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Facing the Unimaginable - August 5th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, top of the tanking economy.
We've all been feeling it for four years.
Now we've got another big problem emerging in the Middle East.
We've got war in Europe, war in the Middle East, and it is getting worse by the day.
We are watching Biden and Kamala Harris and their typical they hate Israel operandi, you know, that their MO, if you will.
Now we're quoting Biden scolding Netanyahu and uh in the hostage deal talk report, stop BSing me.
While Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel have been lectured again and again after the October seventh terror attacks that killed the equivalent of what would have been forty thousand Americans in a day, and uh telling them and lecturing them to show restraint, show restrain, show restraint.
Israel has had to fight this battle battle alone.
And now as we await any hour the the very strong possibility of an attack again by Iran directly on Israel in response to Israel taking out the number one Hamas leader inside of Iran, again the lectures begin.
Now, I guess after the last attack, direct attack from Iran to Israel, the Biden administration did help Israel defend itself, but then said if you're going to retaliate, if you're going to fight back against the number one state sponsor of terrorism, we are out.
And Israel responded.
And they penetrated very deeply into Iranian territory, much deeper than I thought anybody had capability of, considering the size of the landmass we're talking about.
The rocket that was used in northern by by Hezbollah in the north, they're fighting a two front war.
This will probably as of tonight or tomorrow be a three front war again.
The rocket that was fired into that soccer field killing those Israeli children, that was an Iranian rocket.
All of the plotting and planning and scheming of October seventh and all of the weaponry provided all came from Iran.
Uh the Hooti rebel attacks are all coming from Iran.
Iran is the the head of the snake.
They always have been.
And so if Iran engages directly, well, Israel, if they retaliate, which they have to, then they will probably be on their own again.
I've never seen such radicalism on display in my entire life.
Joining us, Mosa Youssef is with us.
He's the author of the brand new book.
It's out uh it's on Hannity.com.
We have a link.
It's on Amazon.com.
It's on bookstores around the country.
It's called From Hamas to America, my story of defying terror, facing the unimaginable and finding redemption in the land of opportunity.
Uh he is the son of one of Hamas's founders.
Sir, welcome back to the program.
Great to have you.
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for having me.
I don't think most people understand Hamas.
Your father was one of the founders of Hamas.
Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Iran is providing they provided the cuts forces, the Iranian revolutionary guards forces, and the weaponry for the October seventh terror attack.
Now we're we're on the brink of another conflict and war, and I don't think most Americans understand Hamas.
What can you tell them about him?
I don't know where to begin.
And uh many Americans think uh that Hamas is uh uh an Israeli problem.
But they don't realize that Hamas is uh the enemy of the United States.
Well, they don't understand that Iranians or the Islamic Republic of Iran can't death to America first before they say death to Israel.
The Islamic Republic, which funds Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad and the other proxies, that includes the House, they are targeting the American interests in the region.
For how many years now?
For decades.
So I don't understand this generation who is not capable of connecting the dots.
Hamas is anti-American first.
Before they are anti uh Israel.
Uh this is an uh Islamic uh ideology that it wants to dominate the globe.
So you grew up in this environment and what we can see out of Gaza, for example, my many trips to the border at Gaza with Israel, I I I learned a lot myself.
But they indoctrinate kids through cartoons through their educational system into hating the Jews, hating Israel.
Why is that?
And how did you how did you resist the indoctrination or did for a period did you fall for it?
Children indoctrination, this is Hamas strategy.
First they indoctrinate the children, and as a child of that conflict, at the process begins as early as the moment of birth.
You know, when they uh chant Allahu Akbar in the ear of the uh newborn babies.
So indoctrination begins very early.
Then after that, I wish it it it does start at that level.
They push an entire generation to fight by the name of Allah, you know, when people on October seventh killed uh the Jewish minority in the Middle East, they did not kill the Jews by the name of Palestine, they killed the name by the name of Allah because it's rooted, the Islamic hatred is rooted in the Quran, and anyone who says otherwise, they are lying to the American public.
And now, here is the moral dilemma.
If we allow Hamas and Islamists eliminate or kill the Jewish people as a Jewish minority, and let Iran bully Israel as a small uh uh ethnic group could be the most ancient i ethnic group on planet earth.
If we allow them to do that, who's going to be next?
If we legitimize their violence, well, we are inviting violence here to our doorsteps.
