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The evidence was incontrovertible.
It was overwhelming and damning.
The judge's instructions were right, fair, unlike what Donald Trump had to face in both the civil trial and the criminal trial of New York.
And that was that the prosecution did not have to prove that on the day of or just before Hunter Biden filled out that gun application form, that he had to be addicted to drugs that second.
No, but if it was proven that he was using drugs in and around the time, that in fact he signed that application, that that would be sufficient enough evidence that he was lying on that form.
And so it was already overwhelming.
Hunter tried to meet up with a since convicted drug dealer the day before he lied about his crack cocaine use in order to buy the .38 caliber revolver.
And of course, then the next day, he was writing his wife about how he's smoking crack cocaine.
So it was pretty apparent.
This isn't a surprise.
But I go back to my arguments, which is there's something much, much bigger that has gone on here that we really need to pay attention to.
And I go back to John Solomon's reporting that in March of 2020, that your FBI knew that the laptop from hell was very real.
We know that there was a concerted effort when this story broke in the New York Post to basically censor any and all information about what is a very real laptop.
Now, we know, according to the FBI, that testified, is not only was the laptop real, it was introduced into evidence by the prosecution in this particular case, but they knew it in March of 2020 and that the laptop had never been tampered with.
That's another important aspect of this.
But we know when we got to November of 2020 and Joe Biden repeatedly was out there lying and saying it's not true.
We had 51 former intelligence officers organized apparently by Wink and Tony Blinken with no knowledge of the laptop at all whatsoever, telling the American people that it has all the fingerprints of Russian disinformation.
They were like a broken record.
Then, of course, the media mob echoing the comments of Joe Biden and the 51 former Intel agents that knew nothing about the laptop and never examined the laptop.
Then, of course, we have the FBI that knew it was real in the months leading up to the 2020 election, meeting on a weekly basis with big tech groups like Facebook and Twitter, et cetera, warning them that they may be victims of a misinformation or disinformation campaign, and it may be about Joe Biden.
It may be about Hunter Biden.
We also know that when the story broke, Facebook and Twitter asked the FBI whether or not this was the type of information that they were warning them about.
And meanwhile, they know that it was absolutely the laptop was real, but they didn't confirm it for big tech because they didn't want the information in the hands of the American people.
We also know that the FBI, in that sense, ran a protection racket for the Biden family in the lead up to the 2020 election.
This, you know, just basically reminiscent of what we learned about the 2016 election.
And big tech, they wouldn't even allow you to send a private message to a friend with the link of the New York Post laptop story.
And now that the laptop is very real, well, then that opens up a whole series of other legal issues for the Bidens.
But it really does raise a more important question, why if they've known it was real for all of this time, why haven't they addressed the significant, serious implications that are in this laptop?
And I'm not just talking about allegations of prostitutes and guns and drug use.
I'm talking about foreign business deals.
I'm talking about implicating Hunter implicating his own father.
What about Tony Bobolinski's 10% for the big guy?
What about Devin Archer debunking Joe Biden's repeated lie that he never once spoke to his son, his brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals?
But yet Devin Archer told the House Oversight Committee that, in fact, he knew of at least 20 meetings that Joe Biden called into when Hunter was meeting with foreign business associates.
And what about the meetings with foreign business partners and associates like the former Russian oligarch, former First Lady of Moscow, Elena Batarina, at the Cafe Milano and other meetings that took place?
And what did Joe know and when did he know it and why did he lie to the American people?
And then, of course, 10% from the big guy is one implication in the laptop that we now know is very real.
But what about, oh, I have to give half my income to Pops?
That was a statement made by Hunter Biden to his own daughter.
And what about the statements and the text messages back and forth with the financial head of their company?
Well, which account should we pay for Pops' home repairs for?
In this case, what account should we use?
How much money went to Joe Biden?
Now we have an issue involving serious, significant issues that far transcend this gun charge here.
Never mind the tax charges.
Never mind the fact that David Weiss had plan A, B, and C. Plan A was never to charge Hunter Biden.
Unfortunately, IRS whistleblowers forced his hand, and that led to the sweetheart deal that if not for the judge in Delaware actually reading it and asking the defense if they'd ever seen such an agreement that was as lenient as this, and they had to answer honestly, no, they never had.
