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Trump Pulling Ahead - July 2nd, Hour 1
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Joe Concha in for Mr. Hannity on this day before the day before July 4th.
Wow.
Can you think of a worse five days for the Democratic Party in like, I don't know, our lifetimes?
Think about everything that has happened.
Obviously, there is that train wreck, uh that that hot mental mess meltdown by Joe Biden on Thursday night in Atlanta.
I was there.
And from here on in, just every day, they keep getting bad news.
The party does, the Biden campaign does, MSNBC does, CNN does.
I mean, yesterday, then it breaks that.
Oh, well, it turns out that Donald Trump does have immunity when acting in the capacity of of the presidency.
Some immunity anyway, enough to push that case off until after election day.
So bye-bye, Jack Smith, bye-bye lawfair.
That's over.
And then the news today that Alvin Bragg, Manhattan, Trump is supposed to be sentenced on July 11th.
That's only nine days from now, and not gonna happen.
This thing is at least pushed out until the end of July, any sentencing, if it happens at all, because the case may be toast because of the presidential immunity ruling by the Supreme Court.
6'3 vote yesterday.
That's how that came down.
So every day Democrats are seeing their world fall apart in front of their eyes.
First they saw it with their president, who they all knew, and and by the way, if I gotta hear one more time, how shocked we all were when we saw Joe Biden acting like that on stage.
You were so surprised.
The White House lied to us.
No, media, you lied to us.
Over and over again.
Sean and I have talked about it on TV, and we've talked about it on this radio show, going back to before even the election.
Going back to 2019.
When Biden's talking about playing the record player at night to your kids.
Like you're like, huh?
Was that a sign, maybe?
The basement, that hold campaign, was that a sign, maybe?
This isn't a sudden thing that, oh, just in the past couple of weeks, he's really gone downhill.
We have multiple, multiple examples of Joe Biden mangling the English language, forgetting names of cabinet members, shaking hands with Casper friendly ghost on stage, shaking hands with the air, in essence, not knowing where to go, falling off his bike, falling on stage at a graduation ceremony, falling going upstairs.
People usually fall going downstairs.
Somehow he falls going upstairs.
Then they shrank the steps at Air Force One, so it's now the baby steps.
Then aides flanked him when he would walk from Marine One up the South Lawn into the White House, just so you can't see the way he's walking.
And now this report that came out in Axios that this president is excuse me, only mentally available from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
That means we're 3.09 p.m. right now on the East Coast.
We got 51 more minutes before it's night night to Joe Biden's brain.
And he doesn't come back online until 10 a.m.
And this is why he spent more than 40% of his presidency on vacation.
Always in Delaware or Camp David, and we don't have the visitors' logs as far as who's going in and out of those places and what exactly is happening at that time.
And Jill Biden, the first lady, should be the most ashamed person on the planet right now.
Because while we only get to see glimpses of Biden, or in the case of Thursday night, 90 minutes of hell, but for the most part, we see him here and there.
He shuffles in, he makes a statement, he shuffles out.
Jill Biden has been living with this guy for all these years.
And obviously at the White House as well.
And she has covered up more than anybody.
And not because she thinks Joe's the best guy for the job, it's because maybe she's running the country without having to campaign, without having to get one vote.
And maybe that power is just too good for her, and that's why she does not want Joe Biden to step aside.
And now we're hearing that Hunter Biden is like his top advisor, the Ukrainian energy expert, the finger painter, the former, and maybe still perhaps because White House, you know, there was cocaine near the situation room, crack addict, that guy, that's the person advising the person who at this point, again, we got now 49 more minutes before Joe Biden's brain goes off at 4 p.m.
That's the guy advising him.
Hunter?
Oh man.
And here's the thing.
Given all of this, why are we only talking about Joe Biden stepping aside so someone else can be the Democratic nominee?
He should resign.
There should be calls for him to absolutely resign today.
You heard Scott Shannon at the beginning of this broadcast, 125 days to election day, then you have about 70, 75 days after that, until the inauguration, 200 more days of this, and Russia and Ukraine and China, Iran, Al Qaeda, ISIS.
I don't know why I threw Ukraine in there.
It's just kind of a natural reflex of saying Russia, then Ukraine right after.
But you know what I mean.
