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Hour two, Sean Hannity Show, just two hundred and three days until well, what is an inflection point for the country, probably the most pivotal election we'll ever face in our lifetimes.
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So we have this trial beginning in New York.
There are a lot of things that are going to happen.
We expect that probably about a two-week period of time for jury selection.
We learned today the judge is steadfastly uh refusing to r recuse himself from this case.
Uh the issue is that President Trump's legal team have been making that his adult daughter, political activist running a prominent democratic consulting firm, uh literally fundraising on her dad's case, and clients like Adam Schiff among them, you know, racking up some ninety-three million dollars according to reports and donations by sending out solicitation emails citing the the Trump trial uh over which her father is presiding.
Uh then, of course, the issue of the Access Hollywood tape has been brought up here.
Well, we you can't play it, but you can read the transcript.
What difference does it make?
Uh the judge being very heavy-handed with the former president warning President Trump that he will be jailed if he doesn't show up for court uh every day of this trial.
Uh so we've got we've got a lot of issues now that will be coming fast and furious regarding it.
The mob, the media, they're obsessed with this to the point where it doesn't seem to matter that Israel was attacked by Iran over the weekend, which we have been spending a lot of time on.
Uh, but what we have in this case, it and I thought Jonathan Turley laid it out very well in his column and and when I watched him on air uh earlier this this weekend, and that this is going to show how damaged and politicized and weaponized the justice system is, not only in the country, but especially and specifically in New York.
You know, all of this goes back to what is an alleged crime, a misdemeanor uh under state law that the statute of limitations have already expired, uh, and it's not even clear what exactly that he's been trying to charge President Trump with as we now head into this case.
And then he's arguing that President Trump intentionally lied when his former lawyer listed the payments to Stormy Daniels as retainer costs rather than a payment.
Uh and and Turley rightly points out, you know, m making this more repellent is the fact that that that will be the number one witness for the prosecution, the DA Bragg in this case.
Anyway, here to weigh in on this and so much more.
We have Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, best-selling author, David Schoen, civil rights attorney, previously represented President Trump.
Uh welcome back, both of you.
Glad to have you here.
Uh, but anyway, this spectacle begins.
Greg Jarrett and you know, the the media seems to be salivating as you would expect.
Oh, absolutely.
You know, they long ago convicted Trump in the court of public opinion, and now the judge wants to gag Trump, so he can't respond to some of the accusations against him.
Remember, Bragg held a nationwide news conference condemning Trump as a criminal when he released the indictment.
And you know uh fans, somebody accused of a crime, especially somebody who's the leading candidate for president of the United States, has a constitutional right to speak out to defend himself, and gagging uh a defendant like this is an unconstitutional prior restraint on his free speech rights.
But by the way, it's not the first time we saw this.
We saw this, I believe, with Manafort.
I'm not a hundred percent sure on that case, but we definitely saw it in the case of um uh what's his name that was on trial, Roger Stone, in his case, he was totally gagged.
You know, judges do it all the time because they're uh arrogant and imperious, and they can get away with it because by the time uh an accused has the ability to fully take it up on appeal, the case is over.
Uh, you know, there there's a verdict.
And so, you know, they that's why judges go ahead and do this.
You know, to think that Stormy Daniels and uh Michael Cohn can give endless interviews condemning Trump, but he's not allowed to respond by criticizing those witnesses, that's utterly absurd.
Uh let's get your take, David Schoen on all of this.
There's a lot to get to.
Number one, I guess the issue of recusal in the judge in this case.
Uh number two is the issue that Greg is bringing up, and and that is the gag order.
Uh and we can go from there and whether or not Donald Trump could even get a fair trial in a city that only had twelve percent, uh, which will be the jury pool that voted for him uh in in the last presidential election.
Not exactly favorable conservative Trump or uh Republican territory.
Yeah, Greg's exactly right on the gag order issue.
Uh he said it all.
You said it all correctly in your introduction, the ten or fifteen reasons why this makes a mockery of our justice system.
It's a terrible statement about the justice system.
As you well know, there's a special prosecutor appointed, Mark Pomerance, who presented this case to Alvin to uh Saivan and his team.
They all of the higher up said no, not to prosecute this.
As you said, the feds passed on it.
They had all of the evidence, Federal Election Commission.
What we didn't mention is Alvin Bragg ran on a platform of getting Trump a private citizen, so on.
As to the recusal, the judge absolutely had to recuse himself.
This is not just an appearance of impropriety case or a discretionary recusal.
