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Feb. 9, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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A lot of news today.
Supreme Court hearing arguments on the case of whether Donald Trump can be kicked off the ballot in this case in Colorado.
Very interesting.
Every indication that it's going to be a 9-0 decision in favor of Trump.
And then the big bombshell of the day is the special counsel, Robert Hurr coming out with his report about Joe Biden and top secret classified documents and concluding that no criminal charges are warranted.
Biden would likely present himself to a jury as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.
And the very first line of the report states, we conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter.
You know, we could reach the same conclusion even if the Department of Justice did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president.
And then he states that by f Biden did in fact violate the law by willfully, quote, willfully retaining and disclosing classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.
And those materials included Mark classified documents about foreign policy in Afghanistan, notebooks containing, quote, Mr. Biden's handwritten entries about issues of national security and foreign policy implicating sensitive intelligent sources and methods.
And it goes on and on and on from there.
In other words, he's guilty.
You know, remember this you see all these examples of these old mob guys, you know, they put themselves in a weird wheelchair, they dress up in their pajamas.
I mean, is is this the message we're now gonna send?
Well, if you just come off as a as a very nice, sympathetic, well-meaning uh older man with no memory or a poor memory, yeah, there's nobody that's gonna want to find you guilty.
There, that that that's a whole new legal standard.
Never mind the whole double standard I've gone into great detail with uh as it relates to how they treated President Trump and how they treated Hillary Clinton.
If you're a Democrat, you get one system of justice.
If you're a Republican conservative, forget it.
Here's the best part.
In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden's memory was worse.
He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended, quote.
If it was 2013, uh when did I stop being vice president?
Question.
And forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began.
Parentheses, quote, in 2009, am I still vice president?
He didn't remember even within several years when his son Bo died.
And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that he was that was once so important to him, and it goes on from there.
Um anyway, former Speaker of the House, New Gingrich is with us.
Well, that's a hell of an endorsement by the special counsel.
And one interesting note, and then I'm gonna hand the ball to you is all the pictures that are in this report uh magically look like just like the pictures that were taken at Mar a Lango.
and four separate locations.
But anyway, Mr. Speaker, welcome back.
Great to have you back.
Uh uh that's a that's a great endorsement for President Joe Biden, don't you think?
Well, listen, I I I think whatever happens on the criminal side, this is politically devastating.
You know, part of the conclusion on page six is that they couldn't convict him because, quote, uh it the jury would not believe that it was a quote a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.
That's the exact quote by You you have a commander in chief, you have a commander in chief who, after all of this investigation, Robert Herr as special counsel concludes, literally cannot get his act together enough to be convicted of doing something because nobody will believe that he was responsible.
Now, I mean how would you like how would you like that as the guy in charge of defending America?
He doesn't remember when he became vice president, doesn't remember when he left office, he doesn't remember when his son died.
Um now, you're describing somebody, and I said this as a matter of fact, I said it on TV last night, I said it yesterday on this program.
He would not qualify to be a Walmart greeter.
You know the Walmart greeter people when you go in, they're the nicest people in the world, and you and the welcome to Walmart, great to have you.
Uh anything I can help you with.
Yeah, I'd like the sporting goods department.
Yeah, that's right over there.
They're basically saying in this report, Joe Biden's not qualified for that job, but he's qualified to be president.
Well, that's why I think this is actually a devastating report, and uh, I agree with those who said this is sort of the first real signal that the left is going to get rid of him.
Um because the language here is so harsh that even though this is very much like the Hillary Clinton deal where Clinton it's clear Hillary was guilty of all sorts of stuff, but let's not charge her.
So now you have her come in and go, you know, he's guilty of all of this, but we really shouldn't charge him.
Well, uh the first thing that led me to believe is so so don't they have an obligation to drop the suit against Donald Trump?
I mean, if that's I would think so I would think so, because it's clearly you know, this is this is not equal justice or equal application of our laws now, is it?
No, and in fact, if you'll notice, Biden was in fact uh willfully handling secret documents for years.
Uh so and as as you've pointed out, and as the pictures point out, in a box full of secret documents in his garage next to the Corvette that his son Hunter was working on.
I mean, you know, it it's it's it is so sloppy, so unimaginable, uh, and the notion that, and I think this is where the country is gonna uh look and put great pressure on the attorney general.
How does the attorney general Garland justify going forth against Trump in the in the Mar-Largo case when they are skipping Joe Biden, who uh her basically says, obviously he did it.
Obviously it's true.
Here are all the facts.
But we don't met the standard of willful.
Right.