Our enemies.
They all saw that on Thursday night, and frankly, they've been seeing it for some time.
And I'm sure when Biden has met with Xi Jinping or when he's met with other leaders, they've seen it as well.
But I guess maybe they didn't want to say anything because, well, who knows why?
Because I don't know, in Ukraine's case, for example, Zelensky likes getting hundreds of billions of dollars to keep a war going.
That five years from now we're going to be talking about how there's a stalemate on the eastern front in Ukraine.
No movement by the Russians, but the Ukrainians can't push him out either.
This is going to go on forever.
So maybe they just like those benefits there.
But if you're Donald Trump right now, you absolutely want Joe Biden to be your opponent, no question.
I think he beats everybody else anyway.
In fact, I could speak to that poll out today, CNN showing that Trump is up six points on Biden.
Remember, 2016 and 2020, Trump didn't lead many polls.
Right.
So for him to be leading by six nationally, that means you're baking in, you know, heavy blue totals from California, New York, Illinois.
Then when you get to the state polling, oh my goodness.
I mean, Trump is a big, it's like North Carolina.
I don't even consider a swing state anymore.
He's up so big there.
Say what Nevada.
Nevada's gone, Georgia's gone, Arizona's gone, and then the three states that Biden would have to sweep, and maybe he has a shot would be Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.
And now even Gretchen Whitmer's saying Michigan is unwinnable at this point.
If Biden can't win Michigan, this thing's over, especially with Trump now up in New Jersey, in Virginia, in Minnesota, he's tied in New Mexico, Trump and Biden are.
These are states that you don't even they never have meant to enter the conversation in decades.
Maine, Trump's up in New Hampshire now at this point, and you think Joe Biden's nimble enough to defend all those states and win back any of those swing states that I spoke about earlier.
So if the election were held today, this is 1984 all over again.
You could see Trump easily winning 45, 46 states.
But if New Jersey goes, and you gotta believe that New York is probably gone too.
And that that's the state of this race now at this point.
But CNN does a poll, and they say, hey, what if Trump was against Gavin Newsom, governor of California?
Well, Trump's up five there.
And against Pete Budej, you know, you gotta say edge edge, Pete Budej.
Trump also up comfortably.
Gretchen Whitmer, we hear a lot about her, Sigourney Weaver.
The resemblance is there, you gotta admit, like 80s ghostbusters, aliens, Sigorny Weaver, but I I always see it.
Anyway, it's it's irrelevant.
Trump 47, Whitmer 42 plus five.
Then obviously, if you throw Kamal in there, and again, Trump should be Hammering this home and that whole campaign every day.
That's the person who's one very, very frail heartbeat away from the presidency right now, Kamala Harris.
So again, I can't think of a worse possible five days that the Democrats could have had.
And there's been a lot of moments during this administration where you're like, wow, that was a really bad week, like Afghanistan, for example.
But coupling the fact that we even had our first Democrat lawmaker today call for Biden to resign.
The entire basically every columnist at the New York Times called on him to resign.
And again, you're all such phonies.
But if you've seen this behavior for many, many months, you thought, well, maybe if they could just inject him and get him through the 90 minutes of the debate, and maybe he could limp to the finish line and somehow beat Trump because of anti-Trump sentiment.
You all knew exactly what the mental state of this person was.
So please save your editorials.
And of course, the editorial board of the New York Times also calling on him to resign.
Atlantic Journal Constitution calling for Biden to well, not resign.
Step aside.
I've used the wrong word there.
Step aside, but not resign.
So it's okay for him to be president.
He just can't be president in four years for four more years.
Well, how does that work exactly based on what we saw on Thursday night?
But you know, somebody that we're not talking about, as far as a replacement for Joe Biden.
And look, this man has experience.
He's polling very well since uh he he left serving in Washington.
And yeah, he's old too.
But you know what, though?
Why aren't we talking about Jimmy Carter?
Jimmy Carter out of the bullpen, like a 99-year-old Mariano Rivera.
Because remember, Carter only served one turn.
He could jump in here.
I kid.
Gotta have a little fun with this guy's.
I mean, come on.
Tell me you didn't wake up on Friday just on springs in the morning, saying, Oh my gosh, we got this thing won if Biden stays in the race.
