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As we kick off this uh presidential election year from our new home, or my new home, which is the free state of Florida.
Our number remains the same 800, 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Um we're now at a point, everybody every day is is going to be prognosticating on what's about to happen.
And I just, as I said in the last hour, I want to warn all of you that, you know, get ready, buckle up.
It's gonna be up and down and an emotional roller coaster.
Uh the the certain things that you can absolutely depend on, and that is that the media is gonna go all in to do everything they can do to elect, assuming it's Joe Biden or whatever, whoever the Democrat happens to be, uh, to be the next president.
They will slander, they will smear, they will be smirch, they will attack, they will be unrelenting, uh, they will use by any means necessary, they will tell any lie to advance their radical socialist agenda.
The biggest pol biggest problem they all face is that Joe Biden's policies have not been successful.
And as events continue to unfold in the world stage, and in despite of everyone lecturing us how great the economy was, and oh, Wall Street had a good year, uh, it's not impacting the majority of Americans as is now referenced by many of these polls.
For example, Wall Street Journal poll released on New Year's Weekend, you know, shows Joe uh Biden losing to Donald Trump by four points.
A significant sixty-one percent of respondents expressing their disapproval of Biden's performance in office.
And I and it comes down to the basic stupid.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
You know, what policies has Joe Biden put in place, you know, that that have bettered the lives of we, you, the American people.
And then you look at a little deeper into the USA Today poll and everything in between.
These these poll numbers are devastating.
You know, if you look at this USA Today poll, you know, Biden has lost a whopping 31 points with Hispanic American voters.
In fact, it's it's now so bad Donald Trump is winning in that demographic.
He's lost a significant amount of young people, a significant amount of African Americans, and he's losing in every poll imaginable, which is why you know I would be on guard from now until the DNC, you know, uh primaries and after the primaries,
and then when we get to the convention, you know, up till that point, Democrats, I think are going to be very capable of making a last minute switcher roo, but I don't think based on these poll numbers in USA Today that it's gonna be Kamala Harris, because her numbers are lower than his numbers.
Anyway, joining us now as we take a snapshot, kicking off the new year.
Uh Matt Towery is with Insider Advantage, and Robert Cahely is back with us with the Trafalgar Group.
Uh Gentlemen, happy new year.
Glad you're with us and uh welcome to our new broadcasting home, my new uh home in the state of Florida.
Yeah, no, I'm welcoming you, Hannity.
I got here long before you did.
So welcome to the Sunshine State.
I'll tell you it's funny because I actually went out a number of days and met a lot of people.
There wasn't one person that didn't like me.
I'm used to being hated everywhere I go, so it was an it was a refreshing change of pace, I gotta tell you that.
Um anyway, happy new year.
Look, let's look at these numbers here.
But you know, even MBC is pointing out that Biden right now has the lowest approval rating of any incumbent president starting out on election year.
How significant is that?
Well, uh if you're asking me that question, Sean, uh I would say that um it's fairly significant.
Now, we have to remember how these polls operate, like they did in 2020.
You had all kinds of network and broadcast and print polls coming out.
It got down to the very end when you had those swing states all the way down to the end.
They are going to be tight no matter who the Democratic nominee is.
I think it looks good for Republicans, but trust me, those polls were will narrow in those key states, and that's what we're gonna have to watch, no matter who the Democratic nominee is.
Let's get your take.
Robert Cahale, uh, do you first of all agree with Matt on everything?
And as you you know, take a snapshot of where we are starting out this new year, what does it say to you?
First of all, uh Sean, let me welcome you to the South.
Uh it's good to have you back.
Uh it's great to be back.
I never should have left, but I I had no choice because the Fox News channel was based in New York, but you know, I'm based out of the Miami Bureau.
Well, um, you know, the way I look at it is the polls are one thing, but it it really does come out to turning out voters.
And until the Republicans learn how to build the kind of machine that the Democrats have, these races are competitive.
And and it's not just a matter of voting early, it it is an entire machine.
When that when and Matt Matt and I specifically discussed this, when they parachuted in a thousand grassroots people to work, uh professionals, paid people in Georgia for that Senate race, I've never seen anything like that.
So until the Republican Party builds that kind of an apparatus that isn't about making a few consultants rich and is about winning elections, it's these races are gonna be tight no matter what happens.
Well, I think they're gonna be tight too.
I mean, I think everybody has to assume that this is gonna look, we both we all three of us know this literally this year can come down to six states and six hundred thousand voters, and that's it.
And and that's why when I listen to some, you know, what we what I call like super super duper maga that think they're the most MAGA of the of the MAGA movement, you know, I I sit there in amazement because they they they don't want to seem to make any appeal to voters that actually usually traditionally win the election, and and those would be crossover voters or what we call independent voters.
Matt?
True.
