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We now have Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, the supreme leader vowing to retaliate against Israel over the fact that they took out the number one leader of Hamas.
Remember Hamas, the terror group supported by Iran.
Iran was helping their Quds forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, plot, plan, and scheme what they did on October the 7th, which would be the equivalent of losing 40,000 Americans in a day.
And, you know, why the left in this country, why Kamala Harris and Joe Biden surrendered in the war on terror and did not support Israel's right to win that war is inexplicable and absolutely, you know, so dangerous for the world.
And, you know, while I do give them credit, they did help when Iran was firing missiles into Israel.
They did help defend Israel.
But then they said, you can't retaliate.
If you do, you are on your own.
Well, that is a complete surrender as far as I'm concerned in the war against radical Islamic terrorists.
If you think about how great Israel's military is, when they did strike back without any support from the United States, look at the map and how deeply, I mean, Iran is a big country, a lot of landmass.
And if you take a look at the strikes when they responded alone, because Joe and Kamala had to give in to the radical wing in their party, they went deep.
They penetrated deep inside of Iran.
And I didn't know that they had that capability, but obviously that they do.
But here's the situation we find ourselves in.
And that is Israel is now battling Hamas out of Gaza in the south, Hezbollah, a Lebanon in the north.
They're facing more missile attacks from Iran, the soccer field attack that killed these young children.
Well, that attack actually happened with an Iranian missile.
Now, add to that the other news of the day, which is this Wall Street Journal reporter.
I'm not going to say his name right, Evan Gersukovich.
I know he was sentenced to 16 years in prison, and it ends up being a much bigger deal than we initially knew, but it involves 24 prisoners, six countries, and apparently months of tough negotiations.
Now, remember, the Biden administration made a deal with Iran.
They were going to give them another $6 billion for the release of Americans that are being held hostage in Iran, which only makes Iran richer.
And, of course, they turned a blind eye to the sanctions that were put in place by Donald Trump, allowed them to take in hundreds of billions of dollars selling oil on the world market, granted waivers to the sanctions to allow Iraq to pay them $10 billion.
I mean, what is this money being used for?
To foment terror.
And all of this, it turns out, and believe me, I'm happy that any American prisoner is released.
I really am.
But at what price?
Now, we welcome back to the program, Alan Dershowitz.
He himself defended.
I don't know if you remember the case of Sharansky back in the day, but he helped negotiate his freedom, which frankly was an incredible feat at the time.
I know a lot of people may agree or disagree with whether or not you negotiate with terrorist states in terms of releasing, but he was involved in the Russian prisoner exchange of Anatoly Sharansky.
And anyway, it's great to have you back, Professor.
How are you?
Thanks, Tyree.
Really remember very clearly Thanksgiving Day of 1985.
I didn't spend it having turkey with my family.
I spent it negotiating with Wolfgang Vogel, the head trader of the East Germans on behalf of the Soviet Union.
If you saw the film Bridge of Spies, he was the central character in the Bridge of Spies, trading Powell, the American aviator who was shot down.
So I spent Thanksgiving Day negotiating the release of Anatoly Sharansky, tried to negotiate the release as well of Mandela, but AFC, the Mandela people, didn't want to have him part of a spy exchange, and so he stayed in prison.
But the negotiations over Sharansky were very fraught and very difficult.
And I'll never forget the day early in 1986 when I watched him cross the Gleineke Bridge in East Germany and walk to freedom.
And he threw his arms around me when I first literally laid eyes on him.
And he whispered in my ear the Hebrew blessing, Baruch Matir Asurim, blessed are those who free the imprisoned.
And when his wife asked me to defend him, she said she had one wish only, and that is that I get him out in time for her to have children.
And he got out when she was about 38 or 39 years old, and they had two children.
So it was a really memorable, probably, for me, the most satisfying case in my long, long, long career of defending mostly bad guys.
It's a pleasure occasionally to defend a good guy like Nettanja.
You do have a track record of defending some really notoriously bad people, but we won't go into all that today.
Look, I understand the pride that you've rightly taken that.
And I'm torn, Professor, and we've been friends a long time.
And I know Anatoly Saransky is a great man.
I understand that completely.
And I wanted this Wall Street Journal reporter and this U.S. Marine freed as well.
Part of the deal, though, is Putin wanted this guy, Krasikov.
He's a convicted murderer that Putin had been pushing to have freed since 2021.
Former intelligence officer, veteran of the Soviet-Afghan war, had shot and killed a rebel leader in Berlin Park, was serving a life sentence.