So with that said, indoctrination, religious hatred, this has been a religious war for so long, and Americans need to acknowledge that Israel is fighting on our behalf.
We we are helping Israel, but also Israel is helping us in many other ways.
So we cannot let Israel uh fight the fight alone.
But you at one point were actually imprisoned by the Israelis.
Uh even, you know, they they squeezed you for information, they used tough tactics against you.
Then you ended up working with Israeli intelligence.
You exposed suicide bombers, you actually saved lives and eventually sought asylum in the US and and got it, which hence the name of your book, From Hamas to America, my story of defying terror, facing the unimaginable, finding redemption in the land of opportunity.
I mean, how did this transformation come about?
Look, first of all, I did not leave Hamas yesterday.
It has been uh twenty-seven years, and this is a life journey, and I cannot cover everything, you know, my motives and uh how the transformation happened in my life, it's detailed in my uh two books.
Uh now, what's really more important that uh that I am able to see both worlds, you know, that that darkness, that dark world that really does not tolerate anything that is non-Muslim, anything outside of their narrow view of life.
They are seeking destruction.
And if we allow them uh to grow, if we don't eradicate them, if we give them legitimacy, and this is what we've been doing.
So many people here in the whatso-called woke movement in the United States have legitimized Hamas as a resistant movement.
They legitimized raping and killing and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish people.
If we this is where we stand today, this is a disaster.
We are legitimizing evil by doing so.
So now uh uh this is my strong message.
It doesn't matter where I came from.
I'm able to see uh both sides uh of the paradox.
And this is my moral responsibility today as an American, as an American who came from the depths of Hamas uh organization and uh Muslim Brotherhood ideology, that it's my responsibility towards the American people, my people.
This is my country, this is my nation.
I am not here to spread proka propaganda on behalf of anybody.
And when I say we must defy uh uh uh uh support Israel in this fight, because Israel is fighting on our behalf.
And we can we cannot uh let Israel down.
If we do this, the outcome is going to be catastrophic.
Let's look at what has happened since October 7th.
As I said, I'm I have a hard time understanding the mindset of so many Americans, be it in the halls of Congress or on college campuses or in the White House and the president and the vice president, I would, you know, argue that there has been a complete capitulation and surrender on the war on ra against radical Islamic terrorism.
After, for example, the equivalent of 40,000 Americans were killed on October 7th, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have been out there urging quote restraint.
They should have been telling Israel we give you our full support to win your war against radical Islamic terrorists that want to destroy you.
They didn't do that.
They are, you know after Iran got involved directly, and I appreciate the fact they helped Israel defend itself, but that's not enough.
They said if you strike back or you retaliate you should you take the win you're you didn't get hit with many of their rockets that's a win.
And they didn't want Israel to strike back against Iran.
To me that kind of weakness only incurs further aggression.
I would say that is evidence that the United States of America is abdicated its role on the world stage as the leader of the free world and they have no moral clarity about the evil that you're talking about.
None at all.
They are compromised bottom line they are compromised because they're after their short selfish interest and they are not willing to pay what it what are the interests what is what what possible benefit they want what?
Iranian money they want Iranian oil?
Look it's not only Iran there is uh Qatar there is Saudi Arabia there's so many Muslim countries I don't know who have been infiltrating this country and paying off politicians.
I don't have all this information this has this need to be in the investigated because this people are weak and they are we have the most powerful army and we have been sending the wrong messages I don't understand the position of this current administration regarding Hamas.
You know, they've been condemning Israel and legitimizing Hamas does not make sense.
This is not the America that I know.
This is not the America that I want to live in.
So their intention, their position, their imposter is very suspicious, very suspicious.
And the Congress needs to actually watch their moves very carefully.
Because now this regional war that we are witnessing, it's the outcome of a weak leadership.
If the United States government from day one cut the head of the snake, you know, the adequate response for October 7 was to take out Ayatollah and Hassan Nasrallah together simultaneously.
But the United States kept watching and playing the role of a mediator.
A mediator, this is your war.
This is your ally.
This is your people sending the wrong messages right now.
They ignited the bloodlust in Iran.
the bloodlust in all its proxies and what we are dealing with a gl uh uh regional war and if we don't respond lethal to any attempt to annihilate the Jewish people the Jewish state which includes Arabs Muslims Druze and many other ethnic groups the only democracy in the Middle East you know what's going to happen?
Russia and China will take over it will become a global war.
