Jay Sekulow and team take over the microphone today and talk about the legal reasoning behind why the January 6th protests could not be called "insurrection" for President Trump. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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| Hey everybody, this is Jay Sekulo sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity. | |
| In fact, we have the entire Seculo team here today. | |
| So I'm gonna let everybody introduce themselves. | |
| Jordan Seculos here, executive director of the ACLJ. | |
| That was Logan Secular, Director of Media Operations here. | |
| So you got the whole Secular team here. | |
| Hey, folks, we want to get right into it because there is a lot of news breaking right now, and uh we appreciate Sean letting us uh sit in for him uh today. | |
| Let me start with this. | |
| The Michigan uh Supreme Court just issued a decision very significant because there's been this attempt, as as you all know, to remove the former president from ballots. | |
| It started first in Colorado, and then it's been in, I think how many have we handled now, Jordan? | |
| I think a dozen cases. | |
| Yes, I mean we we've uh wanted Colorado, that's on appeal. | |
| We've wanted Michigan, uh now the Oklahoma, Minnesota, Oklahoma, where you were intervened in pity litigation of West Virginia, Virginia, and Wyoming. | |
| And in this Michigan uh case, uh very important that not only do we represent uh uh Michigan's GOP, but 14 other state GOPs. | |
| Oklahoma's Colorado's West Virginia's Kansas, Wyoming's North Dakota's Wisconsin, Delaware's Georgia, Nebraska, Maine, Idaho, Rhode Island, and Ohio, and that Michigan, it's their court of appeals, but that is their top court said President Trump, he's on the ballot. | |
| So this is a a move, part of a bigger move. | |
| I mean, if it you have to look at what's going on in these state court cases where they're trying to use the 14th Amendment, Section 3, which is called the disqualification clause. | |
| It's the insurrection clause. | |
| And of course, Trump, the former president was never charged with insurrection, and as I'm sure a lot of you know, and if you don't, uh Jordan and I represented the former president for four years during the presidency, handled uh the impeachment cases, handled the the Mueller probe. | |
| So we've been intimately involved in this, and we've handled now the cases that Jordan went through on the state attempts. | |
| At the same time, you've got the Supreme Court of the United States has taken direct action uh in two cases involving the former president. | |
| One uh involving, and I don't think this is necessarily a good sign for Jack Smith, and that is the the the special counsel, who I know only from his work at the International Criminal Court in the Hague, where we've represented the interests of the United States and Israel before. | |
| What's interesting there is the Supreme Court took a case involving the insurrection charge on the January 6th activities that took place on Capitol Hill. | |
| And it was the reason I think they took it was there was a dissent by Judge Castus, who was a former deputy chief counsel of the at the White House Council under President Trump, got appointed to the Court of Appeals. | |
| Somebody I I know very well, very good lawyer, very very good judge, wrote a very noteworthy, I would say, dissent, talking about not saying with the activities of what took place on Capitol Hill that day were right, but saying the way the courts interpreted the criminal code section, it encompassed all this First Amendment activity. | |
| The right to petition your government for redress of grievances, the freedom of association, The freedom of speech. | |
| So he said it was overbroad. | |
| And the Supreme Court, shocking. | |
| I was surprised. | |
| I'll be honest. | |
| I I was surprised they did it. | |
| The Supreme Court of the United States has taken that case. | |
| At the same time, Jack Smith, the special counsel, asked for expedited review of the claim of presidential immunity that the president's now, his current lawyers have asserted with regard to the cases that are pending, saying that charging him with a crime for actions he took as president would violate Article II and presidential immunity. | |
| We argued that at the Supreme Court of the United States as well. | |
| You got to remember this charge that the Supreme Court is looking at is the main real action charge on January 6th. | |
| Is it's close as Jack Smith would get to insurrection. | |
| It was again impeding an official government action. | |
| And uh these dissenting judges were saying, listen, I mean, we have a right, you know, to protest. | |
| We have a First Amendment in our country. | |
| We better be very careful uh about 20-year prison sentences when we're going to say that something impedes a government's action and that you're gonna go to jail for 20 years when we are a country that you know believes in the first amendment, believes in the right to protest, and uh again, even civil disobedience to some extent uh that doesn't rise to the level of 20-year criminality. | |
| Yep. | |
| I was gonna ask you. | |
| And if he drops that, that's the biggest charge he made against President Trump by far. | |
| I think it all related to January 6th. | |
| I think it crumbles at that point. | |