And again, take away all the mental stuff here, right?
As far as acuity and Biden.
The record is still the record.
Joe Biden was painfully incompetent when he had his fastball, if you want to call the fastball, more like a knuckleball.
But I wrote a whole book on the guy.
I'm sure you've heard of it.
Come on, man.
The truth about Joe Biden's terrible.
Horrible.
No good.
Very bad.
Presidency.
National best seller.
Yeah.
So I had to do research on this guy for many, many months, and it's like, boy, he's been a pathological liar going back to his days in law school.
He's also a serial plagiarist and not a very smart person.
Right?
He said, ah, finished top of my law class.
No, you didn't.
He finished, I know this off the top of my head.
76 out of 85.
Right.
So this has never really been a smart person.
He's always failed upwards, and only because Barack Obama needed somebody with some foreign policy experience because Obama was basically a community organizer and was in the Senate for five minutes.
So they needed somebody with, I guess, gravitas.
So it came down to Tim Kane and Joe Biden, and they saw Joe Biden as more folksy and can get votes in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan because of his relationship with the unions.
And that's how he got to the vice presidency.
And then it took a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic to get him 2020 because Trump was rolling at that point.
Peace and prosperity.
So he's also, besides being one of the stupider people we've ever had in the Oval Office, also one of the luckiest ever.
But that luck has clearly run out now.
Let's hear from our media, just to drive this point home.
And the lectures that we got when we were told what we saw we actually didn't see.
And what we heard, we actually didn't hear from this president.
And it's all on you.
You're the idiots.
We know what we're talking about.
Joe Scarborough, please do take it away.
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth.
Uh huh.
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.
She knows so long as I was.
In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.
President Biden has a photographic memory.
His understanding and mastery of a complicated geopolitical situation is remarkable.
He is sharp, intensely probing and detail-oriented and focused.
Jackie, are you here?
Where's Jackie?
No longer with us.
I was sitting, you know, two feet from him across the table, and he was, you know, intense.
Have trouble walking sometimes.
Yeah.
So did FR.
He wanted GD war.
But he's totally focused.
He's very sharp.
They say he's sharpened meetings and so on.
Very lucid.
Very well informed.
Biden is stately, and he comes with gravitas.
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single claim that Biden made a mistake.
Ageism is an issue.
Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical techniques.
Ethan, I can't take it anymore.
My hair hurts.
Oh, I love the Scarboroughisms, right?
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
Who is this?
Colonel Jessup?
What's he gonna say next?
Trump ordered the code red?
Like, what's that?
And he says, uh, FDR had trouble walking too.
He won a GD war.
Get it.
All the little acronyms and Fs and boys.
So tough.
Where is Scarborough this week anyway?
I've seen I saw Mika on Monday do a 15-minute campaign ad for Biden, but Scarborough.
Don't tell me he's on vacation because don't you take your wife on vacation?
Why would Mika be there and not Joe?
Unless even he is too embarrassed after all those things that he's been saying.
Because no one talks to Biden more in the media than Scarborough.
I mean, that that's like almost like a daily phone call.
And they say that Biden's a big fan of Morning Joe, but that would take again getting up at six o'clock in the morning and watching that train wreck that airs until 10, I believe.
And again, Biden's mental on off switch begins at 10 a.m. and ends at 4 p.m.
We only got 40 minutes now before that thing goes off.
Uh, let's hear from my friend Brian Stelter, if not my friend.
And for whatever reason, Stelter is on CNN like every day now, even though he got fired from the network last year.
Who's running things over there?
You fire the guy and then you bring it back for analysis like this, which is just pure unintentional comedy gold.
Go.
Look, if you're in a battle between someone who lies really confidently versus someone who mostly tells the truth but really incoherently, the confident liar is always going to win.
And I think many millions of Americans who don't want to see Trump re-elected were yelling at their TVs, wanting Biden to fight back harder, wanting to see an actual debate, an actual fight.
Uh, they didn't get that.
They came away disappointed, and it makes me wonder if there will be any more debates at all.
Biden mostly tells the truth.
That's the argument.
What?
Like, no troops died under my watch.
That truth during the debate.
Really angered some Gold Star families.
And why wouldn't they be angry about that?
