence because of lack of equity and inclusion.
And I've been playing that cut for you.
But J.D. Vance summarized them as the perfect team when it comes to this issue.
Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz do make an interesting team because if we remember the rioting in the summer of 2020, Tim Waltz was the guy who let rioters burn down Minneapolis, and then Kamala Harris was the one who bailed the rioters out of jail.
So there's an interesting team in that sense.
Wow.
Pretty interesting.
By the way, the first lady of Minnesota, you know, basked in the riots, literally telling local media she opened her windows in her home to smell the burning tires so she could breathe in this historic moment.
And then went on to express deep admiration for violent criminals, as I was telling you in the last hour, and saying that they deserved unlimited chances to commit more crimes.
You just, it's insanity.
But that's that is the radicalism.
And then Kamala Harris, you know, helped the Minnesota bail fund out, and they had only had a $250,000 budget.
She raised over 40 plus million dollars, tweeting out the bail fund, which was supporting the insurrection, if you will, or the writing that was going on there.
Uh they raised over 40 million dollars, and that helped violent criminals get out of jail and commit more heinous crimes as they did.
Here's Walls defending sanctuary cities and states as well, because look at what it's doing.
They both support the idea of open borders, not criminalizing those that enter our country illegally, providing them free health care, free housing, free education.
Walls even wants free college education.
Listen.
Minnesota be a sanctuary state.
If the definition of that is that the federal government enforces immigration law and local law enforcement enforces local law, then yes.
Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities.
Yes.
Local control.
Wow.
Anyway, joining us now is the governor of South Dakota, Christy Nomas with us.
Governor, uh do you happen to know Walls?
I mean, I figure you might have run into him at some point.
Yeah, absolutely.
We served in Congress together, so um I knew him very well.
Uh we worked on a couple pieces of legislation at the time.
Uh, but when we both ran for governor the same year and both got elected governor, boy, he dramatically changed.
He turned into a radical.
I think it's true colors came out quite a bit in what he did in Minnesota, and listen, he's dangerous.
He's dangerous for this country.
We border Minnesota and there could not be two completely different stories of the consequences of leadership on their people.
We have literally had thousands of people leave Minnesota and move to South Dakota to escape the consequences of his decisions.
And so uh, you know, they luckily had a place they could go where life could be better and they'd get away from the mandates and the taxes and the regulation and losing their freedoms.
If we let Walls and Harris into the White House, uh we can't leave America and find anywhere better.
There's nowhere else to go.
So I I hope people really truly do find out the truth about the extremism of the walls and Harris tickets.
Well, it's not going to come from the state run media mob because they're in full protection mode and totally complicit and the biggest donors to the Kamala Harris and Tim Walls campaign.
Uh, but I do believe that if America becomes very familiar with how radical, extreme and dangerous their views and their policies are, I I don't think that they have a shot at winning.
Um people are asking me if they're getting nervous about the race.
And I'm like, no, not yet.
Um I think there's a time and a place for it.
Most people tend to historically get engaged after Labor Day, and I think a lot of people are watching on the periphery.
I think they uh I I'm not sure they understand yet completely what these the positions that both of them have taken on the issue of law and order, on immigration, on energy, on the economy, on foreign policy.
I mean, these clips that we've unearthed about Kamala Harris.
Uh we need the courage to stop saying radical Islamic terrorism.
Well, who attacked us on nine eleven oh one?
Who attacked Israel October seventh?
We need to stop, you know, have the courage not to say illegal alien.
Well, if you enter the country illegally, what should we call you?
That's an official government term for crying out loud.
Uh but that that's pretty extreme.
And then free health care, we reward you for your law breaking.
And we use taxpayer dollars to do it.
Uh what a great country that is.
Yeah, it's interesting that they look at the taxpayers as someone who's somebody else other than the people who live here, that the taxpayers will fund all of their extreme policies, not just you know, free college tuition, but free health care and and sanctuary cities, and you know, everything is more taxes, more regulation.
And the thing that's interesting about Governor Walls is he actually did all of these things.
You know, Harris will try to pass the blame off on to Biden or the previous administration and try to remake herself.
There is real decisions that Governor Walls made and things that he said in Minnesota that that Americans need to know about.
He took away their freedoms.
He mandated vaccines and mandated masks, even outdoors.
He said that people had to shut down their businesses, they couldn't go to church, that they couldn't have gatherings, they couldn't have exercise their constitutional right of freedom of assembly.
And it had devastating consequences on their economy, and then he wrapped himself all up in the Green New Deal and mandated um electric vehicles and compliance at the state level that they can't possibly meet without crashing their own economy.
And just because he's sold out to the socialist agenda.
So he is really not uh proven that he has beholden to any of the values that made this country great.
And that's what Americans need to be reminded about is it matters who you put in that White House for their day to day lives, and we need to keep talking about the economy, about the border, and about law and order.
And on those issues, uh every single day Trump advanced uh win those those issues by their policies helping American families be stronger and do better.
