Rep. Matt Gaets and Sen. JD Vance - June 13th, Hour 2
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Uh so the House Republicans yesterday, thankfully, in spite of their very tiny, slim majority, were able to hold the attorney general, Merrick Garland, in contempt.
Uh but don't hold your breath expecting that uh Garland is going to get the Peter Navarro or Steve Bannon treatment, or let's see the Roger Stone treatment, or the Manafort treatment, or the Flynn treatment, or the treatment of Rudy, or the treatment of anybody else.
No, there is a two-tiered justice system under Joe Biden and Merrick Garland.
We know that.
Um and Merrick Garland was recently being grilled by the House Judiciary Committee.
Some of the best moments were with Congressman Matt Gates who will join us in a moment.
And and he asked a simple question and whether or not Garland would provide all documents and communications with the likes of Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, Bonnie Willis' offices.
Now, remember in the case of Letitia James and Alvin Bragg, they both ran on campaigns to get Trump.
One man, one organization, go after one family.
And he's never he's never once criticized those people for running for that and then fulfilling a campaign what ended up being a campaign promise.
Anyway, here is Matt Gates asking why won't he provide the documentation?
Attorney General, you've told us that it's a dangerous conspiracy theory to allege that the Department of Justice is communicating with these state and local prosecutions against Trump.
You can clear it all up for us right now.
Will the Department of Justice provide to the committee all documents, all correspondence between the department and Alvin Bragg's office and Fonnie Willis' office and Letitia James's office?
The offices you're referring to are independent offices of state.
I get that.
I get that state.
The question is whether or not you will provide all of your documents and correspondence.
That's the question.
I don't need a history lesson.
Well, I'm gonna say again.
We do not control those offices, they make their own.
The question is whether you communicate with them, not whether you control them.
Do you communicate with them and will you provide those communities?
We make a request.
We all refer it to our office of legislature.
But see, here's the thing.
You come in here and you lodge this attack that it's a conspiracy theory that there is coordinated law fair against Trump, and then when we say, fine, just give us the documents, give us the correspondence, and then if it's a conspiracy theory, that will be evident.
But when you say, Well, we'll take your request, and then we'll we'll sort of work it through the DOJ's accommodation process.
Then you're actually advancing the very dangerous conspiracy theory that you're concerned about.
Anyway, Congressman Matt Gates Florida joins us now.
You've had some pretty fine moments in Congress.
That that's the right up there with with some of the top moments.
Why wouldn't he provide that documentation?
Why wouldn't he provide that communication?
Seems pretty simple to me.
And you're right, that would dispel any quote conspiracy theory that he was talking about in reference to this.
We have a reasonable basis for suspicion that all of the law fare being brought against Donald Trump is being centralized in decision making with senior officials at the Biden administration.
Now they may be at the Department of Justice, they may even be at the White House.
We want to see the calendared meetings, the emails, the memos, the notes, the correspondence, so we can determine whether or not we need legislation to stop federal entities from goosing state attorneys general or local DAs into political prosecutions that federal prosecutors would never do.
Remember, the Southern District of New York, which is like, you know, the 1929 Yankees of federal prosecutors, right, they did not bring any case against Trump for any violation of election law because there was no violation of law.
But you saw then Alvin Bragg animated into action, and we want to know about it.
And I I think Jim Jordan and James Comer deserve a lot of credit for uh getting this contempt proceeding together for Garland.
But was it the right one, Sean?
Like think about what's going on.
Zoom out for a second.
We gotta ask, what is the grave harm happening?
And to me, it is the qu the the far graver harm is the coordinated lawfare against Trump.
It's not that Joe Biden wasn't prosecuted for the documents case.
I kind of documents case.
I kind of thought both of the documents cases against Trump and against Biden were kind of ticky tacky and dumb and and and and they just seemed uh not to be in thinking with how we would normally deal with an administrative dispute.
So we they they might have been, but one was treated far differently than the other.