Well, then why are you bringing this to me?
And that led to where we are today.
Here to weigh in on all of it, Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst and best-selling author Roger Severino is with us, Vice President Domestic Policy at the Heritage Foundation and Trump's former director of the Office of Civil Rights at Health and Human Services.
Welcome both of you.
And Greg, I start with you, by the way.
We've been spending a lot of time talking today because when you were hosting your show on Fox Nation, I was a guest on your show.
So Roll Reversal back again.
Well, what I find so offensive, an American should find offensive, is how these 51 ex-Intel officials still have no regrets over their lying letter to help Joe Biden get elected.
In fact, they say they do it again because it was patriotic.
So understand, it's patriotic to lie to steal an election.
They seem quite proud of what they did.
To them, the end of helping Joe Biden justified any malevolent or devious means.
They do it again without regret, which means, Sean, that our corrupt Intel community doesn't just spy.
They act as political operatives, but so does the FBI.
They knew the laptop was real, but instead of the FBI coming clean, they concealed it.
And they pressured social media to censor the truth.
And of course, the media, they were willing accessories.
They denounced the laptop as phony Russian disinformation without ever bothering to verify it.
Only after Biden was safely elected did they reverse course and admit that it was authentic.
But no apologies, no mea culpas.
It's four years later, Greg.
I mean, and the FBI knew in March of 2020 it was legitimate.
And they have kept this from the American people.
The one thing this trial did here was finally legitimize the authenticity of the laptop, which they've known about for more than four years now.
And in the weeks leading up to the 2020 election, all of these groups combined gave the biggest in-kind contribution that any presidential candidate has ever gotten in the history of this country.
Yeah.
And under Alvin Bragg's legal theory, influencing an election by unlawful means is a criminal felony.
Well, if that's the case, perhaps there ought to be a consideration of criminally prosecuting the 51 ex-Intel officials.
They had classified security clearance that they used to peddle the lie and the FBI pretty much the same thing.
There's substantial evidence the CIA, current CIA, was actively involved in selling the lie.
So under Alvin Bragg's legal principles, they should all be prosecuted.
Let's get your take, Roger Severino.
Yeah, if those 51 so-called Intel officials communicated with the FBI or CIA, talking to their old friends and buddies, and made a false statement, then Greg Jarrett is right.
That is a crime.
If they told their old friends that, hey, we got to keep this story under the rug, and here's the cover, it's Russian disinformation, right?
Isn't it?
That's what we think.
When, of course, they had no reason to believe it was Russian information.
That's a crime.
And that would be election interference under the Bragg theory for sure.
And it just shows how deep the deep state goes.
The FBI knew from the very beginning that this laptop was not Russian disinformation, that it was 100% legit, and they kept quiet because it protected Joe Biden's prospects.
And it just shows how far the corruption goes.
I mean, the deal today with the conviction, yes, it was an open and shut case.
It was obvious to the world he was on drugs when he bought that gun.
But that was going to be swept under the rug with the sweetheart deal.
This same Department of Justice, this same deep statement.
Well, the Sweetheart deal was Plan B. Plan A was not to charge him for anything, and then that got blown up by the IRS whistleblowers that caused them to revisit it, and that resulted in the sweetheart deal.
So it even was sweeter than the sweetheart deal.
Yeah, and worse than that, had they gone with that plea deal that the judge blew up, it would have absolved Hunter Biden for every associated crime related to tax fraud, related to gun charges, related to everything on the tax forms that dealt with barisma.
All the corruption that could be linked all the way to the big guy, which is President Biden, would have been made to disappear almost like in perfect mafia fashion.
It just magically disappears.
But at least we got a little bit of justice with the gun charge.
But let's not be distracted.
This is not equal justice.
Just because he got convicted for an open and shut case that was going to disappear had they had their way, this doesn't mean the real fish, President Biden, and the real corrosion of foreign influence peddling is not being swept under the rug.
It absolutely is being covered.
So the American people should not be fooled.
This is not equal justice under the law.
This is still favoritism.