So we need to show a firm position this weak administration is guiding us to a catastrophe a disaster.
I couldn't agree with you more but I would anticipate this is how this is going to go down the Iranians are going to fire missiles into Israel.
Hopefully they won't land hopefully they'll be able to stop them I don't know if they will the United States may help in the defense but Israel is not going to lay down and take that there and they're going to be told by the United States again to show restraint show restraint.
Now after October seventh the Israelis have been able to take out the number four leader of Hamas, the number three leader of Hamas, the number two leader of Hamas, and the number one leader of Hamas.
They also were able to get the architect of the of the individual responsible for for launching that Iranian uh missile into that soccer field in Israel just you know a week and a half ago, and they took him out.
And they're doing all of this without the support of the United States.
What does that tell you about Kamala Harris and Joe Biden?
Well, I made my uh position very clear from uh this uh week uh leadership that they're just trying to win the uh pro-abortion uh voters, and they are trying to win Dearborn, and they're forgetting about the most powerful ally that we have in the region, the ones that who stood with us after 9-11, the ones who give us intelligence, they share with us uh everything in defense in intelligence on every level uh that is in the interest of the United States.
So let me go back a little bit to the Sulaimani assassination, the top uh Islamic Republic General.
What did Iran do after that?
They couldn't do anything to President Trump.
You know, the guy died and they have to swallow their pride and move on.
Because when it's the United States in the picture, the mighty of the United States, the most powerful No, there was there was there's a backstory to that, and I have sources that have told me that the Iranians backchattled, oh, we're gonna act like we're gonna firing back, but we're gonna miss every target, and we're not gonna go anywhere near or take any American lives.
And then they they went out publicly and and said, Oh, we hit all these targets that they never came close to.
Um, but we'll take a break.
Mossab Yousaf, author of the brand new book from Hamas to America, my story of defying terror, facing the unimaginable and finding redemption in the land of opportunity.
Uh his father, one of the founders of Hamas, more on the other side as we sit here on the brink of a potential war, full-on war breaking out in the Middle East, maybe even within hours.
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His book is on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, now in bookstores around the country.
Uh, you really need to get a copy of it because this will give you all of the insider clarity that you would need to understand the nature of this this battle.
It is between good and evil.
And Iran is evil.
And Hamas and these terror groups, their proxies are evil.
Quick break, right back more with Massab Youssef, his brand new book is out from Hamas to America as we continue.
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We continue now with Mosab uh Youssef.
He's the author of the new book.
It's now out as on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores all around the country, and it's called from Hamas to America, my story of defying terror, facing the unimaginable, finding redemption in the land of opportunity.
And we're having this interview and the release of his book, as of the world is is literally not only watching the disaster, which is uh the economy tanking, uh, and Linda, we should pull tape of me saying what, maybe three, four weeks ago, uh, yeah, you may want to reduce your exposure to the market.
Uh I'm telling you, it's running too hot.
There's gonna be a correction.
But anyway, his life and his background, his father was one of the founders of Hamas, and here we are on the brink of an all-out war in the Middle East, and we have a president and vice president and a presidential candidate that pretty much have surrendered in the war against radical Islamic terrorism.
I mean, as a matter of fact, Kamala Harris even said as much that we should have the courage not to say the word radical Islamic terrorism.
Listen.
You must have the courage to object when they use that term.
Radical Islamic terrorism, which ignorance how much than the greatest victims of terror.
And we also have the courage to reject that term illegal alien.
I have seen the worst of criminal behavior.
I have seen the worst of crime, and undocumented immigrants is not a criminal.
Mosab Yousse, uh, your father was one of the founders, as we discussed earlier.
You've been a U.S. citizen now for 27 years.
This is your home.
When you hear the democratic presidential candidate and the vice president of this country say that we should have the courage not to use the term radical Islamic terrorism.
What does that mean to you?
This means that she's in total denial.
Uh this is uh the model of someone who wants to stick their head in the sand and pretend that there is no danger.
But the future of the country is at stake.
Because uh how long uh I've known you, uh Sean?
Almost 15 years, right?
About that, yeah.
We've known each other a long time.
I've interviewed you many times.
Yeah, and I've been saying this, the Islamic danger.
You know, but many people cancelled me because, especially the work movement and what's so-called liberals in this country, that they don't understand what liberty is all about when they see someone who severed his entire relationship with his family, with a beloved ones, for the sake of truth.