Sure, and I think exposing that is helpful, but I I think that right now the document case is like on the slow boat to China.
Meanwhile, you've got Jack Smith seeking a determination on immunity that will allow him to proceed uh uh you know in a blue jurisdiction where I think they would convict Donald Trump of killing Jimmy Hoffa, abducting the Limbert baby, and being the shooter on the grassy knoll all in one trial if they had to call it.
Oh, by the way, that that is a guarantee.
What's interesting is Eileen Cannon is actually questioning and having a hearing on the legitimacy of the appointment of the special prosecutor, and that is the Florida case, but I think that would then raise the case in Washington, D.C. uh as well, and and we'll wait await whether or not immunity comes up.
Now, I probably would have argued that case differently.
You're the attorney, not me, and I would have argued more for limited immunity that would have been applicable over absolute immunity, because I thought this absurd analogy that kept being brought up again and again and again.
Uh I I just think it got it got so far off course.
Well, does that mean Donald Trump can employ SEAL team six to assassinate his political opponents?
That's not what anybody's talking about.
I I agree with you on the legal analysis, uh, but I would also say this is the downstream effect of taking the unprecedented action of indicing Donald Trump for things that no one would ever be charged for if they weren't Donald Trump and running again and winning.
Right?
These prosecutors just think they can haul the former president of the United States uh before their court, and then it's not going to create these really sticky legal questions that at times take years to resolve.
And Judge Cannon, she's getting all the criticism for the left-wing pundits and talking heads, but she is actually the one using sound judicial economy.
Because whether or not Jack Smith was legitimately appointed is a threshold question.
And you wouldn't go through a trial and witnesses and a jury and all of that stuff if the threshold question is answered in a way that would render this entire prosecution meaningless.
So she is being thoughtful and thorough, and I think the prosecutors, Jack Smith and and really the whole batch of them, there is a there's a hubris about it.
That they just they just think they're gonna march in with the Emper Motor of the Biden administration and they can get away with anything they want to get away with.
I mean, my gosh, uh Nathan Wade and Fonnie Willis, imagine the hubris of being prosecuting Donald Trump and thinking you could get away with what they were up to.
Let me let me for a second talk a little bit more about Merrick Garland and the being held in contempt, because you and I both know, at least under Biden's weaponized and politicized DOJ, nothing's gonna happen.
Uh and you know, Garland, for example, you questioned him on the issue of, you know, why would the third highest ranking official at Biden's DOJ under Merrick Garland actually leave that prestigious position to go argue the case in New York City,
the Alvin Bragg case that never should have been brought, the upcharge case from a misdemeanor whose statute of limitations had long since passed, and this novel political this novel legal theory that somehow brought in into play uh federal election law that they never even fully defined as a charge until the end of the trial.
Uh and anyway, you asked about this this appointment of uh Colangelo and and oh, I have nothing to do with it.
Do you believe him?
Let me play the exchange.
You had no problem dispatching Matthew Calangelo.
Who's Matthew Calangel?
That is false.
I did not dispatch Matthew Calangro.
Matthew Colangelo, Matthew Colangelo became the assistant attorney general at the very beginning of the Biden administration, without having been Senate confirmed, goes and gets the senior role at the DOJ, and then after I believe it's uh uh Gupta replaces Colangelo, Colangelo makes this remarkable downstream career journey from the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and then pops up in Alvin Bragg's office to go get Trump.
And you're saying that's just a that's just a career choice that was made that has nothing to do with the law fair coordinator.
I'm saying it's false.
I did not dispatch Mr. Colangelo anywhere.
Well, do you know how he ended up there?
I assume he spoke uh he applied for a job there and got the job.
But see, you know what?
Tell you I had nothing to do with.
I don't believe him.
Sh Sean, Matthew Colangelo, going from one of the top positions at the Department of Justice to the Manhattan DA's office to be a frontline prosecutor, would be about as suspicious as if he resigned from Fox News tomorrow and started doing the morning weather updates in Tupelo, Mississippi.