Except except we now believe he is so incompetent, so sympathetic as a daughtering old fool, that we don't think we could convict him because the jury would just feel bad about uh doing something to a guy who clearly had no memory and and no capacity for being willful.
Well, if if if that's anywhere close to correct about the president of the United States, I find that very sobering in terms of our national security and in terms of our whole ability to survive as a country.
I I well tell you, I share your concern.
Now, her in this thing actually says things that are just factually inaccurate.
He said, most notably, after given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite.
Now, what he obviously doesn't know is that the FBI was actually at Mar-a-Lago in the very room with the classified documents.
Uh They had an up, you know, up close view of everything.
They chose not to do anything except a couple of days later they called and said, Would you mind putting an extra lock on the door?
So what her is writing here is not true.
And he just then cites the indictment that according to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then lie about it.
Um in contrast, Mr. Biden turned in classified documents.
They gave him time and a heads up of of when in fact they were going to come and look.
They they basically colluded with him.
Now, to answer your question about Merrick Garland, I don't think Merrick Garland cares.
That's why Jim Jordan and the House Judiciary Committee is looking into whether our DOJ has been weaponized and and politicized and whether the same thing was going on with the FBI.
And I think the obvious answer just using the Clinton model and the Joe Biden model, and then the treatment of Donald Trump, that is unequal justice under the law.
That's a dual justice system.
That's not justice in America.
That's right.
I mean, I think I think that uh the country there should be a huge outcry about this personally.
I I just think that the country has an oblig an uh opportunity here to bring such enormous pressure to bear that it's crazy.
Um the uh let me play let me play something for you.
I want you to hear Joe Biden this week.
Now, he made in the last week two big mistakes.
He's recalled the conversation with Francois Mitterron, who's dead and has been dead since 1996, and then he did it again at fundraiser's yesterday, talking about conversations with Helmut Cole, uh, who was the Chancellor of Germany when in fact it was Angela Merkel that he was talking about, but he mixed that up.
And then, of course, this great moment when he couldn't remember the terrorist group Hamas responsible for the October seventh attack on Israel.
Listen.
There is some movement, and I don't want to I don't want to be excuse my words.
There's some movement.
There's been a response from the uh there's been a response from the opposition.
But um uh yes, I'm sorry.
From Hamas.
But it seems to be uh a little over the top.
We're not sure where it is.
There's this continuing negotiation right now.
Uh he couldn't recall Hamas, refers to them as the opposition.
Is that what we call terrorists now?
But but I mean, if you listen to that voice, you can see why her thinks no jury would ever convict him.
I mean, he sounds like he is totally out of touch with the planet.
Well, Corrine Jean-Pierre was asked about this today, and she brought me up as an example that uh somehow I'm comparable because I once mixed up Jason Chaffetz and Matt Gates' name, which I have no recollection of ever, but for whatever reason, let me play here for you.
As it relates to the names and um and what he was trying to, you know, what he was trying to uh to say.
Look, many people, uh elected officials, many people, um, you know, uh they tend they can they can mix misspeak sometimes, right?
And look, I let me give you a couple of examples.
Uh you know, on Sunday, Speaker Johnson said Iran instead of Israel.
This happens.
And Joe uh Joe is not here.
There are many times I call Joe from USA Today, Michael.
I'm sure he doesn't appreciate that.
Um but and also Sean Hannity himself has said uh Jason Chavitz when he met Matt Gates.
I mean, it happens.
It really happens.
Sean Hannity himself.
I'm on the air four hours a day, Mr. Speaker.
I first interviewed you in 1990.
Uh do you think I'm anywhere near where Joe Biden is cognitively?
Well, I have a gun to worry about you.
You know, I love you like a brother.
Go ahead.
It was a good clean cheap shop, and I couldn't help myself.
Uh fair game, I get it.
No, no.
Look, but what she doesn't quite get is it doesn't matter.
You are a radio TV talk show host.
You don't have nuclear weapons.
You don't have the button.
You don't have a guy walking around with a big bag in case the war starts.
I mean, we're talking about the president of the United States.
We're not talking about By the way, with the I think those things would be in safer hands with me if you want me to be blunt.
Well, they would be that if if we're measuring cognitive ability, there are probably a hundred million Americans that have uh probably more, probably two hundred.
Look, and I I tweeted today that that you're you're presenting to see a commercial that takes exactly Robert Herr's language and just has example after example after example, and it's a very simple question.
Do you really want to trust this guy with America's future for the next four years?
And I think it will be devastating, and I am beginning to believe that he will not be the nominee because I just think uh this is beginning to move into a zone where I mean he's in La La Land.
