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Best of Hannity - Rep. Chip Roy - May 24th, Hour 1

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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, an effort started yesterday by conservative House Republicans, along with the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, legislation that is aimed at blocking non-citizens from voting in U.S. elections.
It may surprise you that it didn't become law.
It got stopped in the courts.
But in New York City, for example, they wanted to allow illegal immigrants to vote local elections.
In D.C., we just had recently the city council there voting to allow illegal immigrants to vote in local elections.
But anyway, they held the big press conference yesterday with the leaders in the House and the Senate.
It's being spearheaded by Congressman Chip Roy in the House and Senator Mike Lee in the Senate.
And the bill obviously comes amid this flood of what are illegal immigrants, over 10 million unvetted Joe Biden illegals.
I'll keep repeating tens and tens of thousands from our top geopolitical foes, and that would be China and Russia.
That would be Egypt and Afghanistan and Yemen.
That would be Iran.
That would be Syria.
And they're all flooding into the country, which means that unfortunately for all of us, that it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when this country is going to be attacked again.
I have no doubt in my mind, and I pray to God that I'm wrong, but I know I'm not.
Now the issue comes down to, okay, well, Democrats, they don't want voter ID.
Why not?
They don't want signature verification.
But this bill obviously now has become important and necessary amid this flood of Joe Biden unvetted illegal immigrants in the country and Democrats fighting hard to allow illegal immigrants.
I mean, think about this.
It makes no sense, does it?
Why would they be allowed to vote in any election?
And by the way, it's not just New York and D.C. Other parts of the country have been dealing with this as well.
Anyway, Congressman Chip Roy of Texas is back with us.
Congressman, great to have you.
Thank you for being with us.
I can't even believe we're at a point in this country where this has to be even considered as law.
I can't believe we're at a point in this country where you need an ID, for example, to go visit.
If I wanted to go visit you in Congress, I'd need a picture ID to be able to get in the Capitol.
The last time I voted before I exited New York and became a full-time resident of Florida this year, you know, sure enough, I walked in.
Hi, Mr. Hannity, how are you?
And I start to pull out my wallet.
Oh, you don't need an ID.
I'm like, oh, figures, right?
Anyway, Chip Roy, welcome back to the program.
Tell us the status of all this and what you're planning to do here.
Sean, great to be on.
And yeah, you just laid it out perfectly well, as usual.
And yesterday, I just wanted to say was, I think, a really good day for what I think ought to be a strong six-month run of Republicans demonstrating how radical and extreme the radical progressive Democrat agenda really is.
We had two things yesterday.
One, a press conference that you just described, where we put forward with Speaker Mike Johnson sitting there with me, Senator Mike Lee, who's doing the Senate version of the bill you just described, which we call the SAVE Act, which is designed to say that it will be federal law to require documentary proof of citizenship when you register to vote in federal elections and that we want to make sure that uh that only citizens are therefore able to vote uh and
that states are able to enforce that law which currently they're not able to there is a federal law now that says that only citizens vote but in the motor voter laws it prohibits the states from doing the things necessary to check that citizenship which is crazy We've had good bills to say that we'll allow states to do it.
This bill goes further because of the times where we stand today to just say, look, it is our duty in Congress to require that if you're voting in a federal election, you're going to have to show proof of citizenship.
That's it.
Guess what?
That is an 87% issue if you pull it.
Like 80% of Democrats support that, Sean.
It's off the charts.
So we put that out there.
I hope we can move that through the House.
We're going to try to do that in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker Johnson is demonstrating great leadership on that point.
And then hopefully we'll send it to the Senate and see what they do.
I mean, look, my guess is they'll oppose it and not bring it up.
But you know what?
Good luck explaining that.
The second thing that we did yesterday was we passed a bill on the floor of the House to require that we check citizenship status in the census and then only use citizens when we do apportionment of our members of Congress.
Literally on a party line vote, 202 Democrats unanimously oppose 202 to 206.
