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Bill O'Reilly - March 13th, Hour 2
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Hi, Leonard Skinner's Simple Man.
All things simple man can only mean one thing on this radio program, and that is all things self-proclaimed, simple man, meaning all things O'Reilly, and that's Bill O'Reilly, all things of Bill O'Reilly at Bill O'Reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, uh great to have you back on the program.
I had an opportunity to see Bill recently.
You know, for an old guy, you look pretty good.
Yeah, it's all like Botox, you know.
By the way, you've you're like me.
I mean, there are people in our business, men and women that do that stuff.
You know, fillers and Botox and surgery, and you know, I uh that's never happening with me.
I don't know about you.
I I don't think you're gonna do it either.
No, I'm going out the way I came in.
Um, no, no, no, you're a lot cuter when you came in, Bill.
Yeah, that's for sure.
I mean, it went downhill after the uh day three of O'Reilly on the planet.
Uh quick story.
I was uh caddying for Peter Jennings years ago on ABC.
Uh I did the afternoon news briefs before General Hospital.
And Jennings is out for a few days.
Um and I had to up my uh news brief thing.
He usually did it, but he didn't like to do it.
So when he was in a snit, I would get the call and run down and do it.
Um so he comes back from his brief uh vacation wherever he was, and he had his eyes done.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
And um he walks in, and I I used his makeup person because that's where the news brief studio was, and I look at him, he looks at me, and I went, by the way, that was before it was as common as it is.
Uh all right, let me start with topic number one, and it's a topic that I'm passionate about, and I'm very angry about it.
And this is the topic of we don't have equal justice or equal application of our laws anymore, Bill.
Now, I'm gonna give they give a long setup and then I'm gonna hand you the ball.
Hillary Clinton, we know had top secret classified information on her servers.
Uh we know she deleted 33,000 emails.
We never got to see those.
We don't know what was on it.
Uh she introduced a new word to the lexicon.
I'd never heard of Bleachbit before.
I'm I'm pretty sure you probably had not either.
Um then we know about devices, BlackBerry's iPhones destroyed with hammers.
And then, of course, all of this in July of 2016, James James Comey lays out top secret, classified information, chains, destroyed uh materials, etc., etc.
But no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Now we have Robert Herr and Robert Herr investigates Joe Biden, and he's got he's got top secret classified documents in in seven separate locations, if you include different locations within one's house.
Actually, it's eight.
And the Penn Biden Center, the University of Delaware, his one home with the with the Corvette, the other beach home.
And what did we learn?
We learned that it's very likely he took out top secret information out of a skiff.
And for those people that don't know what a skiff is, i if you have the right clearance, you get to see classified material, but you have to leave it there.
And he left it there, and he didn't leave it there, he took it with him.
Uh we learned that in fact Joe Biden had all of this information, actually bragged to a ghostwriter of his.
Oh, I found more top secret, I have more classified information in my basement.
Let me go get it.
He not only went to get it, but he read it to the guy uh who didn't have a security clearance, and and what did we hear that he willfully retained these documents, and he didn't get rated and he didn't get charged.
Then without going into all the details, because this audience knows it, uh Mar-a-Lago, the treatment of Donald Trump.
Donald Trump had already allowed the FBI free access to Mar-a-Lago.
They found the documents in a particular room.
They didn't take them with them that day, which is odd, and they only called back a couple of days later and said, Would you mind putting an extra lock on that door, a padlock on that door?
And they complied with that.
It was nothing that would have prevented them from coming back and and taking what they thought was necessary to hand over.
And I look at this system.
I think America cannot survive as a republic, a constitutional republic if we don't have equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws.
What say Mr. O'Reilly?
Well, number one, um, the cases uh demonstrate uh it's all about will.
So prosecutors have discretion about bringing cases that they'll prosecute or not.
Everybody knows that it's under the law.
In Biden's case, there was a motive.
He got an eight million dollar advance for the book that you just mentioned, eight million dollars.
That's how he bought his beach house.
So in order to bolster the book, he took the documents, which he was not entitled to because he was vice president.
It's even worse because Trump was president, Biden was vice president.
No vice president can take any classified information out of uh Washington.
He did.
So he would have been convicted, Biden, I believe.
I don't believe her when her says, uh, oh, I I don't think I would have got a conviction.
I don't believe that.
