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Dr. Carol Swain - January 9th, Hour 3
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So I've been telling you since I got back this year what to expect this year.
Joe Biden won't talk about immigration, can't talk about foreign policy, Afghanistan, he can't talk about Russia.
He can't talk about China, can't talk about our borders, can't talk about the economy.
You know, seven, eight months of Vidynamic talk and and millions of millions of dollars invested in a campaign didn't work out particularly well for him.
And they certainly can't run run on a record that says, yeah, you're better off than you were four years ago today.
And that's why Joe Biden, when he does speak, which is rare, and then gets lost afterwards and needs his wife to direct him which way to go and getting him off stage.
Now, Democrats, though, they are in a state of panic, as recently evidenced by both Barack Obama, apparently got very animated in a White House visit, uh, Michelle Obama in a podcast saying, I am I'm terrified about what could possibly happen in the twenty-four election.
Even James Clyburn, if it wasn't for James Clyburn, Joe Biden likely would not have won in 2020.
He saved him in South Carolina.
And he's saying he's very concerned about the demographic shifting.
Hispanic Americans, African Americans, young people, you know, a big part of the Democratic Party base, they're leaving Joe Biden in droves, and that's got everybody concerned.
Let me play Klyburn and Michelle Obama.
Obviously, black voters uh were instrumental in President Biden getting then Senator Biden or then Vice President Biden getting the nomination in 2020.
How how worried are you about black voters showing up for President Biden in November?
Well, I'm not worried.
I'm very concerned, and I have sat down with President Biden.
I don't remember no uh saw those reports.
Obviously, black voters uh were instrumental in President Biden getting then Senator Biden or then Vice President Biden getting the nomination in 2020.
How how worried are you about black voters showing up for President Biden in November?
Well, I'm not worried.
I'm very concerned, and I have sat down with President Biden.
I don't remember no uh saw those reports.
I think we should stop insulting the other side, including MAGA.
I'm I've mentioned publicly many times that a lot of people are voting for President Trump, not because they believe in his family values, but they look at some of the things he did.
He grew with the economy, uh, he was right about NATO, that they should spend more money, he was right about pointing out about China, uh, you know, he was right about that, you know, some regulations do not cause positive output, so that's why they're voting for him.
And I think the Democrats should be a little more thoughtful when they talk about MAG and say, Why?
Not not like and then not don't act like every attribute of Trump is an attribute of them.
It's just not true.
Anyway, here to analyze all of this.
We have Dr. Carol Swain, senior fellow for the Institute for Faith and Culture, uh, author of many books, the more recent one, The Adversity of Diversity.
Trey Penny's back with us, president of the National Fallen Officer Foundation, 22 years retired Dallas police sergeant, current candidate for the U.S. House.
We are supporting his candidacy.
We think the world of Trey.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
Uh, Carol, I'll start with you because I've not had you on.
You were one of the people that the former Harvard president, Claudine Gay, uh apparently plagiarized and and used and lifted your material, apparently word for word.
Uh, what's your reaction?
She finally got let go.
Well, I have written an an opinion piece that was published Sunday in the Washington Times that gave the Harvard Corporation and Claudine Gay an F for the resignation letter and for the Car Harvard Corporation uh organization statement surrounding her.
And my lawyer has issued a hand letter to them asking particular question.
They were supposed to respond by the end of the day yesterday.
So we will move on to the next stage at some point.
What is the next stage?
I assume some type of legal action.
Well, there will be some type of legal action, and at minimum she violated copyright infringement of everyone that she pleasurized.
But in my particular case, I would argue, you know, that the damages were more extensive because her whole research agenda seems to have been built on my prize winning 1993 book, Black Faces, Black Interest, The Representation of African Americans in Congress that won three national prizes and has been cited in two Supreme Court cases and many lower court decisions.
Well, I've known you for many years.
I've known you for decades, as a matter of fact.
I mean, you are a true scholar uh and author and uh a mate, you have an amazing mind.
You're brilliant.
Uh, and I've got to imagine it's probably pretty hurtful that she takes credit for your hard work.
Well, I I did not know this was taking place.
Uh the pleasurism happened happened in nineteen ninety-seven, but I would argue that her early articles all revolved around my work.
But I was just informed December 10th, along with the rest of the world.
And what angers me is that academia, there's no place for someone like me.
There's no place for someone who is creative and comes up with ideas that cut against uh what is expected, but she gets rewarded heavily for just basically putting out what people want to hear.
Well said, I mean uh what I don't understand is I never mind giving attribution.
I I always like to cite sources of articles on this program and on TV.
