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Pastor Jack Hibbs - July 1st, Hour 2
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He is taking the week off to celebrate the nation's birthday.
That's my kind of guy.
I believe in spreading the birthday out for at least a week.
At least.
My name is Rose, and as you know, I love spending time with his audience.
You guys are the cream of the crop.
Speaking of the cream of the crop, I'm kind of a fangirl here, and I've had him on before when I posted for Sean.
He's the founder and senior pastor of Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills.
He's dedicated over three decades to spreading the word of God.
I appreciate him because he doesn't back down from the truth.
Not ever.
Please welcome Pastor Jack Hibbs how are you?
Rose, I'm doing good.
Thank you so much.
No, thank you.
Honestly, you know what?
Because oftentimes I hear from people they can't find a church home.
They they want to hear the truth, and it's so sugar-coated anymore, and you always deliver that.
And by the way, I wanted to point out that you can check Jack Hibbs out at Real Life with Jack Hibbs, the podcast, YouTube serbi uh sermons available online.
I listen all the time.
In fact, I remember once watching a sermon and and texting you right afterwards.
Sorry, it was a Sunday.
But anyway, I enjoy your deliveries.
I really do.
Oh, that's great.
Thank you.
All right, so let's start with the Tennessee governor who signed a proclamation calling for 31 days of prayer and fasting uh in his state.
But that has caught on, and I noticed that you are you you said you are gonna duh dedicate your time to every day reminding everyone that we should be praying and fasting for this nation.
And I love that.
Wasn't that a great idea?
He had I don't think he knew it was gonna catch on like this.
Well, let's tell you we have friends and context in Tennessee, and so uh when that proclamation uh was made, I I immediately it just so happened on the day of the week that it fell.
I was uh to be in the pulpit the next day, and so what I said was Um, hey everybody, did you see this headline?
And and we put it up on the screens, and then I said uh in that interest impromptu moment, I just said you know what?
On On July 1st, let's all become Tennesseans here in California.
Let's pray, let's be the same.
And uh I began to find out from others in other states, pastors saying we're gonna do the same thing.
So uh uh Governor Bill into something, and of course it's historic, it's accurate.
Uh it's something that is what uh is foundational to our nation.
You know, there's people kicking back on this, but what's very funny, Rose, is the people kicking back on it have no knowledge of American history.
They don't have any idea that Congress, under the encouragement of Benjamin Franklin was the one who initiated, for example, congressional prayer, even before that, we had various governors of the colonies uh declaring a time of humiliation, fasting, and prayer to God.
And so what Governor Bill Lee did should cause every historian, every American, if even if they're an atheist to be able to say, right on, you know what?
We've hit rock bottom, we're on the precipice of absolute societal and cultural destruction.
What else is left?
Why not cry out to God?
And uh that's what we're gonna do, and Rose, I know you're gonna be doing it as well, so we're thrilled and thankful for Governor Bill Lee.
I am too, and and this isn't, as you said, unusual, because at least early on in this country, we relied on God and we sought him out for the good of our country.
I mean, what we're asking for to the naysayers or those who want to criticize is we're asking for the good of the country.
Look, we're he one of the things he said is um seek God's hand of mercy uh and healing on the nation, and and when we talk about the nation, we talk about crime, he said, um violence against its citizens, the evil of human trafficking and fentanyl.
I mean, what's so wrong about praying about those things, Pastor Jack Hibbs?
Well, see, you hit the nail on the head, Rose.
This is what's actually happening.
I I I love what you're saying, because uh this is kind of like a lab experiment that we're conducting, and we're finding out the facts.
What I mean by that?
So uh Bill Lee calls for this prayer and fast, and the state of Tennessee is thrilled, and others in the other 49 states are thrilled.
And then we have the decision made by Oklahoma to uh put up the Ten Commandments in public schools, and people are cheering.
And then we have uh what was it most recently?
Um there was the Louisiana uh recently, last week or a week and a half ago, also uh the governor uh made a declaration regarding uh the teaching of the Bible in public schools uh to to be initiated.
If someone is an absolute atheist, why would they voice opposition to these things?
If they don't believe in God, then they think we are a bunch of fools and we're talking into thin air.
So why should it bother them?
But isn't it interesting, Rose, that there are so many people who are professing atheism saying that there's a violation of church and state with all that's going on?
