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	Uh I got a note earlier today, uh uh, and I've been saying this, uh, of a person that was in the courtroom at the Trump trial in New York City today.
	You can't imagine the panel.
	Not one person, uh, and this was sent to a friend who then forwarded it to me, uh, reads the post, meaning the New York Post or watch Fox watches Fox or listens to talk radio.
	Quote, he is screwed.
	Uh, and literally, you know, it's kind of liberal you just see liberal New Yorker after liberal New Yorker that get their news from Google, MPR, uh CNN and the New York Times.
	Uh I have yet to see one working class person.
	Now the judge in this case was scolding the re press for reporting too much information.
	He said, use common sense.
	What was a little ambiguous in his remarks, and he addressed the press directly and telling them that reporting on too much background information about the jurors defeats the purpose of anonymity, and he said, but I'm directing the press, uh and this is weird.
	He said the press is certainly able and and permitted to write about anything that's on the record, uh, because it's on the record.
	But I'm directing that the press simply applies common sense.
	Well, what does that even mean?
	How do you interpret that?
	I mean, if you say so-and-so is from this place, it in this profession of this age, race, whatever, whatever demographic information you want to give out, I mean, you gotta explain that.
	Of course, prosecutors are furious.
	Trump violated the gag order, you know, seven times.
	Uh, but all the other people in the trial are free to say anything that they want.
	We talked about that yesterday.
	I've said from the beginning, I don't think this is a a fair venue.
	I don't believe that Donald Trump can get an an unbiased jury in this case.
	Uh, we did have one juror that was dismissed and immediately races out to the cameras of MSTNC and uh talks about her time uh being going through this jury process.
	Let's listen.
	I I I I do.
	Um, this is Kat.
	She runs a VC fund here um in Manhattan for folks that are over 60 years um of age.
	She was just dismissed as a potential juror.
	Um, what happened?
	Why were you dismissed?
	Because I couldn't be impartial and you couldn't be impartial.
	So when the judge asked at hand, can you be impartial?
	You raised your hand and you said you cannot.
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	When when did you first come?
	Uh on Tuesday.
	On Tuesday.
	And at that point, when did you realize that this was a trial involving the ex-president of the United States, Donald Trust?
	So we're we're here on Tuesday from 9 a.m.
	Yeah.
	But we realized that it's uh about this case on uh 4 p.m.
	We went into the courtroom and we showed Donald Trump.
	You went into the courtroom at 4 p.m. on Tuesday.
	Exactly.
	You see Donald Trump.
	Yeah, we didn't know before that.
	What was your first thought?
	I was shocked.
	I was sitting on the second row, like uh six feet away.
	And when I realized that Trump is there, I was like, oh wow.
	I couldn't believe it.
	What about the people around you?
	Everybody was shocked.
	Everybody was frozen.
	Not like frozen, no expressions, nothing.
	We were all, you know.
	Did he did that was the case?
	Did he look back at you?
	Did any of the attorneys look back at you at that time?
	Uh sometimes Trump would turn his head.
	Yeah.
	Uh but not Z, yeah.
	Uh he didn't stand up or anything.
	Were you following the case before this?
	I didn't really.
	I I'm too busy.
	You're too busy.
	But you knew he was on trial or you knew he was a good idea.
	I knew yeah, it's just the head glance, but yeah, too busy to read the debate.
	Um have you ever served as a juror before?
	No, that's my first time because I just became a citizen in August.
	Yeah.
	Uh was my first call.
	And so you just became a citizen of the United States.
	Does that mean you've never voted in your presidential exactly?
	You called to be a juror, and this is the jury that you are called to.
	Yes.
	What what was that believable?
	That is unbelievable.
	I know.
	What was your impression of of Donald Trump when you saw him?
	Um, he looked less orange, uh definitely like more yellowish yellow.
	Um doubt he looks uh he doesn't look angry or I think he looks bored, like he wants this to finish and go do his stuff.
	That's how it yeah.
	He looks bored, but he looks less orange.
