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Joe Concha in for Mr. Hannity on this day before, the day before, July 4th.
Wow.
Can you think of a worse five days for the Democratic Party in, like, I don't know, our lifetimes?
Think about everything that has happened.
Obviously, there is that train wreck, that hot mental mess meltdown by Joe Biden on Thursday night in Atlanta.
I was there.
And from here on in, just every day, they keep getting bad news.
The party does.
The Biden campaign does.
MSNBC does.
CNN does.
I mean, yesterday, then it breaks that, oh, well, it turns out that Donald Trump does have immunity when acting in the capacity of the presidency.
Some immunity anyway, enough to push that case off until after Election Day.
So bye-bye, Jack Smith.
Bye-bye, Lawfair.
That's over.
And then the news today that Alvin Bragg, Manhattan, Trump is supposed to be sentenced on July 11th.
That's only nine days from now.
And not going to happen.
This thing is at least pushed out until the end of July, any sentencing, if it happens at all, because the case may be toast because of the presidential immunity ruling by the Supreme Court.
6-3 vote yesterday.
That's how that came down.
So every day, Democrats are seeing their world fall apart in front of their eyes.
First, they saw it with their president, who they all knew.
And by the way, if I got to hear one more time, how shocked we all were when we saw Joe Biden acting like that on stage.
You were so surprised.
The White House lied to us.
No, media, you lied to us over and over again.
Sean and I have talked about it on TV and we've talked about it on this radio show going back to before even the election.
Going back to 2019 when Biden's talking about playing the record player at night to your kids.
You're like, huh, was that a sign maybe?
The basement, that Hulk campaign, was that a sign maybe?
This isn't a sudden thing that, oh, just in the past couple of weeks, he's really gone downhill.
We have multiple, multiple examples of Joe Biden mangling the English language, forgetting names of cabinet members, shaking hands with Casper the Friendly Ghost on stage, shaking hands with the air, in essence, not knowing where to go, falling off his bike, falling on stage at a graduation ceremony, falling, going upstairs.
People usually fall going downstairs.
Somehow he falls going upstairs.
Then they shrank the steps at Air Force One, so it's now the baby steps.
Then AIDS flanked him when he would walk from Marine One up the South Lawn into the White House, just so you can't see the way he's walking.
And now, this report that came out in Axios that this president is, excuse me, only mentally available from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., that means we're 3.09 p.m. right now in the East Coast.
We got 51 more minutes before it's night night to Joe Biden's brain.
And he doesn't come back online until 10 a.m.
And this is why he spent more than 40% of his presidency on vacation.
Always in Delaware or Camp David, and we don't have the visitors' logs as far as who's going in and out of those places and what exactly is happening at that time.
And Jill Biden, the first lady, should be the most ashamed person on the planet right now.
Because while we only get to see glimpses of Biden, or in the case of Thursday night, 90 minutes of hell, but for the most part, we see him here and there.
He shuffles in.
He makes a statement.
He shuffles out.
Jill Biden has been living with this guy for all these years.
And obviously at the White House as well.
And she has covered up more than anybody.
And not because she thinks Joe's the best guy for the job.
It's because maybe she's running the country without having to campaign, without having to get one vote.
And maybe that power is just too good for her.
And that's why she does not want Joe Biden to step aside.
And now we're hearing that Hunter Biden is like his top advisor, the Ukrainian energy expert, the finger painter, the former, and maybe still perhaps because White House, you know, there was cocaine near the situation room, crack addict, that guy, that's the person advising the person who, at this point, again, we got now 49 more minutes before Joe Biden's brain goes off at 4 p.m.
That's the guy advising him?
Hunter?
Oh, man.
And here's the thing.
Given all of this, why are we only talking about Joe Biden stepping aside so someone else can be the Democratic nominee?
He should resign.
There should be calls for him to absolutely resign today.
You heard Scott Shannon at the beginning of this broadcast, 125 days to election day, then you have about 70, 75 days after that until the inauguration, 200 more days of this.
And Russia and Ukraine and China, Iran, Al-Qaeda, ISIS.
I don't know why I threw Ukraine in there.
It's just kind of a natural reflex of saying Russia, then Ukraine right after.