You can't get one Democrat, not one that supports this?
Not one?
It's shocking, but very revealing of the current state of the radical progressive Democrats that has been, frankly, undermining every bit of what we've been trying to do for the last two years.
I have been, and we don't need to get into this in detail, obviously at times a critic of Republicans not pushing harder at times.
But I want all the listeners, all the conservatives out there to understand we have held the ball on our side of the field, meaning we've had flat spending on non-defense.
We increased defense spending by cutting the IRS.
We ended any discussion of amnesty.
We moved a good border security bill.
We now have passed this legislation to try to fix what's going on with our apportionment of our members of Congress.
And by the way, the Electoral College for President and these radical progressive Democrats want none of it.
They blocked us at every turn.
They stopped HR2.
They fought us on spending.
They're fighting us on this common sense proposal to make sure that our voting rolls are protected and to make sure that our apportionment is for citizens only.
This is the state of the modern Democratic Party, Sean.
So explain to me why anybody would be against this, because if you're not for election integrity laws as simple, as basic, and as fundamental as you are describing here, there's got to be a reason for it.
And I would imagine that we're beginning to see that reason reveal itself when you see radical Democrats in New York City and D.C. and other leftist havens around the country as they unite together to allow illegal immigrants to vote in local elections.
Because as you rightly point out, there is federal law that prevents them from voting in federal elections.
But you're taking this a step further.
You're saying if you want to register to vote, you've got to show that you're an American citizen.
Why is that so onerous?
Why is that considered unfair?
What is their argument against that?
Because why do I need to show, you know, I'm not exactly 18 years old anymore, and I don't look like I'm 18 years old.
And yet I have to show an ID if I'm going to buy a jewel pod or if I'm going to buy a six-pack of Coors Light or whatever else I might be drinking on any given day.
Yeah.
Sean, look, I think what we're seeing is, remember if you go back in time, we had differences with our Democratic colleagues, but you had Democrats like Barbara Jordan, right, a known civil rights champion and someone that broke ceilings from Texas.
Barbara Jordan chaired a commission on illegal immigration under President Clinton, in which she made very clear the need for strong border security and to end the flow of illegal immigration because it was bad for immigrants, bad for America.
We've had such a move away from common sense by our Democratic colleagues.
Democrats voted for the law that currently exists that says only citizens can vote.
But I bet if you held that vote today on just that question, they would have problems getting any Democrats to support it.
We'll see, because obviously the overwhelming majority of Americans support it, but they're so out of touch because they don't believe in sovereignty.
They don't believe in American exceptionalism.
They don't believe, frankly, that we should even have a border at all.
They don't believe we should have fences and restrictions and ability to come into the United States.
And again, I remind people out there who I know I've got a lot of my faith friends, people of faith, who are like, Chip, but you know, we got to make sure and everybody's all in their welcome and we're a nation of immigrants.
I know, but guess what?
51.5 million people in the United States today are foreign-born.
We allow in about a million a year legally.
This trope that we're anti-immigrant and don't allow immigrants to come in is fake.
It's not true.
It's fake news.
The fact is, we're a nation of immigrants, but we're at a point now where we're exploding the numbers of illegal immigration, known people who want to do us harm.
And now on this issue, Democrats who want people to come here and vote, regardless of their citizenship, as you pointed out, in D.C., San Francisco, liberal havens, that's what they want.
They're already doing it in state and local elections.
They want to do it in federal elections.
And that's why we have to act.
We have a duty in a republic.
Texas has to protect our vote against the radicals in San Francisco.
And same, Florida.
You have to protect against the radicals in your former state of New York.
All right, quick break.
Right back more with Congressman Chiproy of Texas.
And then your calls on the other side, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
We continue now with Congressman Chiproy, great state of Texas.
You know, as I listen to you, what I like about this issue, and I've talked a lot about 90-10 or in this case, 87-13 issue, 80-20 issues, 75-25 issues.