Well, what's funny is our founding fathers never figured that out because I just recently this year opened up Congress and Prayer at the request of Congress.
And so this argument of, well, we can't have religion in the public square.
Well, okay, listen.
We took religion out a long time ago, basically since 1963, and how has it gone for us?
How's our schools?
How is our educational system?
How is our public safety?
And how's the home doing?
No, allow us maybe a year, everybody.
How about if we let the Ten Commandments be posted in a public school?
Some kid might think twice about bringing a shotgun to class and doing something terrible.
So what's wrong with that?
Nothing that I know of, honestly.
And you know, it's interesting too because you know, I I started out this show.
You never know how it's going to take on its own form.
And I had Kelsey Grammer on uh earlier, and we talked about George Washington because Kelsey Graham is doing uh Kelsey Kramer, I'm sorry, is doing this uh docuseries on Fox Nation about George Washington.
And Pastor Hibbs, it just all comes together, doesn't it?
He was the father of this country.
He loved God and he loved those who served under him in the Army.
He felt for those at Valley Forge.
He he cared so much about this country.
He gave so much to the beginnings of this new United States of America.
And it it's kind of cool that we got to talking about that at the same time, talking about how God is the one who's established our freedoms.
It's God and God alone, not man, because as we've seen in the past, if our freedoms were given to us by man, then man can take them away.
And that is not at all how it was ever intended to be.
I mean, from the day one between us and God, okay, but even for the birth of this nation.
You know, Rose, I'm standing here.
You can't see me, I can't see you.
But uh I'm standing here in my office, and I'm looking at um a a rare reproduction of the famous uh prayer at Valley Forge.
That's what it's called.
The prayer at Valley Forge.
And the reason why my copy on my wall is unique is because um Freiburg, the actual painter of that great painting where Washington is kneeling down in the snow and he's praying beside his horse.
Well, a descendant of Freiburg uh gave me this remarkable painting.
What's the point that I'm making?
It's inscribed here, part of Washington's prayer.
And somebody might say, and I get it.
Oh, how did somebody know that Washington prayed that prayer when he's praying in secret in the snow in Valley Forge?
Well, there was a a man by the name of Potts, Isaac Potts, who was spying on Washington, saw him, heard him pray, wrote it down, and now we have that in our history books.
My point is regarding uh Washington himself.
If you I encourage everybody to go to Mount Vernon and at Washington's tomb, you'll see his four favorite Bible verses.
A lot of people don't realize that Washington arose every morning at 5 a.m.
And his first order of duty was to pray.
He would write in his journal, and then they would break camp, they would march for 10 miles, have breakfast, and then Washington, by general orders, it's called, would host a devotion before they went on with their day of marching.
These are things that are in the the records of our nation.
I'm not making it up, it's in the National Archives, it's in uh it's our nation's history, Smithsonian Institute, but who knows this anymore?
People don't teach the truth about our nation.
And when you come to the end of his political career when he's saying goodbye to the presidency, which was amazing, Rose, you know this.
America wanted to make him king.
And he said nope, two terms, and that's it.
And his closing farewell address should make people weep, but it's so beautiful how he recognizes God in his providence over the birthing of this nation.
And again, if we don't study history, Rose, we will just be absolutely lost in darkness, lost in ignorance.
But you know, I think there's an awakening taking place, not only in the real church in in America, but we're seeing really good people elected to office.
I know it's gonna sound crazy, but in California, we're seeing a groundswell of great people being elected to local and state government.
Something's up, and I thank God, and so we're very encouraged this month of July to pray, dedicate ourselves to pray.
And then on my Facebook page, Rose, it's a private Facebook page, but I'm praying live on Facebook every morning for whoever wants to join me.
And um we're lifting up this country.
We're great niece.
That's great.
Is that Jack Hibbs Facebook page?
Just Jack Hibbs is what they're looking for.
That's correct.
That's okay.
You know, one more thing, too.
I mean, you talked about that crazy thing that's happening in California, and we just recently had a debate, and I don't even want to get into all of the politics of it right now because one of the things I really want to drive home today with this audience is that it is not one man or one woman that is going to change the course of our nation.
And we just went through the list.
You know, we're looking at the fentanyl overdoses, we're looking at crime, violent crime, uh, child trafficking, women being trafficked, and then, you know, just the list goes on and on.