But you know what I mean?
Our enemies.
They all saw that on Thursday night.
And quite frankly, they've been seeing it for some time.
And I'm sure when Biden has met with Xi Jinping or when he's met with other leaders, they've seen it as well.
But I guess maybe they didn't want to say anything because, well, who knows why?
Because, I don't know, in Ukraine's case, for example, Zelensky Lakes getting hundreds and billions of dollars to keep a war going.
That five years from now, we're going to be talking about how there's a stalemate on the Eastern Front in Ukraine.
No movement by the Russians, but the Ukrainians can't push them out either.
This is going to go on forever.
So maybe they just like those benefits there.
But if you're Donald Trump right now, you absolutely want Joe Biden to be your opponent.
No question.
I think he beats everybody else anyway.
In fact, I could speak to that poll out today, CNN, showing that Trump is up six points on Biden.
And remember, 2016 and 2020, Trump didn't lead many polls.
So for him to be leading by six nationally, that means you're baking in heavy blue totals from California, New York, Illinois.
Then when you get to the state polling, oh my goodness.
I mean, Trump is a big, it's like North Carolina.
I don't even consider a swing state anymore.
He's up so big there.
Same with Nevada.
Nevada's gone.
Georgia's gone.
Arizona's gone.
And then the three states that Biden would have to sweep and maybe he has a shot would be Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.
And now even Gretchen Whitmer saying Michigan is unwinnable at this point.
If Biden can't win Michigan, this thing's over, especially with Trump now up in New Jersey, in Virginia, in Minnesota.
He's tied in New Mexico, Trump and Biden are.
These are states that you don't even, they never even have meant to enter the conversation in decades.
Maine, Trump's up in New Hampshire now at this point, and you think Joe Biden's nimble enough to defend all those states and win back any of those swing states that I spoke about earlier?
So if the election were held today, this is 1984 all over again.
You could see Trump easily winning 45, 46 states.
Maybe California holds out.
But if New Jersey goes, then you've got to believe that New York is probably gone too.
And that's the state of this race now at this point.
But CNN does a poll and they say, hey, what if Trump was against Gavin Newsome, Governor of California?
Well, Trump's up five there.
And against Pete Budejedge.
You know, you got to say edge edge, Pete Budejedge.
Trump also up comfortably.
Gretchen Whitmer, we hear a lot about her, Sigourney Weaver.
The resemblance is there.
You got to admit, like 80s Ghostbusters, aliens, Sigourney Weaver.
But I always see it.
Anyway, it's irrelevant.
Trump, 47, Whitmer, 42 plus 5.
Then obviously, if you throw Kamala in there, and again, Trump should be hammering this home and that whole campaign every day.
That's the person who's one very, very frail heartbeat away from the presidency right now, Kamala Harris.
So, again, I can't think of a worse possible five days that the Democrats could have had.
And there's been a lot of moments during this administration where you're like, wow, that was a really bad week, like Afghanistan, for example.
But coupling the fact that we even had our first Democrat lawmaker today call for Biden to resign, the entire, basically every columnist at the New York Times called on him to resign.
And again, you're all such phonies because you've seen this behavior for many, many months.
You thought, well, maybe if they just inject him and get him through the 90 minutes of the debate, and maybe he could limp to the finish line and somehow beat Trump because of anti-Trump sentiment.
You all knew exactly what the mental state of this person was.
So please save your editorials.
And of course, the editorial board of the New York Times also calling on him to resign.
Atlantic Journal Constitution calling for Biden to, well, not resign.
Step aside.
I've used the wrong word there.
Step aside, but not resign.
So it's okay for him to be president.
He just can't be president for four more years.
Well, how does that work exactly based on what we saw on Thursday?
But you know, somebody that we're not talking about, as far as a replacement for Joe Biden, and look, this man has experience.
He's polling very well since he left serving in Washington.
And yeah, he's old too.
But you know what, though?
Why aren't we talking about Jimmy Carter?
Jimmy Carter out of the bullpen, like a 99-year-old Mariana Rivera?
Because remember, Carter only served one turn.
He could jump in here.
I kid.
Got to have a little fun with this guy.
I mean, come on.
