All Episodes
Previous Next
Dec. 23, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
38:10
Kari Lake - December 22nd, Hour 2
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
This is an iHeart Podcast.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
And I'm Carol Markovich.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes, inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
At our two Sean Hannity show, toll free.
Our number is 800-941-SEAN if you want to be a part of the program.
There's been so much news about the issue of what Joe Biden was bragging about, thinking he was going to run his campaign on, which was Bidenomics.
But now even yeah, the Washington Post commentator on Meet the Press last weekend saying, uh, bad idea.
You might want to uh get rid of that term and get rid of it once and for all.
Um, as we have been discussing, government has such a big impact on our life.
Uh, you know, for example, local government has a big impact.
Your school board will have a big impact on what books your kids are going to use to be educated with, whether or not they're going woke, whether or not they they want to get into issues involving sexuality at inappropriate ages, uh, transgender, gender identity, CRT, et cetera, et cetera.
It's a big impact on your family's life.
And then, of course, the ability of states to tax you, and the ability of states to regulate you to death.
And, you know, this issue of mass migration uh out of blue states into red states is is very, very real.
I mean, if you look for example, the the current average of of gasoline is 325, it's lower in Florida, but 488 in California, that's insane.
You know, under under Joe Biden, prices are up about a buck fifty a gallon.
Well, everything you buy, every store you go to, that is a big deal.
Um, and if you look at, you know, the state of Florida, then they don't have a state income tax, but they have a 13% income tax out in California.
Uh, and even if you're and they say, well, we're just taxing the rich.
No, they're not.
If you're uh a married couple and you're making 84,000 a year, you're still paying six percent of your income to the state.
That's on top of whatever you're paying nationally, up to a uh top marginal rate of just shy of 40%.
It's insane.
Uh, you know, you look at the impact of government spending, it's what we're at 33.8 trillion dollars in debt.
How how do you ever pay that back?
We need these are crazy numbers.
The sales tax, for example, what why is it higher in California?
7.25%.
Why is it lower in Florida?
It's six percent.
You know, income and and corporate taxes, uh, for example.
Why is it 13.3%, eight, and eight point eight percent in in Florida?
Florida doesn't even have a state income tax like California.
You'd think, well, okay, they have a state income tax, but they they charge less elsewhere.
You know, uh, you look at all these numbers, and and I'll tell you, it's just it's it's killing people when you have two-thirds of our country now, sadly, living paycheck to paycheck, it is unbelievable.
Um let me play for you two cuts here from last night, then we'll check in with our friend uh Stephen Moore, uh, talking about how Newsom messed up California, the first California governor to lose population, and then debating their state taxes and and the impact of that.
Let me play that.
What are you it's a simple question?
How do you explain this phenomenon?
What governor, what's going on?
When I was in the Navy, I got orders to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado in Southern California.
And I was a lifelong Floridian, but I went there and I was like, man, this is one of the most beautiful places on earth.
And I think California has more natural advantages than any state in the country.
You almost have to try to mess California up.
Yeah, that's what Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor.
He's the first governor to ever lose population.
They actually at one point ran out of U-Halls in the state of California because so many people were leaving.
Of course, he's imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself from those restrictions and going to the French laundry while his people were suffering.
He led the country in school closures, locking kids out of school while he had his own kids in private school in person.
Now he's very good at spinning these these tales.
He's good at at being slick and slippery.
He'll he'll tell a blizzard of lies to be able to try to mask the failures.
But the reality is they have failed because of his leftist ideology.
California has lower taxes, more lower than 32 states for working families in the middle class, significantly lower taxes.
They support that.
That's right.
Do you support a six percent income tax on people?
A couple of years.
I'm a great progressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the working poor.
People in his state pay more taxes in the low end than we tax people on.
How does $7 a gallon gas help working people?
That doesn't help working people at all.
How does paying an 8% sales tax help working people?
That doesn't help working people at all.
They have the highest taxes in the nation.
People flee to be able to save money to get out of California.
And you have working class people that move to these other states, their dollars go much further.
But here's the thing, they want to take this biodynamics and they want to double down on this for the next four years.
How many people are able to afford groceries now compared to what you were doing three or four years ago?