You know, I mean that that that is sort of the the same downstream career trajectory.
And so he wasn't there because of some sort of realignment in his professional goals.
He was there to get Trump.
And what corroborates that theory is the book written by one of the other prosecutors brought in for this particular purpose, Mike Palmarance, who said we assembled the legal eagles, because we were we were gonna find any basis in law with which to hamper Trump's reassent to the presidency.
And when Palmarance was before the House Judiciary Committee, he pled the fifth when asked whether or not he broke the law in his pursuit of Trump.
Think about that.
When the prosecutor is pleading the fifth about whether or not they broke the law, and someone else is suspiciously appearing from the Department of Justice, and Merrick Garland is refusing to reveal the correspondence memos, notes, communications.
I don't think we should be labeled conspiracy theorists for wanting to know more.
And so I don't think it's sufficient just to contempt Garland for what we have.
We have to get this information.
And don't be discouraged about criminal referrals or contempt proceedings that are dormant right now, because they can be born like a tulip bulb in the spring when Donald Trump has a new attorney general in January of 2025.
So these are live torpedoes uh that that we are firing, and uh with uh with an attorney general far better than Jeff Sessions, uh I think we could have a law system that is restored, confidence that is restored, and it returns the facts and the law away from what we've seen from the Biden administration.
One of the things I said about President Trump when he was in office was that I felt he gave Republicans in the House and the Senate a backbone.
He's back up on the hill today, and uh you know, he talked about great unity within the party and a lot of common sense.
Uh what is your reaction and what was the reaction?
It was a pep rally, Sean, and frankly, you know, you and I have had a lot of conversations on air and off air about the need for unity, and really in the absence of strong leadership following President Trump's departure in the Republican Party, like no one was inspired by McConnell or McCarthy, and you know, Johnson's no walk in the park right now either.
And so having Trump back there, like there was finally main character energy in the room, and you had the most liberal members, you had the most conservative members standing together, applauding President Trump, nodding along as he talked about energy policy, gross domestic product.
President Trump wants to get rid of taxes on tips.
And I love that.
I love the idea of unlocking more economic potential for working class people in this country.
So he By the way, I gr I've worked in restaurants, you know, since I was uh, you know, twelve years old, the washing dishes in a restaurant.
I was a cook, a busboy, waiter, bartender.
I'm all for it.
I agree.
Those are great people, and you by the way, you know the great Americans who are doing those jobs, and uh a little bit extra in in their pocket at the end of the night, uh when you're working for gratuities, means a lot.
Valets, you know, just a lot of people that it could help, and and those are Trump voters, and it speaks to this broader realignment that's happening.
Both Mike Johnson and and President Trump spoke uh you know very well about what we're seeing in the polling where working class people in all kind of states, in all kind of uh, you know, regardless of race or gender, working class people want the prosperity that President Trump brought us.
And it is it it could be the most unifying thing, not just in an election, but in this country for a long time.
Quick break more with Florida Congressman Matt Gates and your calls coming up, 800-941 Sean, as we move along this Thursday.
All right, we continue now with Florida Congressman Matt Gates is with us.
Let me ask you about the laptop, and now that it has been legitimized and brought into evidence in this case of Hunter Biden, uh, to me, that means that now the real investigation begins.
Uh, because Joe lied about it.
We know the FBI pre-bunked it.
We know Hunter lied about it, we know the media mob lied about it.
We know fifty-one former Intel officials lied about it.
And and it was very, very c critical, and uh and and I think now it's it begins the investigation process into whether or not Joe Biden benefited from his son's foreign business dealings with no experience while he was addicted to drugs.
I uh believe that the laptop was validated when Democrats had no basis to object to me entering it into the committee record in the House Judiciary Committee.
That to me was the moment that we sealed the question on the validity of the laptop.
