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Secrets of the Secret Service - July 15th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we can confirm the first interview with Donald Trump's vice presidential selection will be with yours truly tonight on Hannity on the Fox News channel, DVR.
By the way, Monday through Friday, 9 Eastern, so you never, ever, ever, ever miss an episode of Hannity.
I hope you'll watch.
I mean, these are consequential times for sure.
It is an inflection point of all inflection points, 113 days until Election Day, 63 days until early voting begins.
And we just have a lot going on on top of the selection of JD Vance as President Trump's vice presidential selection.
I will tell you, and I know it's going to be hard if you've just watched the state-run media mob, and all they're going to want to talk to JD Vance about is simple.
And that is, they're going to only want to talk to him about abortion.
They're going to want to talk to him, what about this controversial comment?
What about you hated Trump back in 2016?
You know, my answer to all of this, and I had conversations with a lot of people because I have a lot of sources everywhere.
Part of my job as a talk show host, a member of the press, is to have contacts and not have my private text messages made public as they so often are, which, by the way, violates my privacy, but not that anybody seems to ever care.
But I look at this whole thing and I'm just telling you, it's not going to matter.
Whatever you hear is not going to matter.
If you look at this man and his background and his life to grow up in poverty, to have a mother addicted to drugs and alcohol, and a father in jail, and to have a grandmother who steps in that didn't particularly have a great life or education,
and to go into the Marine Corps and serve in Iraq at a time of war, and to come out and get a college degree at Ohio State to make it to Yale Law School, to make it to the top of your class, to fight and get into the U.S. Senate and still be as young as he is and have a political evolution.
Well, you used to hate Trump.
And I'll ask him all of this tonight.
There's nothing that's off the table.
And we'll go through all of it because that's just simply the right thing to do.
And it's my job.
And might as well, you know, the media is that's all they're going to focus on.
But it's a pretty amazing story.
And it's an American story.
And it's the American dream story.
You know, somebody, you know, recently took pictures of me and I had a wad of cash in my hand.
Now, Linda, have you ever seen me?
I'm so old school.
Have you ever seen me?
And I've had this since I was 12, 13 years old in school.
Ask John Gomez.
He could never understand all the cash I would carry because I'd work, you know, washing dishes, you know, being a cook, busboy, waiter, bartender, all this.
He never understood.
Where does all this money come from?
It drives me crazy.
I see my kids all the time.
I'm like, do you have any cash on you?
No, they never have cash on them.
And it drives me up a wall.
Now, why do I, Linda?
Why do I carry cash?
You've been around me a long time.
Why do I carry cash?
We believe in rewarding good behavior with money.
And in the form of what?
It's called a tip.
Oh, and for those that work in an industry that involves tipping, Donald Trump doesn't want to tax your tips.
Unlike, unlike that cognitive mess of a president named Joe Biden, that guy.
So, you know, and I'm like, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this.
And I have, what was I wearing?
A black long-sleeve t-shirt.
I think you were wearing what you're wearing today, which I was going to ask you about.
Which is a little weird.
Did you wash that?
I have 19 of these shirts.
I don't have.
That sounds like something somebody who didn't wash something would say, actually.
Yeah, I mean, when I'm on the road, I don't wash my clothes.
They don't have, what do you want me to go down to the local wash and dry or call in a good thing?
This next guess is by the wash and fluff service.
I'm going to get to the next one.
How do you say you weren't getting to him?
I was just saying he didn't have to smell you like the rest of us.
So it's going to be, and for those of you that wanted other people, let me just say this.
And this is why I decided early on, I did weigh in and I gave, you know, my gut instinct, people that I liked.
And I was very specifically asked by people, who do you want?
People that I think it would have mattered to, not saying who, and I said, it's not my call.
They said, that's President Trump's call.
That's President Trump's call because he's going to have to work with that person.
I would argue that the team of Trump Pence was a great combination for four years up until the end.
Prior to that point, they worked well together.
They just did.
Linda's rolling her eyes, but they did.
I'm just going to say for the record, I went on the record.
Then I go on the record now.
We had our choice.
No, forget about it.
I like Newt Ginkrich.
At the time, my choice was more pretty outspoken, Newt.
It's a whole big story about that.
That was in the public.
We still love Newt.
Newt was on TV with me last night.
So, anyway, but let me go to our other top story.
And it was rough on a personal level.
I've known Donald Trump for 30 years.
I knew him long before he ever got into politics.
I wish the person that I knew everybody knew.