The statute says the judge shall disqualify himself if he has an a relative to the sixth degree who has an interest that could, not will, could substantially be substantially uh affected by the proceedings.
We already know they've collected 93 million dollars, the judge's daughter for her firm fundraising off of this thing.
We know Schiff has contributed millions of dollars to her company.
They have a vested interest.
The judge and his daughter in ensuring this case isn't dismissed.
One of the two other big issues I'll get to very quickly.
One is you mentioned Sean in the introduction, the grand jury never charged what the target crime is in this case.
The only way this becomes a felony is a misdemeanor of doctoring the business records with the intention to commit another crime.
The grand jury never identified that other crime.
The defense lawyer has moved for a bill of particulars for the prosecutor to identify it.
That wouldn't satisfy it.
You have the fifth and sixth amendment right and the grand jury charge what the crime is in this case so he can defend it.
Um the judge said, well, the government gave you four theories to go on.
You can't defend a case, it's completely different defense if he supposedly doctored the records to cover up for the election, or whether it's for taxes.
Last thing I want to tell you is, and we have to see how this plays out.
Michael Cohen was represented by Bob Costello with the Feds.
Uh Cohen tried to implicate Costello and Giuliani and some things.
The feds weren't buying it.
Cohen waived his attorney client privilege.
They then called Costello in to testify.
Costello told the feds and the grand jury that Michael Cohn told him as his lawyer the exact opposite story.
And he said to Cohen, Cohen, if you ever want to help yourself, now's the time.
Give them Trump if Trump did anything.
And Cohen said, I can't, because Trump didn't do anything wrong here.
They should be calling Bob Costello to testify.
The lawyers have not prepared him.
They need to prepare him to testify.
They've told him, well, the judge isn't going to allow it.
The judge has to allow it.
It's classic prior inconsistent statement, impeachment testimony.
So let's talk about the statute of limitations about a state law which was which is classified as a misdemeanor in the state of New York.
And then the large stretch to to basically try this case as a federal matter.
Um that that defines all logic uh in my mind, but that's where we really find ourselves.
And especially because the statute of limitations had passed, then we have, I don't think it's one or two, but I think aren't there three letters uh that Stormy Daniels had signed saying that denying that she ever had an affair with Donald Trump?
Uh is the judge going to allow that in and that that she did not accept hush money.
Didn't she also say that too?
Because I would assume she's going to be a witness in this case at some point.
First of all, hush money is a pejorative term, an invidious term.
But it's perfectly legal to pay somebody uh money in exchange for their silence.
Corporations do it every day.
The question in in this case becomes did it violate federal election laws?
And the answer is no.
The Federal Election Commission investigated, and they said this is uh not a campaign donation for no violation of the law.
The DOJ also studied it and said there's no crime here.
Well, they had been down that road in the case of John Edwards, or at least a similar case, had they not.
And they lost it.
So Alvin Bragg, as a local prosecutor, is commandeering the authority and jurisdictions of the Fed to bring a case uh in which the underlying crime is breaking federal law.
Well, he doesn't have the authority to do that, but he's doing it anyway.
Now the judge doesn't seem the least bit bothered.
I mean, I think that's one of the if there's a conviction, it's it's one of the many grounds for appeal.
But it's also selective prosecution, Sean, because Hillary Clinton used the same MO.
She employed a lawyer to secretly pay for the phony steel dossier, and they booked it as legal expenses.
Well, she got caught, and the Federal Election Commission fined her and the Democratic National Committee for doing it.
But was Hillary prosecuted?
Of course not.
Her last name is Clinton.
Barack Obama wasn't prosecuted either.
Find a whopping 375,000 for hiding donors and keeping illegal donations.
But his last name is Obama.
But if your last name is Trump, they will contort the law, mangle evidence, and do everything they can to come after you to influence the upcoming election.
All right, quick break.
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All right, we continue now, day one of this ridiculous, you know, trial that's going on in New York with Donald Trump, alleged hush money payments, uh as it relates to to something that was a misdemeanor that everybody passed on, but then of course Alvin Bragg pressure to do it.
It shouldn't even be a felony on top of everything else.
The feds declined to prosecute it, and his predecessor declined to prosecute this.
Anyway, David Schoen and Greg Jarrett continue with us.
David, now again, this is going to go on about two weeks, or at least we anticipate jury selection will be about two weeks.
Uh forty-two questions that every potential juror will have to answer, among which are do you listen to talk radio?