I talked to people, you know, I I talked to a woman who had a had a uh a cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it up, and it got to be so expensive, she has to take a lot of the stuff out.
That didn't used to be the case.
People used to be able to work hard and get ahead.
That is not true under Joe Biden.
All right, joining us now, Steve Moore is with us, author of the best seller Trumpenomics inside the American First Plan to revive our economy.
Uh I want to give credit to Steve.
Uh when this debate came up and became public, he confided in me, and I'm and by the way, I I hope I can say this on the air.
You have been doing a deep dive into blue state red state.
Is that correct?
Is that okay to say?
Yeah, our laughter and I have been working on this for 20 years, Sean, and it's uh the the tit the working title of the book, we're only halfway through, is called the Blue State Meltdown.
And of course, there's no blue state that is melting down faster than California, except maybe, maybe New York.
Well, okay, so you how do you explain a loss of in the last in the last two years we have on record 750,000 people leaving California and nearly 500,000 going to Florida?
And that was my first question last night, right out of the box.
How do you explain this phenomenon?
Um and look, Gavin, uh you know, is he very good at deflecting.
He never really gave an answer on that.
He had a prepared first opening statement, if you will, uh that he went to, and I went back to him, I said, but you still didn't answer the question.
I was trying to be respectful.
Yeah.
And and we still didn't get an answer in terms of the phenomenon.
He just wanted to attack Governor DeSantis, but you know, how do you explain that?
If I'm the governor and I'm the first governor to lose population in my state, I think I'd be looking in the mirror and asking myself, why is this happening?
Yeah, you know, after that debate last night, by the way, Sean, you did an amazing job.
That was a great uh uh work in terms of being the the uh real chaperone of that debate.
Um I was struck by the fact I mean you had to ask um uh Gavin Newsom questions three or four times before he would answer.
In some cases, he never answered those questions, including I'd say he'd say I said, wait a minute, can you just answer the question?
Yeah, I'm gonna get to your answer and then Do whatever he wanted.
Right.
Well, you know what they're calling him today is the artful dodger because he dodged all your questions.
But the the the toughest one for him to answer is how can a place like California, and DeSantis handled this very well.
I mean, let's face it.
You lived in California.
I I adore California.
It's the most beautiful place on the planet.
It's a sl a little slice of heaven.
Beautiful beaches, beautiful mountains, beautiful women.
You know, what's not to like about California and the progressive movement.
And it's not just it's not just uh uh Governor Newsome, it's been happening now for ten or fifteen years.
High taxes, high regulation, forced union rules.
Uh, you know, just as an example, the governor there wants to outlaw gas cars over the next five or six years.
I mean, come on.
The government's gonna tell you what kind of car you can buy.
You know, the other thing that's happening in uh California that's really sad is that the middle class is being hollowed out out there because you can't afford to live there.
You know, you were being charitable, and you know, I looked at these gas prices.
It's about 305 today.
It's almost five dollars a gallon in many areas.
So you're paying two bucks a gallon.
Think about this two dollars a gallon more to fill up your tank in California than Florida.
Well, that's thirty bucks a week.
You know, it's a tax.
It's a tax.
They taxed.
And by the way, and who's impact who does that impact the most?
That impacts the poor and the middle class the most, and they got to use that money to get to work so they can put food on their table and pay their rent.
And and guess what?
That that thirty bucks is a lot of money to people.
Well, look, this is why this debate was so important.
I'm so I'm just so pleased you sponsored this because the whole debate at America really, the whole election in 2024, really is going to be about do you do you want America to look like more like New York and California show sinking, or do you want it to look like in like vibrant places like Texas and Arizona and North Carolina and of course Florida that are booming today.
You know, if California stays on the same trend that it's been on for the last five years, think about this, uh Sean.
It will lose three or four congressional seats in the next census.
That's how many people are leaving California.
That's never happened before in a hundred and fifty years.
It's never happened.
And but and having lived there five years in in the early part of my life in the eighties, I remember at the time uh my sister and I had a uh two bedroom that we shared for a while, and it was like seven hundred and twenty-five bucks a month at the time.
It seemed like an enormous amount back then, but it was what it was, and and I'd go out, work hard and and pay the rent every month.
Um, but yeah, that that is a tax.