And um, you know uh the times of wasting, so to speak.
I mean, we're we're focused now, you know, on the Iowa caucus and the primary in New Hampshire and the like.
But in in the the blink of an eye, we're gonna know what's going on.
We're gonna be right back to where we were in 2020.
And I don't know if you recall, I know you do you do recall this, Sean.
But President Trump, his re-election campaign, they were scrounging around for money to get ads up.
The ads they were running weren't very good.
The organization of the ballot security was not all that great.
Now I think that the Trump organization has their their act a little bit better together this time because Robert and I have both been shocked to read these stories about how well organized they are in Iowa.
I didn't know they were capable of this kind of organization, but apparently they're doing it.
So Trump, if Trump's a nominee, perhaps they learn from 2020.
But the the Republican Party as a whole, I haven't seen any evidence yet.
They really have a big push to get these votes out and to and to go find the votes.
You have to go find voters.
They don't just uh sit on a you know the side of a street.
They have to be found.
And that's what the Democrats are good at doing.
I say this all the time.
I said it in the last hour.
I maybe repeat it every hour I'm on the air this year leading up to the election, and that is Republicans have to overcome their reluctance and their resistance to voting early and voting by mail.
I I I know it's not the system you want, but it's the system you've got.
Deal with what the reality is.
And the second thing is I don't see any efforts by the RNC, and and I've tried to say it now for over a year, uh, to match the efforts of Democratic the Democratic Party and their legal ballot harvesting efforts, which are tremendous.
It is fundamental.
Um the Democrat Party is built on uh a structure that is based on winning elections.
That is all they focus on is winning elections, putting the right people in place, you know, having having trained professionals who are out there organizing, and and the Republican Party just i isn't there.
It's not I mean getting everybody to vote early, uh Sean is the beginning.
I mean, that ought to be step one.
That can't be the whole playbook.
Uh that's not enough.
It has got to be about widening that appeal, getting getting those new people, and not just to but getting people who were on the other side who are who are disenchanted and giving them a reason.
I mean, the these young people are looking for somewhere to go.
And so and appealing to these people.
What do you think about the the USA Today poll and their analysis of a potential third party candidate?
Matt Towery, a, do you think there's going to be a third party candidate?
B, uh, if you look at the poll in USA Today, the Suffolk University poll, uh, anyway, if it's Trump, uh anyway, Biden would still be trailing, but a whopping 17% supporting an unnamed third party candidate.
Black voters in particular, African Americans, they're saying they will support a third party candidate in November.
Um, if these numbers with minorities hold, there's no way mathematically I see that Joe Biden losing that significant a portion of the Democratic Party base can actually win, Matt.
Well, we got to remember this.
In 2020, what really got the African American vote moving were unforeseen circumstances that took place that caused the riots of 2020.
And um and before that, you had the discussion about uh Charlottesville and the and the uh issues there.
This time they there may be new things that will cause African American vote to coalesce or turn out.
But what I think will happen, Sean, is I think we'll probably see a third party candidate.
I don't think that that candidate will get as much of the vote as these polls are showing, but I think it will be enough of the vote to make the the contest between the Democratic and Republican nominee very close and give the Republican a good shot at possibly taking the White House back.
That's that's what I see.
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Matt Towery and Robert Cahaley are polsters as we look forward to this uh presidential election year.
Poll after poll has been showing an erosion of minority voters for Joe Biden.
Do you see that holding?
And that would include young people, African Americans, Hispanic Americans.
Robert Cahaley.
Well, I you know, when I look at it, I'm I know that uh that uh Connell West is looking at running, and he he you've had him on the show a couple of times, I believe.
He has a tremendous appeal.
Uh he can, you know, kind of pox on both their houses.
He done like either party has a message that sells that hey, these guys aren't looking after you, show them how important you are.
I do think that's a message that could work and peel off a lot of those folks.
And you know, you when you when you take I mean when you take that much out of the Democrats' Army, that's when you start to do damage.
I mean, that is like losing some of their best soldiers.
There's one other thing.
If I'm writing my analysis, Matt, that abortion uh did not help Republicans in 2022.
And I I think it played a big part in a state, for example, like Pennsylvania, where Doug Mastriano, good guy, didn't support any exceptions for even rape incest of the mother's life.
Uh I think that could be the kiss of death for some Republicans in some states.
Democrats want to run on abortion hating Trump and then lying about about conservatives.
How big a factor is that going to be?
Well, the abortion one is a big factor.
And um the issue there, Sean, is that the the Republicans got that decision handed down barely well, it's leaked, of course, first, and then it was handed down.
But that that was a almost impossible situation for them to handle happening so quickly before the elections.
Uh what what now the public is going to focus on, the Democrats are going to focus on, are these individual states that have passed these various abortion bills.