Now, a lot of countries had to sign off on this.
I just don't know if this encourages, at the end of the day, more hostage-taking.
You have to ask these questions, right?
What do you think?
And it does encourage more hostage-taking.
I have no doubt about it.
It's a difficult trade-off.
Look, if I had my way, if B.B. Natanez had his way, he wrote a book about it, and I wrote a book about it, saying never, ever, ever trade for hostages, never negotiate with terrorism.
If the world had accepted that, there would be less hostage-taking and less terrorism.
But the world has never accepted that.
Look what happened in the Olympics in 1972.
They arrested those bastards who had killed the 11 Israeli athletes.
And what happened?
The French?
Freedom.
The Germans freed them immediately, and they went on and did other things.
And, of course, Golda Meir then announced she was going to put a price on the head of every single one of the 11 people who had killed Israelis.
And they got all but one of them.
And I think that's.
And by the way, Professor, did you see the chanting during the Israeli national anthem?
I think it was before a soccer match, if I'm not mistaken, of Hall Hitler?
Did you see that?
I did see that.
And, you know, speaking of that, there's a real test now for Vice President Harris.
Today's Times and other articles have said there is tremendous, tremendous pressure on Harris not to name a Jew as her vice president.
And we're talking about Josh Shapiro.
You could like him, you can hate him.
If his name were John Smith, with the same views he has, because he has exactly the same views in Israel as all the other candidates and vice president.
But the hard left, the progressives, the wokes are all saying, don't pick a Jew.
Don't pick a Jew.
This is blatant anti-Semitism.
And if Harris decides not to pick him because he's a Jew, that disqualifies her from any notion.
Well, let me ask you, because how does Josh Shapiro reconcile her positions on Israel, her support of the squad, and frankly, she's the leader of it, and this pro-Hamas and anti-Semitic wing that does exist in the Democratic Party?
And if you don't agree with me, tell me, because I think it's very clear.
I mean, Michael Moore said, well, he was critical of the students that were taking over buildings, and he's against this, you know, what do you call it, BDS movement.
Yeah, look, there's no doubt that there is a group and a very large and growing group of anti-Semites, Jew haters within the Democratic Party.
And they're all coming out now saying no, Josh Shapiro, even though his views are the same as other non-Jews.
So it's critical that the Democrats marginalize these anti-Semites.
Instead, they seem to be adopting many of their views.
And if Harris gives into that and says, she's not going to say this overtly, I'm not going to nominate a man for vice president who's Jewish.
If that's what it turns out to be, she is disqualified as a person of morality and decency.
You can't do that.
You can't disqualify herself.
If she does that, would you vote for Trump?
I would certainly not vote for her.
I would certainly not vote for her.
If I came to the conclusion that she disqualified somebody because the squad said he's Jewish and we don't want a Jew as vice president, I could not bring myself to vote for her.
Look, I have no longer, I am no longer a member of the Democratic Party.
I'm Ronald Reagan when it comes to that.
I haven't left the Democrats.
The Democrats have left me.
That doesn't mean I don't vote for a Democrat from time to time.
I'm always going to pick the candidate who is either best or least worst.
So I'm not ready to make a decision about who I'm going to vote for.
But I can tell you I could never vote for a candidate who used religion as a basis for deciding who to be vice president.
You know, that used to be.
Well, it's pretty obvious it's going to be him.
And here's the indicators.
The first event with Kamala and our vice presidential pick is going to be in Philly on Tuesday, I believe it next week.
And it just broke that Josh Shapiro canceled his fundraising events this weekend in New York and in the Hamptons.
It sounds like that decision has been made.
You and I are old enough to remember when you could not be nominated as president because you're a Catholic, right?
Irish Catholic need not apply, Professor.
Believe me, I know that.
When I first came to Harvard, the only restriction we had at Harvard, Irish Catholics need not apply to be students or to be faculty members.
We had the greatest bias against Irish and Italian Catholics because Boston is a city of Irish and Italian Catholics.
And so there was massive discrimination, and I fought against it.
I fought against that kind of discrimination more than I fought against the Jewish discrimination because at Harvard in 1964, the anti-Catholic discrimination was much, much worse.
And you can't tolerate it for anybody.
And you cannot say that we're not going to nominate somebody just because they're Jewish.
And that will definitely affect my vote.
Quick break, right back more with Professor Alan Dershowitz on the other side.
