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I've got to pay you a compliment, which I don't I I don't begrudge doing occasionally, Mr. O'Reilly, but I've actually been spending time.
You have given me an early copy, a galley copy, as they call it, of your new book that is out in September, Confronting the Presidents, a no spin assessments from Washington to Biden.
I don't want to give too much of it away because I'm going to have you on for a non cupcake interview when the book actually comes out.
So Well, what do you think so far?
I'm actually impressed at the research.
And it's very, very informative, and I think anybody that is that wants to know the history of the presidency and the lead up to this election, which is 138 days away.
Early voting starts in Pennsylvania 89 days from today, and we have a debate eight days away.
Um I think it's you know ripped right from the the the head to today's headlines, and um I think you the one thing uh people will take away you're gonna learn something about every president you didn't know.
Yes, I'm and I think that that's uh I think that's my best anal early snapshot analysis having read, you know, maybe fifteen, twenty percent of the book.
Well, thank you.
Um these guys were characters, most of them.
All of them.
No, they're they they in their own way, they're all characters.
I mean, to be to want to be president, you've you've got to be you gotta have a pretty healthy level of self-esteem, to put it mildly.
Yeah, but some of them were accidental presidents, um like uh Millard Showmore and uh Chester Arthur.
But some of them were unbelievable characters.
Uh they did things that were never reported by the media back then and never taught in school.
And so it was really ripe for us to go in and find out what they were like as human beings, number one, and then whether they helped or hurt the country.
So I'm glad you're liking it.
Um it's uh an important book, as you rightly point out.
Um it's gonna be a very important presidential vote.
I mean, that's a trite thing to say for me.
But I'm I'm saying that this isn't a top five of our uh whole history.
This presidential vote in November is in a top five.
Because if the Democrats win and Biden gets another term, there are no limits then for the progressive left.
No constraints whatsoever outside of the Supreme Court.
And it will be people have no idea the shock that they're gonna hit w be hit with no restraints on the left.
And I'm I I don't know Well I want to ask you about that, and then I have two topics I want to get to with you, and and one first is about the left, and and the second is about the debate in eight days from today, a week from tomorrow.
And and the left has gone a little bit nutty.
Uh I don't know if you heard Rachel Maddow, you know, a conspiracy theorist extraordinaire and joyless Behar over at that hard-hitting news show, The View.
You know, the they're worried Rachel thinks she might be put in a camp and that that Joy's show The View might be taken off the air.
Uh and then you have AOC openly, you know, worried that she might be put in jail, uh, and it goes on from there.
And and Rachel Maddow literally gushing that Biden has literally made the U.S. the envy of the world.
That I'm like, what America are you living in?
Because that's not true.
And then we have this new word in the American lexicon, which is, you know, about these fake videos, which you and we both know is a bunch of BS bill.
Uh and and this is the just their way of trying to make people they call cheap fake videos of of not seeing the truth that they see.
Let me play for you the paranoia that is now emerging from the left and and get your thoughts on it.
You said recently that you thought that you, as an outspoken critic, could be a target yourself.
Some people think that sounds over dramatic, but I'm right there with you.
I think that he is so um vindictive that he will go after however he has to do the IRS, maybe, or even uh you know, are through sponsors to get us off the air, maybe or you.
How seriously should we be taking that?
Well, uh so I was asked, am I worried about me?
And my answer was I'm worried about all of us.
I'm no no more worried about me than I am worried about everybody in the country.
I think it's bad to have somebody saying, give me as much power as you can in this country so I can use it to go after other Americans.
So I can use it to go after the subhuman internal enemies and I'll destroy them.
Yeah.
Like that's just not a good system for anybody.
And I don't think anybody's safe if that's the sort of basis on which he wants to get more.
What what happens to you if Donald Trump wins?
What do you do?
What's your first move?
I mean, I it sounds nuts, but like I wouldn't be surprised if this guy threw me in jail.
Really?
He's out of his mind.
I mean, he did his whole first campaign around lock her up.
Like this is his motto.
Uh your reaction, Bill O'Reilly, are are liberals going to be put in camps, are our liberal TV shows going to be taken off the air?
Is AOC going to be put in prison?
I don't think so.
All right.
Well, first of all, I heard a rumor that um uh Rachel Maddow and Alexander Ocasio Cortez are going to camp together.