I think her did what he was told to do, maybe not directly told, but kind of, yeah, make Biden look bad, we have to do that, just like Comey made Hillary Clinton look bad, and remember Hillary Clinton blames Comey for her loss.
Make Biden look bad, but we don't really want to do this, it's gonna hurt the country, and that's what her did.
So, but they didn't do the same.
You actually said the key word, the first word you said, and I pay very close attention when you speak.
You said will.
Well, her found that that Joe Biden willfully retain these documents.
And then his argument was well, I had to factor in uh presenting this this evidence to a jury, and they would likely find him as a kind very forgetful uh old man incapable of of really understanding the magnitude of what he was doing, even though it happened in many cases years prior.
And and to me that's not his decision to make.
That's a jury's decision to make.
But this is the reality, Bill.
We now we don't have equal justice or equal application of our laws.
This is now a lawless society with a weaponized department of justice, a politicized department of justice, and if that's the case, our republic is crumbling before our eyes.
It's worse than you portray it, Hannity.
I'm being nice to you.
It's worse.
Because her, that's not his job.
It's not his job to handicap a prosecution.
It's his job to compile the evidence and present the evidence to a grand jury.
Correct.
That's his job.
Not the handicap.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know if it's that's not your job.
Well, what he's really said, but think how think through this a little more deeply.
What he's saying is that Joe Biden is not competent enough to stand trial.
But that's not what he's saying.
But you can he kinda is.
He's saying yeah, he's a daughtering old fool that can't stand trial.
He's only doing that to cover his butt.
Agreed.
You've got to make them look bad so that it doesn't come back on uh Merrick Arlen, the attorney general.
I got a guy on the No Spin News, my TV broadcaster named William Trackman.
He's a general counsel for the Mountain States Legal Foundation.
And I notice you never invite me on your show.
What's up with that?
You know what?
I'm gonna now hold you to that.
I'm gonna regret that.
Go ahead.
The show.
Anyway, I'm gonna ask him exactly what you're saying.
That's gonna be my first question at Trackman.
Look, most Americans don't believe that the Justice Department is interested in justice.
It's politics.
And there's a lot of stuff to back that up.
So when you indict a guy, when you arrest and charge a guy for falsely telling the FBI that he gave five million a hunter and Joe, and then you don't enrest all the guys who led who lied to the FBI about Russian collusion.
What is that?
Can any constitutional republic survive this system?
Well, I don't know about that.
I don't like to deal in hypotheticals, but I can say with certainty.
Bill, it's not it's not a hypothetical.
This really happened.
Yeah, but I can say with certainty that this Justice Department presently is corrupt.
Now whether we agree with that.
That's I don't know.
Let me give you one more.
So I had a debate last night uh with a guy who uh was basically a constitutional expert.
And he was saying that even though the Constitution states, the Eighth Amendment, that a government cannot excessively fine an American citizen.
And they did that, the founding fathers, because the power of the state and federal governments can ruin you by incredible harsh punishments, cruel and unusual.
So everybody agrees that the fine leveled against Trump's organization in New York City is insane.
Trump does not have a good chance of getting that into the federal system.
So that means if if Trump's lawyers cannot get their appeal into the federal system, New York State, a corrupt state, is never going to reverse the fine, in my opinion.
Maybe they'll lower it a little bit.
But that means that any state can destroy any single American citizen by bringing cases against them, and then if found guilty in a civil proceeding, say, hey, you owe the state a billion dollars.
I mean, that is is unbeliev that's what Putin does.
All right, quick break, we'll come right back more with all things simple man Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly.com as we continue.
We continue now.
All things simple man Bill O'Reilly is with us.
Let me ask you the next question.
I want to move on to a second topic.
Uh two topics for you today.
Uh and that is we now have it's official.
It's gonna be Biden and Trump.
I want Bill O'Reilly to handicap the race with just two hundred and thirty-six days to go until we reach election day.
All right.
Um something's going to happen, and you have this on tape now, the Hannity Radio program, to define this election more vividly.
Something will happen.
I don't know what it is, but I know something will happen.
So to handicap it is basically all right, we're in a moment in time, but that moment in time is going to change drastically.
Yesterday I picked up on the Biden budget, and I wrote a message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com that the man is asking in one year for the federal government to spend.
7.3 trillion, Bill.
That's a lot.
That's not just a lot, Hannity.
That's socialism.
So that's bankruptcy.
Yeah.