All right, we continue now with this deal on KSM and Kamala Harris not wanting to use, and you have to show the courage not to use the word radical Islamic terrorism and this prisoner swap as we continue with the news of the day with Professor Alan Dershowitz.
I just wonder how does Josh Shapiro reconcile with Kamala's views?
Why didn't show up for Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech?
Why won't she support Israel's right to win their war against radical Islamic terrorism?
Why is she against using the phrase radical Islamic terrorism, saying that we need the courage not to use that word?
I mean, who attacked us on 9-11 and killed the equivalent of 40,000 Americans on October the 7th, Professor?
She's wrong about all of those things, and those are factors.
But I think somebody like Josh Shapiro would say, look, I can create a little bit of a balance and maybe, maybe push the ticket a little bit toward the center.
I'm not going to try to psychoanalyze Josh Shapiro, but all the candidates, Jewish or not Jewish, have the same problem.
If you're pro-Israel, you have to ask yourself a question, can I really work together with Kamala Harris?
Well, we'll see.
She's made some good statements about Israel.
Recently, the statement she made about Hezbollah was good.
She's made some very bad statements when she left the meeting with Natan Yeo.
And so I have an open mind.
You know, Trump said the other day, he said, people like Alan Dershowitz, who are Democrats and Jewish, you have to be out of your mind to vote to vote Democrat.
And I responded by saying, if you look into my mind, you'll see an open mind.
I'm waiting to see who earns my money.
I don't think there was ever a more pro-Israeli president of this country than Donald Trump.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
And I work closely with him on recognizing Jerusalem, on recognizing the Goanites.
I work closely with him.
And the West Bank and moving the embassy out of Tel Aviv to its rightful home in Jerusalem.
I was there when that happened.
And I work very closely with Jared Kushner, with the others.
And that's a tremendous plus for me.
And, you know, we'll see.
People may be surprised who I vote for in the end.
But for me, one of the litmus tests is you cannot be an anti-Semite, a bigot.
You cannot be somebody who says I agree with you.
But I'm going to say one last thing, and I have to run.
Let me tell you something.
By surrendering in the war on terror, I argue Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have blood on their hands.
By allowing 11 million unvetted, illegal immigrants into this country that have been murdering and raping innocent Americans, that's on them.
If another 9-11 happens, that blood will be on their hands too.
Am I wrong?
Is that too harsh?
I just hope that we never have another 9-11, and I think we have to fight back.
We have to stand united, united against terrorism.
And I want to be proud.
Oh, you're not allowed to say the words, Professor.
You can't.
You have to have the courage.
Islamic terrorists.
I want to say it over.
You're not being courageous.
You need to not say those words, Professor.
You're breaking the law.
You're breaking the rule.
Yeah, you know, she might tell me I can't use the wrong pronouns, but I'm going to say Islamic terrorists when they are terrorists.
I'm not going to call everybody who is a Muslim a terrorist.
Of course not.
They're a very word radical distinguishes the religion from those that have perverted it.
But I got to run.
Professor Alan Dershowitz, appreciate you being with us, my friend.
Thank you.
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I won't play it now.
You know, she will proudly put her immigration record up against Donald Trump's.
Really?
Because it's been a disaster and she's lied to us about it.
Let's just take a trip down memory lane because I think the most effective way to deal with Kamala Harris on any of these issues is to play her into her own words.
Something we couldn't do, for example, with Barack Obama.
He's like a blank slate.
Nobody knew much about him.
But here's Kamala telling Chuck Chod, Todd, along with Mayorkas and Biden for three years, oh, no, no, the border is closed and the border is secure.
Here's what she said.
Would you call the border secure?
I think that there is no question that we have to do what the president and I asked Congress to do is the first request we make, pass a bill to create a pathway to citizenship.
The border is secure, but we also have a broken immigration system.
We're going to have two million people cross this border for the first time ever.
You're confident this border is secure.
We have a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation, including ours in our administration.
But there are still a lot of problems that we are trying to fix.
And then we have Kamala Harris in a clip with Casey Hunt saying, oh, we've got to re-examine ICE and its role, which she's now flip-flopping on and saying, oh, we need to fund them more.
But that was not her position when she was running for president leading into 2020.
Here's what she said.
A lot of the signs at the rally you just held were people standing there saying, abolish ICE.
Yeah, is that a position that you agree with?
Listen, I think there's no question that we've got to critically reexamine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing.
And we need to probably think about starting from scratch because there's a lot that is wrong with the way that it's conducting itself.