You know, that we cannot coexist with violence, that violence is a dead end, that terrorism and uh religious hatred against uh the non-Musmans is a dead end, and it's gonna lead us to a disaster.
But today I see that many people from the presidential candidate, which in my opinion, she does not qualify at all.
And I hope she will not win, otherwise it's gonna be a disaster, because she's legitimizing Islamists and communists at the same time, should get caught in it.
But what she doesn't understand that these two opposing forces, if they meet, it would be a disaster.
And this is what she's inviting for this country in her denial.
Uh now, I totally oppose this because America is should be the way it is.
This is what makes America unique.
And we don't want to bring communists here and legitimize them, and I see the rise of like a new generation of communists here in the country, establishing communist party and we see the pro-Palestine just roaming, harassing decent citizens, intimidating, bullying people, uh, and the government's doing nothing about this.
You know, since when the PLO and Palestine and a Palestinian violent ideology became legitimate in the United States, they lied to us after Oslo, and they did not fulfill their promises to make peace with Israel.
So we need to reverse this status, you know, the status of Palestine.
This is non-existential entity that is aiming to destroy the state of Israel, to destroy America, to bring confusion, and what they are aiming to do, by the way, is impulsion.
And if we stay quiet about it, whether if they are the high profile politicians or the uh street thugs that they've been intimidating public.
The outcome is going to be disastrous.
Who attacked America on 911?
Who attacked Israel on October 7?
What part of rape, murder, kidnapping, torture, beheading do people like Kamala Harris not understand?
I don't know.
I I mean I find the level of just utter ignorance and in uh bordering on radically dangerous.
He is endangering our country.
Joe Biden is endangering the country and they're also endangering the world.
Because America needs to be the beacon of light and freedom around the world and needs to have the moral clarity to understand the difference between good versus evil.
What you're describing with Iran and Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthi rebels and and all of these people that buy into an ISIS and Al Qaeda and you can name every other group Islamic jihad is these are groups that are dedicated to an ideology that is convert or die.
They believe in a caliphate you understand the teachings of this what is the ultimate goal of of all of these radicals and I and this maybe the one thing that Sunni versus Shia has in common they want to destroy Israel and they want to destroy America am I wrong on that?
That's true.
And this is uh the uh jihad concept of Islam it's all unique to Islam and Islam in my opinion is not even a religion does not qualify to be a religion because it's just seeking to dominate and invade and conquer.
You know religion is uh not all m not all Muslims believe in this radical version isn't that correct?
Well then they they are not Muslims.
They are not Muslims in this case to be a true Muslim you must believe in jihad and you must demonstrate jihad physically all Muslims are required to fight for the sake of Allah and if they cannot fight physically they must how how come these leaders never become suicide bombers how come they end up living lives of luxury and riches and wealth how come they never put their life on the line how come they just give orders for others to do it.
Yes, because we are in a situation, we are cut up in the fire between the hypocrites and the extremists.
So we look at the extremists, it's like, okay, this is radical Islam, then there is moderate Islam, and they are playing the bad and good cup for so long.
And today I say, no, you need to understand what you identify with, because the Islamic belief system does not tolerate the non-Muslims and any other belief outside of it.
They are aiming to create a global Khilafah.
This is Nazism.
We are not dealing with religion.
This is a totalitarian system that is anti-humanity, anti-American, and if we allow them to grow stronger, to invite them to the United States, there are going to be consequences.
We are already actually dealing with the consequences.
I don't want to say it's too late.
But by the way, before the Islamic Republic of Iran, before it was born in 1979, there was almost no Islam.
Islam was destroyed after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1918.
So it is possible to counter the Islamic danger, the green danger.
This is what the CIA called it.
As we counter the red danger.
At the end of the day, if they want to worship the stone, I don't have a problem with it.
It's their choice.
It's their delusion.
I will not...
persecute them or abuse them for the choices uh that they make in their life.
But what I will not tolerate, that they start throwing stones towards me, rockets towards me, and delegitimize me, and they try to seize my my right to exist and the right of all the non-Muslims to exist.
This is something I I kind of thought of.
Well, I appreciate your admonition and your warning.
I think the level of ignorance about radical Islamic terrorism is frightening.
And we're gonna see this.
It looks like we're gonna see this.
Maybe maybe it won't happen, but I tend to believe it's probably very imminent.
Uh and watch Joe and Kamala again surrender in the war against radical Islamic terrorists.