Everything else is a tax.
And except for property taxes, and that's only because of Prop 13 out in California.
Uh all the taxes are higher and uh in in California over Florida, and they don't have a 13%, you know, in uh income tax.
13%.
I mean, that's on top of so let's say you pay the 40% rate or 39 and a half percent.
Okay, uh just to add the numbers up, that's fifty-three cents out of every dollar, just in income taxes if you live in that state.
Well, we're gonna have to start calling it taxifia.
I mean, it's amazing.
California versus Florida.
California, as you just mentioned, has his uh 13 and a half percent highest income tax rate, zero in in Florida.
The middle class tax rate, depending on how you define the middle class, is somewhere between seven and nine percent if for in California, it's zero in Florida.
And then as you said, then they have a higher gas tax, they have a higher corporate tax rate, they have a higher capital gains tax, they have a higher dividend tax.
I mean, what's the old joke?
If it moves tax it, that seems to be the philosophy uh in California.
And by the way, that state could be turned around.
It's hard to believe, isn't it, Sean, that you know, 50 years ago Ronald Reagan was the governor of California, and now it is turned so far to the left.
This is progressive governance, folks.
How do you like it?
Homeless people on the streets, filts, no, you know, uh the fentanyl crisis, border out of control.
That's what they I mean, DeSantis said that very violent crime rates were so much higher, it was twice the rate per hundred thousand than the state of Florida.
I mean, that is impacting every everyday life.
How did how is it last night that Gavin Newsom said they have a higher murder rate in I mean he uh some of the statistics, I don't know, he Just pulled them out of his hat.
Because that's not true.
I think you showed on the screen that the crime rate is double in California what it is in Florida.
And yet he totally just denied it.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with Steve Moore on the other side than your calls coming up on this Friday, 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Hey, if you want a killer extended Black Friday deal, our friends of Pure Talk have it for you.
Now remember, they're the company that is a veteran-owned company competing with the big carriers, ATT Verizon T Mobile.
Make the switch today.
Pound 250, keyword, save now.
Get your free Moto G 5G phone and start saving money for the exact same service from our friends at Pure Talk, simply Smarter Wireless.
Alerting you to all the ways the government wants to butt into your life.
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, Or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, as we continue, Steve Moore is with us, author of the bestseller, Trumponomics.
One of the things that I didn't want to do is insert myself too much into this debate.
When when somebody wouldn't answer a very straight question, I would go back in and say, okay, can you now answer the question?
We heard your speech.
Now, you know, answer.
But look, I I don't family.
Uh I have some issues with the people around him, but I I'll save that for another day.
Um the behind the scenes, that this there's a whole book in that.
But uh, you know, it's uh I I'm just asking people what do you prefer?
Why do the people of California not want to explore the possibility that life can be very different for them?
Well, it's a great question.
I mean, you have it, you know, California has been a state now where it really is the very, very rich who can afford to pay those massive taxes because they're you know, the people of Silicon Valley, for example, you know, the billionaires, they can afford to pay that high tax rate.
And then at the bottom of the ladder, you know, California has the most generous welfare benefits.
So it's people at the very rich and people very poor.
That you I think you said it last night, or DeSanna said it.
California has one of the highest rates of income inequality.
I thought the left was against income inequality, because the only people who can afford to live there are very rich in the way and the if you're a married married couple and uh of two people and your income's eighty-four thousand dollars a year, you still pay six percent income tax.
Unbelievable.
Well, in California, that's a lot of money.
You know, that that makes living there almost unaffordable for for that couple.
But, you know, it it is what it is.
You know, I think people I think people are leaving based on all the things we're talking about.
And if they wanted to reverse the trend, they'd have to go backwards, and I don't see that happening.
Uh, not very likely.
I mean, Newsom has been elected now twice there, way with overwhelming you know, numbers.
And I don't get it.
I don't get why people say, hey, we need a change here.
I mean, look at the beaches.
The beaches have needles on them.
You don't see beef needles on the beaches in in in Florida.
You you can't go barefoot on a lot of the blue beaches in California.
In a lot of these cities.
It's unreal.
The poop map.
I mean, that cracked me up, but that was good.
Uh all right.
Well, Steve Moore, uh, you're on TV tonight with us, by the way.
