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Economy IS Failing - May 9th, Hour 3
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Well, in terms of his campaign, you know, I am thinking back, and other people are making this reference.
That this uh may be Biden's Vietnam.
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You know, it's really frustrating to me.
He's just outright lying.
It's sort of like him saying, the border is secure.
The border is closed.
No, it's Trump's fault three years later.
No, it's Biden.
They were bragging about everything they've done, and it's a disaster.
Just like, you know, defund, dismantle, no bail laws are a disaster.
Uh just like the economy has been a disaster, just like foreign policy's a disaster.
Anyway, you know, he's so clueless and out of touch.
You know, after being told that grocery prices are up 30%.
A very rare sit-down interview became a disaster for him on fake news CNN.
And by the way, even Aaron Burnett uh didn't actually have the nicest things uh to say uh about Joe Biden, which I thought was pretty interesting.
Uh but anyway, this this is Joey, your president, trying to put a positive spin on the economy, and it just shows how clueless and out of touch he is.
And and remember, inflation in the last two months, CPI numbers went up 3.2% year over year and 3.5% up year over year.
Okay, what does that mean?
Inflation is not going down.
That's three and a half percent up from last year, year over year.
And he, you know, he inherited inflation rate of 1.4%.
But anyway, he's not living in the real world.
Listen.
The cost of buying a home in the United States is double uh what it was when you look at your monthly costs from before the pandemic.
Real income, when you account for inflation, is actually down since you took office.
Economic growth last week, far short of expectations.
Consumer confidence, maybe no surprise, is near a two-year low.
With less than six months to go to election day, are you worried that you're running out of time to turn that around?
We've already turned it around.
We have the strongest economy in the world.
Let me say it again, in the world.
Although GDP last week was far short of expectations.
Oh, it wasn't.
Look, GDP is still growing.
Look at the response of the markets.
But there's real pain.
I mean, grocery prices are up 30%, more than 30%, uh uh since the beginning of the pandemic, and people are spending more on food and groceries than they have at any time, really, in the past 30 years.
I mean, that's a real day-to-day pain that people it really is.
And it's real.
But the fact is that if you take a look at what the people have, they have the money to spend.
Then I I played this earlier, but it's worth playing again.
David Axelrod keeps saying, oh well, the economy improved.
He doesn't even believe that.
Uh, but he's saying that he's out of touch with the American people.
And this pride of his may cost Biden the election.
That part interests me.
Listen.
That's not the way people are experiencing the economy.
They're experiencing it through the lens of uh the cost of living.
And he is a man who's built his career on empathy.
Where Where is why not lead with the empathy?
And I think he's making a terrible mistake.
You know, uh it may not be if he doesn't win this race, it may not be Donald Trump that beats him, it may be his own pride.
And John King pointing out that that Biden better be careful with all this positive economic talk.
They have tried this Bidenomics game forever.
Let me let's push Bidenomics.
Let's push uh we're not going to talk about Bidenomics anymore.
No, let's go back to Bidonomics.
Anyway, here's even John King trying to warn him.
I can tell you from my travels, eight months now, nine states now.
He has to be careful with that.
Uh in this sense.
He's right.
When he cites the statistics, he is right.
When he says the Michigan Consumer Confidence Survey, 65% say they're doing better off.
Guess what?
The 35% who don't, a lot of those are his voters.
They should be his voters when you travel the cost of living.
We're in Michigan, we met with those younger voters.
We also are starting to put together a group of auto workers.
Their union has endorsed Biden.
Most of them are going to vote for Biden.
But you ask them what's life is like, and they can't buy a bigger house because of mortgage rates.
Uh they still when you talk about grocery prices.
Uh and so the president has to be careful here.
Uh that sounds like somebody in Washington telling people you're wrong.
And whatever your party is, voters don't process it that way.
They don't like that.
All right, joining us now on the real state of the economy.
Vance Jin is with us, former chief economist for the Office of Management and Budget, currently founder and president of Gin Economic Consulting, host of Let the People Prosper Podcast, our friend E. J. Antoni, public finance economist at the Heritage Foundation.
Uh welcome both of you.
You know, you would think EJ, with all the bad news and inflationary pressures coming back in dramatic ways and all those expected rate uh reductions that are not going to happen or materialize and the soft landing that's not materializing.
Uh you would think that Joe would have gotten the message by now, but apparently I guess the people around him are too gutless to tell him the truth about the economy.
Well, Sean, either that or they've told him time and time again, and and the old man just can't remember.
I mean, honestly, at this point, I don't know what is worth it.
