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April 3, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Meet Alina Habba - April 2nd, Hour 2
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Um we we now have added words to our lexicon that really were never associated with presidential elections before, like for example, law fair.
Uh I never thought I'd I'd have to talk as much about uh equal justice under the law, equal application of our our laws or weaponized justice system or politicized justice system or weaponized FBI or a politicized FBI, but that's really where we are.
And you know, taking this all the way back to Hillary Clinton, and no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute top secret classified information all over her private servers, and then of course, 33,000 subpoenaed emails deleted.
We had not heard of I never heard of Bleach Pit before that case and devices destroyed with hammers and SIM cards removed, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Joe Biden has has top secret classified information, eight separate locations across, you know, new numerous colleges, UPenn, University of Delaware, two homes that he has in different locations within the homes.
Uh, but in the case, uh not not a big deal.
Even though he tells a ghostwriter, Oh, I found new uh classified documents.
Let me read them to you.
But that is that is now the world we're living in.
We live in a world where attorneys generals can run to destroy one organization, one man, and one family.
Let me remind you of Letitia James, the A.G. of New York.
Listen.
I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.
I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses.
Oh, we're gonna do we're gonna be a real pay.
man in the White House who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights.
Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses.
We need to follow his money.
We need to find out where he's laundered money.
We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy.
Now the entire case was about the issue of valuations and uh meaning as Donald Trump would apply for loans and the Trump organization applied for loans, they offered uh to banks and then would get properties insured and insurance companies valuations.
In other words, what they believe a property is worth, which even a Deutsche Bank executive during the well, it was a summary judgment, but during the penalty phase arguments in this case argued that, yeah, those things are subjective.
Then of course you have in in every Trump organization contract a disclaimer saying don't use our valuations, nor would any company ever use the valuation of a borrower or the insured.
They have a fiduciary responsibility to assess that themselves, and before you lend hundreds of millions of dollars or insure hundreds of millions of dollars.
Uh and that there was nobody that was harmed, nobody that complained about being harmed.
Everybody was paid back with interest and was happy uh at the end of the day, then the biggest valuation error was made by the judge in this case, and Goron.
He's the guy that throughout the entire trial, uh, you know, maintained that Mar-a-Lago is worth 18 million dollars.
Well, we showed you property of two acres now of of wide open land in Palm Beach on the ocean, it's being sold for 200 million dollars, another crappy lot to be honest, on a corner for a hundred and fifty million dollars, and it's got a street between the ocean and and the property where they would ultimately build on.
And yet the the judge maintained that.
Mar-a-Lago's over twenty acres, pristine condition, historic property, two clubs associated with it.
You know, more more bathroom bedrooms and bathrooms, over fifty plus that I can count with all the amenities you'd want.
And it's uh it's pretty unbelievable.
Anyway, joining us now, Alina Hobbes back with us.
She is the president's legal spokesperson and general counsel for the Save America pack.
Uh do you ever see a case where the judge was more guilty of of that which which the person involved in the case was even accused of?
Because I can't think of a worse appraisal than eighteen million dollars for Mar-a-Lago.
I'd I'd love to buy the property if the pres I'll so I'll pay double that amount.
Yeah, and we'll still make a killing on that one, Sean, if we pay double.
Um, I've never seen anything like it.
So of course, if you're using numbers like 18 million for Mar a Lago, then you would look and say, oh wow, he really overvalued his statements of financial condition.
Uh, you know, sure, use a ridiculous number.
You could say that about anybody, frankly, and and we've seen what happened with John Stewart.
I want to see the equal justice of law.
I want to see them apply it to them when it's on their side of the coin.
But what you played in in the monologue, Pisha James screaming that she's gonna get Trump before she was even in office before she had any information on Trump, that is the core of our problem.
The judge is just a vehicle to help Miss James.
And um, look, we've seen the appellate division reverse that judge five times now, and and we hope to see it continue.
I think once the they look at the transcript, once they see the gag orders, once they see the nonsense that I sat through for four months, uh, you know, there weren't cameras in that room, Sean, and thankfully, because of people like you, people were hearing what was happening.
But once the appellate division sees the transcript, sees the misguided injustice, I think we're gonna have a really fair shot and and get get this uh case reversed.
Well, I've got to imagine that on the appeal level, now they again they wanted over what, a half a billion dollars uh just as a bond so the president could appeal a case which is unprecedented in and of itself, uh the the appeals court stepped in and said, No, they're gonna reduce it to still a very high number of 175 million.
The president posted a bond yesterday regarding this.
Uh so now his appeal will move forward.