Uh why why would I want to take somebody else's hard work and claim it to be my own when I can just say, hey, so and so wrote a great piece.
Let me tell you what it's said that I agree with or I disagree with, whatever it happens to be.
It's not that hard to do.
Um, every every book I've ever written, I have extensive footnotes and you know I and attribution.
Right.
In academia, our statue depends on how many times we get cited.
And so the more citations you have, the more important your work is.
And so when I started with Black Faces, Black Interest, published while I was a Democrat, and it was a path-breaking book.
It earned me early tenure at Princeton, but it didn't have the right conclusions.
What I would argue is that Claudine Gay's work seemed to have been an attempt to counter the findings of Black Faces, Black Interest.
And starting with her dissertation, that's where the pleasurism of my work begins, in her dissertation.
And my argument is that when I read her work, there are many places I should have been cited because the ideas came from Black Faces, Black Interest.
It wasn't direct pleasurism, but it's clear that her whole research agenda early on was trying to counter what I said.
I argued that political party was more important than the race of the representative and that Blacks could represent whites and whites could represent Blacks.
And I argued against the creation of majority Black districts because it was clear that if you consolidated all the minorities and got a 65% Black district, the adjacent districts would be totally, I would say, lily white, they would go Republican because whites are more conservative than Blacks.
And so my book was not something that the progressives wanted to hear, and that's why people would not want to cite my book.
Many scholars did.
Many scholars built on my work.
She should have cited the work and then refuted it with her data.
Yeah.
Let me bring in my friend Trey Penny.
And by the way, we're going to watch your congressional race very closely.
I'm glad you've taken this step.
You've been a true leader for many, many years now.
And I think you'd be a great addition to Congress.
What do you make of this, these shifting demographics?
Because, you know, you got somebody like Joe Biden, he...
Right now, Donald Trump has a majority of Hispanic Americans in polls voting for him.
I mean, he's lost twenty to thirty points.
Uh you see, twenty-point drop with African Americans, you see uh uh even bigger drop among young people.
Um if if uh yet the Republican candidate looks like Donald Trump's gonna be it, i if he holds on to even half of that loss of Biden, he easily wins, and he probably wins by a landslide.
Now, I know we've had false hope before that there'd be demographic shifts because I would argue that the Democratic Party, you know, they they go knocking on people's doors in cities and states and minority communities at election time, and yet they do nothing to solve the the issue of law and order and safety and security or fix the schools uh that are broken down and dilapidated in many communities, and and I don't I don't think they've been served well by these democratic promises.
You're absolutely right, Sean.
Uh the bottom line is the Democrat Party has essentially done the baiting switch on a black community.
I mean, what they've done is they show up and they say, Oh, we're here to help.
And then behind the the scenes, they're creating the conditions to make them need help.
So the black community is is essentially caught on.
Look, I'm I'm in the black community all the time, actually trying to move voters over to the conservative side, getting people to think about what if the Democrat Party has, what have they given you all these years?
I mean, they made all these promises, but at the end of the day, what do you end up with?
I mean, that's the same thing.
You know, I I grew up under that type of that type of narrative where there no one was promoting any type of uh look.
I'm an academic, and I always talk about uh, you know, being ac academically sound and and finding ways to education to enhance your opportunities in life.
But nobody nobody's talking about that.
They weren't talking about it then, and they're not talking about it now.
So we got to stop giving power to these democratic structures, and all they want to do is promote social issues for the black community so they can keep the black community whining.
They think the black community are going to continue to run to their direction because they they have these social agendas that they can push on them.
But the problem with this, Sean, is that that now they have created a dynamic a dynamic that they're not gonna be able to run from.
This immigration crisis is going to create a real issue for the black community because you know what?
Now it's not about a social issue.
I don't care about the social issue where you're telling me uh uh, you know, my black issues or are no longer black issues anymore.
Now I gotta worry about you taking my resources and giving it to people that are not even from this country.
You think about all the all the uh the states like California that are now trying to give insurance, health care insurance to illegal immigrants.
And you gotta ask yourself, what is the black community thinking?
Because they're already struggling with health care.
We we saw during COVID where the uh commodities in these communities were demoralizing these communities where blacks were dying at a higher rate than anywhere else.
And you gotta ask yourself, what is this gonna do when you bring this type of dynamic and you compound a system that can't afford to take care of its constituents right now?
Quick break, more with Trey Penny.
Again, pennyforcongress.com if you want to help out his rundown in Texas.
And also more Carol Swain on the other side.
Dr. Carol Swain as we continue.
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Look at the numbers, though.
