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Biden Numbers in Free Fall - July 8th, Hour 2
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We are only 119 days away till Election Day, an inflection point for our country, for the world.
Only 70 days until early voting begins.
The first day Pennsylvania rolls out from there.
And less than that when it comes to whether or not the Democrats will decide whether to keep Joe Biden on the ticket or not.
Here's David Axelrod.
This was Obama's main, main political guru saying that Biden is not winning this race.
Listen.
It's just there are certain immutable facts of life, and those were painfully obvious on that debate stage.
And the president just doesn't seem to come to, he hasn't come to grips with it.
He's not winning this race.
He's more likely, if you just look at the data and talk to people around the country, political people around the country, it's more likely that he'll lose by a landslide than win narrowly this race.
And if the stakes are as large as he says, and I believe they are, then he really needs to consider what the right thing to do here is.
How many more people have to tell him?
Here's James Carville, one of the top advisors to Bill Clinton.
We have a country that 72% wants something different.
If the Democratic Party can't produce something different that 72% people want, then why do we exist?
What are we here for?
I mean, the country is clamoring for change.
And what are we going to offer them?
The same stuff?
It doesn't make any sense, Jake.
Give the people what they want.
Box populi.
They want something different.
Let's give it to them.
I mean, I just don't get the whole thing.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm from Buxton.
You know, everybody saw what they saw Thursday night.
I don't take any pleasure in this.
This was a year ago.
I'm going to be 80 in October.
You can't fight this stuff.
It's just there.
Michael Moore, filmmaker, calling it something we have mentioned and got criticized for, a form of elder abuse.
The problem here is that I think there's a form of elder abuse going on here where the Democratic Party and the people, the people that are part of the apparatus pushing and pushing him, pushing him to stay.
And then he comes out and he says, I'm staying.
And the family says I'm staying.
And I don't know about you, Amon, but in spite of my criticisms of Al Gaza with Biden, watching the debate a week ago was heartbreaking.
And it was like, imagine it was your father up there.
What would you want to?
I'm thinking, why isn't anybody doing anything?
Why didn't they do it?
Why did they even let him go out on the stage in this condition?
Who's looking out for him?
Who's looking out for him right now?
Why didn't any of these people state what we had been telling you back since the before the election in 2020?
Now, my Cracker Jack staff here on radio actually went through comments I've made on this program.
The timeframe is July 2020 through October 2020 about how Joe Biden is not mentally fit for the hardest job in the world.
And I said then, and have been more than proven right time and time and time again, that the media has been covering for him the entire time.
It's not like they didn't see what was so evident, self-evident to anybody with eyes to see.
But this is just this show.
But think of the timeframe, July 2020 through October 2020.
Listen.
Everybody I talk to or I run into in my daily life, they ask me about what the hell's going on with Biden?
You know, you're like the only one reporting it, but we can see something's off.
Just think for a minute.
It's the hardest job in the world.
And the mob, the media, they just, they allow this guy to just get away with answering no questions.
They let this guy get away with putting a lid on his campaign at 9, 10 every single morning, every other morning.
And Joe doesn't want to do events.
It's unbelievable.
How do you say you want to lead the country and you don't have the strength, the stamina, or frankly, the cognitive strength to take on the rigors of what is the hardest job in the world?
We will ultimately get the government we deserve.
And either you're going to vote for a guy that clearly is struggling cognitively, that has no strength, no stamina, is not up to the job.
I wouldn't hire Joe Biden to run a gas station or a Mini Mart or a 7-Eleven or a busy McDonald's.
Forget it.
You know, what is that again, that order of fries and a shake?
Okay.
Now, hang on a second.
What's that order again?
It would be a disaster.
And we're going to give him the hardest job in the world to be the leader of the free world.
Does he have the strength, the stamina, the mental alertness and acumen for the hardest job in the world, the leader of the free world?
I don't see it.
I see frail and weak Joe Biden.
I think they realize that if he had a fastball, it's long gone.
They're only two hours late.
This press conference.
It's supposed to start at 2.30.
Oh, 3.30, 4.30, 4.50.
Okay.
Can we talk about what's being discussed right now?
You want to take a stab?
I got a couple of questions.
I mean, I don't think I've been saying, and I'm very clear about this.
I question whether or not Biden has the strength and stamina, the mental alertness, the mental acuity needed for the hardest job in the world.
He looks frail and tired to me.
Maybe he needed a hot cocoa and a nappy.
Or maybe they're saying, Nel, remember her name.
What's her name?
What is it?
Tamala Harris.