Tell me you didn't wake up on Friday just on springs in the morning saying, oh, my gosh, we got this thing won if Biden stays in the race.
And again, take away all the mental stuff here, right, as far as acuity and Biden.
The record is still the record.
Joe Biden was painfully incompetent when he had his fastball, if you want to call it a fastball, more like a knuckleball.
But I wrote a whole book on the guy.
I'm sure you've heard of it.
Come on, man.
The truth about Joe Biden's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad.
Presidency, national bestseller.
Yeah, so I had to do research on this guy for many, many months.
And it's like, boy, he's been a pathological liar going back to his days in law school.
He's also a serial plagiarist and not a very smart person, right?
He said, ah, finished top in my law class.
No, he didn't.
He finished, I know this off the top of my head, 76 out of 85, right?
So this has never really been a smart person.
He's always failed upwards, and only because Barack Obama needed somebody with some foreign policy experience, because Obama was basically a community organizer and was in the Senate for five minutes.
So they needed somebody with, I guess, gravitas.
So it came down to Tim Kaine and Joe Biden, and they saw Joe Biden as more folksy and can get votes in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan because of his relationship with the unions.
And that's how he got to the vice presidency.
And then it took a once in a lifetime pandemic to get him 2020 because Trump was rolling at that point.
Peace and prosperity.
Incumbents always win in those situations.
So he's also, besides being one of the stupider people we've ever had in the Oval Office, also one of the luckiest ever.
But that luck has clearly run out now.
Let's hear from our media just to drive this point home.
And the lectures that we got when we were told what we saw, we actually didn't see.
And what we heard, we actually didn't hear from this president.
And it's all on you.
You're the idiots.
We know what we're talking about.
Joe Scarborough, please do take it away.
Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth.
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.
In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.
President Biden has a photographic memory.
His understanding and mastery of a complicated geopolitical situation is remarkable.
He is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused.
Jackie, are you here?
Where's Jackie?
Jackie's dead.
No longer with us.
I was sitting, you know, two feet from him across the table, and he was, you know, intense.
Had trouble walking sometimes.
Yeah, so did FDR.
He wanted GD war, but he's totally focused.
He's very sharp.
They say he's sharp in meetings and so on.
Very lucid and very well informed.
Biden is stately and he comes with gravitas.
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single claim that Biden made a mistake.
Ageism is an issue.
Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical capacity.
I can't take it anymore.
My hair hurts.
I love the Scarboroughisms, right?
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
Who is this?
Colonel Jessup?
What's he going to say next?
Trump ordered the code red?
Like, what's that?
And he says, FDR had trouble walking too.
He won a GD war.
Get it?
All the little acronyms and Fs and boy, so tough.
Where is Scarborough this week anyway?
I saw Mika on Monday to a 15-minute campaign ad for Biden, but Scarborough, don't tell me he's on vacation because don't you take your wife on vacation?
Why would Mika be there and not Joe?
Unless even he is too embarrassed after all those things that he's been saying.
Because no one talks to Biden more in the media than Scarborough.
I mean, that's like almost like a daily phone call.
And they say that Biden's a big fan of Morning Joe, but that would take, again, getting up at six o'clock in the morning and watching that train wreck that airs until 10, I believe.
And again, Biden's mental on-off switch begins at 10 a.m. and ends at 4 p.m.
We only got 40 minutes now before that thing goes off.
Let's hear from my friend Brian Stelter, if not my friend.
And for whatever reason, Stelter is on CNN like every day now, even though he got fired from the network last year.
Who's running things over there?
You fire the guy and then you bring him back for analysis like this, which is just pure, unintentional comedy gold go.
Look, if you're in a battle between someone who lies really confidently versus someone who mostly tells the truth, but really incoherently, the confident liar is always going to win.
And I think many millions of Americans who don't want to see Trump re-elected were yelling at their TVs, wanting Biden to fight back harder, wanting to see an actual debate, an actual fight.
They didn't get that.
They came away disappointed.
And it makes me wonder if there will be any more debates at all.
Biden mostly tells the truth?
That's the argument?
What?
Like, no troops died under my watch?
That truth during the debate really angered some Gold Star families.