All right.
Who replaces him?
Exit question.
Who replaces him?
Uh Michelle is the most likely if she'll do it.
Uh I think other than that, Newsom is probably the second most likely.
And then I think you go down to the governors of Michigan and Pennsylvania.
I mean they'll they'll they'll find somebody.
There's lots of ambitious people in the world.
And and how do they how do they leapfrog over Vice President Harris?
That's where Michelle has the great advantage.
She is she is the one person who the black community could not complain about if she were to replace uh you know I I can't see her wanting to do it, but you know, if they do this in at the convention in what is it, August, uh I would imagine that's when it would happen, and she might look at it, well, I only have to campaign a few months, I'll limit my appearances and I won't debate Donald Trump and I'll I'll just you know coast the victory.
Is that gonna be her plan?
I don't know.
I mean, I think he's decaying at a rate, and and today's report dramatically accelerates it, where uh I could imagine sometime this spring he announces he's not gonna run.
Uh and that uh you know, you end up with uh Michelle being the most likely person drafted.
Um drafted by the superdelegates or the delegates to the DNC, that'll probably be coordinating all together.
That's my guess.
But you know, you know the way it works by the delegates, by the activists, uh by the members of Congress, uh, and as a suddenly we love Michelle Club.
But I uh I didn't really believe this, but I have a good friend uh who is very well connected, who has been telling me for three months that billionaires are meeting with Michelle and Barack and talking about this race.
I'm sure that's true.
All right, Mr. Speaker, thank you.
We appreciate it.
All right, to our busy phones.
Aaron in the state of Colorado.
Uh well, you guys have not been in the news much today.
By the way, we're still following this issue of the special counsel her uh now re the documents and his report have been released to Congress.
We're getting more details as that comes in.
Anyway, sorry about that.
Aaron, welcome to the program.
Yes, Sean.
My question is after this Supreme Court hearing, it will be a better understanding of what insurrection is and how it's defined.
So if Trump wins and they say something along the lines of that he did not participate or incite, how will that affect the citizens that have been convicted of insurrection?
Well, it's an i it's you raise an interesting legal question, but you know, my analysis is pretty similar to Jay Sekulos, except the only difference is uh I wasn't involved in twenty-three Supreme Court cases and arguing seventeen of them like he has.
And uh and I think he's very smart in pointing out you you you just go for the one narrow answer.
You don't have to hitting a single is a win here.
And at the end of the day, if the statutory language and the constitutional language does not refer to the president, which is what the original lower court ruling was in Colorado before the Colorado Supreme Court jumped in, that's a pretty compelling argument.
And right there, he's saying case over.
The issue of insurrection, I kind of agree with him.
I don't think it's even gonna come up.
Well, if somebody's convicted of insurrection and insurrection did not happen, is that not false imprisonment?
It w uh based on what you're telling me, based on that set of circumstances, it would be.
Now, I don't know I don't know what the charges were in in a lot of these cases.
I do know this.
I know President Trump has never been charged with insurrection.
He's never never mind, let alone be convicted of insurrection.
And the idea that, you know, a number of members of a state Supreme Court think that they can unilaterally make that decision, or a Secretary of State of Maine thinks they can make that decision unilaterally is a joke.
I don't see this case in any way moving forward than other than uh a nine-zero, maybe eight-one I don't know, seven-two.
I I just can't see any other decision.
And I I don't know, I don't like to glean from what justices say or the questions they ask, or the things I but it was kind of clear that I think they're very they're very hell-bent on this point that the president's you know, officers, remember, he takes a very different oath than the officers of the United States.
It doesn't mention the president.
There are other means to dealing with the president, constitutionally speaking.
So I you know, I I I just think at this point, I think it's over.
I don't think they're gonna get even close in that case.
Well, all the newspapers and them are having cringe moments right now.
Yeah, I mean, they're upset because even the New York Times is acknowledging it looks like that the president's team's gonna win this and they're gonna win this handily.
Um anyway, I appreciate you uh checking in.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh let's see.
If the Supreme Court ends up dealing with agreeing with the DC appellate court, this is on the immunity issue, which they decided on Tuesday against the president's immunity claim.
Um, I wonder if Trump is right.
Would that expose potentially or open up potential exposure to past living presidents like Obama, Bush, for example?
I mean, it's an interesting question.
Just the news.com talked to former Georgia uh GOP Georgia Congressman Doug Collins.