I think it's the biggest choice election in our lifetime.
I think the America, frankly, is at an inflection point, a tipping point.
Uh we can't afford the Green New Deal.
It'll bankrupt the country.
We can't afford open borders.
We already we had a report this week that they let ninety-nine known uh individuals with terror ties free into the country and and don't know where they are.
Uh we know that they're taking in uh people unvetted from places like Iran and Syria and Egypt and Afghanistan and Uzbekistan and Venezuela and China and Russia.
I mean, it's only a matter of when, not if, where this country's gonna get hit.
We are uh we already are losing lives every day.
I would argue very strongly, and I've said it many times, and I'll keep saying it, is that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris have blood on their hands, and yet they want to continue the policies uh uh meanwhile um innocent Americans are dying and being raped and being victims of brutal brutally violent crimes.
I don't get it.
Can you explain that to me?
No, they have a track record of giving people who break the law more rights and more place in our cities and our communities than citizens who get up every day and work hard and take care of their children and and follow the law and respect you know, law enforcement and and leadership.
They they have a track record that we need to remind people of.
I think that so many people right now uh don't remember how ugly and dark it got back in 2020, 2021.
Uh, they're feeling it in their pocketbooks too, but they also need to remember what our cities looked like and how they were tearing down our statues and our monuments and degrading our entire history of this country and and that's what Harris and Walls have have stood for, they fought for.
Um they have been, I think, enemies of America and what we stand for in the actions that they've taken.
And boy, it's gonna you talk about it being a consequential election.
It is the most consequential election because we've never had such a left wing ticket from the Democratic Party.
I mean, think of the state of the Democratic Party when these are the two individuals that they choose to be their leaders.
You know, balls has said his quote is one person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.
What by the way, and Kamala Harris said he did say those exact words, and Kamala said uh the high price of energy is just the cost of of being in a democracy.
And I'm like, Oh, okay, tell that to the families that can barely make ends meet or can't make ends meet and are putting fair necessities on credit cards.
That's exactly right.
Uh, you know, while also has said he's very happy to be labeled as a big government liberal.
Well, a big government liberal is someone who says the government needs to make all your decisions for you and control your money and control your future instead of you yourself, and that's not the American dream.
That's not it at all.
And and he has completely lost sight of that and and Harris picked him as the guy that she wants to run and and run this country with it.
That's that's a dangerous ticket right there, and I hope we all wake up to it.
Well, I hope we do as well.
Uh Governor, we appreciate you being with us, Governor Christy Noem, South Dakota.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Sean.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones.
800 nine four-one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh let's say hi to Linda is in Minnesota.
Linda, how are you?
Glad you called.
Again, all these these listeners from Minnesota calling in the last couple of days.
They have a lot to say about their governor.
Uh, Linda, how are you?
Glad you called.
Super.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
I am a small business owner from central Minnesota, and I have lived the nightmare of Governor Walls.
He's evil.
This is a guy that, as we've talked about, has let one of the most beautiful cities in the country burn, an amazing tourism destination.
He does not support our military, law enforcement, small business, the average citizen or Israel, and he's a crook.
When you how do you re how do you really feel about him?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Let me repeat, I've been living it as a small business owner um for thirty years.
Uh this guy, when you think about what he did to Minneapolis and what he did to those police officers with the third precinct, he told them, we're gonna let it burn, get your stuff out, do not put any riot gear on so that you can incite because we don't want to we don't want to upset the criminals out there, the rioters.
Um and then we're gonna have a bus for you a block away.
Well, the bus was more than a block away.
They had bricks and frozen water bottles being thrown at these poor law enforcement officers.
They had pallets of bricks brought into areas of Minneapolis for the rioters to use.
Pellets of bricks.
And I don't know if anybody has had the opportunity.
Um, there's an amazing woman named Liz Collins, and I think you may have had her on.
She was a CBS WCCO from Minneapolis, Primetime Anchor.
And she was pretty much walked off her desk.
She has created an amazing movie called The Fall of Minneapolis.
You can find it on YouTube for free.
Which is anybody, I don't care what your political affiliations are.
If it can happen to the people in Minneapolis, what happened to those law enforcement officers, it can happen to anybody.
But the other thing on that topic that I'd like to mention is what he said about our National Guard.
The mayor asked about the National Guard.
He he um he basically fluffed it off and he said, you know, I don't know what the mayor was thinking.
He was going to get skilled military people when all of the guard is.
Now they're a bunch of 19-year-old cooks.
That's what he said.
I I've got to run on, but I do appreciate your call.
I really do, and all our friends in Minnesota that have been uh calling in with a lot of details about Governor Walls and how radical and extreme and dangerous his policies are.
I hope America really opens its eyes.
Uh that's why we're here put up on Hannity the Kamala and Walls files, and you can download everything you'd ever want on both of them.
800 941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Jack Brewer at the top of the hour.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
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