There is a lot to be concerned about.
There is no one man or one woman who is going to save us from all of this.
There is one who will, but it's no man.
It's no one we're going to elect because this is really up to us as a nation.
We have a responsibility.
Actually, very much like the um in 1799 when President John Adams, we talked a little bit about the history of going back to those days.
He called for that day of solemn humiliation.
One of the things that the lawmakers invited people to do is have the resolution read through during church services and then examine their lives in light of God's word and confess their sins.
Whoa, that reminds me of Second Chronicles.
Because if you want to save a nation, there are things that you need to do.
And just like Benjamin Franklin, when he answered that woman, she wanted to know if it was a monarchy or a republic.
He said, A republic, if you can keep it.
It is up to us.
It is up to us.
That is so good.
And you know, I was I didn't know how this interview would go, so I happened to have in front of me uh the original uh prayer that I offered up in Congress on January 30th.
And it's really funny because I've taken so much heat for it.
But what's funny, Rose, is that three quarters of this prayer I listed from previous clergy uh from uh 1774 on basically plagiarized uh so to speak their prayer, right?
I mean, I I re I re-issued or reuttered or said again their prayers.
And uh 26 congressmen and women condemned me for doing that because they didn't recognize it.
They they said it was it was not uh the proper thing to do in the house.
And yet those words were uttered in the house.
And my point is this that this nation, if if if you like it or not, this nation was founded upon Judeo-Christian worldview values.
Here's what I find so wonderful, Rose, is that our founding fathers were so forward thinking that they gave everyone the same equal rights under the law that the Constitution and this republic that we live in.
Gotta go.
I have to I always hate, but you are making a great point.
I'm sorry, this is a very I I went the longest I could go on this segment.
Pastor Jack Hibbs, real life with Jack Hibbs, check him out.
You make an excellent point.
Uh I appreciate all you do.
Thank you.
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We've got Rick calling from Florida.
Hey, Rick.
Hey, Rose.
Thanks for taking a call.
Just uh want to touch base real quick.
Um, why would we even need to tell everyone or post it saying it's the Ten Commandments, it's the out of the Bible, Ten Commandments.
Why don't we just say commandments to live life by and say this is what we need to do as a guide to start teaching all our young people and teach everybody else, this is the way that the world will be a better place.
And this is out of the Bible.
You actually told the screen caller life principles instead of uh uh commandments if that bothers people.
I like that too, Rick.
Good thinking.
Because, and thanks for your call, sweetie.
Because, you know, listen, I don't care what faith you are.
If we can demonstrate uh and be models of our faith and our and bring that into our character and our education system that planted those godly principles and how the church and the clergy, they all played a part in pursuit of freedom and independence.
And I and I just feel like that, you know, it's up to us too as parents to educate our children and to remind them, you know, what's most important.
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You know, we were talking about the debate, and um I'll tell you what, Ethan's got this great montage of some of the highlights, if you will, if there actually were any uh during the debate.
Let's take a listen to those.
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person uh uh uh eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh with with the COVID, excuse me, with um dealing with everything we have to do with uh look.
If we finally beat Medicare, third time is between the doctor, I mean be between the the woman and the state.
The idea that the politicians they the founders wanted the politicians to be the ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous.
Only terrorist who's done anything crossing the border is one who came along and killed three under his administration, killed an al-Qaeda person come in and his administration.
Everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through the G7 to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan they put forward.
In addition to that, we find that the impact of the choice that black families have to make relative to child care is incre incredibly difficult.
Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what Trump did in Ukraine, he's this guy told Ukraine, told Trump, do whatever you want, and do whatever you want.
And that's exactly what Trump did to Putin encourage him.
Do whatever you want.
And he went in.
Listen to what he said when he went in.
We have a thousand trillionaires in America.
I mean, billionaires in America.
And what's happening?
They're in a situation where they in fact pay 8.2% in taxes.
If they just paid 24% or 25%, either one of those numbers, they've raised $500 million.
Billion dollars, I should say.
I have to say, well, one of the lines that I thought was so, and I didn't even find it funny.
I found it sad that it had to be said, but it did when uh former President Trump said.
I'm not I don't think I understand that last sentence, and I'm not sure he does either.
I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.
It's better than when he left office.
And I'm gonna continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're gonna do with more border patrol and more uh asylum officers.
President Trump.