Anyway, Joe Kancha, in for Sean Hannity, 800 941 Sean, if you wish to be a part of the program.
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Call it a night.
The best part about filling in for Sean Hannity, this is Joe Concha, Fox News contributor, filling in for Mr. Sean.
Uh, is I get to pick the music, right?
And I like the country stuff that Sean plays, but I'm like, you know what, we gotta mix things up here a little bit.
So you're gonna like uh the show throughout because uh there'll be a running theme.
Let's go with it that way.
Anyway, isn't this amazing with Trump how he won this debate, you know, obviously going away, and Biden obviously didn't sell zero favors in that regard, but Trump I think would have won anyway.
He was very and much in command.
Uh I have an analogy around this that Trump actually was Rocky Balboa in Rocky Four.
You're gonna want to stick around to this perfect analogy.
Wow.
Another quality music selection to bring us back to the Sean Hannity show, Joe Concha in for SH.
Yeah, not who he once was.
This is this is true.
Who sings that by the way, Ethan?
I I I don't know Mike.
That's Toby Keith.
Okay.
So I flawed.
Never trust a guy who has two first names.
Like a last name is a first name.
But he seems like a nice guy.
Anyway, point B. That uh we heard from the press secretary today.
For the first time, I actually felt sorry for Corinne Jean Pierre.
I she's so profoundly horrible at her job, and I almost wanted to feel some sympathy for her.
I mean, she's easily the worst, worst press secretary we have ever had by a country mile.
And today she had to take questions from the press where they actually finally, three and a half years later, besides Peter Ducy or Jackie Heinrich, somebody who's asking about Biden's mental acuity.
And uh do we have any sound with that, Ethan, or are you still gonna have more time with that?
You we got her right.
Play play anything, because it's all absolute, absolute hot mess of a dumpster fire.
Go.
For a minute, and um, I guess deal with um the questions that have come in about the debate.
And honestly, this is something that the president has addressed himself uh multiple times since uh this past Thursday.
And we asked.
Uh did not have a great night, as you all know, and many of you reached out during the can the uh the debate.
Uh the president had a cold.
He had a hoarse voice.
You all heard it, that's why he reached out.
But I will say this, and the president said this uh over the past couple of days, certainly right after the debate.
He knows how to do the job.
And he knows how to do the job, not because he says it, because his record proves it.
Because uh for three and a half years, almost four years, the rec the president's record has been unprecedented.
Pelosi Pelosi asked, it is Pelosi said it's a legitimate question to ask if this is an episode or is this a condition.
What which one is it?
Well, what I can tell you is that um he had a cold in a bad night.
Uh-huh.
Uh I would not see this as an episode.
Uh I would see this as what it was and what we believe it to be, which is it was a bad night.
Uh it was an episode of Weekend at Bernie's He had a cold.
Uh, and that is the reality of the situation.
That is the reality of what happened.
Uh I think we get it.
All right, Ethan.
Yeah.
Uh look, it clearly KJP was saying in a mirror somewhere before this press briefing, it was a cold, it was a cold.
Just keep driving that point home.
This is the first cold in human history to render someone incapable of formulating a cogent thought.
Not even strong enough.
I mean, to to make anything make sense during that thing.
Colts don't do that to people.
You sneeze.
You're stuffed up a little bit.
He couldn't think.
I talked about it over and over again on this show on Fox.
When people said, What do you think's gonna happen in the debate?
We have tapes of this.
I said, Well, I don't think it's gonna be a very good night for Joe Biden.
Why is that?
He was good during the State of the Union, he had energy, he had passion.
Yeah, the State of the Union, he's doing this thing called reading a teleprompter.
The man can still read, I guess, sometimes.
And he yelled a lot.
So people just took that for passion.
Can you remember one thing that Joe Biden said during the State of the Union that resonated with you?
That's kind of the important part, right?
Policy, guiding the country.
So I said, look, this debate, he's not going to have a teleprompter.
He's going to have to think and speak for himself.
And he's going to have to answer some questions that may be uncomfortable, even from CNN.
And I give them credit.
They actually did a decent job.
Not the best job.
A lot of questions that were not asked, but fine.
We'll take what we can get.
But here's my analogy before we bring in our next guest.
And that is Trump is Rocky Balboa.