And I'm citing in this case, USA Today Suffolk University poll.
And all right, in if you go back to 2020 uh and you look at the African American vote, uh, Joe Biden got 87% of that vote.
If you look at where he is now, he's at a low of 63%.
That's a a precipitous and dramatic decline uh with Hispanic voters.
You know, well, he trails Donald Trump by five points, 3934 in 2020.
You know, he swamped Donald Trump with that demographic group two to one, sixty-five to thirty-two percent.
Right, right.
Look, I I can say this, Sean.
The voters are looking.
They're not gonna go out and vote for vote for uh Joe Biden.
First of all, they're not ex There's nothing exciting about the guy.
He can barely walk, he can barely talk.
I mean, you don't think you think the black community or are you you think they're naive or that they're blind, they don't see this.
They see the our president falling apart in front of their faces.
They see this.
They're not gonna go out and vote for that.
And and what I would encourage the Republican Party to do is to make these in rolls.
Look, this is not this is not the the 2020 election or 2016.
Guys, this is a whole nother dynamic.
Now we have to start reaching out to that demographic.
We gotta bring that demographic in to keep them closer to us because we're gonna want to give we're gonna be the ones that give them that that uh uh economic prosperity that they're looking for.
Which we can say to Joe Biden that we're not gonna allow you to you to cost American taxpayers 451 billion dollars in this illegal immigration crisis.
We're not gonna let you put that burden on us or our kids.
We're gonna come back.
We're gonna fight for a a president and leaders that are gonna fight for our interest to make sure that we're able to take care of our kids, keep make sure our kids have the best education, the best opportunities to succeed in life, and that's where I come in at.
That's why I'm running for Congress this cycle because I'm proud of going to these same politicians asking them to do the work for us.
Our communities are being ridden, overridden with crime, Sean.
We don't have politicians in DC fighting to to address these issues.
Well, just sit back and be ready because you know it seems uh there's very few groups you can openly attack and say anything you want, but African American conservatives are attacked with regularity.
Uh Carol Swain, you've experienced that your entire career, sadly.
I have, and I would say that a lot of the blacks that have fallen away for the Democrats, they were not uh just naturally vote uh for Republicans, but there is some enthusiasm that's been there for a while among black men for Donald J. Trump.
And I think that if the if the Republicans want to capitalize on the fact that blacks are so disaffected, they don't need to just focus on black issues.
They need to focus on American issues.
And if you look at crime, if you look at the rising cost of living and illegal immigration, we can go down the list of issues that impact all Americans, and I think that treating African Americans just like other Americans who are concerned about their children, education, that's the way that you get them to vote for Republicans all the way down the ticket.
Amen.
Well I appreciate both of you, Trey Penny, thank you.
Carol Swain, we love having you uh as well.
Happy New Year to both of you.
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Uh George, free state of Florida.
George, how are you?
Welcome aboard, sir, and uh glad you called.
Happy New Year.
Hey, happy new year, Sean.
Hey, um I can't think of a no uh better way to start off the new year as a as a resident of Florida.
Congratulations, you made the move.
I finally made I've been threatening to do it, wanting to do it.
I I had obligations that prevented me from doing it, but here I am.
This is now my full-time home, and I'm proud to call Florida my home, my residence, my domicile, whatever you want to call it.
But yeah, I'm um and and I'll tell you, I'm shocked it's gotten so much news.
I I guess people are bored in the news industry if they want to talk about where I live, but whatever.
Uh I'm glad to be here, and the people have been great.
Yeah, you got so much uh great opportunity down here, Sean.
I'm gonna think you're about two hours south of me.
And uh I mean it's not only we say the free state, you got extra more free money in your pocket, but you also we got the law and order state.
So you have the freedom of your first amendment here that you don't have to worry about uh you anybody protesting your private residences like around the country and stuff like that.
And also, we got the the the our governor does great great job keeping things open and our our work and the construction, it's just a great state to to be in.
And I'm just so happy for that.
But I wanted to uh the other reason why uh I called is one of my my son who during the COVID time he worked at a at a restaurant as uh as a runner.
And um with the with and one of his he befriended a Hispanic gentleman uh in the kitchen, uh helped him a lot, uh, took him back in home to home, and he confided with my son that he entered the country illegally about ten years ago,
and he described how his ordeal where he left his home with six other people, each carrying two gallons of water through a desert, and at the other side of the desert, only three of them survived.
And he talked about he he he couldn't he didn't want you mentioned the stuff that he he was made to do and make choices, but it was a gruesome, and he told my son that his that he told his family back home, do not make this trip.