Camp Progressive at Lake Winnipeg.
Wait, where is Camp Progressive?
In Lake Winnipesaki, New Hampshire.
And they'll be going for a two-week stint uh training as counselors.
Um so I think that that's what they're referring to.
I do fact check Rachel Maddow tonight on the No Spin News, my TV broadcast.
Uh if you want to check that out, Bill O'Reilly.com has it.
But these people live in what I call a d world of delusion.
It was a temptation song, uh ball of confusion.
This is the world of delusion.
So they believe what they want to believe.
You know, so Donald Trump had four years, there were no political shows canceled at his behest, nobody wound up in the penitentiary, there were no gulah hogs.
So, you know, there's there's actual record here.
Um, but the uh election is not going the way the progressives want it to go.
So they're panicking.
So this is panic now.
And I don't know if they believe anybody listens to them in a literal sense.
I don't think anybody I know listens to them.
Do you anybody you know listen to them?
I don't even think Donald Trump knows who conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow even is.
I I know he knows who Liberal Joe is, and but I don't think he knows Maddow.
No.
Uh well, I think he knows we but it doesn't really matter.
What matters and what's important is um what I wrote today in my message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com.
Now this is and you hit it on your TV show.
I didn't steal it from you because I went in a different direction.
No, you stole it, but it's okay.
We were friends.
Yeah, well, let's just say you borrowed it.
Okay.
Anyway.
You have director of the FBI coming out and Saying the chances of a terror attack because of the poorest southern border are now elevated to a level he has never seen.
He's testified before Congress saying the exact thing four times, Bill, four.
No media coverage.
But here's what's worse.
The President of the United States has not addressed the issue, not once.
And the reason he hasn't, and this is my message, is because it's all on him.
The open border is entirely him.
It's not Congress, it's not the federal court system, it's not any district attorney anywhere.
It's him alone.
And I say this on the air, I hope it doesn't happen because it's I know there are some people who say, yeah, it's worth it.
A terror technique is worth it because that would destroy the Democrats in Joe Biden.
It's not worth it.
Bill, I pray for our country, it doesn't happen, but it's gonna happen, Bill.
Our history is altered.
It is altered in a such a dramatic way.
And my journalistic gut says something big is going to happen between now and November.
I don't know what it is.
I I I don't I don't put a time frame on it.
It's gonna happen because it's inevitable because we have people from a hundred and eighty countries, uh, including uh people from uh countries with terror ties and are top geopolitical foes in this fiscal year, which is far from over thirty thousand Chinese nationals, Bill.
I don't think they're coming here because they want a better life.
Quick break, right back more with uh Bill O'Reilly, all things simple man, all things simple man, Bill O'Reilly at BillO'Reilly.com.
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Let me add one thing to this, because you're you're you're you're kind of you're you're spurring this discussion which needs to be have.
And that is yesterday he talked about amnesty, and he talked about the border being secure.
He actually said it again.
The lie that he told for three years, he's back to telling.
Yeah.
The border's not secure, and the border's not closed.
Right.
And not and he has done nothing about it except aid in a bet in the law breaking.
You know, he didn't mention Lakin Riley or Rachel Morin, the the who the mother of five.
I had her mother on the show last night, Bill.
I heard it.
I I you know, you've done interviews, I've done interviews.
Uh uh when I do an interview and I want to cry, I find that the hardest interview to do.
I don't like doing those interviews or interviewing people that you know are in deep pain like that.
And he didn't even mention their names, Bill, or the 13-year-old girl raped in Queens, Bill.
No, he did he won't do any of that.
Let me ask you a question, Hannah.
You ready for a question?
Yeah, go ahead.
All right.
What we're talking about here is beyond dispute.
There are no two sides to the story.
All right.
There are 15 million undocumented people in this country, most of them because of Joe Biden.
That's not in dispute, no matter what Biden says.
Everybody knows that.
Anybody uh who's a thinking individual knows that.
Why do you think, here's the question, that a George Clooney and Barbara Streisand, all these people would give millions of dollars to see Joe Biden re-elected.
When they know, when they know what we know.
They know the same thing.
Why do they do it?
Okay, you want the long answer or the short answer?
Short answer, Annie.
Short short answer is they're rigid ideologues that live in a bubble that most Americans don't live in.