But but Sean, I mean, did you really think we'd be sitting here at this time in the hundred and eighteenth Congress, and Republicans have not even sent one subpoena to Hunter Biden for live public testimony?
Not one.
Uh I think the American people need to see Hunter Biden answer these questions now that the laptop has been validated.
And I I can't for the life of me understand why we send these letters requesting Hunter Biden's presence, but we don't send a subpoena with the force of law.
I mean, we're we're about to see Steve Bannon report to a prison uh if if we're not able to shake loose uh a last minute remedy from the judge, and yet we are playing patty cake oftentimes with Hunter Biden specifically, and I I don't get it.
I I hope you uh I hope you asked about that.
When we come back, we'll continue.
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I wanted to hold Matt Gates for one more uh question here because Senator J.D. Vanson and Congressman Gates uh have now called on Secretary of State Wink and Tony Blinken to uh send them information regarding the Ukrainian NGO by June the twenty-eighth in June of of this year,
Ukrainian Corporation, early June this year, published an online article entitled Roller Coaster, From Trumpist to Communist and the forces in the U.S. uh are impeding aid to Ukraine and how they do it, and the pair of Republican lawmakers wrote Wink and Blink in a letter, and that the title of the article oversells the product.
It's substantially uh a thin piece, largely an excuse to smear a large group of Americans who have been skeptical of aid to Ukraine in one form of another.
Now, uh put it this way, uh Joe Biden is about to sign an agreement with Zelensky.
It's amazing that he has no problem with Zelensky going on offense against Vladimir Putin while Europe has sat back and and is not stepped up to do their part to protect their own continent.
Uh the letter goes on, but in the butt it is being broadcast as part of a coordinated media strategy that has all the hallmarks of a U.S. targeting influence operation, and they went on to call it an enemies list.
Uh Matt Gates, what the hell's going on here?
U.S. taxpayers are paying for Ukrainian NGOs to criticize U.S. politicians for holding America first views towards Ukraine.
Uh it's it's crazy to wrap your head around.
I mean, think about that.
We are borrowing money from China to give it to Ukraine to offer comment on which of our politicians they deem enemies.
And J.D. Vance and I want answers.
We want to know who approved this, and this is part of of really rooting out the deep state, figuring out who in the bowels of these agencies thought it was appropriate to green light some of these hyper political NGOs.
These NGOs are destroying the world.
They're destroying our country by bringing illegal immigrants across the border.
And we we gotta we gotta get the money out of those enterprises.
It's why we can't be voting on the whole funding of the government all at once, why we need single subject bills so that we can isolate these bad anti-American programs that cost us money and zero them out.
And I am so proud to be working with Senator J.D. Vance on this.
He's been a leader in helping us find some of the problems in at the Department of State.
And uh, you know, I think uh we've got to expose it and excise it.
Who do you like for VP Matt Gates?
Well, one of the senators, you know, I like Marco Rubio, like JD Vance.
You gotta have somebody who's gonna return to being like a John Adams vice president who will preside over the Senate.
This notion that you let the Senate majority leader dictate the calendar and the events, that's a new construct.
We need to go back to the constitutional vice president as the president of the Senate.
So somebody like Marco, somebody like JD, uh I think they would do a terrific job because they know how to manage it, and at the same time, they don't have such reverence for the bad institutions uh that will allow them to gum things up the way we saw uh under McConnell.
Gotta admit, Marco's been doing some serious ass kicking when it comes to going on uh these liberal media shows.
I mean, he's been pounding these people and they they I mean leaving them speechless.
It's been fun to watch.
Uh anyway.
Imagine either Marco or JD debating Kamala Harris, it's it's gonna be delightful to watch.
Well that'll be that'll be must see TV for sure.
Wouldn't it be it would be even better if they let me moderate.
I'd be a really good moderator.
I think I did a very good job with DeSantis and with um uh Gavin Newsom, don't you think?
Uh I think that they had to identify Gavin Newsom by his decal records at the end of that debate.
You gave everybody fair time, you were a totally fair moderator.