We'll see you tonight.
Thank you, my friend.
Uh, and thank you.
Uh, we had a lot of long talks.
Steve's Steve and Art Laugher are writing a great book.
When do you think that'll come out?
Uh, about we're hoping to get it out in about six months because we want it front and center in that presidential uh debate.
Oh, perfect.
I thought it was amazing that Newsom said he would not run for president.
I don't I don't I don't know if I believe him.
Well, he's now said it to me on multiple occasions.
Uh you know, I I I have to take people at their word and then you know, trust but verify, right?
Uh anyway, Steve Moore, we appreciate you.
Thank you, sir.
You're a good man 800-941 Sean, our number you want to be a part of the program.
You are listening to the best of the Sean Hannity show, and stay tuned.
More memorable moments, interesting guests, and a lot of fun coming up next.
25 to the top of the hour.
Toll free on numbers 800, 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Well, before we get to Curry Lake, one of the big issues is the issue of the border.
And in this case, uh, it came up a lot in the debate that we had last night with California Governor Gavin Newsom and Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida in our red versus blue state versus state debate.
And anyway, let me play Gavin accusing DeSantis of supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is absurd, and you know, for lying to migrants.
And uh and then I pressed them on the issue of border security uh during this debate.
Listen to those two.
And I'll be honest with you.
I think there's probably one person I wouldn't listen to on this topic more than the guy that I'm standing next to, Ron DeSantis.
He is absolutely lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration.
When he was in Congress, he supported amnesty.
When he's in Congress, you supported John Boehner's bill.
It's a fact.
When you were in Congress, you supported Obama's supported Obama's efforts to advance comprehensive reform.
False.
The last guy you want to talk to on the immigration.
Your immigration policy can best be described as a governor from the state of Florida going into another state, the state of Texas, lying to migrants, promising them jobs and housing, sending them to an island, Martha's Vineyard, and then sending them to a parking lot in Sacramento, California.
I met with those migrants that you lied to under false pretense.
That kind of gamesmanship, using human beings as pawns, I think is disqualifying.
So again, a guy who stands here who's been out on the Republican debate stage saying, well, he's gonna be tough.
He's gonna shoot people with backpacks, uh, and that he has a strategy to potentially even invade our second largest trading partner, uh, Mexico, that has a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the Obama administration is the last guy to be spent standing on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.
Now there's two things that are interesting about this.
California and Martha's Vineyard, uh, I thought they offered sanctuary status for illegal immigrants.
That is that is their stated policy.
As of January 1, Gavin Newsom's signing in a law, anybody that is illegally in this country, they're gonna they're gonna get free health care, medical, uh just for being in the state of California.
Just walk in and there you go, you get free health care.
Martha's Vineyard.
Oh, they were so compassionate, they threw them off that island within 24 hours, and we went and we found that there were plenty of rooms in Martha's Vineyard available at the time.
Let me just play one more quick cut here when I press uh Governor Newsom over the border security issue uh during this debate last night.
With all of these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted, the question was and remains is this a clear and present danger from the countries I put up on the screen.
That's what is that a clear and present danger to America?
And what do you do in the interest?
Why the president of the United States put a $14 billion package in front of Congress they can act on today?
And what would you haven't done anything with that package?
You support a border legislation.
I support the $14 billion package President's put forward that includes 2,300 border agents and customs officials.
By the way, also includes $850 million in new technology for border security.
You hear nothing from Ron DeSantis.
You hear nothing, Sean, respectfully.
You hear nothing from the Republican Party.
They play politics that president put before the plan up to address society.
Let me ask the question another way.
Does it worry you that our top geopolitical foes, the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran, China, Russia, uh the Afghanistan, Syria, that they're at our southern border.
You're a border state governor at all.
This is the same thing.
Why else would I have put the answer is yes, why else would I put the National Guard?
Why would I have just increased it by 50% on the largest port in the Western Hemisphere in my state?
Now, why doesn't he deport him to me is the the question?
If we look at the numbers of Iranians, 659 that we know of, six thousand three hundred and eighty-six people from Afghanistan that we know of, five hundred and thirty-eight Syrians that we know of, uh 3,153 Egyptians that we know of, the home of the Muslim Brotherhood.