And I don't have an opinion one way or another.
I'm not going to talk about it from a moral standpoint.
I certainly have an opinion, but I don't want to talk about that.
From a polling standpoint, though, the abortion issue hurts Republicans with white female voters.
And believe it or not, the ones who are most upset about it are the white females who are over the age of 65, which is pretty ironic.
But those are the ones who get the most upset and end up voting for a Democrat.
How about the issue of abortion from your take?
Robert Cahaley.
Yeah, I think the abortion was a lot scarier in 2022 because it was the feeling of what would happen and the extreme laws that were going to come into place.
But the reality of it has most people who really want abortion don't live in a state where it's illegal.
It it was on the ballot and but what about Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan?
Um what about the states that actually matter?
Georgia.
Well, Michigan is the constitutional amendment.
It's over.
Uh, and so I'm not sure abortion's gonna play in Michigan.
It you know, it it could play in Wisconsin, but uh I I think that they're gonna they're gonna have laws that are gonna more fit their state.
Uh Pennsylvania, I don't know much about any new particular law, and I don't think it's illegal now.
I think in Georgia it may play because you know they have the heart, uh a heartbeat uh type of uh limitation.
So I I think in that state probably more than the others, but in these states where it's kind of considered settled, I'm not sure it's gonna play that big.
They're gonna demagogue it, but if it's not if no if the Republicans aren't running on changing the law and the law is what the majority like, then they should probably leave it alone.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
And what policies have Joe Biden implemented that has made your life better?
To me, it's really it should come down to that question.
Those are the last questions that the Democratic Party and the media are gonna want us to be asking.
Uh we'll be checking in often.
Uh Matt Towery and Robert Cahaley, thank you both.
Happy New Year, gentlemen, and uh welcome to the free state of Florida, my new home.
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One of Harvard, Claudine Gay, who has now announced that she is resigning uh following what you pen.
Now I guess we're just waiting to see what MIT does.
Uh but anyway, there are other charges, multiple charges of plagiarism on top of everything else, and of course, the horrific answers that they gave about October the 7th and what happened uh on that day to our ally Israel and the attacks, the terror attacks that killed so many and took so many others hostage.
Listen.
Does M at MIT does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
If targeted at individuals not making public statements?
Yes or no?
Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.
But you've heard chance for Intifada.
I've heard chance, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context when calling for the elimination of the Jewish people.
So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules.
That would be um investigated of uh as harassment, if pervasive and severe.
Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct?
Yes or no?
If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.
Yeah.
I am asking specifically calling for the genocide of Jews.
Does that constitute bullying or harassment?
If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
So the answer is yes.
It is a context dependent decision, Congresswoman.
It's a context-dependent decision.
That's your testimony today.
Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
That is not bullying or harassment.
This is the easiest question to answer, yes, Miss McGill.
So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
If it uh is if the speech or no if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.
Yes.
Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide.
The speech is not harassment.
This is unacceptable, Miss McGill.
I'm gonna give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
It can be harassment.
The answer is yes.
And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?
It can be, depending on the context.
What's the context?
Targeted as an individual.
Targeted as at an individual.
It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
Do you understand that dehumanization is part of anti-Semitism?
I will ask you one more time.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it's a couple of things.
And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation.
That is actionable conduct, and we do take action.
So the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard code of conduct, correct?
Again, it depends on the context.
It does not depend on the context.
The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign.
These are unacceptable answers across the board.
What action has been taken against students who are harassing and calling for the genocide of Jews on Harvard's campus?
I can assure you we have robust.
What actions have been taken?
I'm not asking underway.
I'm asking what actions have been taken against the students given students' rights to privacy and our obligations under FERPA.
I will not say more about any specific cases other than to reiterate that processes are ongoing.
Do you know what the number one hate crime in America is?
I know that over the last couple of months, there's been an alarming rise of anti-Semitism, which I understand is the critical topic that we are here to discuss.
That's correct.
It is anti-Jewish hate crimes.
And Harvard ranks the lowest when it comes to protecting Jewish students.
This is why I've called for your resignation, and your testimony today, not being able to answer with moral clarity, speaks volumes.
I yield back.
Well now, Claudine Gay, the Hobbid president, is out.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Uh all right, let's start in my new home state.
Uh Jason in Florida.
Jason, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
How are we going, Sean?
What's going on?
How are you?
How's it going?
So I got a call from a friend of mine in New York today and said, uh, how's it down in Florida?
I said, I love it.
And he goes, Yeah, it's 27 degrees uh up here.
I hate you.
I'm like, you don't have to hate me, just you know, move yourself.
It's that simple.
Yeah, so um I had a question with um more of a comment.
So we're always bringing up how Trump needs to come back or have a candidate that is remotely close to him.
So I recently got out of the military a little while ago.