But the fact that they've now legitimized the laptop, even though we've known this for a long time, Greg, and to pick up on Roger's point, that to me now should open a door.
Now, I was watching Merrick Garland is scorching President Trump and his allies for attacks on the Justice Department, and it's dangerous for people's safety.
My question to Merrick Garland would be: is it not dangerous to our system of justice?
Is it not the weaponization of justice when you have people like Letitia James and Alvin Bragg running campaigns saying they're going after one man, one family, and one organization?
How come he's not been critical of those actions and those words by people running for office in those positions of power?
Well, if we had an honest attorney general and those around him at the Department of Justice, they would give serious consideration to charging people like Letitia James and Alvin Bragg and Fonnie Willis and even Jack Smith.
There's a federal statute.
A lot of people don't know about it.
18 U.S.C. 242.
It makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
Isn't that what those people I just identified have been doing, weaponizing the law in a classic case of lawfare under color of the law, right out of that federal felony statute?
You know, the only answer is always at the ballot box in a constitutional republic based on democracy.
The only way to fix it is to clean house at the Department of Justice and the FBI and the CIA and the intelligence apparatus because they're all corrupt and they are political organs now of the Democratic Party and they are protecting Joe Biden and they're misusing and contorting the law to go after his opponent.
And, you know, at the end in November, you know the exact number of days, Sean, people can make a difference.
146, but who's counting?
You are.
Good point.
All right, quick break.
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We'll also get Christy Noam's take on it.
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Joining us now is South Dakota Governor Christy Noam is with us.
Governor, how are you?
Well, I'm doing pretty good.
We're living the dream here in South Dakota.
I'm not surprised at all by Hunter Biden's convictions.
I just look back at all of his other crimes and what he and his father and family have done to sell out America and recognize how corrupt this Biden administration is and the challenges we have ahead if we don't get Donald Trump back in the White House.
You know, I look at this and we just had a long discussion and I've been harping on this all day because it really stands out in my mind is the government in this case legitimized what the FBI knew in March of 2020.
And that was that the laptop from hell of Hunter Biden was very real.
and the FBI testified to that in this particular trial.
And yet we- Yeah, I was watching that when they brought the, when they submitted the laptop into evidence.
I was like, does anybody recognize how historic this is, that the laptop actually exists?
I thought the same thing, Sean.
Now that we know that the laptop is real, well, first I want some questions answered.
I want to know why Joe Biden lied repeatedly.
I want to know why 51 former intelligence agents organized by Wink and Tony Blinken, why they, without any specific knowledge at all whatsoever, lied to the American people in the weeks leading up to the 2020 election, why none of them have any regrets.
They were all called by FoxNews.com.
None of them are showing any regret for getting it wrong.
I think they should.
I would like to know why the FBI, knowing that the laptop was very real in the months leading up to the 2020 election, was meeting with big tech companies and warning them that they may be victims of a disinformation campaign and it may be about Joe and Hunter Biden.
And then when this story broke in the New York Post and Facebook and Twitter specifically asked the FBI whether or not this was what they were being warned about or whether or not it was true, the FBI would not give them an answer.
I think that was to protect the Biden reelection chances.
They should have told them the truth that they knew for a long time, but they didn't do it.
Big tech prevented even private citizens from sharing this information on a private message to somebody on social media.
I mean, that's how deep this went.
Never mind the media mob.
You know, they do what they always do, and that's run for protection for any Democrat running for office and attack any Republican running for office.
And I guess that's what the world we live in.
However, to me, Governor, this now opens Pandora's box because if the laptop is real and has not been tampered with, as was testified to in this case, well, I want to know more about the 10% being put aside for the big guy.
I want to know about Hunter implicating his father by saying half his income goes to his father.
I want to know more about the conversations that the money that Hunter was making without, admittedly, without any experience, the millions of dollars while he was addicted to drugs, and seemingly no work that we've been able to ascertain.
I'd like questions answered about that too, but I'd like to know answers to the questions, what did Joe know and when did he know it?
Because I think that's crucial for the country to know.
They were able to now hide this for four years.
And this case now has opened up that Pandora's box that should have been opened up in the weeks before the 2020 election.
It has.