Three trillion dollars less than the government will take in in tax revenue.
In order to make up that three trillion, you would have to seize private property in this country.
And that's what socialists and communists do.
Now, it is unconstitutional.
This budget will never pass.
All right, it'll never get through.
But this is what Biden wants.
The progressive left wants a socialist country, not a capitalist country.
Yet I would say one out of ten Americans understand the danger.
They don't understand this.
And the corporate media will never report it.
And then, of course, the next logical question is why would the corporate media support socialism when it's going to come in and take their money, Disney's money, Comcast money.
Why would they support that?
Because they will pass the cost of higher corporate taxation on to the consumer.
Just like all the lawsuits against big oil and big corporations who pays, we, the the folks, Bill, the folks pay.
Take your urchins to Disney World, you'll pay 30% more if Biden succeeds in raising the corporate tax.
But people don't understand it.
And that is what's driving me crazy.
And there's no central force in this country to explain it to them.
So there's you and me, and there are others that do what we do.
But the massive giant apparatus of information either distorts or ignores this seven point three trillion dollar budget, which is insane.
It's not you know wrong.
It's no it's i it is a formula for what what does socialism always end with?
It ends with more poverty, unfulfilled promises, and then when it's all said and done, how much of your freedom did you give up in the name of false security because the government never fulfills their promises?
All things simple man Bill O'Reilly at Bill O'Reilly dot com.
Sir, thank you.
All right, let me play for you what I thought was maybe one of the more interesting questions and answers, and this was put to Robert Her yesterday by California Congressman Kevin Kiley.
And the question was simple.
Would a reasonable juror, you know, could they have convicted Biden based on the facts?
Because that was one of the biggest arguments that Herr was making.
Well, he came off as uh we don't be unlikely to get a conviction uh because he's old and dodtering and forgetful and and he seems to come off as nice.
Anyway, listen to this exchange.
Based on the facts in anticipation of defenses presented in your report, could a reasonable juror have voted to convict?
As I said in the report, some reasonable jurors may have reached the inferences that the government would present in its case in chief.
So a reasonable juror could have voted to convict based on the facts that you correct.
Now, why then does he justify not bringing this to trial?
Because that was the whole point.
Yeah, he did all this.
Yeah, he willfully took the documents.
Yeah, he bragged to his ghostwriter that he had them in the basement and actually, uh, let me read them to you.
Guy didn't have uh any clearance to be uh to be to have this information.
Anyway, then and here's Robert Herr, you know, saying, I didn't exonerate Biden.
Congressman, that is one statute that we analyzed.
I need to um go back and and make sure that I take take note of the word that you use uh exoneration.
That is not a word.
I'm gonna continue with my question.
I'm gonna continue with my questions I know that the term I ultimately reached.
I know that's whether sufficient evidence existed such that at the likely outcome.
I know that it's willful redemption has the potential Mr. Hurts, my time.
Oh, how annoying.
Anyway, joining us is the Congressman Kevin Kiley from uh California.
He's on the House Judiciary Committee.
Uh what a revealing answer.
I didn't catch that till today.
I mean, I I watch as much as I can, but I didn't catch it until uh early this morning.
Uh good for you for asking that question, but that does doesn't that kind of blow his entire narrative that dottering old forgetful, nice and kind uh Joe would not likely get a conviction?
Yeah, well, it was certainly uh interesting and honestly it blew out of the water uh the entire approach that uh that the Democrats on the committee took uh to the hearing, which you just played a portion of that, Sherry Nadler uh opened his opening statement by saying this report exonerates uh Biden, which is obviously not what it does.
Uh so you know, let's just and people will debate whether he made the right decision or not, uh not bringing charges.
Well, wait a minute.
Should we really be debating that in light of the fact that all the evidence we had in the Hillary Clinton case that uh that that ended in July of twenty sixteen, even though top secret classified information on her server, and unlike President Trump, she did not have the ability to declassify things, and then of course thirty-three thousand deleted emails.
Uh, then of course the destruction uh of the servers with bleachbid and the destruction of devices with hammers and SIM cards removed, and then in the case of Biden, you know, when you really get down to it, eight separate locations they found classified information, uh, some in different rooms of the house, but eight separate locations, and wait a minute, and then he's gonna brag to his ghostwriter, oh, I found more classified documents, let me go get them and read them to you.
Well, he didn't have a security clearance, did he?
Uh exactly.