Or where do you get your news from?
Uh questions like that.
I I doubt anybody that said they listened to talk radio or what hosts, oh, Sean Hannity, uh, I would imagine immediate dismissal, wouldn't you?
It's gonna be very difficult to find a jury in this case, I think.
And I think uh they have to figure out who their ideal juror is.
But you know, I want to back up one second.
One thing we didn't discuss is remember on this recusal issue.
This judge Murchan was handpicked for this.
This is the same judge they've put on the Bannon case, the Trump organization case, Weifelberg.
This is not coincidental.
There are dozens of justices on the Supreme Court in New York County.
There's a long history in that county alone of the district attorney's office, hand picking judges.
It was taken up by the New York City Bar, uh the Criminal Defensor Association years ago.
The DA's office promised that they stop the practice.
In this case, the chief administrative judge claims to have picked uh Murchan for this job because of his competence.
One thing I can tell you for sure, because I've been in front of him, Judge Merchano was not picked because of his competence.
Um so I I think the public is entitled to know all of these things.
You know, the American Bar Association came out with a thing a week or two ago saying lawyers have an obligation to defend the integrity of the judges.
I have an obligation.
Every lawyer has an obligation for calling it like they see it.
This is not appropriate.
The default is random selection.
A judge should have been picked in this case by random selection, and the fact that this guy won't recuse himself when the statute tells him he must, uh, is very telling.
What do you think people should be looking for and what should the Trump uh defense team be looking for in a juror, Greg Jarrett?
Well, I'd be looking for a working class person who is fed up with a rampant crime in New York, uh, and sees a progressive district attorney by the name of Alvin Bragg, who doesn't lift a finger,
only protects criminals, and doesn't care about the innocent victims of crime, and yet he is bringing this cockamami case against uh Donald Trump for purely punitive and political reasons.
And I you know, would hope that that juror or jurors would say to themselves, this is fundamentally wrong.
And and I would hope that those jurors would also say, We're gonna follow the law here, and the law here is weak if not non existent.
That that's what I'd be looking for if I were the defense.
Last word, David Schoen.
I think Greg's right, and I think you need somebody particularly strong, because remember, you only need one here.
He ought to be able to find one juror in New York County that's gonna stand up for him.
Remember, the judge, unfortunately, with his rulings, and I'm afraid with the jury instructions.
Well, he'll have the last word in that.
I mean, he's gonna dis he can ultimately for any reason decide, and now that person, he seemed if if in any way the judge senses that that it might be somebody with an open mind, um I'm not confident that uh that person's gonna make it on the jury, but that's just my gut feeling, especially considering the recusal issue.
Yep.
You may well be right, unfortunately.
All right, David uh shown, thank you, and Greg Jarrett, thank you.
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One surprise has been the Senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman.
And you know, I I've been surprised at a number of things that he said.
Uh he seems to be on the mend.
I never wished him ill.
Uh and although I I I kind of find it somewhat miraculous, a lot of people when they have any type of cognitive event, they don't often come back from it, and it looked for a while that he was struggling, but anyway, he said he's astonished that this country is not standing more firmly with Israel, and I think he's right, and he disagrees with Biden on the U.S. response to the Iranian attack, saying I'll never capitulate to the fringe of the Democratic Party.
And he's been doing this with regularity.
I vote he gets to wear his hoodie to to the U.S. Senate.
Listen.
What is your reaction to Iran's attack on Israel and how worried are you that this is the beginning of an open war between the two countries?
Well, i a couple of things actually.
I think it really demonstrates how it's astonishing that we are not uh standing firmly with Israel, and there should never be any kinds of conditions on all that when a nation can launch hundreds of drones uh towards Israel, and I'm not going to be talking about conditions ever.
And second, I I think that also was Iran had to have some fireworks after Israel uh smoked that Iranian uh general, and and I am here for that.
Uh and I think it's just a matter of theater part of it as well, too.
And it finally it demonstrates how unstable things are and why we need to lean in and stand with Israel.
A senior administration official tells CNN that that President Biden told Prime Minister Netanyahu that the U.S. will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran.
Do you think that's the right call?
Uh, or should direct U.S. military action, as some of your colleagues in the Senate are suggesting, uh, should that be on the table.
I I I don't agree with that, you know.
And uh I'm just uh I'm just thinking we should follow and have Israel's back in the situation.
I don't agree with the president.
Uh that doesn't change anything that he's a fantastic uh president.
I'm proud to stand with him and campaign for him and vote for him.