He warned that the recent immunity ruling against the president could in fact have implications on past presidents that are alive, and they're just things that need to be held accountable, he said, and by that ruling, they're basically opening up the door that they could, for example, prosecute Obama uh the drone strikes which killed Americans, and or George Bush's policy of detainees and get mo and all that garbage that we litigated to death at the time.
But even the most liberal justices were skeptical of the Democratic uh Trump ballot ban, uh, which is the separate issue.
Anyway, back to our phones.
Let's say hi to Jason is in Louisiana.
Jason, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, nice to talk to you, but watching and listening to you for a long time.
Thank you, my friend.
What's going on?
I would like to comment on the uh Mayorcus hearing.
I think, in my opinion, it was nothing but a dog and pony show.
215 to 215 with an undecided.
It just reeks of, well, we tried, look, we tried to do something, you know.
And uh it just in my opinion, I think Mayorcus was guaranteed or promised immunity from what uh what he's doing now.
Uh well, he laid it out in writing.
Sarah Carter broke this story on this show yesterday.
He laid out in writing in 2021 exactly what their manifesto was going to be and and how they would quote use the word discretion uh to maximize their their lawlessness and their assisting, they're aiding their abetting in the in the lawlessness, and their contributing factors and and everything that now has resulted in a disaster for the country.
This is the biggest national security breach we will find out over time in the history of this country.
And then we'll scratch our heads.
How did we let this happen?
And the answer is is because Joe Biden, Alejandro Mayorcas, Kamala Harris, and and all of their minions doing their bidding were out there, and and lo and behold, here we are.
They they were out there facilitating this the entire time, lying to Us about it the entire time and now they're taking on a ton totally different you know posture, which is well called Congress needs to do something, and even they admitted today that Joe has the power to do things through executive order.
So, you know, these are really weird times we're living in, let's put it that way.
Well, I don't think I don't think that Joe Biden's doing this all on his own either.
I think he's being guided because honestly, this whole administration reminds me of that old movie weekend at Bernie's.
But I mean, Yeah, it he does have that little weekend at Bernie's look about him, doesn't he?
Yes.
But anyway, thank you, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Have a good day.
All right, man, you have a good day.
Appreciate the call.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh all right, Jason in North Carolina.
Jason, how are you?
Glad you called, my friend.
Uh, happy to be with you, Sean.
Glad to hear from you.
You're a great American, and I appreciate you.
You're a great American, and I will tell you, one of the most beautiful sites in the world are the mountains in North Carolina.
Nice place.
It is a very nice place.
I moved out of New York as well to come down here to get away from that nonsense.
But today, uh on something you had about uh uh Bud Light.
Um our discussion we had yesterday, yeah.
Yeah.
So you were asking us, hey, you know, maybe it's time we go back.
You know, we know they kind of ticked you off.
It was an oopsie, you know, let's think about the workers that we're affecting.
Hey, by the by the way, I never said it's an oopsie.
I never never said anything of the of the kind.
What are you making this up?
I'll try to be polite about it.
But yeah, I didn't say you made an oopsie.
Go ahead.
You're cracking me up.
But uh so you and so you were uh drawing on our heartstrings about you know supporting fellow Americans and they're out of work because of us taking our dollar and moving it away from a company that doesn't believe in what we believe in.
And so I thought about it.
I said, I understand what he's saying, and uh I get.
But then every day I hear a commercial that you support that you endorse, and you actually say, and this is for pure talk, and you say, you know, uh basically I'm gonna summarize it.
Um you don't only vote member, but to vote with the money that you spend.
Spend your money with a company that supports your beliefs.
So I have said that.
Yeah, I agree.
Right.
So here's here's the uh counter-argument.
You're forgetting a big part of this equation.
And and context and texture and history matter.
Well, what is their past history, Ben?
Number one, they employ 65,000 people.
Those are a lot of hike-paying career jobs because it's such a profitable company.
Number two, you know, what about their an original supporter of folds of honor?
Uh what about the 30 million dollars that they've given to veterans' causes that we know of?
I don't know.
That's that's what Donald Trump put in his truth social post when he said that.
That's context.
That's texture.
That kind of mitigates, you know, the idea that, okay, this this company uh is as woke as people are claiming.
Um Dana White, I don't think he would say is anything but a strong, solid Trump supporting conservative.
Uh he's not shy about anything.
And he partnered with them with the UFC.
But my argument, you know, you're mix you seem to be minimizing what I'm saying here.
I don't really give a I don't give a rat's ass about Anheuser Bush, to be honest with you.
Um I can but I'm glad they've done all these other noble things because I I think it it warrants at least a look at a second chance.
So I like that part of it.