That's exactly right.
And not only that, you know, in the report itself, it says that Biden was uh extremely careless, it's uh irresponsible.
It says that he jeopardized uh US national security uh for the purpose of promoting his own presidential ambitions and making money uh from selling books.
Uh but even if we accept, you know, the her report's decision as it is, um, for the Democrats that come out to say that this is an exoneration, so egregiously misunderstand uh the nature of the report.
I mean, uh, you know, what uh Herr is saying is that in order to file charges, he had to be confident that each and every one of the twelve people on the jury would find each and every element of the offense beyond reasonable doubt.
And the reason he said he didn't bring the charges is because he couldn't have that confidence that you have that level of absolute unanimity at that high higher pleading standard.
So that's why I asked him the question uh about the reasonable juror.
Look, there's a lot of evidence here.
You presented in your report based upon that evidence.
Could a reasonable person just looking at it say, yes, this guy is guilty?
And so that's when he said yes, absolutely good.
Well, I mean, I I got into this with Bill O'Reilly just in the last half hour of this program, and and the issue is what what what what what does it say about our great democratic republic if we don't have equal justice and equal application of our laws?
Uh because when you compare the cases of Hillary Clinton and you to the treatment of her and the treatment of Joe Biden and his case and what they did to Donald Trump raiding Mar-a-Lago, and even though the FBI had previously been in the exact room where the documents were, and that nobody was going to stop them from taking them out of Mar-a-Lago, and the only thing they asked for was that they put a padlock on it a couple of days later, which they complied with.
Nobody said they couldn't come back if they thought that there was material, if they thought there were materials there that shouldn't have been there.
I'm sure they would have been granted access.
What does this say about our country?
What does this mean for a constitutional republic?
Well, I mean, it's deeply, deeply troubling.
And maybe one of the big takeaways is if you're going to go around prosecuting your political opponents, maybe you better be sure that you're not yourself doing uh the exact same thing.
But you know, one of the truly perverse implications of the report, which I also brought up as a hearing, is that by the very terms of Herr's report, uh, he actually used Jack Smith's indictment of President Trump as a reason not to indict President Biden because he said that maybe there's a need to prosecute someone in order for there to be a deterrent effect so that no one does this in the future.
But he says, Well, that's already happened.
We already have an indictment, we already have a prosecution, so there's less of a need for another one.
I think that's a pretty perverse situation where the Biden administration made uh Biden less likely to be prosecuted by virtue of prosecuting President Trump.
Do you believe that the Department of Justice under Joe Biden and Murray Garland has been weaponized and politicized?
I mean, I think there's abundant evidence of that everywhere uh that we look.
And I think that if you look through uh the report of uh of Mr. Herr, um, plenty of that is documented there as well.
Now, Congressman, look, it's no shock that Democrats lost their mind.
Fascism, Nazism, uh the Klansmen, you know, in their defense, of course, of all things Biden.
Uh, but it really they went they went off the rails yesterday.
Listen.
It's not a memory test for President Biden, it's a memory test for all of America.
Do we remember fascism?
Do we remember Nazism?
Do you remember communism and totalitarianism?
Have we completely forgotten the sacrifices of our parents and grandparents in prior generations?
What Joe Biden does and understanding Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid are important institutions that help seniors, not CNOW people.
I mean, I re object to that comment for people who see he's not nobody suggests he's CNO, and that's disrespectful of senior people with any kind of memory disability.
You are a Republican, though, aren't you?
I am a registered Republican.
Yes, sir.
And you're doing everything you can do to get President Trump re-elected so that you can get appointed as a federal judge or perhaps to another position in the Department of Justice, isn't that correct?
Congressman, I have no such aspirations, I can assure you.
You chose a general pejorative reference to the president.
You understood when you made that decision, didn't you, Mr. Hurr, that you would ignite a political fire storm with that language, didn't you?
Republicans have used the special counsel's report to further their longstanding efforts to re-elect.
Re-elect the former white supremacist in chief Donald Trump.
All right.
Well, good job.
I really appreciate you uh spending time with us, Kevin Kiley of California.
Great question.
Great answer yesterday that you were able to elicit from uh Robert Hurt.
Thank you.
Too bad.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
We'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll get to your phone calls.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
Final hour roundup is next.
You do not want to miss it.
And stay tuned for the final hour free-for-all on the Sean Hannity Show.