He is by far one of the funniest people you will ever be around when you compare stories with him.
I mean, the exchanges we have and the way that we have them, it would shock the world when, but when I'm not in work mode with him, because when it's work time, I've got to do an interview.
It's going to be a real interview.
And I ask him real questions that matter.
And he's generous to a fault, trusting to a fault.
And he is, you know, people wonder why he fights so much because he's been so unfairly targeted.
There's my answer.
And if he doesn't fight, you know, he wouldn't be standing today.
And I believe that's true.
And things got so out of hand.
We saw the assassination attempt.
When I first saw it, my heart sunk.
I thought they killed him.
I thought they killed him.
It was a headshot.
This was this individual, and now there's a part of me that praises the Secret Service that were around him, that dove on him and tackled him.
I'm sure he was probably bruised in that process.
And I did talk to him.
I did ask him about it.
And I just, I think that was more of a private conversation than one that I want to bring public.
That's his story to tell.
And so that part of the Secret Service, I love.
I've gotten to know these guys over the years from the Bush administration and the Trump administration.
I've known them.
These are wonderful people.
They are, you know, they're people that are taking on a job that they know that they may have to die for somebody.
And it's an incredible, you have to be an incredible person to want to do that.
And how it's possible.
They talk about, well, it was outside the perimeter.
Well, the perimeter would be any location where anybody would ever have any ability to fire a weapon and hit a target.
That's the perimeter.
And how this roof was left unguarded, where this lunatic gets on there, and why we don't know more at this point, I don't know, scares me.
And how did it happen?
Because this is a failure of monumental proportions.
I have been saying, and apparently it's just been announced, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is now getting Secret Service protection.
A little late, Joe.
I had been calling for that for how long?
Because I don't agree with on issues with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
His father was assassinated.
His uncle was assassinated.
His name makes him a target.
And so, and I, how many times when Obama was president, we must protect our president and our elected officials.
I've repeated that often.
Anyway, joining us now is Gary Byrne.
He wrote the book, Secrets of the Secret Service: The History and the Uncertain Future of the Secret Service, served in federal law enforcement for nearly 30 years from the U.S. Air Force Security Police Uniform Division of the Secret Service and as a federal air marshal.
Anyway, he wrote this best-selling book.
And in this book, he tells the story about the secrets of the Secret Service.
And he joins us now.
Gary, how is it possible from 130 yards, this shooter had access?
That is, to me, rudimentary security.
How did that happen?
Complete failure, Sean.
You're right.
The Secret Service agents or parts of the Secret Service worked pretty well that day.
Where they failed is they failed years ago because they adopted this mentality.
Sean, if the head of that detail said he needed 100 people, they'd send them no more than 60.
And they worked those people into the ground.
The reason that building was outside of the area is because they didn't have the manpower for it.
It's ridiculous.
I've talked about this many a times.
I've talked about it with you and other people.
The Secret Service management system is horrendous.
And they clearly are being manipulated now by politics.
The head of the Secret Service's detail requested more security, more counter-sniper.
I have never, ever seen an event where they had one counter sniper team for a former president, especially somebody as popular of a leader as Donald Trump is.
It's insane, and they're begging somebody to kill this man, and it almost happened.
You had predicted in 2018, I believe we had this interview, and I asked you about it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, that something is likely to happen.
I bet it's a prediction you wish you were wrong about.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I wish I was wrong.
And I wish more people in the Secret Service at the time, listen, I know they read this book.
I got phone calls.
They're running around the hallways, the headquarters, screaming my name, cuffing at me, how dare I say this, or whatever, or talk about what happened.
Because, listen, you said it yourself, we're good people when we get there.
But the problem is, is we get there, and that agency has all the problems of the IRS and the Postal Service and then some.
And the best thing that they do is hide behind the name Secret Service.
And there's no legal ramification for it.
Well, I mean, it's to me, this is so rudimentary and so basic and fundamental.
I'm just shocked that any president or presidential candidate or former president could ever be that vulnerable.
You know, the only thing we have going for us is Donald Trump turned his head because it pierced his ear.
It came within a millimeter or two of assassinating him.
And I was saying this Saturday night, you know, you go, he doesn't turn his head.
This would have been very different coverage that I would be a part of Saturday night.
No, you're 100% right.
And it's heartbreaking.
And something else you pointed out, whether it's Donald Trump or the other candidate for the Democrats, Kennedy, whoever it is, they need this protection.
And they don't need the name Secret Service.
They need the, and not the reputation of the Secret Service.
They need people.