Anyway, uh Mousab Youssef, always great to have you.
Your new book is called From Hamas to America, my story of defying terror, facing the unimaginable, finding redemption in the land of opportunity.
Uh, I hope people are hearing you loud and clear that there are groups of people that have been so radicalized they want to destroy Israel, destroy America, destroy the free world, and they want to implement their radicalism in a worldwide caliphate.
That is their end goal.
And I hope people understand this is a clear and present danger.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Talk soon.
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Um, speaking of this pending conflict, we are quickly approaching now the one-year anniversary of what would be the equivalent of losing 40,000 Americans in a day, and that's October the seventh when Hamas attacked Israel.
The holy land continues to be attacked.
We saw that, you know, the soccer field and these young Israeli kids that were murdered and slaughtered.
Anyway, these deadly threats are increasing in northern Israel.
Also, they're battling from the south.
Now they're awaiting incoming from Iran directly.
These constant attacks have caused widespread damage and raging wildfires, and it's destroying you know, farmland and the land of the holy land altogether.
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Let's get more phones.
We have Professor Cheryl Catt from California.
What kind of professor are you?
Hi, Sean.
Um, it's so nice to speak with you.
It's always an honor.
Um, I'm a law professor.
I'm the daughter of an almost 97-year-old Holocaust survivor and a father That's right.
We've spoken before.
You have our now I now remember.
I apologize for not remembering right away.
That's okay.
That's okay.
It's always an honor to speak to you.
And I just um, you know, we wanted to say, first of all, God bless, you know, Musa Yesaf for speaking out and speaking the truth.
You know, it takes a lot of courage to do that.
And you know, my um grandpa used to say that you can't know where you're going unless you know where you come from.
And the problem is this administration has no idea who they are and they don't know where they're coming from.
Say it said after October the seventh that they stand with Israel.
And I remember when Senator John Kennedy came out and said to President Biden, don't go wobbly on Us now because that's the right attitude.
But what has he done ever since?
He's done nothing but attack Israel, make demands of Israel, tell Israel to have ceasefires.
Well, to all those people out there marching its campuses and everything, asking for sea fires, there have been cease fires dozens and dozens of times before October 7th and even since October 7th.
And what has happened?
Hamas doesn't recognize them.
Hezbollah doesn't recognize them, and they keep attacking Israel.
To people like Josh Shapiro, who may be a vice presidential candidate or whatever.
A two-state solution is just words.
They don't want a two-state solution.
The Democrat Party wants a three-state solution.
They want to placate all of the pro-Arab or pro-Hamas group so that they can get the electoral votes from Minnesota and Michigan and Wisconsin.
Who cares?
Can't you do the right thing for America?
These are American hostages that are there.
You supposedly are bragging that, oh, you know, you made a deal to return thugs in order to get Americans.
Well, Israel values life.
But when President Trump was in office and we got back our 58 hostages, how did he do it?
He did it with military strength, and he did it with his art of the deal strength, not through capitulating with talons and talons of billions of dollars to Iran.
And you can't make a deal with somebody who says they want to kill you.
You say, I'll give you some land, Professor Katz.
And I say, Well, Sean, I still want to kill you.
And you say, okay, so I'll give you some more land.
And you say, Great, I still want to kill you.
It doesn't work.
To have peace, you have to have a willing partner.
And even the, you know, here in the United States in the Biden administration, they have so many pro-Iran athletes, not to mention that they always ask CARE for their advice.
CARE was recognized even by the United Emirates as a terrorist organization, and it was recognized by our Department of Justice as a terror having terrorist ties back in 2013.
Well, they were undivided, they were unended co-conspirators in a case, but I don't have a lot of time.
Go ahead.
The point is we have hostages.
If you care for all those people out there who say, oh, well, I'm a social justice warrior.
Great.
If you care about women's rights, there are young girls who were raped, who were massacred, who were murdered.
On top of that, they're hostages.
We don't know if they're, I'm sure, still being raped and abused.
What about their rights?
How come you're not speaking out about them?
You say you care about children.
Little B the Boss kids, one at five today, the other one's an infant.
You say you care about the elderly.
They have Holocaust survivors who are still being held hostage.
I could talk to you all day.
And because you're in an informed caller like most of the people on this show.
And this is where I urge people, I deputize all of you.
You bet to tell your friends what is at stake.
America's at an inflection point.
Professor, God bless you.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
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