And we need to deal with that.
And maybe one of my favorites of all time is that Kamala Harris said it's not criminal to enter the country illegally.
And she would say that she went on to say that she supports Medicare for all, free health care, courtesy of your tax dollars.
to people that didn't respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty, and free health care and education to illegal immigrants on top of her stating that she thinks we should, and I won't play that one, we should stop saying the words radical Islamic terrorism and stop saying the word illegal alien, but that we need the courage to do that.
Anyway, here's Kamala supporting a bill for free health care and free education to illegal immigrants.
The bill also says, quote, every individual who is a resident of the United States is entitled to benefits for health care services under this act.
Not every individual who's a citizen, but every individual who's a resident.
So you support giving universal health care, Medicare for all to people who are in this country illegally?
Let me just be very clear about this.
I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education, or public health, period.
If Americans know this record and hear her in her own words, Donald Trump will win this election.
I've been saying it all day because I believe it.
Anyway, joining us now is New York Congresswoman Claudia Tunney is with us to discuss this news on Harris.
You know, you actually sent out an ex-post.
We had this recent case out of Loudoun County, and I have a whole list that I scroll on television of all of the unvetted Joe Biden and Kamala Harris illegal immigrants that have killed people and that have been involved in rapes of even children.
And I scroll all these victims' names and names we never heard before.
Neither Harris nor Joe Biden have ever bothered to call these families or apologize that their policies caused this.
They bragged about getting rid of the Trump policies that worked.
In this case, you have a gentleman by the name of Jose Guayar Martinez, no fixed address, recently residing in Sterling, been charged with carjacking of felony.
He's being held at the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center on no bond.
And anyway, initially transported to the hospital following his arrest.
And here we go again, the illegal immigrant ends up killing this woman in Sterling, Virginia.
Now, are they going to apologize that their policies cause this?
Are they going to bear responsibility?
Are they going to continue to lie to us and say that the border is secure and the border is closed?
Are they going to call the families?
They never call Lake and Riley's family or Rachel Morin's family or Jocelyn Nungari's family or any of the other victims' families.
Anyway, Congresswoman, welcome back.
Your thoughts on all of us.
Thank you.
Well, Sean, you're doing exactly what we need to do.
We need to continue to go scorch earth on Kamala Harris's record in her own words, which are more devastating than anything, and that's what Americans will see.
Their record has caused so many unnecessary deaths, and they are unapologetic because they don't care.
They don't care about the American people.
And you can come to New York and see our northern border.
85% of the people on the terror watch list come across it, where New York welcomes illegal immigrants.
We tax our residents to death.
As you know, you left the state because of the taxes and the lack and the inability of the Democrats to keep us safe.
And Lake and Riley would be alive today if not for the Greenlight Law in New York, where we give out driver's licenses.
We refuse to allow our police to work together.
And I'll tell you who is one of my residents in my district in upstate New York, Tom Holman, former ICE director.
And he is a champion of what we need to do to secure this border.
And people need to understand it's deadly and it's costly.
It's both.
And these people are bringing down this country.
I am very, very worried.
But we've got to talk about Kamala's record.
Just talk about her record because I think you made an excellent point.
Who knew what Obama stood for?
He voted president on everything.
Now we've got someone who actually embraced all of these left-wing nut job type of ideas.
AOC, anything AOC or Bernie Sanders put out, she was grasping and taking that as her own.
I think that's really important that we continue to do that.
I agree, but it's on every issue.
Now she's trying to make a U-turn, and she's kind of flipping and flopping and flilling.
I want to get your reaction.
I mean, this is a woman that we know was against any fracking or any drilling, but now apparently she's saying she's for it.
She supported a mandatory gun buyback program.
I would call it confiscation.
Medicare for all, including free health care and education and housing for illegal immigrants.
Now she's saying that her border policy, she'll put it up against Donald Trump's any day.
And, you know, I play all these cuts, and I'm like, it's not rooted in reality.
We do have a problem, though, Congresswoman, and that is the media mob, state-run media, they don't want to vet her.
They're not playing the clips that we're playing.
I mean, there's a treasure trove of information about how radicalized she is.
I mean, I saw, what was it, Senator Kennedy of Louisiana was having a battle with Neil Cavuto on Fox News, you know, and he said, you know, she's a loon, and she's basically AOC without the bartending experience, you know, in his very humorous way.
But it makes a point.
I think she's to the left of AOC because she's to the left of Bernie Sanders.