In other words, on all of these important issues of the day, I think it should be the business of the House to put all of these issues before every Democrat and Republican for that matter, because with all due respect, Congressman, you have some weak rhino-Republicans that I'm really fed up and disgusted with among your coalition.
I really am.
You were there the night.
It was after Mike Johnson became Speaker.
I brought everybody together and I said, you're going to succeed together or you're going to fail together.
And I wasn't wrong in my prediction, but I would like to take every major issue from immigration, voting integrity issues, as you're bringing up here.
I want to talk about late-term abortion, taxpayer-funded abortion.
I want to talk about the economy and balanced budgets.
I want to talk about defund, dismantle, no-bail laws, et cetera, and support of Israel's right to win the war against terrorism that they're now engaged in, that Joe Biden has abandoned them on.
And I'd like to get the Democrats on record before the election on November 5th, which is really before November 5th, because early voting, voting by mail, begins God knows how early this year.
And we have all that on Hannity.com, but I think this should be a vote on every major issue so that the voters are very aware where every single candidate stands on every single issue, Republican and Democrat.
Well, Sean, I could not agree more.
This is why I said I think yesterday was a great day for the next six months where we align and we do what we need to do to demonstrate to the American people where there is a clear line of distinction between our Democratic colleagues and ourselves.
Again, they are radical progressive Democrats who want wide open borders, who don't mind undermining the rule of law, who are fine putting criminals on the streets, who undermine police at every turn, who spend money at every turn, who want to increase your taxes, who want all to go down the list, all of the woke stuff, undermining the military, all the things.
They are radically opposed to your way of life if you're a hardworking American.
They're forgiving student loans.
They're fueling all of this nonsense and the hatred and anti-Semitism on our campus.
By the way, didn't we have a Supreme Court ruling on the issue of student loans?
I mean, don't we have laws that Joe Biden is not enforcing on the border?
How is he getting away with all of that?
Well, in part, he's getting away with it because you have weak Republicans that won't stand on principle on a lot of these issues, haven't supported people like Jim Jordan and James Comer in their investigations and the work that they've been doing.
Obviously, you know, I think it's clear the quid pro quo with Joe and Bree.
Why would a vice president go against the administration policy, leverage a billion taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor in Ukraine fired unless you find out that his drug addict son, who has no experience in oil, energy, gas, coal, or Ukraine, is getting paid millions by a big oil conglomerate in Ukraine.
I mean, all of this stuff should be no-brainers for Republicans, but you know what?
You have a coalition there of left-wing Republicans that are no help.
No, that's exactly right.
And that's an important point without going too far backwards because we need to look forwards in beating Democrats.
But this is where, to some degree, both Kevin McCarthy and Mike Johnson's hands are certainly, if not tied, they were undermined by certain members of the conference who just vote the wrong way.
Let me give you an example.
We forced all those votes last year on appropriation bills.
We were changing the House in a good way.
One of the votes we had in September was when we had a vote on defunding UNRWA entirely.
Now, we had worked into the base bill language I put forward to undo a lot of UNRWA's damage, but we had a full defund vote three weeks before, less than three weeks before the 10-7, the October 7th attacks on our friends in Israel.
Eight Republicans voted against that.
There are numerous examples I could give you, Sean, where we're trying to fight to actually wrestle control of the party back away from the uniparty and some weak Republicans.
The bottom line is, to answer your question, until Republicans figure out that you have to unite to use the power of the purse to force change from an executive branch that's not following your rules or following what you put forward or following the law, then you're never going to change it.
Anthony Scalia gave a great speech on this, and I'm happy to send it to you, where he made this whole point when people are complaining about the court not fixing some things.
He's like, look, we can fix certain things when it's a violation of law, but Congress has to flex its muscle to stop an executive branch that's out of control.
So here we are.
We're putting forward now great legislation on making sure only citizens can vote.
We're going to keep pushing that issue.
We're going to keep pushing border security.