Tamala Harris.
Anyway, joining us now, I think the funniest part of that was Linton.
Could we talk about this for a second?
Can we talk about it?
We're still talking about it four years later.
You've got a little self-conscious because your accent is slightly diminished because I keep pointing it out.
All credit to you.
Anyway, we welcome to the program.
Our friends, our pollsters, Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, Robert Cahaley, Trafalgar Group.
Guys, I don't even know if we can go over polls accurately now when we don't know who the candidate is going to be.
I stand by everything I said before the 2020 election.
I've been more than proven right.
But what frustrates me more than anything is they all knew.
They all saw it.
They all witnessed it.
They all covered for it.
And they, you know, up just a couple of weeks before this debate, they were talking about cheap fake videos that were very real.
Matt Tower.
Oh, yes.
Well, you had this nailed.
I've been doing this show many years with you, and you had this nailed from the very beginning.
And to be honest with you, it's 50-50 as to whether I'm going to have to eat a big plate of crow because you kept saying Biden would be replaced, and I said he wouldn't.
And we're at an inflection point.
I want to make this very clear.
Well, I wasn't, no, let me be clear, too, because I didn't say he would be.
I saw the possibility that he could be.
And I always said that he's really one big fall away from being replaced, and maybe one big debate fall is what defines it.
I just poo-pooed it, though.
But I want to say one quick thing, and then I'm sure Robert will chime in as well.
Let me tell you what I think is going on right now, Sean.
The one thing that could move Biden out of office is that her interview, the special counsel's interview with Biden, if that tape actually comes out, we're much like we were back in Watergate, and I said this the night of the debate on Fox Nation, that we're going to be where we were with Watergate, where you had transcripts at one time, and then you had a tape.
And if that tape ever comes out, that's going to be the end of it.
Now, I don't think the Republicans are smart to be pushing to get that tape out because I think Robert, and I'll let him speak for himself.
I think we both think that Harris is a bigger challenge for Trump than Biden is right now because he's so wounded.
Get your take, Robert Cahilly.
Yeah, I couldn't be doing more.
I mean, I think people see the Harris of the last three years.
They go back and look at the Harris who ran for Senate, the competitive primary, her boxer seat, and how well she campaigned, the Harris's attorney general, the Harris that questioned Kavanaugh.
That's a completely different person than who we've seen.
She's capable of being the other, and she's capable of calling back a lot of the gains that Trump has made in the minority community.
But I think the Democrats have settled into the fact that it's going to be a fight, and they're preparing, even if it's Biden, to do the things it takes to win this fight.
You just saw Wisconsin drop boxes everywhere, and this is the beginning.
But they're going to do what it takes to win this fight, even if it's Biden.
That I agree with.
And I'll tell you something.
Everybody needs to take a pause here and take a very close look at what has just been unfolding in Europe and in Great Britain and in France.
And we thought the conservatives were going to be taking power in France, and that did not happen.
Now, there are reasons for it.
They have a very odd, strange voting system.
You vote, you have your first round of voting.
It looked like Le Pen was going to win.
And then all of a sudden, all these other candidates drop out or were pressured to drop out.
And then they consolidate behind either the liberal candidate or Macron party candidate member.
And lo and behold, it doesn't become the landslide victory that they thought.
I don't want anybody for a second in this country to be complacent and think that Joe Biden can't win or Kamala Harris can't win, Matt.
Well, yeah, you can't be complacent because as Robert alluded to just a moment ago, if Harris becomes the nominee, then a lot of that black vote, which has been shifting either to undecided or somewhere else, and some to Trump, could come back.
And that's critical for the Democrats in these swing states like Georgia and Michigan and Pennsylvania.
So that could be a real game changer if that were to take place.
Now, she has her own set of problems.
And I've never seen a party when it's in total turmoil like this.
By the way, one of the biggest problems she has is she covered up.
She's known about this also.
And the other problem is she's been hand in hand with every failed policy he has.
Yeah, and also, as I would say, I rarely have seen an instance where a party is in turmoil like this, infighting at this level, and then they somehow come together and win.
Robert's right.
And that is I'm as concerned as ever about votes.
For example, I've mentioned it before.
In Arizona, a federal judge says you can't ask where somebody's from.
That means people can't.
And in fact, I believe the Attorney General said just last week they will do everything they can to make sure that people are not asked about citizenship or proof of citizenship to vote.
Now, if that's really the case, then you can pretty much figure out what the game plan is.
I don't know if it's a game plan, but it's certainly something to be concerned about in these swing states.