In the case of Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror.
Uh 22,000 from Russia are number one geopolitical foe, the uh the communist Chinese, 22,187 that we know of.
Now, what are the odds that we have terror cells in this country because of Joe Biden's wide open borders?
Uh I I'd say a hundred percent.
I I hope and pray that I'm wrong.
I hope and pray that nothing ever happens.
But I I don't think everybody from some of these countries that hate us uh come here with the best intention.
Anyway, Kari Lake is with us.
She's running for Senate in the great state of Arizona, also a border state.
Uh first your reaction to all that.
We don't have a border anymore.
Thanks for having me on, Sean.
We don't we don't have a border.
I mean, the border is is a joke.
Uh they call it porous.
It's beyond porous, it's wide open.
I just saw a video today.
A journalist was down on the border, and where President Trump's wall is still, you know, is standing.
There were a bunch of cartel members with heavy equipment taking it down, literally taking down part portions of the border wall, and nobody's there from our side.
Our military isn't there.
Our uh border patrol, they're too busy processing people.
And literally, they were laughing at the reporter, just laughing, going, Yeah, we're in charge of the border.
An invasion on the border is an act of war, and our government's failing to do anything about it.
People of this state can't believe what's happening.
I took a group of mothers down to the border because in our our mom's coalition for our our Senate run, we talk oftentimes about the struggles that families are having, and these moms who are running, you know, their families helping to keep the kids in school and pack their lunch and check their homework, are wondering and protect their families, are wondering why our government's not protecting our border.
And so we went down and watched as they processed hundreds of people, put them on buses, sent them to airports to fly off, they get a free airline ticket, they get a free phone, they get free food, free clothes, a free health checkup, and then they end up in a hotel in a city near you with free housing.
Meanwhile, families are struggling.
This can't go on much longer.
I even had the Democrat mayor of Nogales, Arizona.
He's supporting my border plan because he said the Democrats have created this problem, and it's going to it's going to take our city down with it because they're they're losing funding down there in New Gallus.
This is the city where all of these these people coming across illegal thousands and thousands and thousands every week.
They go there to get processed and put on a bus to leave and go to a another city or an airport.
And that funding is going to end, and that means these people are going to be just roaming around this small town of 22,500.
And these aren't people who even speak Spanish or English.
They speak all kinds of different languages.
They're from Africa, they're from Asia, they're from China.
And the the city is the small town of Nogales is very concerned about what's going to happen when all of a sudden hundreds of people each day are just spilling out into that tiny community.
Something's so let's talk about your race, obviously, is going to be really crucial.
Uh Arizona, you have to say is has now kind of been been a purple state, if that's fair.
Um, and you're going up against Kristen Cinema.
What is her position on the border?
Because doesn't she vote with uh Joe Biden over 95% of the time?
You know, it's it's interesting to ask, you know, she became an independent about a year ago.
And since she became an independent, she's voted with Joe Biden 100% of the time.
She's voted with Joe Biden more often than even Chuck Schumer or Bernie Sanders.
So she's trying to fool the people of Arizona into thinking she's independent.
I'm actually literally looking at her voting record on the border.
She voted against President Trump's um plans to build the wall on on numerous occasions.
She supports voting rights to illegal immigrants.
So all these people you see pouring across the border, she's for giving them voting rights.
She's voted that way in the past, and nothing says she wouldn't vote that way in the future.
She doesn't believe a wall is effective.
Well, if the wall's not effective, then Joe Biden wouldn't have had to send his people down there to weld it open in near Lukeville, Arizona.
And she's also voted to cut salaries for immigration and customs enforcement.
If we start cutting the salaries of these people, border patrol, ICE, they're already demoralized because of Joe Biden.
We're going to start seeing people just walk off the job.
And we need to actually, I believe, give them bonuses and help them do the job that they want to do, which is protecting our border and not just processing people to come over and invade our country.
Well, you know, Mayorchis was down by the border yesterday, meeting with the border patrol agents that were on horseback that were accused of whipping illegal immigrants, uh, which they were found not to be guilty of.
Uh but of course there was a rush to judgment at the time.
He wouldn't even apologize to them.