We have the spending fight here and for the fiscal 25, we probably need to kick a CR into next year so we can focus on getting President Trump elected and then fix all of this then.
Well, that's where the clock is now.
You got 179 days, Congressman.
Work hard.
We need you.
We appreciate your time.
Congressman Chiproy, Texas.
Thank you, sir.
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I go back to this issue as Joe Biden.
You know, it's really frustrating to me.
He's just outright lying.
It's sort of like him saying, the border is secure.
The border is closed.
No, it's Trump's fault three years later.
No, it's Biden.
They were bragging about everything they've done.
And it's a disaster.
Just like, you know, defund, dismantle, no bail laws are a disaster.
Just like the economy has been a disaster, just like foreign policy is a disaster.
Anyway, you know, he's so clueless and out of touch.
You know, after being told that grocery prices are up 30%, a very rare sit-down interview became a disaster for him on fake news CNN.
And by the way, even Aaron Burnett didn't actually have the nicest things to say about Joe Biden, which I thought was pretty interesting.
But anyway, this is Joey, your president, trying to put a positive spin on the economy.
And it just shows how clueless and out of touch he is.
And remember, inflation in the last two months, CPI numbers went up 3.2% year over year and 3.5% up year over year.
Okay, what does that mean?
Inflation is not going down.
That's 3.5% up from last year, year over year.
And, you know, he inherited inflation rate of 1.4%.
But anyway, he's not living in the real world.
Listen.
You're aware of many of these, of course.
The cost of buying a home in the United States is double what it was when you look at your monthly costs from before the pandemic.
Real income, when you account for inflation, is actually down since you took office.
Economic growth last week, far short of expectations.
Consumer confidence, maybe no surprise, is near a two-year low.
With less than six months to go to Election Day, are you worried that you're running out of time to turn that around?
We're already turning around.
We have the strongest economy in the world.
Let me say it again: in the world.
Although GDP last week was far short of expectations.
Oh, it wasn't.
Look, GDP is still growing.
Look for response to the markets.
But there's real pain.
I mean, grocery prices are up 30%, more than 30%, since the beginning of the pandemic.
And people are spending more on food and groceries than they have at any time really in the past 30 years.
I mean, that's a real day-to-day pain that people feel.
No, it really is.
And it's real.
But the fact is that if you take a look at what the people have, they have the money to spend.
And I played this earlier, but it's worth playing again.
David Axelrod keeps saying, oh, well, the economy improved.
He doesn't even believe that.
But he's saying that he's out of touch with the American people.
And this pride of his may cost Biden the election.
That part interests me.
Listen.
That's not the way people are experiencing the economy.
They're experiencing it through the lens of the cost of living.
And he is a man who's built his career on empathy.
Where is why not lead with the empathy?
And I think he's making a terrible mistake.
You know, it may not be, if he doesn't win this race, it may not be Donald Trump that beats him.
It may be his own pride.
And John King pointing out that Biden better be careful with all this positive economic talk.
They have tried this Bidenomics game forever.
Let's push Bidenomics.
We're not going to talk about Bidenomics anymore.
No, let's go back to Bidenomics.
Anyway, here's even John King trying to warn him.
I can tell you from my travels eight months now, nine states now, he has to be careful with that.
He's right.
When he cites the statistics, he is right.
When he says the Michigan Consumer Confidence Survey, 65% say they're doing better off.
Guess what?
The 35% who don't, a lot of those are his voters.
They should be his voters.
When you travel the cost of living, in Michigan, with those younger voters, we also are starting to put together a group of autoworkers.
Their union has endorsed Biden.
Most of them are going to vote for Biden.
But you asked them what life is like, and they can't buy a bigger house because of mortgage rates.
They still, when you talk about grocery prices.
And so the president has to be careful here.
That sounds like somebody in Washington telling people you're wrong.
And whatever your party is, voters don't process it that way.
They don't like that.
All right.
Joining us now on the real state of the economy, Vance Jinn is with us, former chief economist for the Office of Management and Budget, currently founder and president of Gin Economic Consulting, host of Let the People Prosper podcast.