And why wouldn't they be angry about that?
Anyway, Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity, 800-941-Sean, if you wish to be a part of the program.
Back with more in just a moment.
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Call it a night.
The best part about filling in for Sean Hannity, this is Joe Concha, Fox News contributor, filling in for Mr. Sean, is I get to pick the music, right?
And I like the country stuff that Sean plays, but I'm like, you know what?
We got to mix things up here a little bit.
So you're going to like the show throughout because there'll be a running theme.
Let's go with it that way.
Anyway, isn't this amazing with Trump, how he won this debate, you know, obviously going away.
And Biden obviously didn't sell zero favors in that regard, but Trump, I think, would have won anyway.
He was very much in command.
I have an analogy around this that Trump actually was Rocky Balbo in Rocky IV.
You're going to want to stick around to this perfect analogy.
Wow.
Another quality music selection to bring us back to the Sean Hannity show.
Joe Concha in for SH.
Yeah, not who he once was.
This is true.
Who sings that, by the way, Ethan?
I don't know, Mike.
That's Toby Keith.
Okay.
Slight flaw.
Never trust a guy who has two first names.
Like a last name is a first name.
But he seems like a nice guy.
Anyway, point being that we heard from the press secretary today.
For the first time, I actually felt sorry for Corine Jean-Pierre.
She's so profoundly horrible at her job.
And I almost wanted to feel some sympathy for her.
I mean, she's easily the worst, worst press secretary we have ever had by a country mile.
And today she had to take questions from the press where they actually finally, three and a half years later, besides Peter Ducey or Jackie Heinrich, somebody was asking about Biden's mental acuity.
And do we have any sound with that, Ethan, or you still have more time with that?
We got it all right.
Play anything, because it's all an absolute, absolute hot mess of a dumpster fire.
Go.
For a minute, and I guess deal with the questions that have come in about the debate.
And honestly, this is something that the president has addressed himself multiple times since this past Thursday.
Oh, he asked.
And first of all, I want to say we understand the concerns.
We get it.
The president did not have a great night, as you all know, and many of you reached out during the debate.
The president had a cold.
He had a hoarse voice.
You all heard it.
That's why he reached out.
But I will say this, and the president said this over the past couple of days, certainly right after the debate.
He knows how to do the job.
And he knows how to do the job, not because he says it, because his record proves it.
Because for three and a half years, almost four years, the president's record has been unprecedented.
Pelosi asked, Pelosi said, it's a legitimate question to ask if this is an episode or is this a condition?
Which one is it?
Well, what I can tell you is that he had a cold and a bad night.
I would not see this as an episode.
I would see this as what it was and what we believe it to be, which is it was a bad night.
It was an episode of Weekend at Bernie's.
He had a cold.
And that is the reality of the situation.
That is the reality of what happened.
I think we get it.
All right, Ethan.
Yeah.
Look, clearly, KJP was saying in a mirror somewhere before this press briefing, it was a cold.
It was a cold.
Just keep driving that point home.
This is the first cold in human history to render someone incapable of formulating a cogent thought, not even strong enough, I mean, to make anything make sense during that thing.
Colds don't do that to people.
You sneeze.
You're stuffed up a little bit.
He couldn't think.
I talked about it over and over again on this show on Fox when people said, what do you think is going to happen in the debate?
We have tapes of this.
I said, well, I don't think it's going to be a very good night for Joe Biden.
Why is that?
He was good during the State of the Union.
He had energy.
He had passion.
Yeah, the State of the Union, he's doing this thing called reading a teleprompter.
The man can still read, I guess, sometimes.
And he yelled a lot.
So people just took that for passion.
Can you remember one thing that Joe Biden said during the State of the Union that resonated with you?
That's kind of the important part, right?
Policy, guiding the country.
So I said, look, this debate, he's not going to have a teleprompter.
He's going to have to think and speak for himself.
And he's going to have to answer some questions that may be uncomfortable, even from CNN.
And I give them credit.
They actually did a decent job.
Not the best job.
A lot of questions that were not asked, but fine.
We'll take what we can get.
But here's my analogy before we bring in our next guest.
And that is, Trump is Rocky Balboa.