I I've got to imagine front and center in that case is whether the judge valu uh judges valuation of Mar-a-Lago is is gonna be allowed to stand because that was a big part of this case.
Massive part of it.
I mean, there was a lot of it.
We had Deutsche Bank even saying that they were happy.
So who's she fighting for?
Where's the victim?
There was no victim.
They brought it under a consumer fraud statute, intentionally, because under consumer fraud, the AG can step in to protect the people of the state of New York.
She had no one to protect here.
So she used a statute that has never been used in this way against a private individual in a private company, not a publicly traded company, to protect who?
I have no idea.
Deutsche Bank, Zurich, Zirkstor Insurance, Deutsche Bank said we were the whale of science.
But somehow Miss James would not stop because that's what she ran her campaign on.
So in some, this is selective prosecution and persecution.
We know that.
Like you said, we have new words now.
We're using lawfare, legal legal lawfare, election interference at its finest.
It's a real demise of the country.
The judge's miscalculation says it all because he really wasn't there to apply law to fact.
He was there to help as a vehicle for Miss James, and now, you know, the real judges will step in and take a look at it.
Let me ask, uh, it seems, and correct me if I'm wrong that of the number of cases the president is facing, the Alvin Bragg case in New York, the DC case, the Fulton County case, and the and the case down in Florida with documents, it seems like maybe only one is gonna go to trial before the election, and that would be the Bragg case scheduled to I guess start April 15th and in about two weeks.
Uh, do you believe that's the case?
And number that's number one, and number two, uh, as I analyze it, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Alvin Bragg wants to charge based on a federal statute, not a state statute.
How is he gonna pull that off?
Well, I don't know, you maybe you should ask the administration where they all go visit before they file complaints against Donald Trump opened Washington, DC.
You know, this case that's coming up, yes, I do to answer your question, Sean.
Think it's gonna we're gonna go to trial.
I don't think we should be going to trial.
I think there's numerous reasons we shouldn't, and I'll leave that for the the lawyers to articulate through papers and and keep that confidential.
But let me let me just say this.
If anybody wants to know what kind of hack is happening here, that case has been investigated for years and years and years.
It was stems from Michael Cohen.
That case was investigated.
The DA decided not to bring the case, not to indict after all of the investigation.
Mark Pomerance left furious, wrote a book, furious that the DA wouldn't do selective prosecution and persecution.
But then he says, President Trump decides he's going to run for office, announces, and what happens, Sean?
The indictment comes, and here we are in an election year.
He's clearly the nominee, and we're going to trial on a criminal case for him for for his for something he did frank.
He didn't even do.
He was in in the White House.
I mean, realize the facts of this.
He was in the White House.
So it's crazy.
You know, we talk about immunity.
We talk about the critical by the way.
This is a st this is a case that goes back to prior to the 2016 election.
Yeah.
I mean, uh I mean this is how absurd this is.
How many years later and and why just before an election would they would they bring that case forward?
And then that raises a lot of questions about you know, at what point does the Justice Department policy, there's not a specific policy, but it's kind of unwritten policy is they don't they don't d run with prosecutions before elections.
When does that that I guess tradition kick in here?
What what dire uh is are they gonna have a trial in DC during the Republican National Convention?
If they can if they can do it, I think they would.
You know, don't forget we had uh Comey saying, you know, we saw Hillary Clinton, she did things that were wrong, but we're not gonna, you know, we're not gonna pressure, we just don't do that.
Well, sure, it works for them, but not for us, right?
No, he he laid out specific crimes that she committed for for twelve and a half, fourteen minutes, and then said, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Well, not the case, because we know what happened in Mar-a-Lago in the raid that took place there.
Yeah.
It's it's an unbelievable demise of our judicial system.
I I really have to say, and I think that people, you know, they hear about it on the news, but I'm in there and I'm telling you and you and your listeners, um, you're not you're only getting two percent of what I see.
I mean, the the gag orders, the things you hear on the outside, that's one thing, but it's every day the decisions.
You can't bring this evidence in, you can't bring that.
It's it doesn't matter if you have a jury, because the judges will direct evidence in and out a certain way so that the jury doesn't get to see everything.
You know, it's not the way our constitution and our American judicial system was supposed to operate.
And we really are becoming a banana republic.
We don't have change soon, Sean.
I mean, it's not about Trump.
It's about America, it's about us, it's about Americans, my kids, you know, your grandkids, whatever.
It it's it's not right.
Uh easy, Alina.
I don't have grandkids yet.
Okay, I have two kids.
Thank you very much.
One day you will, and it's for them.
You know, that's the No, I I I I completely agree.