| I mean, I think that these things, a lot of them crumble anyways, but I think that would crumble it. | |
| Let me ask you this, Logan, because Logan heads up our media here at the ACLJ. | |
| They the media is fixed on all of these cases. | |
| Anything you say, you I mean, you you hosted our radio broadcast, and then you said you started the opening with president the former president, and it just like Yeah, of course, that's what a lot of attention goes to. | |
| For good or bad, I guess there's people who are who would watch it because they sort of hate watch, but the mass majority of people are watching it because they want to see justice be served in some ways uh in support of having President Trump on the ballot, really not even just having President Trump on the ballot, but having the ability and the option to exercise who you'd like to vote for uh in any given election. | |
| And I think that's something that we've had that issue with Democrats before, too. | |
| Where you know they don't see things both ways. | |
| They don't see how you can uh you know lower the bar for impeachment and how that could end up biting you back, and now they're seeing what what the fruits of their labor are. | |
| You know, it's interesting though, at the same time, that when you've got the Supreme Court poised, in the one case, they're they haven't decided they're gonna take it yet on the um the actual charge of the interfering with Congress. | |
| They said they will expedite, no, excuse me, the presidential immunity, the interfering with Congress they did take. | |
| The presidental immunity claim, I argued a similar claim to the Supreme Court of the United States as related to a subpoena that uh Syvance, that was the then DA in Manhattan, that's the predicate predecessor to the current uh Alvin Bragg. | |
| And in that case, the court was really closely divided on the level of scrutiny was four five. | |
| We wanted heightened scrutiny. | |
| Four justices said yes, heightened scrutiny, five said no. | |
| Two months later, Amy Comey Barrett's on the court, and it would have been five four the other way. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So it's very to me, it's very interesting to see. | |
| I think the court may well uh when they take this, say that you cannot sue a president, whether it's Trump, Biden, Clinton, Bush, whoever, for official actions they took when they were president, or else every president when they leave office is subject to every civil lawsuit by anybody who disagrees with what they did. | |
| Well, then we'd get used to a thing where they would all start self-pardoning themselves. | |
| They they'd self-pardon because for they that would cover all these federal charges, and so then that would take out the DOJ ability, but they really shouldn't have to do that. | |
| If you feel like they have committed these acts, that is why we have impeachment. | |
| And you know, I think that when we look at impeachment, and listen, the Republicans are doing kind of the same thing right now that Democrats did. | |
| They they voted to open an impeachment inquiry, and now they're going home for three weeks. | |
| Right. | |
| I always think what does that tell you? | |
| It always tells me this is a getting back at Joe Biden at the Democrats for what they did to Donald Trump, dragging his name through the mud twice. | |
| They probably, you know what, he deserves it because of what they did to Donald Trump. | |
| All the, you know, Russia, Russia lying from Adam Schiff, and then they had to switch to Ukraine and a phone call from a let's be honest, compromise guy who was working at the NSC who was Ukrainian American who didn't like Donald Trump's policy towards Ukraine because he was trying to prevent more military action from Russia invading Ukraine since Obama allowed Russia to Invade Crimea and take that over. | |
| Remember that happened? | |
| Again, the only time that Russia has invaded Ukraine in the last few years has been under the Biden administration and under the Obama administration. | |
| They didn't take any new land on Ukraine under the Trump administration, but yet they impeached him because he got too close to the Bidens. | |
| Right. | |
| And all the firings of the of the prosecutor and Boris mud. | |
| Now we know all of that's very real. | |
| I think so again, they deserve a lot of this because they cheapened impeachment. | |
| And they did the same thing, Dad. | |
| They rushed to impeach and then they went home for three weeks. | |
| It was the same thing. | |
| Remember, she issued the articles and then never sent them over to the United States Senate for exactly three weeks. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Not until January 5th. | |
| And then you wonder you say, is it impeachment because it's so bad that they should literally be working on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. | |
| To protect the country. | |
| To protect the country. | |
| That's what impeachments really do. | |
| The statements they made were like, well, I mean, it's we're not going to skip Christmas. | |
| I mean, it was sort of a specific. | |
| But that's because it's been cheapened. | |
| And it was cheapened by Adam Schiff, and it was cheapened by the House Democrats who brought an impeachment after the after President Trump was no longer president of the United States, an impeachment trial that they tried in front of the U.S. Senate without the Chief Justice of the United States. | |