	And now the fundamental question here is whether that whether Donald Trump in a city that had what twelve percent or less than twelve percent of the electorate vote for him can get an impartial jury uh here to weigh in on this is Roger Severino,
	vice president of domestic policy at Heritage and Trump's former director of the Office of Civil Rights at the Health and Human Services, and uh anyway has a lot of experience as a trial uh attorney in jury selection.
	Um first the ambiguity of the judge's comments, oh you have every right to report on what goes on uh in the courtroom, but use common sense about what you say about jurors.
	I mean, uh what does that mean?
	How did how does anyone determine that?
	All we have ever talked about is w where in New York they're from and where they get the news from for the most part, you know, or whether they're a male or a female or what what demographics they may fit, but that's about it.
	Yeah, it it's very unusual.
	Trials are supposed to be public to ensure there's transparency because a person's life and freedom are on the line in criminal trials.
	So you want to have the public be able to see what's go what goes on in a free society, you don't do trials behind closed doors.
	That's what you do in communist countries where people get disappeared.
	So there has to be a role for the media to be there, and it's very important to get insights into what this jury pool is gonna be that gets selected.
	So the media is important to be reporting on okay, this is the type of questions we're being asked.
	Is a judge asking the right questions.
	Are the lawyers acting within bounds?
	And what about the jurors?
	Are are they missing key aspects of potential bias?
	Because again, we have uh the former president's freedom on the line, and a lot of the benefit of doubt in our constitutional system protects the innocent, and rightly so.
	There's a real question as to whether President Trump can get an impartial jury in Manhattan.
	That's a real question.
	And we're seeing a lot of that play out, given the overwhelming number of jurors that have already been dismissed because they admitted to their credit, they couldn't be fair with President Trump.
	To their credit, I will share that view.
	By the way, the Associated Press, two thirds of Americans are not convinced that Alvin Bragg's case is even legitimate.
	One thing there are a number of things that I doubt this jury's ever gonna learn, at least in that courtroom.
	Uh one is that the judge himself voted for uh sorry, donated to to Joe Biden in twenty twenty to the issue of his daughter and political connections, and that brings up the issue of recusals.
	Uh I don't think they're gonna learn about the gag order preventing Donald Trump from from going out and and speaking about the case, which I think is a violation of his first amendment rights.
	Uh you know, I thought what former A. G. Barr said this is a real threat to democracy, the then that being the progressive left and how this case is an abomination.
	Uh and I think he's exactly right here.
	I think Stephen A. Smith is right when he said he believes Democrats want Trump convicted to avoid facing him in election.
	We're now two hundred days outside of the I think uh tipping point election for this country.
	I I I have a greater sense of urgency that I've ever had.
	And there's a lot that I think that this this jury's never gonna know about this case.
	They're not gonna know that the statute of limitations have run out.
	They're not going to know that that Alvin Bragg is now reaching into federal law as a means of sort of justifying this case.
	A guy that had reduced felony charges to misdemeanors 60 percent of the time, except if your last name's Trump, it goes in the other direction.
	I don't think they're going to hear any of that.
	And and President Trump will have a lot of arguments on appeal if he were to be convicted.
	Okay, on appeal after conviction, uh what are the odds that that is taken care of and handled before the election?
	Yeah, that that's the difficulty.
	We know what the plan was.
	These claims could have been brought years ago, literally years ago, but they waited conveniently at a time that puts President Trump in maximum political peril.
	Now, by and large, it has blown up in their faces.
	The more the radical left goes attacking pres President Trump with lawfare, the more popular he's become, and the more support he's gotten, because people know this is abuse of the justice system.
	The question is, does this Manhattan jury see right through it?
	And the points you raised earlier, there's so many things in the background that the jurors are probably not going to be aware of why this case was brought at all.
	Now it is interesting that two jurors that got through so far, and there's still a few to go, are lawyers.
	And that's very interesting to me because I served on a jury, I was a jury foreman years ago.
	And it tends to happen that one or two people start to dominate the conversations, and I had the personality where I started to dominate um the conversation, and that that makes a tremendous difference.