Now, for those of you who follow all these movies, and I think there's the nine Rockies at this point, if you include uh the Creed movies as well.
But Rocky Four, that's when Apollo Creed wants to make a comeback.
So he fights this big Russian, and they fight in Las Vegas, and Apollo not only is beaten, he's literally killed.
And Rocky feels guilty because, and this part never made any sense to me.
Rocky didn't throw in the towel that would have stopped the fight.
But Drago already threw the ref out of the way, so I don't know what a towel would have done.
You think Drago would have stopped pummeling Apollo Creed into oblivion?
No.
Right?
He was hell bent on killing the man.
The tall wouldn't have done anything.
But anyway, Rocky feels guilty about this.
It's kind of like the whole premise of the movie, where then he feels that he has to avenge Apollo.
So then the Soviets, the Soviets at the time, they say, okay, uh, we'll give you a fight.
We're not going to pay you, of course.
It won't be for any sort of belt.
You're going to fight in Moscow before a hostile crowd, and it's going to be on Christmas Day.
And Rocky says, Okay.
I mean, that's it.
He agrees to everything.
That was Trump.
They're like, okay, you're going to do this on CNN.
And it's going to be with Jake Tapper, who literally has compared you to Hitler, and Dana Bash, who said it was unfortunate for America that you were actually on state ballots like Colorado at the Supreme Court ruled there.
And I could give you a thousand other examples of the bias from these two.
So they're going to be the moderators.
It's going to be on CNN, uh, a network that literally hates you.
It's going to be without a studio audience, so you can't feed off the crowd.
We're going to cut off your mic when you're not speaking.
On and on.
And Trump just says, sure, whatever you like.
Let's do it.
All right.
Rocky four.
Trump.
I made the analogy.
I know the movie came out 40 years ago, but hey, we just did it.
And you listen to it.
Radio history, ladies and gentlemen.
Anyway, let's bring in our next guest.
And I'm I'm told I should just call you Berno at this point, Mark Bernovich, because uh that that's the nickname apparently Burnout.
Exactly.
Yeah, my friends call me that Joey C. And I don't like Joey.
I am why do I have the name Joe?
Why was I cursed with that name of all names, given the current president, and uh I have to share that with him.
But anyway, uh I'll just give you the floor.
Uh what at what point during that debate were you like, this thing's over?
Me about 30 seconds in.
I I'm sorry, I was gonna say you you played the Toby Keith bumper music, and I will just say that someone rest rest his soul, but I met Toby Keith, done shots at them backstage and really kind of a red fellow cup with him.
And if you're gonna not trust someone with two first names, how do you trust someone like the White House spokesperson with three first names?
That's a good point.
I I'm just telling you, I was watching the pressure today, and as you as you said, it's just crazy they're blaming us on a cold.
This is what I think is important for people to remember is that it was just a couple weeks ago where the White House was saying, oh, he's great, he's fine, he's got the physical energy of 20 bulls or whatever.
Solving quadriatic equations and telling you how the flux capacitor works at 1.21 gigawatts.
Yeah, he's a genius.
Yes.
So now it's like, oh, he's got a cold and he's not as sharp as he once was, but um, and then they kept pivoting to like, but look at all he's done, look at all he's done.
And I think that when Americans, you know, especially hardworking middle class Americans think about all he's done.
What he's done is driven gas prices through the roof.
He's making America less safe, and we have an open border where the drug cartels are literally uh bringing in criminals and tens of thousands of people every year are dying of fentanyl overdoses.
And one thing I do want to say, Joe, that I think is really important.
You know, I won twice in a statewide in a swing state.
I couldn't, and I'm a historian, I couldn't help but thinking of 1968.
The country was very divided in 1968, the Democratic Convention was gonna be in Chicago, Walter Cronkite came back from Vietnam, asked, you know, what the hell was going on, and you know, was very critical of the war, and Lyndon Johnson famously told his aides, you know, if I lost Walter Cronkite, then I've lost Middle America.
And shortly thereafter, it took a couple weeks, but he did a famous I will not seat nor like except my party's nomination.
And I really think that when the New York Times and the big papers in Chicago to Atlanta all came out telling Joe Biden, you're saying Joe Biden should step down.
I think that's a Walter Cronkite moment.