It is not worth it.
And I'm just thinking about the border now that our we are we have a administration that Dangles is carrot, and we see at what happens at the border, but behind the border, all the lives are that are being lost and the vulnerable exploiting the vulnerable, Sean.
And and we're not we don't see that because of our legacy media won't report.
You know, won't report, and we don't have a full-fledged alternative to the the the monopolized the mainstream media.
And so I think that's getting lost in the cracks of all the victims to this.
Just because uh I think you as you say the Democrats played the long game and they know that maybe in time they'll have a lot of people scattered throughout the country, and they can these purple areas they can turn in blue and things, but they're they're sacrificing people's lives, not only their lives, but with the sex trafficking and breaking up families.
And it's just it's it's this it's just terrible.
This is why elections matter.
If you want to change it, everybody hearing you, everybody listening to me, you have yeah, you have an opportunity before you, and that's coming in November.
And when all's said and done, it's gonna matter who gets elected.
That's the only way we can implement change in this country.
Otherwise, I would argue not only does it stay the same, it's going to get dramatically worse.
That's my opinion.
Uh and I I think the record proves it.
And you know, I'm I'm just hoping that people have had enough of this.
How much more of this garbage how many more self-inflicted problems do we want to bring on ourselves?
At some point, you've got to hit rock bottom and say they're awful.
What they're doing is awful.
What they're doing doesn't work.
What they're doing is hurting.
What they're doing is dangerous, even.
Anyway, appreciate it.
Good call, my friend.
Thank you for your warm welcome.
Bill, free state of Texas next, Sean Hannity Show.
What's going on, Bill?
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
I really appreciate it out of nothing, literally.
You you can't negotiate with them.
Our people in Congress can't negotiate with them or make a deal with them or think that they're gonna uh enact laws that were in place when uh President Trump left office or anything else.
They'll the only thing that we can do is either cut their money off completely where they're cut not they can't they don't have any money to do this with anymore and vote them out of office because we're in a cold war with these people, and uh nothing else is uh is gonna work and to think that it is is just foolish.
It really look well what what let's be even more outspoken than this.
Let's let's say call this what it is.
They are they are what they're doing is unconstitutional, it is illegal, and it's also endangering our country.
And the national security risk that we are taking on as people, you know, flooding the border now from China and Russia and Egypt and Afghanistan and Syria and Iran does not make me sleep well at night.
Because we all live through 9-1101.
I don't want that to ever happen to this country again.
And and for some reason, Democrats seem perfectly comfortable with this system.
I don't know why.
They're not critical of it.
They're not willing to take the the tough stand and enforce the laws that we have.
Um, you know, it's all fine and good to go after Alejandro Mayorcus, he's the DHS secretary, but you know, the bug the buck on this ultimately stops with Biden and Biden and Kamala Harris and Majorcus and Circle Back Gensaki and Karin Jean-Pierre.
They've all been lying to us.
The borders closed, the borders secure, borders closed, borders secure.
They're lying.
And we're having all these unvetted people in, and it's a self-inflicted problem.
They did this as a matter of policy.
Uh, they decided to ignore the laws of our country, our own constitutional order.
They're the ones that have been aiding and abetting in human trafficking.
They're the ones that justify it.
They're the ones that blame Trump and blame climate change and blame Greg Abbott and blame pretty much everybody but themselves, and we're the ones that have to deal with the mess that they've created.
Now, even Democrats that have to deal with this and can't afford to deal with it, you know what?
They're getting fed up with it.
You know, this should be this this should be a 90-10 issue.
And the 10% that would say open borders, they're just out of their minds anyway.
The American people believe in law and order.
Fundamentally, the American people are good people, and they don't like what they see happening.
You know, we have a process.
Maybe we can expedite our process, maybe we can make improvements to the process, but you have to do it legally.
You have to respect co-equal branches of of government.
You have to, you know, respect the law as it is.
You can't just enforce laws you like and ignore the laws you don't like, and you know, If I did it or you did it, we'd be in jail.
Well, with the appropriations that they just passed, it I think it'd be fine with most people out here if they let the government 90% of it shut down permanently.
Because you the you know, you can't just keep kicking the ball down the road.
Well, that's exactly what we're doing.
We're kicking the ball down the road, and you know what?
There's gonna be a price to pay.
Not gonna be pretty.
Anyway, Bill, appreciate you being with us, my friend.
800-941 Sean, our number, Eric in Utah.
Eric, I know you're probably heartbroken out there that Mitt Romney is not running again.
Yeah, it tears me up inside.
It's killing you.