What is worse is the president just senile and doesn't remember the facts, or is he just a complete and total liar?
I I mean you you outlined it very well already, Sean, where inflation actually was 1.4%.
It didn't get up to 9% until a year and a half into his presidency.
And by the way, President Trump handed Biden an economy growing at a 1.5 trillion dollar annualized rate.
By the time Biden managed to achieve that nine percent annual inflation rate, he had turned that into two consecutive negative quarters of economic growth.
In other words, a recession.
Yeah.
Hey Vance, let me let me ask you, what what's your take on all this happy talk?
And do you agree uh with even Axelrod and John King that you know he better be careful?
This is the American people are living a very different reality.
Sixty percent of Americans living paycheck to paycheck.
And then we learned about a week and a half ago that about twenty-six percent of Americans in the last year have struggled to even put food on their table.
The worst of any of the G7 nations.
I mean, that ought to shock the so the the spine and soul of anybody that cares.
Well, it should.
It's a pleasure to be with you, Sean.
Um and I think you're exactly right what you're talking about here is that the president is just on a different planet.
He doesn't see exactly what's going on in the economy.
I know they've got to talk up the economy as much as possible, given Bidenomics and everything else, but it the fact is that this is a dismal economy.
Whatever you have real, meaning inflation adjusted purchasing power or average weekly earnings are down about four percent since Biden took office.
People can't keep up with everything that's going on around them, and it's just one thing after another.
They don't have enough in savings to pay for a rainy day or get their tires fixed.
Um so while they like to tout the jobs numbers that keep coming out, and of course they keep being revised down lower, and then they'll say, you know, uh the unemployment rate is 3.9%.
It's four it's been below four percent for so many months.
But yeah, if you include the labor force participation rate that is lower even compared to February of 2020, um the unemployment rate would be higher than five percent, closer to six percent.
So this is not a good economy, high inflation, a stagnating economic growth.
So it's a period of stagflation that is gonna continue because of the big government spending policies out of DC and the Federal Reserve printing more money than then what they didn't know what to do with.
So this is a bad situation for Americans.
I'm glad you said stagflation because I think I'm the only one that's been saying we're in a period of stagflation because we are.
And look, I'm not the expert on the economy.
Both of you are.
This is your business.
However, instinctively, and I understand you could never time the markets.
If you try to, you're being stupid.
I think wealth preservation for many people is way more important than maybe a higher rate of return that they might get investing in the stock market or what they might have gotten in recent years.
But I just in my gut, I have a feeling that we are headed for a massive correction.
And I think things are going to get worse.
The inversion scares me, EJ.
And I don't know when it's going to happen, but I'm pretty certain it's going to happen.
Do you agree or disagree?
Sean, I I agree, and I I think a lot of other investors do too, and this is a big reason why uh what you would normally see as uh typical flights to safety things like gold have been on an absolute tear this year.
A lot of people have lost confidence in this economy, in the government, in the market, etc.
And so they're not as concerned as you were as you were saying, they're not as concerned with a return on investment.
They're more so concerned with just trying to preserve their wealth because you have this dual threat today of low economic growth and also inflation.
As you said, this is the stagflation recipe that was so detrimental to investors in the 1970s, and it's coming back to bite us today.
You know, in in most of the 1970s, Sean, investors saw a huge positive rate of return, at least nominally.
But then once you took out inflation, it was it was deeply, deeply negative.
You know, Vance, let me ask you this, because I reduced the my exposure to the market as much as I possibly could uh without penalty, as you know, you can move uh money out of the stock market or or funds that you might be a part of into treasuries, which were you know, one two-year treasury is paying what a little a little over five percent of the time.
I'll take five percent in terms of a return on my money, but knowing it's safe over risking what I think could likely happen maybe sooner than later, which is a major correction in the stock market, uh, and I mean a major one.
Yeah, I I think you're right, Sean.
And one thing you want to look at is the PE ratios, price to earning ratios, which are still well above historical norms.
And so we are due for what I believe to be a major correction, and we've been propped up here and there, and every time that Jerome Powell at the Fed talks, you see wild variation and volatility in the stock market.
And this is what happens whenever you have government is um basically controlling the economy through government spending, through taxes, through regulations, and through money printing.
This is a socialist economy that creates a situation of less economic growth and higher inflation, and and people having so much uncertainty about the economy, whether they're businesses, um what whether they're gonna continue to advance to be able to hire workers, or from your point about the amount of returns they're gonna get on their investments.
And and one thing I would say also about the economy and the labor market is while non-farm employment has continued to increase, over the last year, the household employment is essentially flat.