They're not impacted by the crime.
They're not impacted economically.
They're not impacted by any of it.
The second thing that's driving them is this psychotic Trump derangement syndrome, and they have convinced themselves, like Rachel Maddow has and AOC has and Joyless Behar have that Trump is the embodiment of evil.
He's not.
Okay.
That's the short answer.
Do you feel that these people that uh the aforementioned people and many more have no empathy for the families who lose loved ones because they're murdered by people who shouldn't be here?
Do you do you feel they have no empathy?
You're asking a deep and profound question.
Now, why would you why would that idiot George Clooney and his wife go after Prime Minister Netanyahu and want him, you know, tried as a war criminal when all he has done is defend his country after the worst terror attack in history against a group that has in its own charter the destruction of Israel that over the last two decades has fired hundreds of thousands of rockets into Israel.
And what part of the the murder and the rape and the beheadings, even of infants, Bill, and the kidnappings, do they not understand?
So I would say, in the words of Angelina, oh, I'm sorry, Jennifer Aniston about Brad Pitt, they've got missing chips, Bill.
They're common sense defies them.
I think it they block it out.
You you know, the bubble is true.
What you mentioned, they live in a bubble.
No one around them can disagree with them, or you won't be around them.
Simple as that.
I mean, and it's it's like if you apply for a job at MSNBC and you come in with a MAGA hat on, they're not gonna hire you.
NBC News across the board wouldn't hire you.
Okay?
And when you and I were working at Fox together w that operation, FNC actually recruited liberals.
They recruited liberals because they needed uh a debate structure and a and a counter point of view, because if it's just the same point of view, it gets a little dull.
And I remember because uh our boss asked me, what do you think?
And I gave him a list.
All right, stay right there.
I have one question, and I'm gonna ask you this week, and then I'm gonna ask you next week, because I think it's a very important one.
We are now eight days away from this presidential debate, and I want to I'm gonna ask you one more question, then I'm gonna let you go.
Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.com.
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You you've never been the gun enthusiast that I am, but you're a big believer in the second amendment, but you love Burner also, right?
Yeah, they're a sponsor of the No Spin News, and uh you were responsible for that, so thank you.
Uh I'm now Clint Eastwood with the burner.
Don't say man.
Um go ahead and make my day.
Is that what you're gonna tell us, Bill?
I am dirty, Billy.
Um man, dirty Harry Billy, good green.
God help us.
Uh why why do I think that burner in your hands is probably a lethal weapon?
I don't know why.
Yeah, I don't know.
Unless there's zombies attacking my uh house.
I I don't know.
No, let's pray that we have peace.
Uh you know what?
I I I never want to hurt anybody.
I've been training for fourteen years, Bill.
I I have the tools, the skills to hurt people.
I would never want to do it.
I I'd actually, if I knew I was on video, I would run away and and rather look like a coward than use the knowledge that I have to defend myself.
Does that sound does that sound like I'm a wimp, or does that sound like I'm just being smart?
Five years.
I mean, look, the real advantage of Burner, and I'm saying this for the folks, not for any uh game for myself, is that you can avoid an im uh all kinds of illegal problems if you have to defend yourself.
True.
You know what kind of a country we are in now, are just collapsed.
So this is a self-defense mechanism that will cut down on a lot of griefs should you have to use it.
Well, look, people if they only knew the half of the things that we've had to deal with over the years, they'd be shocked.
And I don't talk about it, you don't talk about it.
Uh, but the reality, if you are a public figure that gives political views, you know, God help you, uh, because you're t you are a target.
All right.
I have one last question for you, and I'm gonna ask you this question one week from today, which will be the eve of the first presidential debate.
Let's get your overall overarching view advice.
How should Donald Trump approach this?
Okay, so um very important, obviously, probably the third or fourth most important debate in our history, in our entire history.
Uh Lincoln Douglas was number one.
Um I have been looking at advising both candidates, because that's what I do.
I can't figure out how to advise Joe Biden.
I know what he will do, and he's doing it right now, even as we speak.
He's probably listening to uh your program, but he's rehearsing.
Now he's m he's going to memorize a number of answers, anticipated questions.
CNN moderators aren't gonna, you know, they're gonna be straightforward.
What about the border, what about inflation?
So Biden is memorizing that.