And I think what's going on right now, even with the White House, they're in the last gas trying to circle the wagons, trying to figure out if there's a path forward.
If not, I think they're going to force Joe Biden out at the convention because there's one thing we all know.
The left, the Democrats want power, and the thought of Donald Trump of your analogy of Rocky Balboa coming in and beating Drago, hopefully we're not ruining the movie for everyone.
But they can't stand that narrative.
And they're worried that not only is Donald Trump going to win, the Republicans are going to pick up seats in the House and they're going to pick up seats in the Senate.
And that'll really blow their minds after they spend the last eight years saying that MAGA and Donald Trump are the worst people in history.
Wow.
There's so much to unpack by by what you just said, and I've just like had question after question when you're when you're saying them.
For starters, I should introduce uh Mark Bernovich properly, is the former attorney general of Arizona.
And we're going to talk about the SCOTUS rulings in a moment because I I want to get obviously his thoughts on that.
But you made a great point, and that is this narrative that we also see from our wonderful media now is that if Biden was cogent during the date, then obviously he would have won.
Really?
On what?
The fact that household items 20% higher cost of living since Biden took office, gas prices 50% higher, violent crime driving people out of states like California, New York to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, like the border, obviously, 10 million people crossing into this country illegally, including hundreds of terrorists.
I mean, think about the 10 million for a moment.
That's more than the total population of 40 U.S. states.
And he allowed it to happen.
It was completely intentional.
And we talk about foreign policy in Ukraine and Russia and the war in Gaza and China cleaning our clock when it comes to everything.
And Biden was going to win that if he didn't have a cold and he actually could put some thoughts together.
Trump still had all the issues on his side.
And and that's the way that was going to go down.
But look, let me ask you this.
If they replaced him at the convention in Chicago, and that's August 19th through the 23rd, I want to say, uh, is that can you get another candidate on state ballots at that point?
Because I've read that's that can't happen.
Well, I think everything is possible for the left.
And and I noticed even in the past, like when I was still A. G, we had to go into court um and fight the Democrats because they wanted to extend the period for registration.
And you got a federal judge to grant them that extension.
You saw in other places in Pennsylvania, they got to extend the the deadline for when mail-in ballots could come in.
So I if the past is any indication the Democrats have been effectively able to use the laws in their favor and find a liberal judge that'll go along with them basically changing the rules.
So I think anyone that's banking on this, and I've heard several of my conservative friends tell me this, like, oh, it's impossible, it's too late in Wisconsin, it's too late here.
I'm like, eh, I wouldn't put it past anybody.
And I think that if that there will be a if there's a will, there's a way, because for the left, remember you've got to lay it the basic premise of the neo-Marxist left in the country today is the ends justifies the means.
And they are all about power, and they want to hold on to power so badly because you know, you saw what happened this week or you know, with the Chevron decision, they're being, you know, overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.
You see what's happening uh in the courts, and so the left is really genuinely worried that if Donald Trump, Donald Trump, the Republicans take over, they're gonna roll back the deep state, they're gonna roll back the administrative state, they're gonna allow more more freedom and entrepreneurship, more property ownership.
Um, you know, they're gonna crack down on law breaking and especially illegal immigration, and I think that scares the left.
And I so I think right now they are gonna do everything they can in the next couple weeks to try to prop up Joe Biden.
But if his numbers, you know, keep tanking and keep, you know, diving faster than you know the you know, shark off South Africa, then you know you're gonna see them replace him.
I mean, they have to, because they they want power so much they cannot risk Donald Trump with four years in the White House to the Republican House and Senate.
I mean, me saying that probably shivers up their spine, just me saying that.
You see the panic.
I mean, it's it's it's so real.
Uh obviously marks the former attorney general of Arizona.
Yes, that's that's the thing.
Even if you think you could just install Gavin Newsom, uh Colgate uh and hair gel and spray does not get you to the Oval Office alone, right?
He has a record in California you'd have to defend, like the whole, you know, highest taxes in the country thing, highest homeless rate, highest poverty rate.
I talked about the exodus out of that state out of California more than any state in the country, New York at very close second.
Uh There's a reason why that's happening, right?
So he'd have to defend his record.
But then I try to picture this scenario.