It's been down for the last five months.
So we're already starting to see this the slowdown in economic activity hitting Americans hard across the economy.
Yeah, and it's hurting a lot of people that I know.
All right, quick break, right back more with Vance Gin on the other side as well as EJ Antoni.
We'll get to your calls coming up as well.
800 941 Sean, if you want to join us.
All right, we continue.
Our economic gurus, Van Skin is with us as well as EJ Antoni.
Uh, here's the most frightening thing.
Let me play for you uh this guy, Jared Bernstein, who's the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors.
Uh by the way, he doesn't have any background educationally in the economy.
All right, just put that out there.
He's the White House uh Council of Economic Vir uh Advisors Chair.
And anyway, there was he was interviewed for a new film called Finding the money, and it's a documentary, and he said the U.S. government can't go bankrupt.
And because we print money.
His ignorant level, his ignorance level is so high.
I'm shocked.
EJ, listen to this.
Like you said, they print the dollar.
So why why does the government even borrow?
Well, um the uh so the I mean, again, some of this stuff gets some of the language that the MM, some of the language and concepts are just confusing.
I mean, the government definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money.
Which is why uh the government definitely prints money, and then it lends that money by uh by selling bonds.
Uh is that what they do?
They they um they yeah, they they um they sell bonds.
Yeah, they sell bonds, right?
Since they sell bonds and people buy the bonds and lend them the money.
Yeah.
So I don't I don't get it.
I don't know what they're talking about, like, because it's like the government clearly prints money, it does it all the time, and it clearly borrows.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this debt and deficit conversation.
So I don't think there's anything confusing there.
How chilling is that, EJ.
Sean, that explains very, very well why we are in the economic shape we are today, because those are the kinds of people at the helm in the White House.
Somebody, as you said, who has no economics background.
He's a musician turned social worker, and somehow that landed him as as chair of the council of of economic advisors.
I mean, this is absolutely insane, but it helps explain how we have gotten such disastrous policies in place to create stagnant economic growth, runaway inflation.
I mean, it is absolutely appalling that people like this can be allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
Yeah, unbelievable.
We'll give you the last word here, Vance, and we have to run.
Yeah, no, I i it is unbelievable.
I remember um being in the in the White House and talking with Chief, you know, the chair at the time with Kevin Hassett, he would never have answered it that way in the Trump administration, and there was a totally different type of economic policy, one of reducing taxes, reducing regulations, and allowing for people to have more individual liberty and freedom.
That's what's going to create more opportunities to prosper, not this MMT, modern monetary theory nonsense that Jared Bergstein may or may not know about, but plenty in the Biden administration do, and it's exactly what happens in places like Vinno.
The government definitely prints money, right?
Am I right?
Is that right?
It definitely prints money and definitely let lends money, right?
Right, uh right?
Wow.
That's that that's pretty frightening.
Uh anyway, I do know uh I trust you guys a hell of a lot more than I trust this guy.
Anyway, Vance, thank you.
EJ, thank you.
Appreciate both of you.
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You know, speaking of Israel, uh, in this fake news CNN interview, you know, here's Joe Biden.
Pay very close attention because he's saying he will withhold weapons from Israel if they go into Rafah, going into Rafah what?
Why?
To win the war against the the radical Islamic terrorist group funded by orchestrated by the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran, and Joe is emboldening the radical extremists because he needs to give in to his radical base.
Listen to Joe.
I made it clear that if they go into Rafah, they haven't gone on Rafah yet.
If they go into Rafah, I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafah.
To deal with the city, to deal with that problem.
I've made it clear to BB in the war cabinet.
They're not going to get our support.
If in fact they go in these population centers.
We're not walking away from Israel's security, walking away from Israel's ability to wage war in those areas.
So it's not over your red line yet.
Not yet.
But it's we've we've held up the weapons.
We've held up the one shipment.
As an old shipment's going to be designed.
We've held that up.
Now, we had a very different Joe Biden from 2019.
This is Joe Biden saying we'd never abandon Israel.
Oh, very consistent in terms of his logic and thinking.
You see, in 2019, he didn't have this radical uh pro-Hamas wing of his party that now dominates the radical leftist Marxists that are the Democratic Party of today.
Listen.
But the idea that we would cut off military aid to an ally.
Our only true, true ally in the entire region, is absolutely preposterous.
It's just beyond my comprehension.
Unbelievable.
Abandoning Israel, emboldening our enemies, surrendering in the war on terror.
That's what your president is doing.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
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The free state of Florida.