Kari Lake, I mean, how do you not apologize when you were so wrong and there were so many people that were explaining to you uh what it what it was, the maneuvers they were making, and it was not to whip any illegal immigrant at all.
But yet they went with that narrative, they raced the judgment, they demonized these guys, and they don't even get an apology.
I'm not surprised.
I mean, in my opinion, Mayorcus should be impeached and and maybe even tried for allowing this to happen, allowing this to happen to our country.
You know, the the people coming here illegally, I I told you what, they're getting treated better than many Americans.
Uh they get a free cell phone, they get a free airline ticket, they go to the city they want, they get jobs, they get uh, you know, if we keep a voting Democrats in, they're gonna have voting rights.
And so we've got to put our foot down and start electing people who are gonna take the job seriously.
You know I'm a big fan of President Trump.
I worked as a journalist here in Arizona for almost thirty years, twenty-seven years.
By the way, his policies work, stay in Mexico work, building a wall worked.
Yep.
And during the time, you know, we'd seen a lot of politicians come and go and talk about the border.
He was the first guy that did something about it and secured the border.
And it's really simple.
We just need to go back to those policies.
And for starters, let's build the wall.
I mean, so many politicians, and a few of them with ours behind their names, sadly, but mainly the Democrats were pushing against President Trump building that wall.
And it was really, you know, less than $10 billion needed to do the job.
And they were fighting him on that.
And then we watch as they're sending, you know, nearly $200 billion over to Ukraine, but they don't want to protect our own border.
We got to get our priorities straight.
We won't have a country much longer if we don't protect the border.
And I've got a 10-point plan on my website, Carrie Lake.com, and it will secure our border starting on day one.
All right, quick break more with Senate candidate, Republican Senate candidate Carrie Lake, uh from the great state of Arizona on the other side.
Uh, then we will get to your calls, and Joe Concha will analyze uh Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis at the top of the hour as we continue.
Continue now with Republican Senate candidate from Arizona, uh Carrie Lake is with us.
A lot of Democrats are now even beginning to speak out, including uh the uh Senator from Arizona, Mark Kelly called the a chaos, a complete mess.
Uh the mayor of New York, uh Eric Adams said, quote, it will destroy New York City, uh, the Joe Biden illegal immigration issue.
Uh the governor of Illinois, Pritzker saying it created an untenable situation.
Uh the Democratic governor of Massachusetts said a federal crisis of inaction.
I think Democrats are now realizing this is their big issue if they don't get their act together, but I see no movement at all in it to make a change in policy.
The only way that's going to happen is if we get a new president.
Absolutely.
And well, we know the tricks they play.
They're saying that now, surprise, surprise, we're within a year of the election, and that's when they come around and go, oh boy, we're in trouble.
The people don't like our policies.
But they've never done anything to prove that once they get re-elected or elected that they'll do anything about it.
And so we need to vote these people out.
You know, as a mom, one of the statistics that has given me uh it just keeps me up at night.
I cringe to think of what's happened is that they've lost track of about a hundred thousand children who've come across illegally.
You know, President Trump was really good.
He he separated them out from the adults they came over with and did DNA testing to make sure that they truly were related, because he didn't want these children sex trafficked or um, you know, who knows, child labor, whatever, whatever nightmare they end up in.
And under Joe Biden's administration, Mayorcus and the rubber stamp from Kirsten Cinema and you know Ruben Gallego here in Arizona, hundred thousand kids are missing.
Where are they?
What kind of hell are they living in?
This is just a compl chaos is a great word for it, but it was, in my opinion, planned chaos because in the first hour of taking office, Joe Biden peeled back an incredibly effective border policy and invited the world to pour in.
He said they should come.
They should come.
We've I've played the cut a million times.
Uh he said that in the Democratic debate.
Well, uh, Carrie Lake, by the way, your website you said is CarrieLake.com.
Uh, people want to see your plan.
And I would just urge people to take a look at it.
And and people must understand this Senate race is going to be critical if the Republicans have any chance of taking back the Senate.
Anyway, Kari Lake, I'm sure we'll talk to you a lot between now and then.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Thanks, Sean.
This is a seat we can pick up, and we need everyone's support.
Thank you so much.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
I'm Carol Markovich.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media, and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down a verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why.
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
▲
Export Selection