And that's not only should the Biden family be held accountable, including President Biden, Hunter, all of their relatives that have benefited from this and put millions of dollars into their own pockets.
It's all of the people that you just mentioned that helped them cover it up for the last four years.
It is the three-letter agencies.
It is the prosecutors that were corrupt, that let the statute of limitations expire on Burisma.
They ignored all of Hunter's other crimes that he committed to serve his family.
And they only pursued these gun charges at the last minute because, you know, they got the ridiculous plea deal was ripped apart by a federal judge.
That's the only reason that they were trying to save faith by doing this, thinking they could get through this.
But now that this laptop is in evidence, it proves that it exists.
It uncovers all the lies that this is hundreds of people, I believe, that have partaken in the corruption that the Biden family has been engaged in, and they all need to be held accountable.
Absolutely every one of them.
Well, it's not going to happen under a weaponized justice system led by Merrick Garland.
We know that.
I mean, Merrick Garland is out there attacking his critics and saying that, you know, attacks on his justice system is dangerous for people's safety.
Isn't it more dangerous when you have the likes of Alvin Bragg and Letitia James running against one man, Donald Trump, one family, the Trump family, one organization, the Trump organization?
You know, why isn't Merrick Garland critical of these statements made as candidates, Letitia James, candidate Alvin Bragg?
Listen, I know a lot of people are wondering: whoever has this job, are they going to convict Donald Trump?
Look, that is the number one issue.
The Times calls Bragg a talented prosecutor whose successful suit of the Trump Foundation could be invaluable experience for the investigation he'll take over.
As the Chief Deputy Attorney General in New York State, I oversaw some of the office's biggest cases from exposing illegal behavior by the Trump Foundation.
We know there's a Trump investigation.
I have investigated Trump and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation.
I also sued the Trump administration more than 100 times.
We know that the DA is investigating Trump.
When I was at the AG's office, I sued Trump over 100 times for his administration's misconduct and brought a case against the Trump Foundation and held him accountable.
I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.
I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses.
Nobody's going to know my name personally.
That man in the White House who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights.
Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses.
We need to follow his money.
We need to find out where he's laundered money.
We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy.
It's important that everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump are coming to an end.
I look forward to going into the office of Attorney General every day, suing him, defending your rights, and then going home.
What's your reaction to that?
What does that say?
You know, why isn't Merrick Garland critical of that?
Yeah, he should be if he had any integrity at all.
And that's what is shocking to me, just the double standard that we have and how the media mob is allowing the Biden administration to try to say, well, you know, they're also going after Hunter.
You know, we're going after Hunter.
It's our DOJ that's doing that too.
And when what they've done is manipulate the whole last four years to protect Hunter, to protect President Biden.
So Merrick Garland will not do his job.
He is probably at the top of the iceberg as far as who's been directing and orchestrating all of these cover-ups.
But we have to keep pushing and talking the truth.
And I just thank God for President Trump.
I mean, who else can withstand the attacks that he and his family have gone through and get up every day and continue to fight for this country and continue to just say, I'm not going to quit.
I'm going to keep fighting because they're really going to do this to you.
If they're doing it to me, they will do it to every single American.
And it is the truth.
It is the truth.
If we let our justice system go down, we will not have the foundation of this country anymore.
So that's what gives me hope is that we still have President Trump that's running to get back in the White House.
And America's eyes are being opened.
They're seeing all of this corruption play out and they recognize it too.
You know, it's such a difference.
I notice you went through all these vicious attacks in the media mob.
And I'm thinking, and we see what happens with President Trump and all he's been through.
And if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, there's this whole other standard that exists for you.
And I'm at the point where I just scratching my head.
I'm like, why do people even want to bother to do this?
I mean, Donald Trump, if he didn't run for office this time, if he would have just said, you know what, I'm going to bow out, I doubt he'd have any legal issues at all in his life whatsoever.
He'd play golf for the rest of his life, have a great life, talk about the years he was the president of the United States.
And now he's like, he's making statements like, well, if I have to go to jail, I go to jail.
It's worth it because I love my country.
I'm sitting there like in amazement that we have people that are willing to go through this crap because it's so transparent what's going on in the country.
But I will say this.