Matt, how are you, my fellow Floridian, sir?
Glad you called.
Well, I'm doing a lot better than I than I could be, I guess, but I could also be doing worse.
The fact of the matter is that you have to win a war.
You have to win it quickly.
Like President Trump said.
The fact of the matter is they could have already finished this.
What they what they what they did is they pushed them all the way back.
They pushed them off all the way back to Rafa and then stopped to try to stop on the collateral damage.
But this is not how you win a war.
They need to just go ahead and move forward.
Now, Joe said that he's not going to send them any more bombs.
Okay, then they need to come out like this.
They need to do like you had said, get to the bombs from someone else, or just say, okay, we're not going to bomb bomb gas, but we won't be moving our infantry and do a ground war and take God and take it take Rafa out street by street, block by block, terrorist by terrorist, and just don't stop.
And they need to pamphlet the area, tell everybody to get out, give everybody.
Yeah, I I actually disagree with that strategy.
I I don't have a problem with saying to innocent people that they should get out, but you know that Hamas terrorists will be amongst the the civilian population because that's how they roll.
Uh however, uh I I don't think we should ever go back to fighting a war the way we were fighting the war, for example, in Iraq, and that was putting U.S. soldiers on the ground, not going door to door, stepping over one IED after another, or stepping on them and having your legs blown off if you even survived.
Um, I I think with military technology, precision, uh targeting of of the enemy and weapons and their infrastructure, I think that's the way to do it.
And I would I would use that sophisticated technology.
But I think the biggest story here is Joe Biden is has surrendered in the war on terrorism and he surrendered and abdicated America's role as the leader of the free world.
There's no other way to put it.
Yeah, well, the thing of it is the same way with the Pope.
The Pope saying, Oh, I wish they would show restraint against the people of Roth.
I wish they would show restraint against the people of Gaza.
What happens is nobody saying, wait a minute, just release the hostages and this is over.
I the if I was the Pope, I would be saying to the I would be saying to Hamas, release the hostages.
I wouldn't be saying to Israel, take it easy on them.
And the same thing with Joe Biden.
He should not be saying take it easy on them, he should just be saying, release the hostages or you're gonna have to pay.
But that's that's what no one's saying.
I just really wish the nether thing that I could just say, I just wish they would start referring to themselves as the Hebrew people.
People have forgotten.
God is with them because they are the Hebrew people.
You for using that term kill the Jews or uh we're going against the Jewish people, they are the Hebrew people.
Well, all I know is that they're the only democracy in the region.
They're our biggest ally and have been and remain in my heart and mind our biggest ally.
Uh, they're fighting for their very survival, the worst terrorist attack in their history, and the president of our country has now abandoned them and said basically, oh no, you can only play defense.
You you can't fight back.
That's what he has said.
And the repercussions of this position is incalculable.
The damage done is incalculable in terms of of how the world will view us going forward and how our enemies will view us going forward, our friends and our allies.
Anyway, appreciate your call, my friend.
Colorado Barry next, Rocky Mountain.
Hi, sir.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, thanks, uh, Sean.
This is the first time I've ever called.
Hey, I wanted to talk about these polls um for the election.
I hear we hear every day about all you know, these polling results and the demographics and everything else.
But there's a demographic out there that I think a lot of people aren't even thinking about much less talking about.
And this is coming from the lens of um a veteran.
And we see life and we see our country sometimes through a little bit different lens.
Um we have a lot of um very critical uh positions in the United States, you know, filled by people like nurses, uh, police officers, detectives, firefighters, paramedics, doctors, um, you know, oil, oil rig diggers and biologists, you know.
We have all these sectors that are critical to the prosperity prosperity of the United States, the community and national security and everything.
No one's talking about all these people and their friends and combined family members.
Uh like the auto workers.
They're not gonna um they're not gonna believe Joe's uh lies anymore.
So they know their careers in the future, if he gets reelected, they may be out of a job with DEI, AI, the Green Initiative, and all of that.
Tell me any of those people that are gonna actually vote for Biden.
Okay, and so now you got um national security.
I can't imagine one border control agent and his or her friends or family, they're gonna vote for Biden after you know what they've seen.
You gotta remember this is this is the first time in a long time we've had two report cards side by side.
So whether you're a Democrat or Republican, you just have to go by the scores.
What their life was like before and what it's like now and the country and the border and everything else.
Um you got veterans uh that have been fooled down the river.
You have um homeless veterans and you have regular veterans.
And they then, you know, just disrespected by our government and the Biden administration, and now you got the military and active duty service men and women, all of the branches.