All right, let's hit our busy phones, 800-941 Sean.
I thought we banned Lewis the Liberal from Houston.
Didn't I ban you, Lewis?
I should have banned you.
I don't know why I didn't ban.
You know why?
Because I'm a nice person.
And I love people with opposing views on this show.
How are you?
I'm great.
I'm great.
But if you also recall our book views weren't always so opposing, and as of right now, I would have to venture to say that our mu our views are more in tune than ever before.
I just said Lewis the Lib simply because I wanted to make sure you remember me.
Oh, I remember you.
How could I forget you?
I mean, we got two of our best and favorite callers out of Houston, you and big time uh AJ from Houston, Texas.
Yes indeed, yes indeed.
Now I, Miss Linda, if you're listening.
Hi, how are you?
Long time.
Why are you sucking up to her and kissing her?
That's not a suck up.
I got Lewis back in the day when I was still a call screener.
Me and Louis go way back.
Oh man.
Hers was the first voice I ever heard on your show.
Lucky you.
It wasn't on the show.
It was behind the scenes.
But go ahead.
Suck up to Linda all you want.
No, no, no.
I actually I just wanted to call and say that as far as uh Lewis the Lib, I guess I'll be more like the Lewis more conservative now than ever.
In that right now, I'm so, you know, the Democratic Party has basically become the party of hypocrisy.
You can see it just in every day.
Uh like you was just like you were just speaking with the uh congressman from California when he was when you brought up uh Hillary Clinton and um what all she destroyed the the the the computer, the cell phones, the chips, and all of those files that she destroyed.
Isn't that called tampering?
I mean I I I think I'd call it obstruction.
Yeah, big time.
Yeah.
I would say either way it goes it was a crime.
Um like you said, she took stuff and didn't have the authority to do it.
Vice president, well, when he was vice president, Biden had him in, like you said, six or eight different rooms out in his garage next to his Corvette.
But they're saying when you listen, I watched the view this morning.
I know you're gonna love that idea that I Why would you why would you ever watch that hard-hitting news show?
The view.
All right, go ahead.
Well, honestly, you have to understand.
I watch it because like you, I have to have opposing views, and I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't agree with none of this that they say.
I mean, to be honest with you, in that when they're talking about like with uh uh with Biden, they want to prosecute um President Trump to the fullest extent of the law.
They want him so far under the jail they'd have to mail sunlight to him.
But you have a guy who just four years prior did the exact same thing, if not more egregiously, because he is the vice president.
He can't declassify a darn thing, if I'm not mistaken.
You are not mistaken, nor could Hillary Clinton.
You're making great points.
You're on a roll, you're doing well.
Exactly.
Now, so I'm Well, let me ask this question.
Only because of the constraints of time, does that mean now you're gonna vote for Trump?
Is that what you're telling me?
Yeah, I'm gonna I voted for him the first time.
Now, I'm not gonna lie, I got scared the second time because of the pandemic, and I was the biggest mistake of my life.
I'm still kicking myself.
Yes, you can fault me for that on that as well.
I have one other point, if I may make it.
Uh, when you were just speaking about abortion, from a from a uh personal standpoint, no, I don't believe in accepting cases of rape and sexual threat to the mother and or child might be carry the baby to turn.
However, and I guess you would say for political reasons.
I would say more for just uh the fact that the government doesn't have the right to be in a person's bedroom or in the doctor's office.
I don't think that it should be illegal.
I do, however, feel that not one cent of taxpayer money should fund it.
If you want to have an abortion, if you did if this is what you truly want to do for whatever I call excuse, you have, that's fine.
Just be willing to pay for it all out of your own pocket.
My tax money should not have to go for it.
I'm not gonna tell you not, I'm not gonna tell you you can't do it.
I'm telling you, I'm gonna want to pay for it.
Just like if I wanted to go have uh augmentation to my nether region, no one's gonna want to pay for that for me.
That's for my benefit.
I feel the same thing.
Should go for abortion.
Well, I gotta tell you, um, I I think you're right on the money, and I think that's a politically, I think a fair decision.
And then and if liberals feel so strongly that, well, poor people won't have access, that's fine.
I can live with that, but let them fund it.
You know, see, liberals, the left, they're only generous with other people's money.
Uh not their own money.
But I gotta run.
Louis the Lib, we love you, man.
God bless you, and uh talk to you again soon, I hope.
800, 941 Sean is our number.
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