I matter of fact, I even complimented you on it afterwards.
Uh, but I I think that uh actually it was a really substantive debate.
If you think about it, we got a ton of substance out of the liberal vision for America versus the conservative vision for the Americ for America, and I think it was regardless of your politics, I think it was really enlightening, and you know, we gotta we gotta get back to those.
Listen, I just stuck to the basics.
I told both sides, I said, Look, I'm not giving yeah, I obviously you don't give questions that I said the topics are gonna be pred predictable.
It's gonna be uh basically it's gonna be simple bread and butter issues that impact the people of your respective states.
That's it, and that's what it was.
Uh anyway, Matt Gates, thanks for uh spending extra time with us.
We appreciate it.
All right, see you soon, my friend.
Uh Patricia, free state of Florida, next Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
What's going on?
I was waiting for a prompt.
I'm sorry.
Hi, Sean.
Um, welcome to Florida.
I wanted to say that for sure, because I am from the great state of Florida, the paradise.
Uh Thank you.
Did you see Governor DeSantis last night?
Wants me to be uh like uh he wanted to swear me in as a member of uh the Chamber of Commerce.
I I guess it'd be a volunteer position because I want In and Out Burger to move to Florida.
I would imagine that he would definitely want you on on that kind of a committee.
I I would I would volunteer.
I would get on my hands and knees and beg the people at In and Out Burger to move to Florida because I love In N Out Burger or and I love Crown Burger, and I wish that, you know, uh chicken salad chick, where in Florida do you live?
Uh Jacksonville.
Okay, I I don't think they haven't been Jacksonville yet, but they're all over Tampa.
I mean, it I I love those places.
They're like my favorite places in the world.
And Waffle House.
Well, what else is on your mind today?
Well, you know, I've been wanting to call for a while, and uh I decided that I would just try today because I've been seeing, you know, the floating VP list out there, and I get so frustrated with that because I don't know if it's really coming from Trump or if it's just again the deep state trying to get us to go for somebody that we really don't want.
But anyways, I I think we have a great VP list, and uh the ones that are being floated, there I have really not a hor horrible thing about them, but I would like to float a different idea for Trump.
I tried to send him emails and stuff, but you know, he's busy.
And um I I uh I'm gonna give you a little tip.
And I've told my audience I can't open mail because of uh past bad experiences without going into great specifics and details, and people think I'm rude.
I am not rude.
Uh for years and years in my career, I would always answer everybody back uh that I could, and I don't get mail anymore, and people send it to me and they think that I'm a snob.
I am not a snob, I promise.
I understand that.
I know you all are very busy people.
But um I, in the beginning of the whole um run for the primary way, I meant I didn't finish my thought.
Trump doesn't have an email account.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm on truth every day.
I'm trying to get in touch with him.
But he does read truth.
Uh they might get him there.
I might get lucky one day.
But I'm hoping he's listening to you because he does listen to you, and I want to float DeSantis as a good DP nomination.
And let me tell you, um, in the beginning of the primary run, I was very frustrated when DeSantis uh was trying to run for president, and I was bummed to be honest, because I think that he is a very strong VP candidate because of what he's done in Florida.
Florida is like a micro uh cosm of the United States.
You know, I call it uh little America, really, because of what he's done in this countr in this state.
And um I just feel like the one important thing that Trump needs to consider is who is gonna be president when he is finished in four years.
Who can withstand the the the left wing craziness that that VP and future president is gonna get?
And I think that um DeSantis has shown himself to be a leader, and he can stand against the media and the crazies that are out there.
He's done it in Florida, and I really believe that he would be an awesome VP.
What do you think?
Uh look, you don't have to sell me on Governor DeSantis.
I'm a big fan of his.
Um, and I would hate to lose him, though, as governor of Florida.
Uh what is Governor DeSantis?
Forty-five, maybe 46 now, I don't know.
I think he's got a a really bright future of h ahead of him.