The challenge for Biden is if he can remember what he memorizes, and nobody knows, that's why people will watch.
You're gonna watch to see if he melts down.
Now, here is the best advice Donald Trump will ever get.
About halfway through the debate, if Tapper and Dana Bash at CNN are not pressing Joe Biden, which I don't believe they will.
What I would do if I were Trump on the stage is no matter what they ask me, Dana uh Tapper and Bash, I would say this.
I'll answer your question in a moment.
But I think it might be wise for the American people that you guys ask Joe Biden this question.
Let Trump state the questions that should be asked.
How are they gonna react?
How would Tapper and Bash react when you've got Trump saying, why don't you ask him this?
Why don't you ask him that?
Is that I think that's I didn't know I think that's very good advice.
Um for reasons that I'm I'm not gonna make clear today, uh I will give my advice next week.
Um, but I have a strategy that is not very different than yours, and I guess that's why great minds think alike, and I think there's a lot at stake.
Do you agree with me?
Now there's been an interesting phenomenon, and and I've been criticized for saying what I think might happen.
I think there is a strong possibility, it's not a hundred percent certain.
Uh we have been watching Joe Biden struggling mightily.
Uh now the White House has been pushing back, and now the media mob has been pushing back.
And if you criticize Joe walking away from the G7 leaders or uh Barack Obama grabbing his hand or him freezing at a Juneteenth event, uh well, that's a cheap fake video, and they they although they're not edited, they're in context, and I'm entitled to my interpretation as you're entitled to yours.
Uh but everybody knows that Joe is in a is in a major massive cognitive decline.
Now, with that said, we did see a very different Joe on one occasion, and that was the State of the Union address bill.
And at the State of the Union, I called them jacked up Joe.
And he raced through that State of the Union speech and read that teleprompter record speed.
He didn't even give the speaker of the House time to introduce him, which is part of the the pomp and circumstance of of of that moment.
You know, it's a big part of those.
You know, ladies and gentlemen, my high privilege, distinct honor interview the the uh to welcome the president of the United States, blah, blah, blah.
He didn't even have a he just got up there and read, you know, like, you know, speeding through it.
I that was a very different Joe.
I call it hyper caffeinated Joe, jacked up Joe.
I don't know.
Maybe it was just a lot of Red Bull.
I'm not sure.
Why we have not seen that guy since that night.
Why do I suspect we're gonna see him at that debate eight days from now?
Well, no matter what happens, people are gonna say that he's jacked up, but we'll never know.
Oh, no, if he's not jacked up, then he won't be jacked up.
Well, he will be.
I mean, come on, they're gonna rev him up.
I don't know how they do it.
Maybe he's got a shaman back there.
I don't know.
Um if he's a if his uh delivery is different, news people have to point it out.
But we're not gonna know unless a whistleblower comes forth, and that's probably not gonna happen.
That's not gonna happen.
But look, maybe maybe it's just something as simple as Red Volvville.
I'm not making accusations.
No, no, I know uh seventy seventy percent of Americans supported Trump's idea of of drug testing them.
What do you think of that poll?
Well, I think that people have a lot of suspicion about Joe Biden, even if they're Democrats.
I don't think there's anybody that doesn't suspect that he's in the ozone.
I mean, you know, if you're just a logical person with a mentality that can uh has a monicum of common sense, you know.
You know.
So of course they're gonna think that way.
All right.
Uh Bill O'Reilly, all things simple man, all things O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.com.
Uh, we appreciate the extra time.
Next week I will ask you the same question, uh, just to give you a preview, and it gives you a whole week to prepare your answer uh on on your advice for this debate.
For both candidates, actually.
Sure.
Uh just don't uh bring a burner in there.
Don't tell him not to burn it.
All right.
You know what?
People don't people that in these woke times are humorless.
They are totally humorless, Bill.
They're gonna actually take that seriously.
Bill O'Reilly is telling Trump, don't bring a burner because he's probably gonna bring, you know, a weapon into the into the debate.
All right, stop.
Because people are so stupid they would take it seriously.
All right, O'Reilly, thank you.
Appreciate it, sir.
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Let's get to our busy phones.
We have uh let's say hi to Jerry's in the very important state of Arizona.
Jerry, hey, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Pleasure to speak to you, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
Uh uh, it's my pleasure.