It's it's it's it you're aggy you're losing sleep over it.
You're agonizing over it.
Yes, yes.
Um, I am.
We gotta get something to happen here to make him want to come back.
Well, I don't think he's coming back.
It's a good thing.
Uh what's on your mind today?
Well, I had a thought.
What if the migrants, uh asylum seekers, families, doctors that are coming across the southern border received a flyer when they came across saying maybe articulating how a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote to make the country like the country left.
Maybe the Democrat Big D party might do something about it.
Maybe stop it.
Uh, do you really think that's gonna happen?
Because I don't.
No, I mean it wouldn't be the border patrol or anybody like that, but I just thought, you know, if they got a flyer stating, you know, this is what happens if you vote Democrat because you know they probably will be able to.
Well, look, I think Democrats are, you know, I I think there's certainly a selfish aspect to this.
Uh they want to be seen as the heroes.
They want to be seen as uh, yeah, we're the ones that are gonna let anybody into the country unvetted, and somewhere down the line they're gonna be pushing for amnesty.
Um I think that every Joe Biden illegal immigrant that has been aided and abetted by Joe Biden needs to be identified and deported.
I'm well what about the children, Mr. Hannity?
You're so cold hearted.
No, I'm not cold hearted.
You know, we we had questions about what should happen to the twelfth of fifteen million illegal immigrants here prior to Joe Biden being president.
And you know, Donald Trump closed the border, he sealed it off.
We had the lowest numbers ever.
They inherited that.
They made every excuse in the book.
Oh, we need comprehensive reform, oh, the climate change caused it, or Greg Abbott caused it, or Trump caused it.
And none of it is true.
This is of their own doing.
And then I would assume they think if they offer something of great value, you you can buy citizenship in other countries.
Did you know that?
You may not know that.
If you invest enough money in a country, it and different countries have varying systems of buying citizenship and buying a passport and saying that you're and becoming a citizen.
Some it's actually relatively inexpensive, and then other you know, countries make it very, very difficult.
Like I think in Australia, New Zealand, you've you've got to like live there six years before you can even apply for citizenship.
And you have to spend X number of dollars in terms of uh building jobs and building up their economy, you've got to offer them something of great value in return.
And Democrats would want to just give it away for free, because I can't think of a better place in the world yet uh to live but the United States of America, and and they just want to give it away.
Now, if if you got citizenship, if if you had open borders with one party, let's say it was the Republican Party, and they gave you amnesty and then you became a citizen.
Would you tend to vote Republican or would you tend to vote Democrat?
I think you'd probably want to reward the people that gave you the free citizenship, would don't you?
Which is why you need to get the word out to them.
Get it in the middle of the city.
Sounds like a it's what happens.
Sounds like a quid and a pro and a quote to me.
Good call, my friend.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Mark Indiana, we got about a minute for you, minute and a half.
How are you?
How are you doing, Sean?
Thank you for being an American and uh another American would like to talk to.
Thank you, my friend.
God bless you.
You, sir, or great American.
What's on your mind?
Well, it just kind of bothers me that the Democratic National Committee seems to think so little of us Americans that they push Joe Biden as the best and you know most awesome solution to all the problems in our country.
They are the problems in our country.
And a damn thing got better the past three years.
Nothing that they say on TV is true.
The economy is not doing well.
Everybody is suffering.
Every possible thing that you can look at financially, every American's hurting.
When they come out and they tell you how great things are, how stupid do they think we are?
They think we're pretty stupid.
It's pretty obvious.
And you know, they they think they're gonna get away.
Their strategy now, they have telegraphed all of it.
They are gonna run on those evil, rascally, MAGA Republican Nazis.
Uh they're gonna go after Trump, Trump, Trump, and January 6th, January 6th, demagogue abortion, and then the usual playlist, racist, sexists, etc., comes into play.
That's their strategy.
But they've had but but by that time they'll have had four years to fix the country.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
That's the question they don't want to have to answer.
They don't want to hear our answer.
Well, you get a chance to give them that answer, whether they like it or not, in November.
That's why this election matters, and the consequences of this uh upcoming election will be, you know, that they're saying, Oh, democracy's at risk, and we may never ever vote again.
And Donald Trump won't let voting happen.
It's it's all a bunch of crap, hyperbole, lying, distortion.
You know, it's it's who they are, it's what they do.
They can't win on issues.
Americans don't support them on policy.
They don't like the direction of the country.
Now the question is, will Republicans get their act together enough?
And that's something that's usually in jeopardy also.
All right, good call, my friend.
Appreciate it as we continue.
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
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