I could absolutely see him as president in the future.
Uh I think that Matt Gates mentioned two really good guys as well.
I think Senator Rubio is has shown himself to be very, very strong.
Uh, as has J. D. Vance, and I think they support the Trump vision, which is most important for a VP.
Um, and I think they'd be, you know, uh a strong addition to the ticket.
Uh but you know, this it's gotta be a choice that that Trump makes.
Um it's it's uh but yeah, I think we have a deep bench, and I think there are a lot of young people that I'd like to see get into the mix.
Uh I think it's you know, we're heading now into a time where after Donald Trump there's gonna be a new generation.
Right.
And I think that that new generation needs positions of power uh when Donald Trump gets it, gets you know, hopefully w back in the White House.
I hope that happens.
But we'll see.
Um I wouldn't be against it, but uh I wouldn't like the idea of losing him for governor, so I'm kinda torn a little.
Uh Patricia, thank you.
Let's get back to our busy phones.
Uh Arizona, by the way, Trump up by eight today, a poll comes out.
Ted, you're next on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Good afternoon, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you doing?
Very good.
Um, like I said, from Yuma, Arizona.
I'm down here in Yuma, man.
And uh you're right in the right in the heart of you know, the the Adam Schiffhall down there uh with the illegal immigration.
Well, we're we're not too happy with our governor either, but she she's completely useless, an open borders, useless governor who rightly now I believe is being investigated.
Right.
Most of them are.
Most of 'em.
We've got one in Texas trying to trying to hold them off, but uh the the Asians uh look, I've seen around this town.
I'm talking about the thirty thousand c uh Chinese nationals that have come in and just just since October and the twenty-six thousand last year.
I think that's what you're f referring to.
Exactly.
I've watched them walk around and all of them wearing the same black outsuit and white toe shoes.
They're ending up in North Dakota near our nuclear reserves.
And they're they're buying up thousands and thousands of acres of farmland, ranch land and land near military installations.
Now, do you think if I went over to China one day, entered the country Illegally and started buying up farmland and ranch land and land near their military installations.
How do you think that would end for me?
It's not happening.
It will not happen.
Yeah, because they're smarter than we are.
Exactly.
They're sovereign.
They're kept their solvent solvency.
This is my question to you.
In Cuba.
Remember the Bay of Pigs?
Of course.
You're talking about hypersonic missiles now off the coast of our state.
Yes, I'm very concerned about it.
Right.
They're whining about, oh, it's just one ship.
No, it's not one ship.
It's a nuclear sub, nuclear nuclearly capable.
There's more than two ships down there.
I don't care what they're trying to lie on TV about.
We've got the Chinese trying to put a chain, and they know it works, and we know it works.
We had an admiral on the news this morning talking about, you know, them blocking off our uh ability to get in and out of uh the China Sea to protect Japan.
What is your what your what's your geopolitical beliefs on this, man?
It is look like you ought to know what it is, and I said this the other day, and people took it the wrong way in the liberal media.
I said there is a reason that China didn't never never paid a price for COVID or intellectual property theft or unfair trade practices or the spy balloon or hostile maneuvers against our fighter jets and international airspace or against our Navy and international waterways is a reason.
And I believe it's because the Biden family's compromised.
The sheer amount of millions and millions of dollars made by the Biden family, uh, led by Hunter with no experience while he's addicted to drugs, I believe is compromised their ability to confront our top geopolitical foes.
Am I wrong?
No, you're not wrong.
You're exactly right.
And now here's the thing.
He's commander-in-chief.
We are being targeted from multiple paths around the world that have no more beliefs than to annihilate.
Which when war, that's how you winner you lose.
Um hopefully when this trial goes off in California for uh Biden Jr.
That they will uncover the true corruptness within this family that's quote unquote pounding the paddle right now to tr to to get re-elected when he should be running this country as a head of this country.
Just just don't hold your breath.
Anyway, thank you, my friend.
Good point you're making.
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