So there are a lot of other reasons why these could be closer races than we've seen in the polls right now.
But as far as the polls go, Donald Trump, he's having the best time he's had in ages, in every way possible.
But that was even pre-debate.
And that has consistently been the case.
And I think Americans, I really think that they were looking to see if their gut instincts were correct, that Joe's not up to the job.
I don't think that Joe did much to help himself with Stephanopoulos on Friday, Robert Cahaley.
Absolutely.
But one of the things that I think that Republicans are missing is that Biden's numbers do not reflect as much a rejection of Biden policies as they do he's too old because Republicans or Democrats both professing the same policies are having a harder time.
So the Republicans who are sitting back and thinking this thing looks great need to understand they have not built the coalition of public opinion against the policies because they see an artificial number that's based on Biden's age.
We need to start defining the policy so no matter who they nominate, they have a problem.
This complacency because of high poll numbers is very detrimental.
All right, quick break more with upholsters, Matt Towery, Robert Cahaley, and then your calls coming up.
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We continue with Matt Towery and Robert Cahaley.
I really don't care who they put in there.
I don't think anything's going to change because I don't think Joe's been in control the years he's been president, Matt Towery.
People have asked me more times than I can count, you know, who's really making the decisions here.
And I would say it's the Apparatchik.
It's, you know, all these, you know, puppeteers behind the scene, they're still going to be there making those decisions and guiding Kamala Harris or whoever.
And what if Kamala picks a swing state governor like Gretchen Whitmer?
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
I don't think any of that's going to change.
I do agree with Robert about one thing, and that is Republicans assume that the public is as worked up about the issues that Republicans, that core Republicans are.
And we've seen time and time again that the average person, a lot of people didn't even watch it.
A lot of people watched the debate.
That was really their first exposure, as you noted.
But some people got their news on that from secondary sources, and it happens to be negative news because now you have the liberal media turning on Biden.
But they'll turn just as quickly as soon as they know who the Democrat is.
They'll turn just as quickly in the other direction.
And I just think the Republicans, I agree completely with Robert.
Where are the ads in the swing state?
Where are we talking about the actual issues?
Where are the things that are going to coalesce around Donald Trump if he's going to win?
And I think a little bit of this has started.
I saw a little bit when I was in Atlanta for the debate, but not a lot.
And you get to know what's going on.
941 Sean is our number.
Well, fortunes are going to swing my way, and I've got it.
Because as soon as you think they do, they swing the other way.
Yeah, I agree.
Robert, we'll give you the last word today.
How do they make the pivot?
Because I think that's the important pivot.
I don't care who they pick.
I don't think anything's changing.
As a matter of fact, I know nothing will change, and America's decline will continue.
And I'm not sure if we can recover.
There's no question.
The fact is, though, that Biden is unpopular because of his age, way more than his policies.
And that's why, you know, we see what Republicans think, but we're still talking to those low-information voters on both sides.
And we have to be selling the fact that the policies are bad and why they're bad and why no matter who they nominate, they'll continue.
If we don't win that policy war, it really doesn't matter what happens at the top of the pick.
Well, that's a scary thought, but we thank you both.
Matt Towery, Robert Cahaley, appreciate you both.
We'll be checking in a lot between now and Election Day.
Early voting starts in Pennsylvania in 70 days, 119 days till Election Day.
We've got the best election coverage as we continue.
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Linda, you got to look at the never-changing, the ever-evolving liberal Joe.
Poor Liberal Joe.
Liberal Joe can't decide where to stand on this issue.
Liberal Joe is so loyal to his other pal, Joe, Joe Biden, that it's killing him.
It was only in March of this year saying this is the best cognitive self.
Joe is at his best.
He's never been better in spite of all the evidence that we were showing pretty much playing and showing on TV on a daily basis.
And I have a montage where I kind of compare that to what he then said right after the debate.
Listen.
But I undersold him when I said he was cogent.
He's far beyond cogent.
In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.
This is a battle for the future of American democracy.
And now is a good time.
In June, thank God, in June, and not October, in June.
This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task.
Pretty amazing.
Now here's Liberal Joe this morning.
Wow, he evolves very quickly.
Billionaire donors, they've been on the phone for a week and a half.
Washington politicians, even though Mark Warner has now canceled his meeting.
And the Congressional Black Caucus, by the way, not really happy with all these people trying to substitute their elitist viewpoints for that of millions of Democratic primary voters.
Hollywood moguls.
Hey there, Ari.
And Ms. Disney.
And of course, MAGA extremists.
So Biden allies.