Uh I really don't know what he said at the end of this, and I don't think he knows what he said either.
Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country.
Let's stop it there.
I appreciate the way he did that.
It wasn't sarcastic, he didn't roll his eyes at him.
Look at he, I think that he really represented the seriousness and both the sadness of the situation.
I mean, this really wasn't a debate.
And I I appreciate that that was the only thing that was said, but in fact, it was very relative uh to everything he had been hearing, and all of us had been hearing that night.
Now I still talk to people, and look, I I get it.
Hey, nobody's asking you to date Donald Trump, okay?
He's not available anyway, he's married, but nobody's asking you to date him.
I'm not looking for a boyfriend here.
These are the two choices that you have.
That's it.
I know and understand a lot of people would prefer two other people to be running right now, but that's not what you have.
That is not what you have.
A friend of mine was talking to me the other day, and he said, It's like this, Rose.
Think of it look this way.
You're walking down an alley, right?
Things are a little scary all around you.
You're in a bad environment, okay?
Lots of stuff going down.
There's crime, there's this, there's that.
Fentanyl, all this stuff going down.
Threats of war, war.
You're in an alley.
There's thugs all around you.
Think of the thugs as like Kim Jong-un and Putin.
Think of them that way, these thugs.
Who do you want to go down the alley with?
Who are you going down that dark alley with?
That's what you have to ask yourself.
Now, here's what shocked me, honestly, and I'm very rarely shocked, but I was shocked by the number of people that were shocked by President Biden's debate performance.
You had Democrats who were shocked.
They they said that there were reports that top donors were emailing each other asking how to convince Joe Biden to persuade Joe to drop out.
She would never.
I want to tell you something.
After the debate, she was having the time of her life.
She was she was uh focused, she was the focus of attention.
She's up there and she is performing, and she is loving it.
Trust me, she's loving it.
She's not going anywhere, she doesn't want him to go anywhere.
Donors were wringing their collective hands via texts and emails after the debate.
Major Democratic donors were asking themselves, what do we do about Biden?
That's uh uh a headline in the New York Times.
Major California donor left a debate watch party early and emailed a friend with the subject line, utter disaster.
Donors asking for intervention.
One tech industry donor who had planned to host Biden in a fundraiser reportedly canceled the event because of the debate.
Some donors said that they were skipping an event in the Hamptons after Mr. Biden's disastrous performance and that debate.
So there's the Democrats that were shocked by this.
Shocked.
Then there's the Democrat lawmakers.
In a Boston public radio interview on Friday, state Senator Jason Lewis made the comparison to a train that's headed for derailment and a fiery crash.
And he said, and your choice is to, you know, jump off that train.
It's scary, he said.
We may break a leg when we jump off, but that's a lot better than dying in a train crash.
And that's where our party and our country are headed on the track we're right on now.
Wow, okay.
A Democrat lawmaker said this was like a champion boxer who gets in the ring past his prime and needs his corner to throw in the towel.
And he felt that Biden should exit the race.
And there's others that said it's time to talk about an open convention and a new Democratic nominee.
That's a second Democratic lawmaker who had been a solid Biden supporter.
Then another group of people that were shocked by all of this.
And again, I'm shocked that they were shocked.
Time.com.
Time magazine, time.com.
It's time for Biden to step aside and give Democrats their independence this July 4th.
Clever.
I like that.
Carolyn Randall Williams wrote, Do the historic thing.
President Joe Biden give the Democratic Party our independence.
It would be the most executive order the world has ever seen.
It's utterly within your power to give America its first woman president.
Grant history that gift, grant your legacy that gift.
It would complete a career defining democracy celebrating suite of sound advice.
Actually, she makes a very compelling argument there.
Tom Friedman, also of the New York Times, wrote that he had wept as he watched the debate from Lisbon Joe Scarborough, host of MSNBC's Morning Joe.
And President Biden supposedly really likes that show.
He had a similar message saying that he loved Biden, but he's calling his presidency an unqualified and he called it an unqualified success.
But they're all calling for this.
They're all surprised by what happened.
The highly respected and liberal website, The Atlantic, published six articles on Friday, all arguing for an end to the Biden candidacy.
The Guardian.
We are all a bit nervous about the debate, but no one thought it was going to be as bad as it was.
Really?