Now, for those of you who follow all these movies, and I think there's the nine Rockies at this point, if you include the Creed movies as well.
But Rocky IV, that's when Apollo Creed wants to make a comeback.
So he fights this big Russian, and they fight in Las Vegas.
And Apollo not only is beaten, he's literally killed.
And Rocky feels guilty because, and this part never made any sense to me, Rocky didn't throw in the towel that would have stopped the fight.
But Drago already threw the ref out of the way.
So I don't know what a towel would have done.
You think Drago would have stopped pummeling Apollo Creed into oblivion?
No, right?
He was so bent on killing the man.
The towel wouldn't have done anything.
But anyway, Rocky feels guilty about this.
It's kind of like the whole premise of the movie, where then he feels that he has to avenge Apollo.
So then the Soviets, the Soviets at the time, they say, okay, we'll give you a fight.
We're not going to pay you, of course.
It won't be for any sort of belt.
You're going to fight in Moscow before a hostile crowd, and it's going to be on Christmas Day.
And Rocky says, okay.
I mean, I said he agrees to everything.
That was Trump.
They're like, okay, you're going to do this on CNN.
And it's going to be with Jake Tapper, who literally has compared you to Hitler, and Dan Abash, who said it was unfortunate for America that you were actually on state ballots like Colorado after the Supreme Court ruled there.
And I could give you a thousand other examples of the bias from these two.
So they're going to be the moderators.
It's going to be on CNN, a network that literally hates you.
It's going to be without a studio audience, so you can't feed off the crowd.
We're going to cut off your mic when you're not speaking.
On and on.
And Trump just says, sure, whatever you like.
Let's do it.
All right.
Rocky 4.
Trump.
I made the analogy.
I know the movie came out 40 years ago, but hey, we just did it and you listened to it.
Radio history, ladies and gentlemen.
Anyway, let's bring in our next guest.
And I'm told I should just call you Berno at this point, Mark Bernovich, because that's the nickname, apparently.
Burno.
I'm going to call you Joey C. That's the first name, right, Joey C. That's your next name.
Exactly.
Yeah, my friends call me that, Joey C.
And I don't like Joey.
Why do I have the name Joe?
Why was I cursed with that name of all names, given the current president?
And I have to share that with him.
But anyway, I'll just give you the floor.
At what point during that debate were you like, this thing's over?
Me about 30 seconds in.
I'm sorry, I was going to say you played the Toby Keith bumper music, and I will just say that someone rest his soul, but I met Toby Keith, done shots with him backstage, and drank out of a Red Fellow Cup with him.
And if you're going to not trust someone with two first names, how do you trust someone like the White House spokesperson with three first names?
That's a good point.
I'm just telling you, I was watching the pressure today, and as you said, it's just crazy.
They're blaming us on a cold.
This is what I think is important for people to remember: is that it was just a couple weeks ago where the White House was saying, oh, he's great.
He's fine.
He's got the physical energy of 20 bulls or whatever.
Solving quadratic equations and telling you how the flux capacitor works at 1.21 gigawatts.
Yeah, he's a genius.
Yes.
But now it's like, oh, he's got a cold and he's not as sharp as he once was.
And then they kept pivoting to like, but look at all he's done.
Look at all he's done.
And I think that when Americans, you know, especially hardworking middle-class Americans, think about all he's done.
What he's done is driven gas prices through the roof.
He's made America less safe.
And we have an open border where the drug cartels are literally bringing in criminals and tens of thousands of people every year are dying of fentanyl overdoses.
And one thing I do want to say, Joe, that I think is really important.
You know, I've won twice in a statewide and a swing state.
I couldn't, and I'm a historian.
I couldn't help but thinking of 1968.
The country was very divided in 1968.
The Democratic Convention was going to be in Chicago.
Walter Cronkite came back from Vietnam, asked, you know, what the hell was going on, and, you know, was very critical of the war.
And Lyndon Johnson famously told his aides, you know, if I've lost Walter Cronkite, then I've lost Middle America.
And shortly thereafter, it took a couple weeks, but he did his famous, I will not seek nor I like accept my party's nomination.