Uh Marco Rubio was just on the show and he said the White House leaking the fact that Biden told Netanyahu not to directly respond, to take the win, uh, quote unquote, uh, was uh offensive to him because it seemed to suggest that he it's Biden trying to appease um the far left in his party.
Uh what's your response?
I I I don't know.
I mean, the president is entitled to his own views and whatever he decides to do.
Uh, but but I I would never capitulate uh capitulate to uh the the fringe.
I'll never pander to that as uh as well.
In fact, that helps uh that empowers from us.
Then you got John Kirby spinning like a top.
We want de-escalation.
We don't want a war with Iran.
Well, if they didn't want a war with Iran, maybe they should have told their friends that they give all this aid and assistance to and waive all these sanctions on.
Maybe they should have been forceful in telling them something other than don't.
You know, Joe Biden's favorite word to an adversary, don't.
Don't.
Okay.
A lot of good that did.
They did.
Listen.
He's also been very clear, Kate, that uh we don't want a war with Iran.
We don't seek to widen and broaden this conflict.
We don't want to see things escalate.
As a matter of fact, what we want to do is see things de-escalate.
And defending Israel, the way we help do on Saturday, uh, should have that effect.
When you talk about de-escalating, so is it the position of the Biden administration that Israel should not retaliate on Iran or Iranian territory now?
Uh again, that's a decision that only Prime Minister Netanyahu in the war cabinet can make.
I mean, uh, again, we respect their sovereign decision making process.
Uh, what we want to see is de-escalation of the tensions.
We don't want to see a wider war.
One interesting thing, and we've been watching these protests now, anti-Israeli uh protests blocking traffic, you know, everywhere from San Francisco to New York City and and places in between.
Uh and you've got this whole issue about how Joe Biden and the radicals that really are the democratic party today.
There are no moderates, lot Fetterman might might fit into a category of his own here, because no other democratic senator has had the courage to speak out in Israel's defense against terrorism.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's what I've been saying is that Joe Biden is unwilling to take on his radical base and take a clear moral stand that radical terrorists have got to be stopped.
And if you think they if that if they defeat Israel that they're done, you're you're living in a fantasy world.
This whole ideology, convert or die is real.
Now, if Iran ever gets nuclear weapons, well, I happen to be of the belief they will use them based on that twisted sick ideology that they adhere to.
But don't take my word for it.
Listen to Michael Moore.
This is how radical the left has become in the country.
This is why Joe Biden is telling Israel that he won't support any offensive reaction.
There's got to be a price to be paid for what Iran did this weekend.
There's got to be a price.
And to tell Israel, oh, just like on October 7th, sorry you lost all these Israelis.
Sorry, sorry, so many Israelis are still hostages.
Sorry, Americans are among them.
Uh but we need a de escalation and we need a ceasefire, and you need to stop uh short of winning your war against terrorism.
You know, the answer needs to be no, we support Israel's right to defeat radical Islamic terrorists that that caused the worst terror attack in their history, but we're not there.
And one of the reasons Joe isn't doing it is for pure political ambition and expediency.
And this is Michael Moore warning Biden about his Israeli policy.
Listen.
It's um the madness of all of this has gone on for way too long.
And um, um President Biden, please, please, you hold the power to turn this thing around.
There are millions of good Israelis, good people in Israel who don't want this either and want the hostages back.
Palestinian families want their prisoners that are in Israeli jails back.
And nobody wants this to continue.
Only the few crazies in the Netanyahu war cabinet.
We have the power to stop it.
We know the right thing that we have to do.
And President Biden, you have to do your part.
Why are you risking having even 10,000 people not show up who are just deciding they've already decided they're not going to vote because of this?
Hillary lost Michigan by 10,000 votes.
Don't make the same mistake.
Please.
Hillary 2.0.
Well, I don't think it's wrong either.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back and get to more of your calls toll-free on numbers 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, we're going to get an update from Washington in terms of what will the congressional reaction be to what was unfolding over the weekend.
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Now the nation of Iran, I don't think this is going to end here.
A full attack from Iran.
They made they gave it their best shot over the weekend.
And Israel, if they don't re-respond, I'd be shocked.
I think a response is more than warranted.
And Iran has been attacking Israel through their proxies for decades.
And now this entire war against of terror against Israel has now come to a head.
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Sam is in Louisiana.
Sam, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
Been listening for a long, long time.
I appreciate it.
Glad you're out there.
What's on your mind today?