These young people in the country now are looking at all this going, Hell no, I'm not gonna re-enl I'm not gonna enlist in the military.
You have the people in the military that want to get out because they don't even know what they're fighting for anymore, and they don't know what they're fighting against, and they have a commander in chief who is horrible and embarrassing in the eyes of the entire world, and then you have the non-commissioned officers.
They run the military like a well-wheeled machine, and they're not re-enlisting.
They're saying the hell with the military, I'm gonna get out and get on with my life.
Um, so Trump's gonna win, and he's gonna win by a bigger margin than these polls are showing because no one's talking about this um silent majority.
Um I'm not gonna say I'm not saying it's gonna be a landslide, but I am saying it's gonna be enough so that Goebbels granddaughter, Hillary Clinton, won't even be able to deny the election results.
Well, I gotta tell you something.
Look, all I could say is, yeah, the polls are encouraging.
I I'm giving them out and I'm studying them every single day.
Uh there's gonna be, and we have an interactive map on Hannity.com that will tell you when and how to register in your state.
It'll tell you when early voting begins in your state, how you vote by mail in your state, and and all leading up to election day.
I'm going to say it again, and I won't stop saying it, and all of you can write online.
Hannity's repetitive.
Yes, I want everybody to to literally burn this into their brains.
Republicans, conservatives better embrace voting early, voting by mail.
They better embrace uh legal ballot harvesting, matching and surpassing the efforts of Democrats.
The Republicans need trained poll watchers in every precinct, watching the voting all day and the vote counting all night.
Those are partisan observers.
They need to push their state legislators to have updated voter roles, chain of custody, uh controls over mail-in ballots, uh, voter ID, signature verification.
That is that that's my message.
And you can say, Hannity, I don't trust it.
Well, it's not the system I want, it's not the system I choose, but the only way you get to change the system is if you win elections.
Anyway, appreciate the call, Barry.
Thank you.
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Chuck in Georgia.
Chuck, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Uh, thanks for taking my call.
Um, hey, uh, just listening to your last conversation.
Um, you know, that that's exactly what I was calling about.
Uh the the Georgia election in 2020 was a mess.
Um I'm very skeptical of the results.
And Brian Kemp, Governor Kemp, he signed three laws into um he signed three laws, and uh I think that I don't know if you've looked over them or not, but I I know that they've embraced like a number of states are are now embracing voter integrity laws, and I I support the governor completely.
Uh, you know, I've had mixed feelings about Governor Kemp, but he's done a lot of good things for the state of Georgia.
And I I just don't know him personally, which is rare.
I I tend to know uh governors, I don't know him.
I I can't recall if I've even had a conversation with them.
Maybe he's been on one of my shows.
I don't, you know, I I can't remember every guest, but uh I'm glad he's done it.
And and I hope that uh I I I hope that he will lend his support.
I hope he understands the danger, even though he may not like Donald Trump.
I hope he understands the the absolute failure that Joe Biden has been for the country and that Trump policies worked.
He doesn't have to like Trump, but uh I think this is a inflection point for the country, and and I hope he'll support him because his word I think goes a long way in Georgia.
His endorsement would go a long way.
And I think laws are gonna go a long way into fixing some of the problems we had in Georgia.
And even uh I hope so.
Uh listen, I hope so, man.
I really do.
I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not worried about it because I am.
Uh eight hundred nine four one Sean Dominic, Pennsylvania.
Uh, Dominic, glad you called.
How are you, sir?
Very fine.
I love talking to you, Sean.
Let me tell you, abortion is the one issue that affects this election.
It affects it not at a presidential level.
It affects it at all levels.
That includes the House of Representatives and the Senate.
The Democrat Party does not care about facts or common sense.
All they're going to say is abortion, abortion, abortion.
And I know your position on abortion, so I'm going to tell you what the real position is.
Everybody is against abortion abuse.
Have you ever heard that term before?
I actually have not.
No.
But I will look, I'll tell you a few things.
Number one, I went through this on TV the other night.
I'll talk more about it.
You're right.
Democrats are going to demagogue abortion.
They're going to lie.
I think it'll be less effective than it was in 2022, but Republicans need to get ahead of it.
And I think Republicans need to understand that where the country is, and I say this as somebody that embraces, you know, life as a miracle from God.
However, I understand too that the rest of the country doesn't agree with me.
And I think where the country is politically is at first trimester or Dobbs 15 weeks.
But Republicans better not allow Democrats to position them as being against uh abortion if they are not.
It's a big issue.
I agree.
Pay attention to it.
800-941 Shauna's our number.
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