And we're setting very dangerous precedents here that I I think over time people on the left better pay attention to because it'll be applied, it will all be applied to them as well.
Um I mean, that's just the way it works.
Uh why do you think this will be the only case that gets tried prior to November?
Well, I think that the Jack Smith cases um have fallen a bit on their face.
He had uh, you know, years and years.
Well, we have we have the Supreme Court taking up the issue of immunity.
Um the only maybe disagreement I might have with legal strategy is is the argument over absolute immunity versus limited immunity.
Um because I've I felt that the hypothetical brought up in court about a SEAL team six member ordered by a a president to assassinate the their chief political rival was just too obscene to even you know to even bring up, but it was brought up.
But would limited immunity also not have protected the president?
I believe it would.
So I think the difference is that actually presidential immunity, which is the equivalent of absolute immunity, i it's the same thing.
It's an immunity that's afforded, but it's different because it's called that because it's the executive branch.
So the immunity is a governmental immunity, but the executive branch has presidential immunity, it's called.
People think of it like you're bulletproof.
That's not it.
It's it's so that you know, officers of the of the executive branch, presidents, all presidents, not just Republican presidents, all presidents can do their job without fear of getting sued for something ridiculous when they leave the White House.
That does not mean there isn't not an impeachment process.
That does not mean that there is not a checks and balances system for executive branch members.
That means that we need to allow judges, uh uh excuse me, president to not be persecuted by judges and AGs and DAs for a political campaign.
And and that's a very important thing.
Um I personally agree with you.
I think the Field Team Six question was actually absurd.
The fact that that was even tried to become a parallel to the situation is absurd.
The president uh President Trump said to peacefully and patriotically protest.
There was absolutely no insurrection, but those are trigger words.
You know it, and I know it.
That's what they do in a campaign.
We also we also learned that the January 6th committee uh put in a hearsay witness, but when they actually got testimony from the driver of the president that day who stated under oath that no, he never tried to commandeer the vehicle.
Uh that was misleading.
Uh the fact that so many documents seem to have disappeared is beyond troubling to me.
Uh the fact that five people were in the Oval Office days before January sixth.
I have four of the five on tape saying that the president wanted to order ten thousand National Guard troops, and in writing the mayor of DC said no.
Right.
That's things we've been saying.
And until the, you know, look at what happened with the shaman, right?
We got the video footage came out, all of a sudden he was released.
These people, there are still people sitting in jail.
I mean, you can't forget that that haven't had trial yet.
That's just a failure on the justices.
That doesn't mean that they face trial, but they need to have process.
Everyone needs to process and the presumption of innocence.
Alina Hobbet, thank you.
Appreciate you being with us.
Quick break, right back.
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Um there's a lot of talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And uh the fact that he actually said that Joe Biden is a worse threat to democracy than Donald Trump because he's weaponizing federal agencies.
Now, do I am I suspicious?
Yes.
I I'll tell you what I'm suspicious about.
Uh I think that you and you're gonna see this on both sides.
I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to adopt a strategy to try and strip away voters from Donald Trump and voters from Joe Biden.
And he's gonna try and thread that needle by saying specific things that would appeal to the base of both Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Now, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe my observations are wrong, but that that was my take when I heard that comment.
His family is livid with him.
His own sister and and other family members are just slamming his campaign.
Uh listen to his sister, for example.
I feel strongly that this is the most important election of our lifetime.
And I do worry that Bobby just taking some percentage of votes from Biden could shift the election and lead to Trump's election.
All right, then he has to respond to watching clips of family members calling him an embarrassment.
Yikes, listen to this.
Well, I have a big family.
I don't know anybody in America who's got a family who agrees with them on everything.
I don't know if that's your situation, Aaron.
If you just have a family who believes everything you do is, you know, like unicorns and rainbows.
But uh, you know, I would I come from a family from a milieu where we came home at night and ate dinner with my father, and he would uh orchestrate debates between us, and we were in the same way that his father did with him.
And we could disagree on issues and and we could disagree with passion and information, but we still love each other.
And I love Rory.
I love my family, I feel loved by them.
Listen, I understand why they don't like me running.
I understand President Biden has been a 40-year friend to me and my family.
He has a bust of my father behind him on the Oval Office.
He talks about how my father inspired him to enter politics.
There's five members of my family who work for the Biden administration.
So, you know, I understand why they're dismayed that I'm running against them.
They're also worried that, you know, what my sister said that you know my candidacy may get Trump elected.
What happened?
Anyway, so just watch this this all unfold.
I I watched him on Fox and Friends today trying and protect his vice presidential choice.
Uh seems like a nice woman.