I I try to see Gavin Newsom in Michigan talking to auto workers, talking to blue-collar Democrats, and trying to connect with them.
The ultimate elitist, the French laundry guy.
And I just don't see him doing any better than Biden, quite frankly.
And plus, Democrats all own these issues.
It's not just Biden that owns the record.
This is what Democrats wanted in terms of everything we're talking about as far as spending, as far as attorney general's not enforcing the law in major cities, and as far as the border.
So they all own this.
The policies don't change, and and Trump obviously was up before the debate.
Also, people forget about that part.
It's not like suddenly things turned around.
But anyway, I'm I'm going off on a tangent.
I didn't want you on here to talk about the SCOTUS rulings, and particularly first tackle the one around immunity.
Uh presidential immunity, it turns out Trump does have some, thank God, or else every president would be arrested basically after they leave office.
Uh is that case going to see the light of day before this election?
Because basically it sounds like everybody's saying not happening.
No, I mean, just procedurally, there's no way that uh because the the Supreme Court basically said that the president has immunity for his official actions, and it's not just Donald Trump.
Remember, this affects Joe Biden and other people have to be able to do that.
But you know, there's been talk about prosecuting Joe Biden for the deaths that that have resulted as and that have happened as a result of his border policies.
Well, that's not gonna happen now.
He's immune because they're incompetent, but those are his official acts, even if they're incompetent.
And so there's immunity from those official acts for the private acts, there's not.
So the Supreme Court basically said you need to go back down to the lower court and figure out what was private, what was official acts, and and I think that's going to be tough.
And then, of course, the court also added that you can't use those official acts as part of your prosecution.
So, I mean, I think the prosecution, and this is I've handled thousands of criminal cases in my career.
I used to prosecute gangs, I was an assistant U.S. attorney.
I just think right now for the prosecution, the smart thing to do is basically just to pull the plug.
Now, I don't think they'll do that.
I think they're gonna wait, but I don't think there's any way this case gets tried before the election, because there's way too many procedural uh issues to unpack.
And you know, and then once you get to the election, if Donald Trump wins, especially based on his case, he can order his attorney general not to prosecute the case or tell the special counsel to drop it.
Precisely.
And we're talking to Mark Burnovich.
Okay, so now big development number two that happened today is that Alvin Bragg, at least on July 11th, uh Judge Mershawn is not going to be uh coming down with any sentence for Donald Trump, and that's pushed out at least till the end of July because this presidential immunity case may end up imploding that case, the one in New York, that Trump would probably want an appeal anyway, but that that would happen after the election.
So what happens from here, given that?
You know, one thing I've learned is never to try to predict what a judge is gonna do.
Um so but if past behavior is an indicator of what will happen in the future, like I don't I don't think this is a great win.
I think the prosecution recognizes that they're gonna have to brag recognizes that he's gonna have to address this issue.
So he needs time to file a motion.
They're gonna file something, and based on everything we've seen, look, from the very beginning of that trial, you had a judge that did things that were unprecedented, like ordering someone accused of a crime to be in the courtroom for every single motion, every single minute.
I've never heard of that.
Right.
Um, and then from the jury to the very end, with the jury instructions, and then all that testimony from you know, Stormy Daniels, which was really irrelevant, should have never been admitted.
So I mean the case is getting overturned for sure.
So knowing that, and knowing that the judge allowed all that nonsense to happen, I think I are making a prediction, and I'm not saying this is right, but I think what the judge is going to do is say, no, this was all in his private capacity as a candidate, because you know, it dealt with uh, you know, campaign contributions or bookkeeping.
And so I think the judge, what we've seen is he I I think it's not gonna matter, and I think the judge is gonna sentence him, and I actually think look, I mean, if you talk to people on the left, or you watch CNN for five minutes, I mean you mentioned this earlier with tap or whatever.
Like they really think that you know Donald Trump's, you know, the uh a fascist, and he's gonna, you know, I know give it to me.
Is he going to jail?
What?
Is he going to jail?
Because we're out of time.
I need you to come to a conclusion.
He shouldn't, but I think the judge is going to impose a jail sentence.
Because for how long?
Oh boy.
Well, we gotta go.
Sorry, Mark.
We we uh we were up against the clock there.
The bell rang, as it were, Rocky Four.
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