Now, this is what they're going to say.
Oh, wait a second.
So you're telling me that media elites and billionaire donors and Washington politicians and Washington moguls, they all think that they can substitute their judgment for the judgment of millions of Democratic primary voters.
Wow.
What an evolution.
That liberal Joe will say and do anything to stay on TV, I think, Linda.
What do you think?
I think that man has to look at Mika Brzezinski every day and that look on her face.
I'm getting worried before you finish this talk.
No.
I'm just saying I'm expressing my concern before you go much further.
No, I'm saying she looks like she wants to punch him in the face every day.
Even today when they had Biden on this morning, she was dressed in black like she was going to a funeral.
And I was like, all right, I feel you.
Like your man is down.
You know, your husband is sitting across from you talking mad trash every day.
It's got to be, it's got to be the worst feeling in the world for her, you know?
And she just has this look on her face like she doesn't know what to say because it's clear that they don't agree on what's going on.
I mean, I think it was last week they were arguing on air.
Yeah, I mean, it's obvious they've been at odds with each other on this.
However, it looks like Joe has basically capitulated to everybody.
But doesn't it make you wonder, Sean?
Like, I'm really starting to wonder how, I mean, we've always thought that the, you know, the mainstream media was in on it, right?
But now that we have this radio host that got fired and we have these people saying like, of course he had the questions.
Of course he has a diagram of how to walk around behind stage.
Like there's just so much.
It's unreal that this is news to them.
Right, exactly.
And it's also, I mean, it's such a load of crap that people are like, just now we're going to, so now we know that, you know, a Parkinson specialist went to the White House.
Now we know that, you know, the physician is there, you know, 10 times.
He's also friends with the brother.
Like now, it's like, this is all part of their plan.
Whatever that plan is, this is strategic.
This is planned.
They know what they're doing next.
Yeah.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Mike in Wisconsin, we will be in Milwaukee next week for the RNC convention.
Linda, I got to give Katie some major props here.
She found a greatest place, Culver's apparently in Milwaukee, like is the In-N-Out Burger of Milwaukee, she says.
Well, I'm on.
Yeah, what's up, Mike?
How are you?
Yeah, I'm on the other side of the state.
But I just think that we ought to, Trump ought to not worry about debating him.
I think it was a mistake for him to debate Biden the first time.
He's the best candidate the Democrats have ever had.
Let him have it.
Well, hang on a second.
If Donald Trump didn't debate, he would have, the rest of the campaign would have been Donald Trump's afraid to debate Joe Biden.
That's untenable for any candidate, in my view, especially for the highest office in the land.
Well, I hear what you're saying, but I wished he would have waited till after the Democrat convention.
And then they couldn't replace him.
They'd be stuck with him, and all this stuff would come out.
I think this is what they wanted.
This is what they get.
You know, the Democrats in my state have been so big with voter fraud.
Now, the Supreme Court's letting mailboxes back out.
So now we've got to worry about that now, too, because that's kind of what I believe happened last time with all the voter fraud.
But I think just let him be, you know, I kind of wish you guys would stop saying bad things about him.
Just lift him up, and maybe he'll take a lot of the Democrats with him.
We can get a Republican House, Republican Senate, and Trump in the White House, and then Trump can get something done with the Democrats.
Let me just inform you something.
There's nothing that I'm going to say or any great caller to this radio show is going to say that's going to impact what the Democrats do.
They're doing what they're doing.
The best news that Joe Biden got this weekend was when Hakeem Jeffries put together a call with the leadership of the Democratic Party, including members of the Black Caucus, Congressional Black Caucus, the CBC, and had people like Nadler and others saying he needs to step aside.
He got the support of some very prominent African-American Democrats, and he's had that support of James Clyburn, maybe the most powerful Democrat in Washington in the House.
So as long as that support remains, I think they're going to have a hard time replacing him.
Now, with that said, I think anything can happen at this point.
55, 45, if I'm given odds, Biden stays on the ticket.
If not, I think it's going to be Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris teams up with a swing state governor.
That would be my prediction today.
But, you know, we'll see what happens.
I mean, the fact that we're only 70 days away until early voting, they're going to have to make a decision and make it soon.
And that's on them.
So we'll just have to wait.
But I will reiterate, and I think that Matt Towery and Robert Kahaley emphasizing this was smart.
It doesn't matter which Democrat they pick, they choose.
The policies won't change.
And the policies are what are damaging the country.
Economic policies, immigration policies, you know, defund dismantled, no bail laws, foreign policy, energy policy, education policy.