Israel's not looking to hurt the Palestinian people.
But the Palestinian people should have stood up and said, listen, we have embedded within our society.
Radical Muslims, and we need to get rid of them.
That should be if you don't have the moral clarity to understand that radical Islamists that commit acts of terror against so many people like they did against our country on 91101.
If you don't see the moral the necessity to stand with against those radical terrorists, then frankly, and you put your own political expediency and ambition above that, then you you stand for nothing.
And that's why President Joe Neville Chamberlain Biden is who he is.
And this is why all the pressure is being brought to bear on Israel.
No pressure is being brought to bear on Iran.
Why not?
Well, you know, why why I I went through in chapter and verse Biden's brutal record of appeasement with Iran.
And he continues that to this day, including America importing Iranian oil.
Why would we do that?
That should be stopped immediately.
It should have never happened.
Just like the Iranian deal should have never happened.
Just like waving sanctions and allowing ten billion to go in their coffers from Iraq, just like they make a deal they wanted to give six billion dollars for as a hostage payment.
Just like, you know, turning a blind eye to the sale of Iranian oil in spite of sanctions on the world stage.
It has enabled the number one state sponsor of terror to get richer and richer and richer.
And then they can fight all their proxy wars and fund Hamas and Hezbollah and the Hoody rebels out of Yemen, and they can do it with impunity, as they have been doing.
Well, can I say one other thing?
What I'm really afraid of.
And then deep down in my heart, something nasty is going to happen in our country.
America will be attacked some type of way, bridges or harbors or ports or theaters or something.
And Director Ray needs to step up.
Their motto is fidelity, bravery, and integrity.
Director Ray, your fidelity is waning.
Your integrity is waning.
Your bravery's there.
Step up and speak to your president.
You know what?
No.
He should be enforcing the law.
He's supposed to be in charge of our top law enforcement agency.
He has sat back and allowed this institutionalized law breaking at our southern border, allowing in tens and tens of thousands of people from China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Afghanistan.
And then he just comes out and says, oh, the threat level's never been this loud or severe.
And yeah, no kidding.
I've been saying it over and over again.
It's not if we're going to get hit.
Joe has allowed terror cells into this country.
And I will be proven right, although I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.
Trust me.
I remember 9 11.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Gina, next Connecticut, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Well, thank you for taking my call.
Um, I wanted to kind of touch a little bit on the dual justice system.
You know, Trump seems like anything and everything that they can go after him for, they do, and they always come up empty.
Um, the classified documents, they want to arrest him and put him in jail.
Fighting they want to give him a pass.
He's too old, he's too senior, so they they just shove it under the carpet.
And I I guess my biggest point is what's going on at the border right now.
We've got murder, rape, violence, everything going on there.
Why isn't the Biden administration in contempt for that?
If that was Trump at the border right now, dealing with this, he would have been removed from office.
Why do we allow this to happen?
Why do we allow criminals in New York to you already know the answer, Gina?
We have talked at length about it.
Joe Biden's Department of Justice has been weaponized.
We know the answer.
It's been politicized.
And he is with impunity been aiding and abetting in the law breaking.
And and why uh only I guess Joe Biden will know if he even knows that today's Monday.
Probably the only thing that he has in his mind today is Donald Trump's on trial.
Yeah, thanks to uh a system of justice that is probably the most tainted it's ever been in our lifetime.
I'll give you the last word.
Go ahead.
How uh you know, Sean, how do we stop this?
Our Republican Party needs to unite together, and if they keep going on as individuals and don't look at the American people to help our country, we are gonna be in trouble again.
We are in trouble again.
It's happening right before our eyes.
You're watching the next terror attack.
Uh likely is already the test the cells have been set up.
No one will ever convince me that all these people from China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Afghanistan are coming to our southern border because they want a better life for themselves and their families.
Never.
And I wish, I pray to God that Sean Hannity one day has to say I was wrong.
I'm not gonna be wrong.
I wish I was.
I wish I was.
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Average family saving close to a thousand dollars a year, the same cell towers, same 5G network, no contracts, no activation fees.
Now you can bring your phone or get great deals on the latest iPhones and Androids, but make the switch today, and you'll save an additional 50% off your first month.
Now choose a wireless company that shares your values that supports our military, our vets, and who creates American jobs, and they refuse to advertise on fake news network.
Just dial pound two fifty, say the keyword, save now, make the switch today so you can actually afford a burger and fries.
Pound two fifty key words, save now from Pure Talk.
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