	Um and lawyers might have an advantage here.
	And if we get a lawyer that says, you know what, this case doesn't make any sense, that just looks at the law dispassionately.
	What does this have to do with campaign finance when we're talking about business records under state law?
	Does this make any sense to anybody?
	It's such a weak case that you might have an impartial lawyer that says to the other jurors, you know what, this doesn't make any sense, and according to the law, he's going to be not guilty.
	Alternatively, you might get a liberal Manhattan lawyer that doesn't like Trump.
	So it could cut both ways.
	Oh, I uh I agree with all of that.
	I mean, so you think actually that might be favorable to Donald Trump, the two attorneys are on this case?
	It's it's very possible.
	I mean, they got they got through, which means Trump's attorneys didn't find enough reason to to strike them, and they still have a couple what they're called preemptory challenges where they don't have to explain why they're striking a juror.
	Right.
	If they find cause in indications of bias, they could there's unlimited people they could pull out if there's evidence of bias.
	But they also a limited number where it's preemptory.
	They could just say, you know what, we just have a bad hunch about this person, they're off the jury.
	There's a few more parentary strikes left and they're saving it.
	All right, quick break more on the latest in this uh ridiculous Trump trial in New York, more with Roger Severino.
	Right, we continue now with analysis of jury selection in the Trump trial with Roger Severino, vice president, domestic policy and heritage.
	Let's get to the issue of the gag order and the recusal issue of the judge in the case.
	Uh do you think the gag order itself is constitutional?
	Uh do you believe that in this case, knowing what we know about the judge, just the fact that he donated to Biden in 2020, I think would be cause for recusal.
	Uh the issue uh that has been brought up by Lee Stefanik and others about the daughter and political uh uh activities that she's been involved in uh that even are are affected by this case.
	Uh would that be grounds for recusal based on the law in New York, which I've laid out many times.
	I won't read uh here but again, but you think it this is grounds for recusal?
	Because the the burden of proof is is fairly high.
	Because it's so politicized, these questions need to be asked about this judge.
	The problem is the judge has already issued a gag order on President Trump.
	And again, the timing of this trial was to try to inflict the maximum political harm to President Trump to prevent from being president to deprive the American people of getting their say through the ballot box instead of putting it in the hands of twelve jurors uh from Manhattan.
	That's been their plan.
	Now, what Trump can do about it is make the case that this is further evidence of a weaponized justice system, banana republic level.
	And he has a constitutional right to be able to say that, to petition the government for redresses to protest it.
	He is running for president of the United States, and he's being deprived of the ability to talk about one of the main issues.
	And the main issue is he needs to uh he wants to fix the broken justice system that has been weaponized against political enemies, right?
	That is a distortion of the constitutional structure that is a key campaign event, and he's living that nightmare right now.
	And the judge is on precarious grounds to try to limit a former president from being able to campaign effectively on an issue of public public concern.
	Well, the judge has been very clear that Donald Trump must be in court every single day, or he will send him to jail uh for however long this trial lasts.
	Estimates are a month or longer.
	Uh that in fact Donald Trump will be literally ceding the entire playing field that is swing states in this election to his opponent Joe Biden, who's been in Pennsylvania for the last couple of days.
	Uh, does that uh and I I would argue too that if Democrats had their way, uh Donald Trump would be in a courtroom from now until November 5th and not have any opportunity to r to run a real campaign.
	Uh at some at some point, uh does that does the Justice Department step in and and follow what, quote, is not unwritten policy that you don't you don't do this just prior to an election?
	Yeah, there is longstanding policy if you don't bring pro political prosecutions right before an election, and that norm has been shattered.
	But the the DOJ, it has all the mar hallmarks of it of the deep state, and they went after Trump with the Russia hoax.
	They and now have been further weaponized under Biden given the complete free reign to go after him.
	So all those norms of non-political interference have been thrown out the window when it comes to Trump.