What's going on?
Two things.
Uh about the fundraiser uh for Biden a couple of days ago, uh, with uh fifty million or whatever the number was.
Um it's rich, it's wealthy people who are sponsoring this, and I've always felt uh wealthy people have a very different lifestyle than the common person.
They live in big houses, they have people who they pay to take care of their situations, they don't go shopping, they have no clue about what the cost of a dozen eggs are, uh, and they have plenty of money, and uh uh and also they when they donate this money to these fundraiser things, uh it's also a tax write-off.
So uh they're coming off this thing very well, but they cannot relate to the you to the common person because they just can't.
And that's you know, I I I I say this all the time, and there there I there is a disconnect.
There's no doubt about it.
I don't know why some people forget where they come from.
Um I struggle paycheck to paycheck and for many years of my early adult life, and it wasn't fun, and I don't know why I I don't struggle financially now at this point in my life, and I am grateful for that.
However, there's a part of my brain that still thinks that way.
Now, does that make any sense at all?
But it does that's still how I think.
I go to the grocery store and I'm like, I get pissed off at the prices.
I mean, isn't that silly?
Because I can afford it.
Sean, I I came up just like you.
I was very poor, uh, had nothing, and I built my own life, and uh um never forgot where I came from.
I'll always remember the tenement building uh and the people and uh all the things that happened.
I mean, these how you can't forget that.
And all these people who are in Hollywood forgot where they came from.
They all came most of the same situation.
You know what I can't stand?
I hate like when Hollywood is always patting themselves on the back and and they show up at I don't know, for like an Academy Awards, the Hillary Clinton, the standing ovation at the Tony Awards and the This Awards and the That Awards, and and they've got their their gowns on.
Oh, what are you wearing tonight?
And these you know, guys, I can't I hate when I have to wear a tux.
I have to wear it occasionally.
I hate it.
And it's just not the way I roll in my real life, but okay there are rare occasions I'm forced to do it.
And I don't know why they they've changed.
Um the people that know me best know that I prefer a pair of jeans and a long sleeve t-shirt and a baseball hat.
And you know, if I have to dress a little bit better based on the sort the situation I'm going into, I will.
But I I I do it with a little bit of you know reluctance in me every single time.
Um I don't know.
I I kind of like I don't want to be attached to stuff in life.
I really I don't want to be attached to anything.
I don't want to be attached to a house.
I don't want to be attached to anything.
I don't want to I like a car, great, but a car is a means to an end, and then you got another car.
Here's one last thing I'm gonna add, Jerry.
Um I assume you own your own house, right?
Yes.
All right, you own your you have a car, you maybe have two cars or something, right?
Yes.
Yes.
You have a bunch you have uh you have stuff in your house, whatever your stuff is that you like in life.
You have your stuff, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Let me tell you a little secret.
You don't own anything.
You don't own your house, you don't own your car, you don't own your stuff.
Because the day you die, somebody else will be living in your house, driving your car and owning your stuff.
So we're all basically renters.
We come into this world with nothing, and you really leave with nothing.
So why get attached to it in the interim?
Doesn't make sense to me.
You get the last word.
I've said that for years, Sean.
Uh you and I are on the same page.
Can I make another comment, by the way?
You got ten seconds.
Go.
Okay.
Um watching all the videos uh with the um illegals coming in.
We're getting third world people who are poor, who are, you know, you look at the videos.
They're all they're all uh don't speak the language, they come from different cultures, and yet they're we're not taking care of the U.S. citizens who are 200, 300,000 homeless people, you U.S. citizens, they're not peeing up in the hotels and they're not getting uh any any really kind of help, they're living on the streets, And yet we're putting all these illegals or several illegals in hotels and all this, they're getting free everything.
And it really bothers me.
I'm livid about it, and nobody talks about it.
Nobody.
Nobody talks about it, but you're raising a great point.
You know, we do why don't we take good care of our vets first?
Why don't we take our care of our Americans first?
You know, why are the you know illegal immigrants given this special status and and all these billions and hundreds of billions of dollars and and we know nothing about them.
And many come from, you know, uh countries with ties with terror and our top geopolitical foes.
This is madness.
We're living through madness.
Anyway, Jerry, good call, my friend, eight hundred-nine four one Sean as we continue.
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