And I really think that when the New York Times and the big papers in Chicago and Atlanta all came out telling Joe Biden or saying Joe Biden should step down, I think that's a Walter Cronkite moment.
And I think what's going on right now, even with the White House, they're in the last gasp trying to circle the wagons, trying to figure out if there's a path forward.
If not, I think they're going to force Joe Biden out at the convention because there's one thing we all know, the left, the Democrats want power.
And the thought of Donald Trump, of your analogy, of Rocky Balboa coming in and beating Drago, hopefully we're not ruining the movie for everyone.
But they can't stand that narrative.
And they're worried that not only is Donald Trump going to win, the Republicans are going to pick up seats in the House and they're going to pick up seats in the Senate.
And that'll really blow their minds after they spend the last eight years saying that MAGA and Donald Trump are the worst people in history.
Wow.
There's so much to unpack by what you just said.
And I've just like had question after question when you were saying them.
For starters, I should introduce Mark Bernovich properly.
He's the former attorney general of Arizona.
And we're going to talk about the SCOTUS rulings in a moment because I want to get, obviously, his thoughts on that.
But you made a great point.
And that is this narrative that we also see from our wonderful media now is that if Biden was cogent during the debate, then obviously he would have won.
Really?
On what?
The fact that household items, 20% higher cost of living since Biden took office, gas prices 50% higher.
Violent crime driving people out of states like California, New York to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, like the border, obviously, 10 million people crossing into this country illegally, including hundreds of terrorists.
I mean, think about 10 million for a moment.
That's more than the total population of 40 U.S. states.
And he allowed it to happen.
It was completely intentional.
And we talked about foreign policy in Ukraine and Russia and the war in Gaza and China cleaning our clock when it comes to everything.
And Biden was going to win that if he didn't have a cold and he actually could put some thoughts together.
Trump still had all the issues on his side.
And that's the way that was going to go down.
But look, let me ask you this.
If they replace him at the convention in Chicago, and that's August 19th through the 23rd, I want to say, is that, can you get another candidate on state ballots at that point?
Because I've read that can't happen.
I think everything is possible for the left.
And I noticed even in the past, like when I was still AG, we had to go into court and fight the Democrats because they wanted to extend the period for registration.
And you got a federal judge to grant them that extension.
You saw in other places in Pennsylvania, they got to extend the deadline for when mail-in ballots could come in.
So if the past is any indication, the Democrats have been effectively able to use the laws in their favor and find a liberal judge that will go along with them, basically changing the rules.
So I think anyone that's banking on this, and I've heard several of my conservative friends tell me this, like, oh, it's impossible.
It's too late in Wisconsin.
It's too late here.
I'm like, eh, I wouldn't put it past anybody.
And I think that there will be, if there's a will, there's a way.
Because for the left, remember, you got to lay the basic premise of the neo-Marxist left in the country today is the ends justify the means.
And they are all about power, and they want to hold on to power so badly because, you know, you saw what happened this week or, you know, with the Chevron decision, they're being, you know, overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.
You see what's happening in the courts.
And so the left is really genuinely worried that if Donald Trump, Donald Trump, the Republicans take over, they're going to roll back the deep state.
They're going to roll back the administrative state.
They're going to allow more freedom and entrepreneurship, more property ownership.
They're going to crack down on law breaking and especially illegal immigration.
And I think that scares the left.
And so I think right now they are going to do everything they can in the next couple of weeks to try to prop up Joe Biden.
But if his numbers keep tanking and keep diving faster than shark off South Africa, then you're going to see them replace him.
I mean, they have to because they want power so much, they cannot risk Donald Trump with four years in the White House, the Republican House, and the Senate.
I mean, me saying that probably shivers up their spine.
Just me saying that.
You see the panic.
I mean, it's so real.
And obviously, Mark's the former attorney general of Arizona.
That's the thing.
Even if you think you could just install Gavin Newsom, Colgate and Hair Gel and Spray does not get you to the Oval Office alone, right?
He has a record in California you'd have to defend, like the whole, you know, highest taxes in the country thing, highest homeless rate, highest poverty rate.
I talked about the exodus out of that state out of California more than any state in the country, New York, a very close second.
There's a reason why that's happening, right?
So he'd have to defend his record.