They need a director that can give them the manpower that they need.
You can't send 50 people to do the job of 100.
You can't expect one counter sniper team to observe a 360-degree area by themselves.
It's not possible.
They had no counter-sniper response.
But they had people in the audience pointing out this guy before they saw him himself, apparently.
I know.
I saw the video.
And that's the point I'm getting to.
Part of the problem for this counter-sniper officer technician who took the shot eventually is that it is very common.
And I knew many of these guys and helped train with them years ago when I was in the Secret Service Uniform Division.
There are times when they're doing these details and they're looking through their binoculars in their rifle.
And they see somebody on a secure building.
Now, when you see somebody, the first thing you think of, okay, it's local law enforcement.
And that's what I'm saying I believe happened here.
This guy was not 100% sure that this person wasn't local law enforcement.
And, you know, because the clothing he had on was similar to the clothing that the local either Sheriff's Department or Police Department was wearing because you saw them in the background in different shots.
And they weren't 100% sure.
And the problem is, is the building was never properly secured.
There should have been Secret Service personnel on that building, that building and a couple others that were, you know, the range.
Any building, I mean, these rifles have a range of, you know, never mind 130 yards.
They have 600, 800 yards, and even further.
That's the perimeter.
Am I wrong?
No, you're right.
Just to give you an idea, listen, when I was in the Secret Service Uniform Division, these guys that I knew, they used to play a game.
They'd go out to Fort Meade on the 1,000-yard range, and they would shoot bowling pins at 800 yards.
One shot, blow a bowling pin up.
That's the accuracy of these guys.
Now, you take the average hunter with any caliberable bold action rifle, or even this guy supposedly had an AR-15.
An AR-15 with a 20-inch barrel is a 500-meter weapon, easily.
Easily.
If we don't learn these lessons, we're going to end up with dead elected officials.
We better fix this.
And instead of spending all this money on Ukraine, maybe we ought to first protect our elected officials.
Anyway, Gary, appreciate you being with us, my friend Gary Byrne.
The secrets of the secret service, the history and uncertain future of the U.S. Secret Service.
We better get to the bottom of this by the end of the week.
There's no, I would not wait any longer.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
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I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
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Driving the liberals nuts.
Sean Hannity is back on the radio right now.
I'm 25 to the top of the hour.
We are in beautiful Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Many, many thanks to everybody who has been giving food ideas.
I'm watching Linda just suck down one chicken wing after another.
I tell you, I can't get enough, man.
Can't get enough.
Kicking my fingers.
It's getting into it.
I'm down with these cheese heads.
No, you're not.
Oh, yes, I am.
No, you're not because you didn't even know what you didn't know last week what a cheese head was.
Yeah, and here I am today.
Look how far we've come in a week.
Amazing.
Me and Milwaukee.
No, you say Milwaukee.
No, say the way you say it.
I say it the right way.
All right, what is it?
Milwaukee.
Milwaukee.
Singapore.
Homage.
When in Rome.
Homage.
How do you say homage?
Homage.
Homage.
And that's how you really talk.
That's not how I really talk.
That's how the word is said.
It's not up to me.
You know, this wasn't such an insane news day.
I could spend the rest of the show.
It's actually good to have a little levity because everything is so awful.
If you're just joining us, JD Vance, Ohio Senator JD Vance is now vice presidential candidate JD Vance says he's been selected by President Trump.
He'll be on Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel for what will be his first televised interview since the appointment.
We're looking forward to it.
His life story is amazing.
Of course, the left predictably will, they're already attacking him.
I mean, it's just, I watch the media, and they're just so predictable.
The media, no problem.
Mar-a-Lago, $18 million.
No, a rudimentary perusal of real estate in Palm Beach would show it's a billion-dollar property or close to it, maybe more even.
They didn't seem to have any problem with 51 former Intel agents all lying about a laptop that they knew nothing about, that they never saw ever, not one time, as a means of giving cover to Joe Biden at a talking point prior to a debate with Donald Trump in the lead up to the 2020 election.
They didn't care about Hillary Clinton's dirty Russian disinformation dossier.
They didn't care at all about that.
They didn't care that Hillary had top secret classified information, that Joe Biden had top secret classified information, and that the only place to get raided was Mar-a-Lago.
That case is now out.
Thank God.
They didn't care about any of these things.
You have a corrupt, state-run media mob.
They got the Russia collusion wrong.
You know, we had not one.
We had four FISA warrants based on that dirty disinformation dossier.
I mean, this is insanity on every level.