	And we've seen it in the Kid Calov's treatment they've done with President Biden, uh not going after him or his son for tax evasion, for gun charges, for the uh documents of the secret documents and confidential information that President Biden should not have had in his garage next to his corvette and in the open garage, all these things where you get this differential treatment, a two-tier system of justice, and that's why President Trump has promised to clean house if he gets back into office.
	That is a popular message, but there are all these forces from Judge Gag orders to the cases brought against him to themselves to try to put him in jail and to try to bankrupt him that want to preserve the status quo of the weaponized DOJ to go after political enemies.
	That that has to change.
	This cannot go on.
	It really is unbelievable.
	Anyway, we appreciate your time.
	Uh, Roger Separino.
	Uh, thank you so much for your insight.
	It's gonna get more interesting by the day, that's for sure.
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	We have so much to talk about today.
	Well, this it's I know it's a little off the beaten track, but I I when I saw this, I said, There's no way this could be true.
	But here's the headline.
	It is California lawmakers say buying 16 17 year olds for sex is not a felony.
	California Democrats, well, they decided this past Tuesday that purchasing a sixteen or seventeen-year-old for sex is not a felony.
	Democrats in the Senate Public Safety Committee forced amendments on the bill of the author uh that the author Shannon Grove of Bakersfield objected to.
	Those amendments denied her efforts to protect sixteen and seventeen-year-old children from being purchased as part of a commercial sex trafficking ring.
	Backstory current California law makes it a misdemeanor for anyone who purchases or solicits a minor for sex.
	It only carries a jail sentence of two days to one year and a maximum of ten thousand dollars in terms of a fine.
	And last year, Grove pushed through the Senate Bill 14, which reclassified human traffickers of minors for the purpose of sex as a serious felony under the law.
	Now, while SP 14 went after human traffickers who are selling children for sex, her new proposal goes after the buyers.
	Anyway, her her proposal would make it a felony to purchase or solicit any minor for sex, uh, whether or not the person knew that the minor was under the age of eighteen.
	I I mean, uh what's going on with our society?
	This is what we're talking about.
	It's a big piece in the New York Post today.
	Psychiatrist warned youth gender change must never be questioned.
	You can't question it.
	And then you get into this gender-affirming psychiatric care.
	Gerald uh Posner writes the article as the first textbook dedicated to prov providing affirming intersectional and evidence-informed psychiatric care for ch transgender, non-binary, uh, and or gender expansive people.
	Close examination reveals it's an extremist handbook that could put kids on a fast track from the therapist chair to life-changing hormones, uh, treatments and and surgery.
	In the textbook he points out he believes is more than just a curiosity with the American psychiatric association's you know, reference in this book that is widely used in medical schools by specialists, etc.
	as a practicing psychiatrist and mother of three in Oklahoma City based psychiatrist told me I've I've lost sleep, knowing this textbook is being taught in medical schools and reticencies, uh sold as peer-reviewed necessary, life-saving, and evidence-based, and it is simply not.
	I mean, that's a pretty big shockwave that secret files revealed last month that members of the leading transgender health care organization privately admitting that children and adolescents are incapable of giving informed consent when what is irreversible in terms of you know the medical procedures to which they would be subjected for such care.
	A three hundred and eighty-eight page report from the UK named after the chief author, a pediatrician Hillary Cass, excoriated the lack of scientific evidence for the use of hormones in surgery for gender questioning minors.
	One result is Britain's banning of puberty blockers for those under 18.
	Uh, but this is This is what this is where these are the issues I never thought we'd discuss.
	Like squatting, stealing somebody else's home.
	Unreal.
	Uh a lot of people lost their ability to dial 911 yesterday in three states, according to officials.
	There's a lot of these instances happening, seemingly not related, but you know, you begin to question what's going on here.
	In the UK, by the way, lawmakers are voting decisively in favor of legislation to ban smoking in Britain completely.
	The t tobacco and vapes bill, now one step closer to becoming law after clearing in the first hurdle in Parliament.
	The bill would make it illegal to sell tobacco to anyone born after January first, two thousand and nine, with the legal age for the purchase of tobacco products increasing by one year every year until it eventually covers the entire population.