Great life story.
However, comments about in vitro fertilization uh were not ambiguous.
They were actually very, very clear, and I think that then becomes a big issue uh for his his campaign for sure.
Uh and you know, I I can give you one example, for example, you know, what what would qualify Nicole Shanahan to be vice president?
I don't see anything in her background that qualifies her.
The fact that she said it's one of the biggest lies that's being told about women's health today, and his answer today was well, she had a bad experience with it.
That's why.
Well, wait a minute.
That's not what she said in February.
And you know, I wonder how the left will re react to all of that.
Um and maybe some conservatives like RFK Jr.'s position on vaccinations or women playing, uh men playing in women's sports, or or he's actually said some things about immigration that make him a little more moderate than than your average left-wing hardcore leftist Democrat.
But however, he's voted, he has a history of voting for every Democrat in the modern era and praising all of them.
So I'm not so sure who is the real Bobby Kennedy Jr.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Our friend Don from Lake Ron Concuma is with us.
Don, hi, how are you?
Welcome aboard, sir.
Always great to hear from you.
And I'm just waiting.
There's a beautiful, there's a beautiful place down here for you somewhere in the free state of Florida, just waiting for you to come on down.
Um I'll have you look for me.
Sounds great, Sean.
Uh listen, that the border crisis crime statistics you uh outlined last night on Hannity.
Are indeed frightening.
The rise of the ISIS threats to our country uh has never been higher, according to that general.
And the number of crimes that ICE reported committed by illegals, close to nearly 50,000 crimes in in a in just a year.
And they if they were covering uh murder, uh kidnapping, uh, sexual assault, robbery, rape, and none of these enemy threats or the number of crimes, and not to mention the strain on our schools with these uh illegals pouring over the the border.
And a strain on our hospitals and the taxpayers' wallets, it matters to the Democrats in office at all.
What matters is chaos.
It's acceptable as long as they have future voters.
It's just so maddening those numbers you showed us last night.
Well, uh, you know, we're trying to do our job and get the truth out and news that you're never gonna get from the media mob.
That's our job.
And so far, you know, we're we're doing the job they should do every day.
It is amazing to me, Don.
We live in a time where it is twenty-four-seven, nonstop rage and hate, conspiracy theories, and and it's now by any means necessary to stop Trump.
There's nothing there's every everything's on the table.
They're so triggered by it all.
Anyway, my friend, great to hear your voice.
Glad you're holding down the ship.
Uh our prayers again go out to the the family of the slain officer of Massapequa out in Long Island.
Um how heartbreaking.
Uh Norma is in North Carolina next on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you, Norma?
What's going on?
Hey, I'm doing great.
Um, I heard a rant from Joe Scarborough last week that he said all crime is down.
All crime is down.
He started listing all the crimes, and he said in the Trump era uh the crime was higher than any other time.
And uh he's li he's li flat out lying, and I I put those numbers on the screen last night.
Joe is uh poor liberal Joe.
I don't know what happened to him.
But he's become unhinged.
And he's very triggered by all things Trump.
I mean, if you've ever been up at six o'clock in the morning, it's like forget it.
Who needs espresso and coffee when you got him screaming at you every day and screeching away.
I can't I don't know how anybody could watch that garbage.
Well, he was actually uh comparing that to the UNC and Alabama game, and he said, just look at the facts, look at the facts.
That's what we're looking at, all the facts.
He said, I know for a fact that Alabama beat UNC.
And then he again, you know, he just continued to go on with his rant.
But the irony is there was a lot of high crime during Trump, but it was riot crime.
It was crime from the uh Black Lives Matter and uh George Floyd, and so we just need to make sure that that gets corrected um every time he says it or anybody else.
The Democrats say it.
We've got to correct it.
We've got to get it out there.
Well, I uh I agree with all of that, and the the fascinating things is you know, you hear the left constantly talk about insurrection.
Amazing how it was perfectly okay for the vice president to support a bail fund after they burned down the Minnesota police precinct.
Uh it was perfectly acceptable for her to say they're not gonna stop rioting.
There were five hundred and seventy-four riots.
We had dozens of dead Americans, we had thousands of injured cops, we had billions in property damage.
There was no hearing in Congress over over those riots.
There was no chastising as an insurrectionist, the vice president for encouraging all of this or the lying media.
You know, some of my favorite videos are MSTNC or fake news CNN reporters literally saying tonight's uh it's mostly peaceful, and right behind them the entire city's like on fire.
I mean, it's it's laughable if it wasn't so bad.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
Thank you, Norma.
Great observation.
I think the best to antidote to uh waking up uh maybe you put on Fox and Friends.