It really is.
And it's such a double standard.
Cheap fake videos three weeks later.
Oh, Joe's got to go.
He's a cognitive mess.
We've been showing Joe is a cognitive mess for four straight years.
They are liars.
It's state-run media provda.
We have an information crisis in this country.
It is repulsive.
They're corrupt to the core.
The idea that, you know, oh, I forgot to bring this up.
Did you see what they did over at MSDNC?
MSDNC today pulled liberal Joe and Mika off the air.
Now, they claim that they chose to instead continue in breaking news coverage of the shooting and its aftermath.
The show's ex-account told followers Sunday that the show would return on Tuesday, inviting viewers to tune into NBC Anyway for more coverage of the attempt on the former president's life, the decision to bench the politics roundtable show days after the party's presumptive nominee,
the Republican Party nominee, Donald Trump, had a brush with death, and a source familiar with the decision said that they were acts from this show.
Here management didn't trust putting him on the air, and that they're even saying that they did it to prevent a potential situation in which one of the programs' guess hosts, maybe?
Yes, would in fact make inappropriate comments that could be used to criticize the show or the network, and that the decision was reportedly made by NBC Universal News Group.
The chairperson, Cesar Conde, I don't know who this person is, in conjunction with the MSDNC president, Rashida Jones, as well as Morning Joe host, Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski.
No host wants that decision.
That was their way of saving face.
I'm just speaking as an industry insider.
That is my humble opinion.
Now, given the gravity and complexity of this unfolding story, NBC News, NBC News Now, and MSDNC have remained in rolling breaking news coverage since Saturday evening.
A spokesperson for NBC Universal News Group told fake news CNN as we continue to cover this story into the week.
The networks will continue to cross-simul cast, alternating between NBC News, NBC News Now, and MSDNC Reports.
So there is one news feed covering this developing situation.
So basically, it's an admission here.
Is this not a tacit admission that they don't think that Joe and Mika can control themselves?
Things have been getting very tense on that show.
Now, I've never understood how anybody could ever watch that show, and not a lot of people really do watch that show.
But the fact that anybody watches the show is pretty unbelievable.
It's three, well, I guess they extended it four hours.
I'm not just, I hate Trump.
I hate Trump.
I hate Trump more than you.
I double hate Trump.
No, I triple hate Trump.
I hate Trump.
I quadruple hate Trump.
I hate Trump more than any of you all combined hate Trump.
I hate Trump so much so that I'm consumed in my whole life with hating Trump because that's all the show is.
And you have a bunch of intellectual lightweights that think that they're intellectuals, and they're not.
And they are talk show hosts.
The irony of all ironies, they like fake Jake.
And okay, he was pressured into doing a fair debate.
That's how I describe it.
In my view, he was pressured into it based on all of his own comments about Donald Trump that make him a liberal talk show host that pretends to be a journalist.
They're not journalists.
I don't claim to be a journalist.
I'm a talk show host.
I'm a member of the press.
I can produce thousands and thousands of hours, including some this weekend, of breaking news coverage, straight news on radio, on TV.
We do investigative reporting.
We got the Russia hoax, right?
We weren't running cheap fake videos.
We were running real videos.
We got the issue of Hunter's laptop correct.
We got all of these, the dirty disinformation Russian dossier, the FISA case.
We got it all right.
They get it all wrong, and there's never any consequences for any of them.
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Now, we've talked about JD Vance.
He will join us on Hannity tonight.
We've talked about the assassination attempt against President Trump.
Will say this.
I had a couple of conversations with Donald Trump.
I considered those conversations off the record.
But I feel comfortable enough to be able to say this much.
The guy that got up, the Secret Service wanted to carry him out.
He's like, hell no, that's not happening.
The guy that got up and he took his fist and he slammed it in the air, his fist pump in the air and a fist pump in the air and said, fight, fight.
That's the guy I have known for 30 years.
That is quintessentially him.
It is now iconic.
And when you compare and contrast that image in that moment where he's at that store, one millimeter, two millimeters, it's over.
Sensei and I have been spending a lot of time talking about it.
And then he starts getting on me about my personal safety and security.
You want to talk about this at some point during the week?
Well, go ahead.
You can get on the mic.
And he starts talking about me.
And he goes, What have I been telling you?
What have I been telling you?
You know, first thing he argued, which he was wrong about, and I think he'll admit it now, is that he wasn't sure that I was making the right choice when I left New York for good permanently before the end of last year.
Yes, I definitely left.