	How about freedom?
	But if you decide to make the decision to smoke, then you can't expect the rest of society to pay for the healthcare costs.
	All right, let's get to our phones.
	A lot of you standing by patiently.
	Let's say hi to Athena.
	She's in South Carolina.
	How are you, Athena?
	It was an article today that there are many conservatives that they are racing over to South Carolina and South Carolina's growing by leaps and bounds, and all the uh data that we've seen on it sh confirms that.
	Yes, that's true.
	And good afternoon to you and Linda.
	I love both of you.
	And I Who do you who do you love more?
	Me or Linda.
	Oh, don't put me in that position.
	Well, I'm putting you in that position.
	I love you both the same.
	Athena.
	Good answer.
	That's a good answer.
	You can tell him you love him more.
	Everyone loves Sean Moore, and I am at peace with that.
	You're a peace.
	You're a piece with that because she thinks she's superior, that's why.
	Anyway, what's on your mind?
	I'm gonna be real quick and then I'm gonna hang up and let you give me your answer.
	But you know, tell me what you think.
	But this is the I hear you all the time, and you say, you know, you know, you gotta get people to register, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And we did that.
	And we had millions more votes last time, but it didn't it didn't work.
	I think this is a good idea because you do it and you have the connection, but every conservative, and now that Laura Trump is uh associate associate director or whatever of the GOP, you know, that they should you know, just like they pay for ads, well, they should pay all the conservatives to go to town halls to have town halls and have the local people,
	the local representatives and council and senators that are running for office there, and also talk about Trump's successes when he was in office.
	But get these people in town hall, so the other people that don't because like yesterday I was talking to somebody online and he said that President Trump had 91 sexual assaults and nobody like that should be president.
	They believe the crap that they hear on regular TV.
	So we need town halls and to pay all of y'all because there's there's hundreds of you.
	Stacy on the right, you know, Terrence, everybody to ha hold town halls, but they can't afford to do that.
	But with the GO paying for it.
	Let me let me give you let me give you some good news.
	Laura Trump happened to be on Hannity last night.
	I asked her for an update in their efforts to get people to vote early, vote by mail, uh and and she says they're making a lot of progress.
	I asked her about the progress about legal ballot harvesting.
	She said they're making a lot of progress there, and then she gave out a website, and on the website, you know, they're they're letting people sign up to become trained.
	Uh poll watchers, and and that's I think every single voting precinct in the country needs uh trained poll watchers that get to watch the voting all day and the vote counting all night.
	Now, one thing Democrats won't be able to do is what they were able to pull off in 2020, which is uh many states have laws that say that partisan observers get to watch the vote counting, and because of COVID, there were no accommodations made, and as a result, you know, people that were partisan observers were a thousand, two thousand feet away if they were even allowed in the room.
	That's not gonna happen this time.
	So I think that that hopefully brings more integrity.
	I am just telling all of you, and some of you have been angry at me that I'm saying this.
	You're you're telling people you're giving them bad information.
	No, I'm not giving them bad information.
	You cannot start out election day down hundreds of thousands of votes and and hope that people show up that one day uh in droves and are able to overcome what is the banking of votes by Democrats.
	Republicans have got to embrace early voting, voting by mail, and and on it it's not the system I want.
	I want I want election day to be a national holiday.
	I want one day voting, not 30 days voting.
	I want voter ID.
	I want signature verification.
	I'm on chain of custody controls, uh, where we any any ballots that are mailed in or under camera, under watch the whole time.
	I want updated voter roles and I want partisan observers.
	But we can't change those laws unless we win elections first.
	So the system we're stuck with, we better embrace and we better master, or uh we're not gonna maximize the potential vote of conservatives and republicans.
	That's correct.
	I agree.
	I agree with all that.
	But I I you know he's gotta be our president.
	I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me, and y'all have a blessed day.
	You too.
	You have a you have a blessed day as well.
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	David in Alabama.
	We're in Alabama, are you, David?
	I'm doing all right, sir.
	And where are you in Alabama?
	Uh what do you say?