I from the day one, I knew that this if the boycott was successful and it was immediately.
I knew what the outcome would be, and that is rank and file people that had nothing to do with this marketing department.
They're gonna end up paying the ultimate price.
And I yeah, I care a lot about the thousands that lost their jobs that have significantly reduced incomes.
I don't I don't care about Anheuser Bush management.
I don't they don't mean nothing to me.
They're not an advertiser on this show.
And I just think I can't I'm I'm care more about them than I do about hating the parent company that is clearly making efforts now to mitigate what they did here.
Well, my actual point is so you're saying, okay, let's go ahead and support what they've done for us.
Let's look at the good and the people they employ.
But yet, like I said, with the pure talk.
I'm saying uh look at the whole big pic look at the whole picture.
Don't look at a a little snippet.
And I get that.
And what I'm saying is, but you're asking us to pull our dollar from other carriers and the people they support and the and the Americans that work for them take out our dollar and move to Pure Talk and support them because they believe in what we believe in.
We should we should take our dollar to a company that supports our belief.
No, I'm I'm I'm also telling you that for the same exact coverage, 5G network, and the same cell towers, you pay about half.
So I'm also telling you to do it for practical financial reasons, and you should dial pound 250 and say the keyword save now if you've not done it.
Um so no, what uh look, I I'm sorry if uh my mind goes towards you know they go towards they go towards a younger Sean Hannity.
They go towards guys like me.
A guy in you might look at me now and say, Oh, Hannity, you got a TV and a radio show, and you're paid a lot of money, and that's all true.
I never expected any of it.
I I always thought, well, since I started him radio that I was about to get fired and I'm doing my last show.
Um, but here I am all these years later, and I'm very grateful to all of you for giving me this microphone.
But the old Sean Hannity, if he lost a high-paying career job at a mortgage payment or rent payments and car payments and insurance payments and college tuition and somehow try and save a little bit for retirement, I'm thinking about that guy.
I'm thinking about that woman.
That's that's that's where my mind goes.
And if you think that's hypocritical, I'm I'll take the criticism.
That's fair.
But my my last question is okay, we want to keep our our our guys still employed.
So how do we keep companies accountable for when they don't do what you know when they go right against their their listen, if if they screw up again, I can't nobody's gonna be able to help them.
Dana White can't help them, Sean Hannity can't help them, Donald Trump can't help him.
You know, at that point, however, I do know that their Super Bowl ad is not going to be covering Dylan Mulvaney.
I do know that they did partner with Dana White at the UFC.
Dana White, kind of known for his strong opinion, salty language, and his fierce defense of freedom of speech.
Yeah.
So, you know, I don't think these are insignificant people.
Dana White didn't need Bud Light.
He told me straight up that he had other people that wanted to be his beer sponsor.
But he said after he talked to the company and looked at their whole story, it convinced them that you know what, it's time to move on.
And I would only say the only reason I would want people that like Bud Light, liked it before, to think about it.
I'm not telling anybody what to do.
I don't tell people what to do.
Is because I care about those people that risk losing their jobs and those that lost their job and hopefully can be rehired.
So you're saying give them a second chance for the working folks.
But you but you feel that if they go ahead and they do the But I also think I think partnering with Dana was a big mayor culpa for them.
They're basically saying we now know who our customer base is.
That's what they're saying with that decision, don't you think?
Well, I do hope that really truly is what it is, and it's not just a money move.
I mean, yes, they're there to make money.
And uh they have unfortunately they've come out with really sad apologies and and bad they've been they've been awful.
I totally agree with you.
Listen, if you feel if if it's if it's i in your heart you feel like you're doing the wrong thing, I'm not gonna try and talk you out of that.
I just to me that my I used to be that guy.
That's who I was.
And I relate to it, and I live paycheck to paycheck.
It sucks.
And I just don't want to see these people hurt.
I understand.
All right.
Well, listen, I I I don't uh I'm just telling you, if it's your if it's you, you're gonna want your high-paying career job back.
But I got a roll.
You've been a very interesting caller, Jason.
I appreciate you checking in.
Glad you're out there.
All right, coming up, Hannity Nine Eastern, we'll have the Supreme Court, the back and forth over the issue of whether or not states can kick Donald Trump off the ballot.
Didn't go well for the Liberals.
Also, the Robert Hurr report is out, and if it is devastating in one way, it just chronicles how bad Joe Biden's cognitive decline is.
We'll have all of that.
Jonathan Turley, Alan Derschwitz, Greg Jarrett, Stephen A. Smith, Alina Haba, and much more, nine Eastern Hannity on Fox.
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