I questioned that choice, and you're winning.
You're definitely winning.
I'm winning on that choice.
You're winning on that choice, no question.
I've been in New York fewer than 10 days this year.
Let's put it that way.
And only for like a family.
My sister had a 70th birthday party this weekend, and my godson's wife, who's expecting a child, had a baby shower.
But I brought my daughter to it, so I had to be up there, and it was horrible to be back.
It stinks the same way it did when I left.
But we've been training, what, 14 years now?
14 years.
Yes.
And I think I'm your best student.
You tell me that every day.
I tell you that every day.
Yes.
Yeah.
You are doing.
And we train now remotely, or you do have a place that you go down to in Florida.
Correct.
Sean is, I'll tell everyone who is listening, Sean is very dedicated.
Obviously, you can see it in his life from everything he does.
When he chose to do this about 14 years ago, and he was moving.
And you were wondering if I was going to quit in the beginning.
That's correct.
Actually, 14 years ago, the person introduced us, we both had that conversation whether you were going to quit, and he stayed with it.
He's a dedicated guy, and the proof isn't a problem.
And I suffered that.
He's strong, and he can protect himself.
And we do a lot of, this is our art.
We do situational self-defense.
We do also personal fitness.
We do core.
We do hundreds of push-ups, sit-ups every day.
It's an annoying amount.
We do lift.
We do sticks, blades, firearms, an eclectic blend of arts, Krav Maga, Kenbo, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, and situational street fighting.
And it's a level that nobody else really teaches.
And I kind of gave, I gave up the belt system because people are like, what both of you?
And what I've discovered is a lot of these dojos or places, these belts are kind of meaningless because if I can kick your ass and you're telling me what a great black belt you are, you're not such a great black belt.
Yes.
You really don't.
Anyone, look, it is a good accomplishment.
It's a great accomplishment if that is the route you're choosing to do with your training.
We changed that a couple of years ago, five years ago, because we're focusing on particularly your self-defense and your street awareness, situational awareness.
And obviously, you've dedicated yourself to get to a brown belt second degree.
I did.
Did I kind of get, I'm like, well, to get to the next level, all right, just to get through the brown belt second degree test, let me tell you, you're there for hours, and you have to remember and study, which I like, really, I have no time for this.
True.
And the next part of it is, then you have all these younger guys that are really, really dedicated martial artists, and I have to fight them.
And I'm getting the hellbeat out of me.
And I have to remember how to do every single thing on command at a second's notice, or else I'll fail the test.
Hence the name test.
Yeah, it's a test.
And by the way, you're a tough grader.
I am.
You're a pain in the neck, to be honest, on that front.
It's all good.
Now, we kid around on air, but when we're in the dojo, when we're in the dojo, you're the sensei.
We bow in, we bow out, we bow to any training partners we have, and we treat it with great respect.
And you do.
You're a great representative of training in the arts.
And obviously, with our friendship for the last 14 years and continuing training, sometimes I look and where am I going to take this guy?
But he's so dedicated to it and he stuck with it, even with the move and training virtually.
He gets a two-hour session in every day training virtually.
And I come down every seven, eight weeks, every six to seven weeks, and we train.
And I'm with you now.
I am stronger.
I am a harder at this age in my life than I have ever been in my life.
I can safely say in the last 14 years, you're clearly the most fit, definitely the strongest you've been since I've met you.
And you can tell you're dedicated.
But what you really have taught me more than anything, we kid around a lot, but what you really have taught me is I don't want to ever use what you have taught me.
Yes.
And I say that so sincerely.
I don't ever, I have said to people, and I've told you about different confrontations, sadly, that I've had.
One of the reasons I got out of New York is I felt unsafe.
I couldn't go to a restaurant with friends and feel like I didn't have the capacity of creating a flash mob in a short period of time.
Yes.
And I never want to have to use my hands or any of I'm a Second Amendment guy.
Everybody knows that.
Or even my burner.
By the way, I got you a burner.
You like it.
You like your job.
I do.
It's an incredible thing.
Non-leave.
It's an option.
It is an option.
It's an option.
But I don't ever want to use it.
And that's what you've taught me.
And you're like, okay, we're not going to tell everybody my nickname in the dojo.
Psycho.
I didn't say that.
Because when I train, I train that hard.
I train real.
We call keeping it real.
Yes.
I mean, just recently, we almost thought you broke your ribs.
Yeah, because you can't control yourself.
The first thing you said, I got to go to work.
I got to go to work.
I'm like, because my back snapped.
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