	Where do you live in Alabama?
	Uh Birmingham.
	I know it well.
	What's on your mind?
	I lived in Huntsville, ninety uh uh what was it, just up sixty-five, about uh an hour, hour and a half away.
	Well, my brother had a had a radio station uh or had a radio political radio show for a long time.
	Uh it was called Radio Underground with Joshua Coy, and he spoke the truth.
	He he didn't sugarcoat things, uh, much like you, and uh he unfortunately he passed away a few years back, but the the length that people are willing to go to make the Republicans fear the Democrat has gotten to bullying.
	If you I mean there's no other way of putting it.
	Uh you can't walk out of your car at a gas station with a Trump shirt on.
	Uh you can't make an innocent comment on um on Facebook about uh it I I posted something the other day about uh please I have some friends in Israel, please pray for them.
	And then before I knew it, I've got people bashing me because I'm not supporting Palestine.
	And I mean let me give you my take on social media, and I I think it does play a useful role.
	I think there's good information that you can glean from it and you can share it, and there's a lot of smart, funny, witty people on there, but there's a lot of it it's pretty toxic.
	It's a toxic environment.
	And I will tell you just for my own mental health purposes, you know, who the who needs to read Hannity, you suck all day.
	I mean, I just unless I'm, you know, unless I want to really feel bad about myself, why would I go and and read posts of people that don't like me and will never like me?
	Um I can tell you, yeah, it's it's a divided country.
	The difference in terms of when I lived in New York versus when I when I live in Florida now as a full-time resident, uh domiciled resident in Florida, I can tell you that it is night and day.
	I am treated so differently here.
	It's it almost has been shocking to a certain level.
	And however, it's what I experience when I go to most states around the country.
	Uh people are extraordinarily nice and kind to me more than I deserve.
	Uh I did not get to have the same treatment in New York, especially in recent years.
	And it's gotten worse and worse and worse.
	And um, you know, it's one of the main one of the big reasons why I said I'm out, I'm done.
	But I've I've wanted to get out for a long time, and there were very specific reasons I couldn't.
	And uh and here I am, and I'm I I think it was the best decision I've made.
	Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend.
	Glad you're out there.
	All right, quick break, right back.
	More of your calls coming up.
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	All right, back to our busy phones.
	Uh Roy also in Alabama next on the Sean Hannity show.
	How are you, Roy?
	Great, you uh good.
	What's on your mind today?
	Um something.
	I'm a I'm a veteran, I'm proud veteran.
	I've done two deployments in Iraq and two deployments in Afghanistan.
	That is just with a very heavy heart.
	Thank you, my friend, for s for for putting your life on the line for us.
	We appreciate it.
	You're a hero.
	Thank you.
	Uh, do you really think that if a terrorist attack happened again, do you think half the country that raised their hands would r uh September 12, 2001, do you think that we'd have the same uh response because this country is so fractured.
	Why would uh we um why would we want to run into the fight when a whole bunch of democrats and uh democrat-controlled country uh city just got uh destroyed?
	I don't know.
	Things have changed dramatically in the last twenty-four years.
	Uh and I was in New York at the time, and the outpouring of love that came into that city and how that city came together, uh I I'll remember for the rest of my life.
	I mean, it was deep, it was profound, it was impactful, and and frankly, I wish we were more united than we are, but I don't know how you reconcile those people that want wide open borders and those people that want legal immigration.
	How do you reconcile those that believe in limited government, lower taxes, less bureaucracy, and and what the Green New Deal socialists want?
	How do you reconcile those that want defund, dismantle, no bail laws, reimagining police departments versus those that believe in simple law and order and safety and security?
	Uh, how do you reconcile those that believe in peace through strength versus those that are outright appeasers uh in on i in some cases even sympathizing with with terrorists?
	I don't know.
	I mean, these are very, very troubling times.
	And I think that there really is only one answer, and that's for the right people to be in power.
	And I that's why this election in two hundred days is so important.
	Anyway, I got I got a roll, but good call.
	You raise a great question.
	You really do.

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