If this continues, we're not going to have a country anymore.
Yeah, and that's his motivation.
He and I have talked about that so many times, just the fact that he loves this country.
He truly loves America.
And he does believe he needs to do this in order to protect its future.
And that's what is so incredible about him.
There's no man that has seen the American dream play out in front of his own very eyes with his own family members, with people that have worked for him and worked with him for the years.
People who've worked with him love him and how he treats them and doesn't think he's better than anybody else.
He just wants to help them be successful.
And that's what I think is so remarkable is that he still does his job and he truly does it because he's a patriot.
I think that for me, in my role as governor and the attacks and challenges I've gone through, I've had other, I look at what I had the opportunity to do growing up and the opportunities that I had.
And I've got three grandbabies now.
I just can't imagine not giving them a country that provides them with the same opportunities.
If I don't do this and work hard every day and do what I can, who's going to do it better or work harder or put in more time or be willing to take the attacks?
Will it be somebody who's doing it for the right reasons?
So I think we still have to have good people who will step up and tell the truth.
And even though it's challenging and you know you're going to get attacked and you're willing to, you have to do it or else we will lose this country.
And, you know, attacks come from all sides.
Everybody's got a motivation for coming after you.
And my hope is that we can be more unified and recognize you've got a lot more in common than we do different.
We just need to have a country that was what our founders envisioned, that we protect that constitution, our constitutional rights, and that people still have the opportunity to live their lives with freedom.
Quick break right back more with South Dakota Governor Christy Noam on the other side.
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It's South Dakota.
Governor Christy Noam is with us.
Just the last two days, this is how bad things have gotten under Biden.
Nearly two-thirds of middle-class Americans say they're struggling financially.
They're gasping for air.
And another report, more than 25% of our fellow Americans now have resorted to skipping meals to avoid paying inflated grocery store prices.
I mean, that's not the country that I understand anymore.
You know, we had been so past that.
We were prospering when President Trump was in office.
Yeah, I was just in Wisconsin for a couple of days campaigning for President Trump and doing some events and talking with people, talking with a lot of women and visiting with folks that were trying to make up their minds on this election.
And universally, the number one issue that they were struggling with was how much tighter their budgets are, how many different decisions they're having to make now than they did four years ago.
They can't go to a grocery store and buy everything that's on their list anymore.
They have to pick and choose, or they have to not fill their car all the way up with gas.
They're filling it with a half a tank and they're choosing not to go out to dinner or to go to a movie with their kids.
You know, their lives have changed and they're recognizing and feeling it.
So while the Democrats will try to demonize and attack people and make this election into a one-issue election, it's just not.
People recognize their lives have changed.
They're not safer.
They're not doing better.
And that they need Donald Trump back in the White House in order to get those chances back.
Let me ask you another question.
I saw a bunch of lunatic, I guess, Klan members were in your state protesting.
I mean, I wouldn't have expected that in South Dakota, to be honest.
No, they were not from South Dakota.
They're traveling to every state capitol and protesting, and they were quickly removed from our state capitol grounds.
And we told them they were not welcome here, and they got on their bus and left.
So they did it specifically to protest the bill that we signed in South Dakota this year that I brought forward to define anti-Semitism and to know what it is so that we could stand up against hate crimes and hate language and hate speech.
And they came here and were speaking about that bill while they were here, but they were not here long because they were asked to leave and told to leave.
And we were thankful when they got out of South Dakota.
They knew they were not welcome here.
In fact, I think they made a stop in Deadwood on the way out of town, too.
And I heard as soon as people saw them that they even the public was in their faces and telling them they were not welcome in South Dakota.
So I'm proud of the people who live in South Dakota.
We recognize that we will not facilitate anything such as that kind of hate speech and that kind of activity in our state.
Well, good for you, Governor.
And we always appreciate you being with us.
I think you're joining us on TV tonight as well.
We'll see you then.
We'll get more reaction to the verdict in Hunter Biden.
And more importantly, now that the laptop is real, well, what's Merritt Garland's Weaponized Justice Department going to do?
Probably nothing.
We appreciate you being with us, Governor Christy Noam.
Thank you.
You bet, Sean.
See you later.
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