But then I try to picture this scenario.
I try to see Gavin Newsom in Michigan talking to auto workers, talking to blue-collar Democrats and trying to connect with them, the ultimate elitist, the French laundry guy.
And I just don't see him doing any better than Biden, quite frankly.
And plus, Democrats all own these issues.
It's not just Biden that owns the record.
This is what Democrats wanted in terms of everything we're talking about, as far as spending, as far as attorney generals not enforcing the law in major cities, and as far as the border.
So they all own this.
The policies don't change.
And Trump obviously was up before the debate.
Also, people forget about that part.
It's not like suddenly things turned around.
But anyway, I'm going off on a tangent.
I did want you on here to talk about the SCOTUS rulings and particularly first tackle the one around immunity.
Presidential immunity, it turns out Trump does have some, thank God, or else every president would be arrested basically after they leave office.
Is that case going to see the light of day before his election?
Because basically it sounds like everybody's saying not happening.
No, I mean, just procedurally, there's no way that because the Supreme Court basically said that the president has immunity for his official actions.
And it's not just Donald Trump.
Remember, this affects Joe Biden and other people have gone up to the people that, you know, there's been talk about prosecuting Joe Biden for the deaths that have resulted that have happened as a result of his border policies.
Well, that's not going to happen now.
He's immune because they're incompetent, but those are his official acts, even if they're incompetent.
And so there's immunity for those official acts.
For the private acts, there's not.
So the Supreme Court basically said, you need to go back down to the lower court and figure out what was private, what was official acts.
And I think that's going to be tough.
And then, of course, the court also added that you can't use those official acts as part of your prosecution.
So, I mean, I think the prosecution, and this is, I've handled thousands of criminal cases in my career.
I used to prosecute gangs.
I was an assistant U.S. attorney.
I just think right now, for the prosecution, the smart thing to do is basically just to pull a plug.
Now, I don't think they'll do that.
I think they're going to wait, but I don't think there's any way this case gets tried before the election because there's way too many procedural issues to unpack.
And, you know, then once you get to the election, if Donald Trump wins, especially based on his case, he can order his attorney general not to prosecute the case or tell the special counsel to drop it.
Precisely.
And we're talking to Mark Bernovich.
Okay, so now big development number two that happened today is that Alvin Bragg, at least on July 11th, Judge Murshon is not going to be coming down with any sentence for Donald Trump.
And that's pushed out at least till the end of July because this presidential immunity case may end up imploding that case, the one in New York, that Trump would probably want to appeal anyway, but that would happen after the election.
So what happens from here, given that?
You know, one thing I've learned is never to try to predict what the judge is going to do.
But if past behavior is an indicator of what will happen in the future, like, I don't think this is a great win.
I think the prosecution recognizes that they're going to have to, Bragg recognizes that he's going to have to address this issue.
So he needs time to file a motion.
They're going to file something.
And based on everything we've seen, look, from the very beginning of that trial, you had a judge that did things that were unprecedented, like ordering someone accused of a crime to be in the courtroom for every single motion, every single minute.
I've never heard of that.
And then from the jury to the very end with the jury instruction and then all that testimony from Stormy Daniels, which was really irrelevant, should have never been admitted.
So I mean, the case is going to get overturned for sure.
So knowing that and knowing that the judge allowed all that nonsense to happen, I think are making a prediction.
And I'm not saying this is right, but I think what the judge is going to do is say, no, this was all in his private capacity as a candidate because, you know, it dealt with campaign contributions or bookkeeping.
And so I think the judge, what we've seen is I think it's not going to matter.
And I think the judge is going to sentence him.
And I actually think, look, I mean, if you have people on the left or you watch CNN for five minutes, I mean, like I mentioned this earlier with TAP or whatever, like they really think that, you know, Donald Trump's, you know, a fascist and he's going to, you know, Mark, give it to me.
Is he going to jail?
What?
Is he going to jail?
Because we're out of time.
I need you to come to a conclusion.
You shouldn't, but I think the judge is going to impose a jail sentence because...
For how long?
Oh, boy.
Well, we got to go.
Sorry, Mark.
We were up against the clock there.
The bell rang, as it were, Rocky IV.
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