New York Times, after it told him to drop out of the presidential race following that debate on Friday, the editorial board wrote that Biden is not the man he was four years ago.
Foreign diplomats.
I don't think they were shocked.
The foreign diplomats all weighed in.
World leaders, China, Iran, North Korea, Russia.
They all weighed in.
If you want to check it out, Fox.com's got a story on Russia, China, Iran, and the others that weighed in after the debate.
They all ceased on the debate debacle to criticize our country.
Donors in Hollywood and Hollywood, I should say.
Several major Hollywood donors are threatening to stop supporting Biden or his re-election if he stays as the nominee.
Anonymous donors supposedly have called for Biden to drop out or they wouldn't be giving any more money to that party.
And then someone said that this was from Variety, an anonymous Hollywood donor, said that with all the text chains I'm on, people are basically like, if he doesn't drop out, we're not giving any more money.
Another anonymous Hollywood donor told the outlet that there was a sense that the money dried up last night about 10 minutes into the debate.
Bill Mar gets blunt with fellow Democrats on Biden.
He's going to lose, he said.
It's apparent.
What shocks me is that they are shocked.
They are shocked.
And then all these things go through my mind.
And I'm thinking, why did he why did they let him debate?
Honestly, I told everyone I knew.
They're not going to have a debate.
He's gonna, he'll be sick at the last minute, or have a cold.
I mean, these are things I said.
I he's he's not gonna make it.
He's not gonna make it to that debate stage.
There was no way in the world I thought they would let him do that.
And yet they did.
Hmm.
There's a lot of thought out there on why they may have let him do that.
But I wouldn't have.
And I and I wasn't shocked, by the way.
None of that shocked me.
And I doubt very much.
It shocked any of you who are listening today.
We're gonna talk about that and more coming up.
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Lots to talk about.
I want to talk about the border.
So that came up a lot, and it should, as well, it should.
We'll be back.
Okay, so we're back.
This is the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Rose, and uh, we have calls.
So let's take Morgan, who's calling from Oklahoma.
Hey Morgan, how's it going?
Hey, how are you doing?
I'm well, thank you.
Well, I'm this is just gaslighting to its finest.
Uh the whole world watched Joe Biden vegetate for 90 minutes.
I mean, that wasn't a debate, that was a failed cognitive function test.
He should have been removed through through the 25th amendment within 30 minutes afterwards.
The person like that is should never be in charge.
They shouldn't be driving a bus full of kids, much less have access to uh to the nuclear buttons.
Oh my goodness.
You know, uh Morgan, that's actually a really good point, and I thank you for your call.
I mean, I I like how you put that because you know what, it's not even so much another term.
It's like even right now.
Thank you.
That's a great point.
Even right now it's scary.
Forget the next term right this minute.
It's scary stuff.
And what do you think that world leaders are thinking when they look at all of this?
They're thinking, looks like I got a little more time here left to uh take advantage of this situation.
The thugs.
And again, I ask you, who do you want to go through that dark alley with where there's thugs lurking around every corner?
Putin, G, Kim.
Come on.
Who?
And by the way, one of the biggest issues that night was the border.
And people, you know, I hate it when they say, Trump was lying.
Let's let's talk about this because just recently I talked to um Chief Chris Chris Clem, and he's a former chief border patrol agent.
And you know, a couple of things that he said to me just really made a lot of sense.
And we talked about how immigration shouldn't be conflated with border security, and that immigration and border security are related, they're not mutually exclusive.
And and one thing that he brought up was that there are false choices that our politicians give us where this is concerned.
Now, and and I've had Tom Homan on before on here and on my show.
There was a system years ago, and it and and and and as Chris was saying to me, it was more than just walls.
There is access roads, technology, meeting requirements of border patrol agents.
Hey, this is what we need, this is what we're seeing out here, taking care of that, cameras, sensors, all that stuff.
And one of the things I talked about is how this has become a political issue when in fact, and this is so true of so many issues today.
This is not a political issue.
This is a humanitarian issue.
This goes beyond politics.
It should anyway.
I mean, this has to be the worst time in the history of the border of our country, honestly.
We had other presidents, even Democrats that understood the importance of national security and our borders.
This goes beyond all of that.
This has become a humanitarian issue.
When you have unaccompanied minors unaccounted for 85,000 lost children, where are they?
What happened to them?
And why do we not care?
Why do we not care?
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