Our friend E.J. Antoni, public finance economist at the Heritage Foundation.
Welcome both of you.
You know, you would think E.J., with all the bad news and inflationary pressures coming back in dramatic ways and all those expected rate reductions that are not going to happen or materialize and the soft landing that's not materializing.
You would think that Joe would have gotten the message by now.
But apparently, I guess the people around him are too gutless to tell him the truth about the economy.
Well, Sean, either that or they've told him time and time again, and the old man just can't remember.
I mean, honestly, at this point, I don't know what is worth it.
What is worse?
Is the president just senile and doesn't remember the facts, or is he just a complete and total liar?
I mean, you outlined it very well already, Sean, where inflation actually was 1.4%.
It didn't get up to 9% until a year and a half into his presidency.
And by the way, President Trump handed Biden an economy growing at a $1.5 trillion annualized rate.
By the time Biden managed to achieve that 9% annual inflation rate, he had turned that into two consecutive negative quarters of economic growth.
In other words, a recession.
Yeah.
Hey, Vance, let me ask you, what's your take on all this happy talk?
And do you agree with even Axelrod and John King that he better be careful?
The American people are living a very different reality.
60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck.
And then we learned about a week and a half ago that about 26% of Americans in the last year have struggled to even put food on their table.
The worst of any of the G7 nations.
I mean, that ought to shock the spine and soul of anybody that cares.
Well, it should.
It's a pleasure to be with you, Sean.
And I think y'all are exactly right what you're talking about here is that the president is just on a different planet.
He doesn't see exactly what's going on in the economy.
I know they've got to talk up the economy as much as possible, given Bidenomics and everything else.
But the fact is that this is a dismal economy.
Whenever you have real, meaning inflation-adjusted purchasing power or average weekly earnings are down about 4% since Biden took office, people can't keep up with everything that's going on around them.
And it's just one thing after another.
They don't have enough in savings to pay for a rainy day or get their tires fixed.
And so while they like to tout the jobs numbers that keep coming out, and of course they keep being revised down lower, and then they'll say, you know, the unemployment rate is 3.9%.
It's been below 4% for so many months.
But yeah, if you include the labor force participation rate that is lower, even compared to February of 2020, the unemployment rate would be higher than 5%, closer to 6%.
So this is not a good economy, high inflation, a stagnating economic growth.
So it's a period of stagflation that is going to continue because of the big government spending policies out of DC and the Federal Reserve printing more money than what they know what to do with.
So this is a bad situation for Americans.
I'm glad you said stagflation because I think I'm the only one that's been saying we're in a period of stagflation because we are.
And look, I'm not the expert on the economy.
Both of you are.
This is your business.
However, instinctively, and I understand you can never time the markets.
If you try to, you're being stupid.
I think wealth preservation for many people is way more important than maybe a higher rate of return that they might get investing in the stock market or what they might have gotten in recent years.
But I just, in my gut, I have a feeling that we are headed for a massive correction, and I think things are going to get worse.
The inversion scares me, E.J., and I don't know when it's going to happen, but I'm pretty certain it's going to happen.
Do you agree or disagree?
Sean, I agree, and I think a lot of other investors do too.
And this is a big reason why what you would normally see as typical flights to safety, things like gold, have been on an absolute tear this year.
A lot of people have lost confidence in this economy, in the government, in the market, et cetera.
And so they're not as concerned, as you were saying, they're not as concerned with a return on investment.
They're more so concerned with just trying to preserve their wealth because you have this dual threat today of low economic growth and also inflation.
As you said, this is the stagflation recipe that was so detrimental to investors in the 1970s, and it's coming back to bite us today.
In most of the 1970s, Sean, investors saw a huge positive rate of return, at least nominally.
But then once you took out inflation, it was deeply, deeply negative.
You know, Vance, let me ask you this, because I reduced my exposure to the market as much as I possibly could without penalty.