Nothing they're doing is working.
The one thing no Democrat can run on is: is any American better off under Democratic Party rule?
And that's got to be where this debate lands.
Because if it lands on all of them and their policies and their ideology and their philosophy, political philosophy, then it ends in Republican victory.
Of course, meaning Republicans show up and Republicans embrace early voting, voting by mail, etc.
I didn't like that Supreme Court decision in your state today either.
And it's very drop boxes to me.
I don't even like early voting.
I want same-day voting, Election Day being a national holiday, paper ballots, partisan observers watching the voting all day, vote counting all night.
I want signature verification, voter ID, updated voter rolls, chain of custody controls for the few mail-in ballots that we do allow, and that's it.
But we'll see.
Appreciate the call, Mike.
Looking forward to being in Wisconsin.
Although I'm not going to be supporting the Packers.
I may be an owner, though.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back.
We'll continue more of your calls coming up.
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If you want to join us, Todd in Utah.
Todd, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Yeah, thanks.
It's an honor to talk to you, Sean.
Longtime listener.
Hey, he stands on this, the next debate.
Trump should say, no way, I'm not going to do a second debate with him and spin it like, well, first of all, you just don't want to let Biden redeem himself.
You know, they would hop him up this next time, and he would just try.
His only shot is to try and redeem himself in the next debate.
And Trump has nothing to gain by beating him up again.
Just let that first debate be the lasting impression that everybody has of Sleepy Joe and just let it go.
And all he has to do is just say, you know, because, you know, they'll come after him.
Oh, you know, you're chicken to debate him again.
And all Trump has to say is, I just don't believe in elderly abuse.
I think debating this guy is mean to him and repeat that line that he used in the debate, which was great, is that I can't understand what he's saying.
I don't think he understands what he's saying.
It's elderly abuse to debate this guy again.
I actually think that's a great line.
And when we get to that point, if we get to that point, I think that would be a good line to use.
At that point, there'll be no turning back for the Democrats at all.
Right, right.
Trump looks like.
I mean, this isn't the danger of voting in September like they're allowing in Pennsylvania when early voting starts in 70 days.
I mean, that's 49 days away from when Election Day is.
And a lot can happen in those 49 days.
It's so unfair to allow voting that early, in my view.
We need to be informed up to the last minute.
They call it an October surprise for a reason.
That's why the issue of everybody covering up for the real Hunter Biden laptop and 51 former Integrated Contractors signing onto a letter saying, oh, it has all the fingerprints of Russian disinformation was so harmful.
But the deep state, the media mob, I mean, you got a cabal.
You know, radical Democrats, they all knew.
Everybody's known what I have said since before the 2020 election.
The only difference is I've been one of the few that have been willing to say it.
Anyway, Todd, go get yourself a Krownberger.
Call us back anytime.
Gordy in Florida.
Gordy, how are you?
Glad you called.
John.
Hey, I just wanted to comment on this chaos cloud on the left side of the aisle.
A lot of those folks are saying, we've got the solution in hand.
It's a 25th Amendment.
And they said, just go for it.
But I'd like to point out the 25th Amendment is flawed at best because the vice president would have to gather the cabinet together and the cabinet would have to say, come up with the decision and the recommendation to get rid of the president because he's not able to continue.
And then Congress would have to agree to it.
But those cabinet members and that vice president would be slitting their political throats because any sense of loyalty that they would have by other Democrats to another candidate or anything else would be thrown out the window because they would be throwing all of their loyalty out the window if they were to recommend to get rid of a sitting president.
So I think the 25th Amendment is not a good answer for them.
And if they go down that road, I mean, it just shows how absolutely desperate they are.
And not going down that road.
I don't see it.
I don't see consensus building.
I don't think they have enough time to build that consensus.
I think the call this weekend with leadership and the Congressional Black Caucus is adamant support of Biden.
And I think there's just that they're a divided party.
But remember, they're united in their policies.
They're united in their radicalism.
They're united on every single bad policy that has hurt the economy, hurt our, created the biggest national security threat in our lifetime.
They are united on the idiocy of no bail laws and defund and dismantle the police.
They're united in allowing the world's worst actors free reign to do pretty much whatever they want without any consequences at all, whatsoever.
That's China.
That's Russia.
That's Iran.
That's Kim Jong-un, North Korea.
And they've been free to do that.
And that is the entire party.
And that to me is their bigger vulnerability here.
It's so much bigger than who's at the top of the ticket because they're all the same ideologically.
Anyway, thank you, my friend.
Appreciate the call.
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