And I was there during Trump and during Biden.
So for me to see the significant difference between the two of them.
And how it completely changed the morale, how the retention has gotten so low.
And just the spirit of everybody being in during these times is detrimental.
It is bad.
Uh being in, I know Trump raised the pay for military three percent.
And it boosts everybody, everyone had a little more confidence training.
But I think the best thing he did was allow people that needed care.
Remember that there was two sets of books that that the VA were keeping.
One remember that we've had that big scandal, and one set of books was the real set of books.
Somebody would come in, they'd want aid or help, and some people had really serious and timely medical conditions, and they weren't being taken care of.
And then Trump said if you don't get the care you need, you can go to any hospital you want and the government will take care of it.
Trump did a lot for our veterans for sure.
So being in after Trump has left, and during that time, uh Biden closed down the pipelines and then COVID hit.
COVID was one of the hardest times for for military because one, we weren't allowed to go and leave.
A lot of us, if you weren't within a certain mileage, you weren't allowed to go and leave.
So you weren't allowed to see your family.
So from the time that COVID started to about almost two years, a lot of people didn't get to go home.
A lot of people didn't get to see their family on holidays and everything.
And on top of that, gas prices went up, which made it even harder for anybody that wanted to go out and enjoy their time with their friends on base or go out and do anything you couldn't.
because the gas prices are so high and with the inflation that came with it it lowered basically lowered our pay when it came to trump that gave us that percentage it basically was taken away So look, I mean i i it's amazing because I was reading all these year end articles about how great the economy was.
And by the way, thanks for your call.
Thank you for your service, my friend.
And they're they're all talking about well, the stock market went up X number of dollars, which by the way is good for a lot of people.
if you have a retirement account, it's connected to the stock market.
I don't like what I'm reading today about the economy and the potential of a really significant change coming this year.
I think that is beyond possible.
Or, Oil prices, by the way, are going back up.
But if you know, you just take a look at some of the comments of some economists.
Uh look, one guy, for example, Harry Dett is warning that everything bubble will burst in the new year.
Um that that's a little scary for one person to make that kind of remark.
And and others are saying the same thing.
Look, I just don't trust the stock market, nor do I use the stock market as the barometer for how the economy's doing, because throughout Biden's presidency, you know, over sixty percent of our fellow Americans have been living paycheck to paycheck.
And and that to me says everything you need to know.
Every time you go shopping, you can see the difference.
Every time you fill up your gas tank, you can feel the difference.
Okay, gas prices of late have come down, but now with war raging in the Widd Middle East, I wouldn't be surprised if they go back up again.
Uh somebody certainly is telling the Biden administration to create more output, uh, which they are doing, but our demands have never been higher, and they're not keeping up with it.
And we're still importing energy from countries that hate us, which is never a good idea for national security.
And we should be the most energy dominant country.
The inherited energy independence.
That only happened under Trump for the first time in 75 years.
And the next step, logical step after that would be energy energy dominance.
And we should be providing the rest of the world with our energy, oil, gas, and coal.
And anything's it should be viewed as just temporary and just political, because we know what their new Green Deal agenda is all about.
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Joel will stay in my new home, the free state of Florida.
Joel, you're next.
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Welcome.
Welcome to uh Florida and happy new year, Sean.
I'm really happy to speak with you.
I actually have people that represent my values, you know, that I I appreciate being in office.
I have a governor I appreciate.
I have two senators I appreciate.
Things are looking better for me.
I agree.
I agree.
Uh I have a question.
So Mexico and a lot of the other countries are causing issues with bringing you know the illegal aliens over.
And why don't we have Congress or I'm not sure if they create it.
I I should have looked it up, but why don't they put tariffs on like avocados, guava, um, or and a lot of the produce, because a big percentage of produce comes over from uh uh you know to Mexico and to you know why or some way of of you know causing some pain to their to their uh their money, you know, their currency.
Well, I mean, I think there's a lot of things we've got to do with China, for example, threatening to go after Taiwan or what they call reunification, which is really a uh a takeover.
Uh we better start paying attention because we learned during COVID not producing our pharmaceuticals here in the U.S. was not a good idea.
And we're gonna learn very quickly, assuming that there will be no consequences for China's actions, because there haven't been any uh under Joe Biden prior to this.
Uh when, you know, that's where 75% of our chips come from.
And that's such a massive part of our economy.
All those things worry me.
Everything you're talking about worries me.
And and thank goodness if Florida produces a lot of their own uh, you know, their own their own produce, tomatoes and celery and lettuce and you know, all those different things, different fruits.
I I got strawberries today.
I mean, who who can get fresh strawberries from their state?
Such a good point.
I love fresh strawberries too.
I'm gonna eat healthy.
I'm even gonna walk more.
Uh get my 10,000 steps in a uh a a day.
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