As you know, you can move money out of the stock market or funds that you might be a part of into treasuries, which were, you know, one, two-year treasury is paying what, a little over 5% of the time.
I'll take 5% in terms of a return on my money, but knowing it's safe over risking what I think could likely happen maybe sooner than later, which is a major correction in the stock market.
And I mean a major one.
Yeah, I think you're right, Sean.
And one thing you want to look at is the PE ratios, price to earning ratios, which are still well above historical norms.
And so we are due for what I believe to be a major correction.
And we've been propped up here and there.
And every time that Jerome Powell at the Fed talks, you see wild variation, volatility in the stock market.
And this is what happens whenever you have government is basically controlling the economy through government spending, through taxes, through regulations, and through money printing.
This is a socialist economy that creates a situation of less economic growth and higher inflation and people having so much uncertainty about the economy, whether their businesses, whether they're going to continue to advance and be able to hire workers, or from your point, about the amount of returns they're going to get on their investments.
And one thing I would say also about the economy and the labor market is while non-farm employment has continued to increase, over the last year, the household employment is essentially flat.
It's been down for the last five months.
So we're already starting to see the slowdown in economic activity hitting Americans hard across the economy.
Yeah, and it's hurting a lot of people that I know.
All right, quick break, right back.
More with Van Skin on the other side, as well as E.J. Antonio.
We'll get to your calls coming up as well.
800-941 Sean, if you want to join us.
All right, we continue.
Our economic gurus, Vance Ginn, is with us as well as E.J. Antonio.
Here's the most frightening thing.
Let me play for you this guy, Jared Bernstein, who's the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors.
By the way, he doesn't have any background educationally in the economy.
All right, just put that out there.
He's the White House Council of Economic Advisors chair.
And anyway, he was interviewed for a new film called Finding the Money, and it's a documentary.
And he said the U.S. government can't go bankrupt because we print money.
His ignorance level is so high.
I'm shocked.
EJ, listen to this.
Like you said, they print the dollar.
So why does the government even borrow?
Well, I mean, again, some of this stuff gets some of the language that the MM, some of the language and concepts are just confusing.
I mean, the government definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money, which is why the government definitely prints money, and then it lends that money by selling bonds.
Is that what they do?
Yeah, they sell bonds.
Yeah, they sell bonds, right?
Since they sell bonds, and people buy the bonds and lend them the money.
Yeah, so I don't get it.
I don't know what they're talking about.
Because it's like the government clearly prints money.
It does it all the time, and it clearly borrows.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this debt-and-defici conversation.
So I don't think there's anything confusing there.
How chilling is that, EJ?
Sean, that explains very, very well why we are in the economic shape we are today, because those are the kinds of people at the helm in the White House.
Somebody, as you said, who has no economics background.
He's a musician-turned social worker, and somehow that landed him as chair of the Council of Economic Advisors.
I mean, this is absolutely insane, but it helps explain how we have gotten such disastrous policies in place to create stagnant economic growth, runaway inflation.
I mean, it is absolutely appalling that people like this can be allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
Yeah, unbelievable.
We'll give you the last word here, Vance, and we have to run.
Yeah, no, it is unbelievable.
I remember being in the White House and talking with the chair at the time with Kevin Hassett.
He would never have answered it that way in the Trump administration.
And there was a totally different type of economic policy, one of reducing taxes, reducing regulations, and allowing for people to have more individual liberty and freedom.
That's what's going to create more opportunities to prosper, not this MMT, modern monetary theory nonsense that Jared Verdeste may or may not know about, but plenty in the Biden administration do.
And it's exactly what happens in places like Venezuela.
The government definitely prints money, right?
Is that right?
Definitely prints money and definitely lends money, right?
Right?
Wow.
That's pretty frightening.
Anyway, I do know I trust you guys a hell of a lot more than I trust this guy.
Anyway, Vance, thank you.
EJ, thank you.
Appreciate both of you.
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