I think it's gonna be a little little more friendly for you.
A little a little more a little more palpable in the morning, especially.
All right, quick break, we'll come back more.
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Uh let's say hello to Rose out in Long Island, New York.
How are you, Rose?
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for calling taking my call.
I'm a first-time caller.
And uh I've been a fan for a long time.
My comment is about how devastating uh the loss and the continued slaughter of our police officer.
It was gut gut wrenching, listen to his wife uh eulogize him at at the funeral mass.
I I give her a lot of kudos because I don't know if I'd be able to do that, but my point is we have to do something.
She called for it, the widows try it to her, called for it.
And I just think maybe it's time for a recall of of uh Governor Hokel.
You know, people are frustrated.
The law abiding citizens are just tired.
And what can we do?
We have no recourse except uh uh uh a uh a recall and a special election.
And I think there's a guy, uh he works for another uh radio station.
He wears a red hat and tatteen jacket.
You put him and his band of merry men and women out in Massafle, he'll get two hundred thousand votes in a in a day.
You put him in Harlem with or the Bronx, he'll get more votes and more signatures.
So that's I would tell you that I mean I I uh you're talking about my friend, you can say his name.
He's a friend, it's Curtis Lewa.
And uh I I wonder if the election in New York City for mayor were held today, if there'd be a different result considering how poorly Eric Adams has run New York City.
He's run it right into the ground.
Um the issue, by the way, the Times Union, I remember at the time when Andrew Cuomo uh during his resignation and etc, etc.
But it there are, for example, in a in a parliamentary system, there's a vote of no confidence from fellow office holders that are used to remove prime ministers.
It's it's not so in the separation of power system like they would have in New York, where the executive's term is fixed.
Now, the two constitutionally defined option for removing a governor, which is what I think where you're where you're headed with this and what you're asking me before his years are up are both would involve conviction either after impeachment or following the commission of a felony crime by it both require action then by the politicians, the legislature, the legislative branch, and elected judges, neither allows for action by those who actually hired him, the people.
So by the way, in 19 other states, the governor may be fired by the people, or we use the term recalled, and that for example is what happened with Gavin Newsom.
They tried to do it out in California.
Does that make sense?
Is that a good answer?
Yes, it does, but at least they tried something.
You know, at least uh it wasn't just rhetoric.
You know, you're off the snake.
You know, they speak parcel tongue.
You know what parcel tongue is?
Yeah.
No.
Well, I I I w let me tell you, I m I actually recently met the I think it was the grandson, God forbid, I I think it was the grandson of Hugh Carey.
I don't know if you remember Hugh Carey, used to be the governor of New York.
And I said, why don't you run?
Now, I would tell you that I think if if Lee Zeldon ran the good campaign that he ran, and he did run a good campaign, and it was ten years earlier, I think he might have been able to win.
I don't think all the people that I know that have been leaving New York and have left New York are the people that would have been able to put him over the top.
I'm not sure the population base is there now to elect a Republican.
I still think it is in New Jersey.
We saw that in the recent gubernatorial race there.
Had we paid more attention, I think like Glenn Young and won Virginia in that cycle, I think that Murphy could have been thrown out on his ass in New Jersey.
And I think if I was I was Donald Trump's campaign, I'd pay very close attention to New Jersey and maybe try to put that state in play.
But um New York is a tough case.
It really is.
I mean it's it has gone so far radical left.
You know, I have all these stories today about New York and and what's happening there and and you know, crime.
I I'll just give you a couple of quick examples.
I mean, you know, we the squatter issue, which we're gonna talk about at the top of the next hours a big big deal.
Um, but it it's just bigger than that.
Um you just have so much in terms of quality of life, taxes, violence, everything has gotten worse under Democratic Party rule.
I mean, the these people are out of their minds.
They don't know what they're doing.
And it is now leading to, in many cases, unnecessary death and and destruction.
It's unbelievable to me, but you know, that's why the the mass exodus is not gonna end.
It's going to continue.
And I don't know what these states do down the line because they spend so much money that you know, look at California.
They're gonna be seventy, eighty billion dollars in the hole This year alone.
It's unreal.
I gotta run.
I do appreciate your call, though.
800 941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part of the program.
We'll talk to uh the guy, Flash Shelton is his name of the squatter hunters.
How do you how do you deal with squatters if they try to take over your home?
It's happening to tens of thousands of Americans.
I know it's insane.
Can't believe I'm talking about it, but there's a lot of topics I can't believe what we end up talking about.
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It's one word, support IFCJ.org.
That's support if org, and whatever you can donate, thank you for that.
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