She co-sponsored the Green New Deal in the U.S. Senate.
She co-sponsored Medicare for All that would eliminate health insurance, private health insurance for Americans.
I think you're right, Sean, but remember something.
The Democrats undermined their own Democratic process back in 2020 when it looked like Bernie Sanders, an independent communist, self-proclaimed communist, embracing that, could have been and would likely have been their nominee.
They forced Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar out in one day, tearfully crying about how they put their support behind Joe Biden.
That put him above Bernie Sanders, and he was forced to get out.
And now, guess what we have?
Someone worse, more far-left, more feckless.
And actually, I wouldn't even put her in the same category as Bernie Sanders.
She's so much worse than Bernie Sanders because she stands for nothing.
And that's what the problem is.
She will grasp any horrible ideology, whether it's communism, the Green New Deal, anti-fracking.
But what is she going to say when she goes to California?
Is she going to say she's anti-she's back for fracking after she just said in Pennsylvania, where fracking is giving people a chance to flourish and to prosper in the state of Pennsylvania?
I mean, look at us from New York.
We look at Pennsylvania as the free state of Pennsylvania compared to New York, and they're hardly a free state.
That's a Democratic state that we hopefully can win this year.
But I'm just saying.
By the way, they're stealing all of your natural gas because they allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
I mean, the odds on favorite right now is Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, how they're going to reconcile their differing views on Israel, the Middle East, on fracking is going to be interesting to watch.
I think you're right, though.
I think that we have got to talk about our issues.
Let's not talk about her personality or cackling or whatever it is.
Let's talk about her issues because that's the reason.
No, you can't ignore the giggling part of her.
You can't because it just shows how not serious she is.
Well, that is true, but her record is so bad.
It's literally the worst.
She's the most far-left, the most communist person ever to run, I think, and in a national, a major party in our country.
And she will make it, if people think they're suffering now under the disastrous policies under Joe Biden, it's going to get worse.
It's going to be more expensive, and our world is going to be more dangerous.
And we will, I don't know if the United States, as we know it, the freedom that we were given and granted by our founders that's so hard to preserve.
I don't know if it's reversible if this woman would be elected as the president of the United States.
Congresswoman, I left the state of New York.
And when I left, I was kind of surprised it made as much news as it did, or when I sold my house that it was such a big deal to people.
It was ridiculous to me.
However, I mean, I left.
I've been back very few days, no workdays this year, and I have nothing to do with the state of New York anymore.
And I will argue that the last two governors, including the current governor, basically said, if you're conservative, get the hell out of here.
Get on a bus.
Go down to Florida where you belong.
Lee Zeldon, conservatives, or Andrew Cuomos saying, you know, these conservatives.
They are pro-life.
They are pro-assault weapon.
They are anti-gay, and I'm not anti-gay.
They have no place in New York.
They're not New Yorkers.
I mean, they took the hint, Congresswoman.
I really am not wanted there.
What's happened, Sean, is I would advise you not to come back.
Remember Rush Limbaugh, the late great Rush Limbaugh, he didn't like to come back to New York because he thought they might prosecute him.
With as lawless and as despicable a prosecutor as we have, the Attorney General Letitia James, who should be disbarred, removed from office immediately for malicious prosecution, engaging in law affair, not just against Trump, but everyone across the state under siege, after our fire departments, after everyone that she can get.
Don't dare come across the border into New York because she's going to find a way to attach some kind of lawsuit against you.
And I think what New Yorkers are.
I'm not going back.
And that's the thing.
I went back for my sister's birthday party on a weekend and turned around and went right home.
That's about it.
People, they're out of control.
And I'm sitting here with a bunch of fire departments worried about being under siege by Letitia James and our federal government.
I don't see.
See, I even said this to Lee Zeldon.
I said, if you would have run in a different year, I think you could win.
I mean, if you would have run 10 years ago, I think Lee Zeldon ran a good enough campaign that he could have been governor.
I think I don't know if there's a tipping point for California or New York.
I think New Jersey's more likely to be in play than either one of those states, but I don't know if you, I mean, this is what they want to do to the country.
They've ruined these states, and now they want to implement these policies nationwide, which will ruin the country.
But I've got to run.
Congressman Claudia Tenney, we're going to be watching your race as well.
You've been doing a great job for the people in New York.
I still love my friends there, and they all want to come down here, almost all of them.
Appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, 800-941, Sean is our number if you want to be a part of the program.
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