| Which was I said the chief justice not there, it wasn't an impeachment. | |
| I mean, Jamie Braskin, constitutional scholar, Democrat, he thought that was gonna lead to anything when when the the the Supreme Court chief justice wouldn't even uh oversee it, telling you right away that he did not. | |
| I mean, that just is very telling that he didn't agree with uh Raskins' view of the Constitution. | |
| You can't do this after the fact. | |
| So the Constitution is clear. | |
| You think the president's done something wrong while he's president, Congress, you should act. | |
| You can do it under impeachment. | |
| That's all you can do, actually. | |
| After the fact, though. | |
| Years later, this is this is uh political law fair and it's disgusting. | |
| I do think Joe Biden, in a sense, deserves it because he was part of the group encouraging this against Donald Trump. | |
| So you know what? | |
| Drag him through it too. | |
| Drag his white house counsel, make their life like they made our lives. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, we were it's not fun. | |
| No, we were listening because now they got full subpoena power. | |
| Yeah, so this is I mean, we had this. | |
| I mean, we Jordan and I are giving us the from personal perspective. | |
| By the way, Joe Biden with full subpoena power says if you don't comply, you go to jail. | |
| Right. | |
| So any of those White House staff, I'm just gonna be quote, I'd be quoting Joe Biden if I was those members of Congress. | |
| And if they don't comply, I I guess they should be arrested and go to jail. | |
| So here's the this is the world we've got right now coming into, you know, with 10 days before Christmas. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| And I think that you see those statements, it is that bit like I said, they've trivialized it, but do they deserve it? | |
| I think that's gonna be a discussion that's gonna happen now happen about a lot of topics, which is they put President Trump through so much stuff. | |
| When you've put someone through that amount of scrutiny, and like I said, and it's team through that, is it, you know, do you do you turn the other cheek or do you throw it right back in their face? | |
| Well, look, I mean, here's the thing. | |
| When we litigated this and we did litigate all these issues, we litigated the immunity issues, we litigated the issues of subpoena power and all of this and relevancy and can the Congress subpoena your kids, which they did. | |
| I mean, and so it's kind of what's happening there is happening again. | |
| The problem, this is now becoming the political norm. | |
| But I think self-induced. | |
| When Adam Schiff stood up and said all that stuff about I've got all the the info on Russia, I've got it, it is crystal clear. | |
| Transcript. | |
| Break transcript. | |
| I mean I mentioned that at the floor of the United States Senate when I was defending the former president. | |
| I mentioned it I I quoted his fake conversation he had, but they can't resist to overshoot every single time. | |
| No. | |
| That's where Republicans need to be careful. | |
| Is uh, you know, if you're gonna do this, do it in a way that makes the Democrats look that that that much more foolish. | |
| So if you're gonna open the inquiry, which doesn't mean you found that he should be impeached yet, really get facts and evidence that would lead uh American people to understand why you would actually vote to impeach and remove this president. | |
| Or say, you know what, we can't get enough information, but you're gonna have to subpoena the people, and I think they're gonna fight all those subpoenas, and you're gonna have to then quote them back, their DOJ back and all their positions back and say, well, your position has long been you don't comply, you go to jail. | |
| Let me give you a perfect example though of uh the the the really the the kind of situation you're in. | |
| So Hunter Biden is gonna be subpoenaed now with full subpoena power, right? | |
| Right. | |
| Now his lawyer is very good, Abby Lulf. | |
| Very smart guy, friend of mine, very good lawyer. | |
| I'd say one of the top five criminal defense lawyers in the United States. | |
| He's gonna probably I would have him cert the Fifth Amendment. | |
| I don't know what Abby's gonna do, but that's what I would do. | |
| If you were a defense lawyer, that's what you would do. | |
| The question is if he does not comply with the subpoena, is the Department of Justice under Merrick Garland going to prosecute the failure to appear when you doubt it. | |
| And you remember we have to remind everybody that. | |
| Though Joe Biden said it's criminal and you should be prosecuted, go to jail. | |
| It is not Congress that gets to decide that. | |
| They can only refer that, they can hold attempt, which they say they will with Hunter Biden, but then it gets referred to DOJ, and DOJ can decide not to do anything. | |
| So if you're just joining us, this is Jay Seculo, Jordan Secular Logan Seculo, and we are uh pleased to be hosting for our friend Sean Hannity. | |
| We head up the American Center for Law and Justice, and we talk about a lot of issues today. | |
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| So we know what those uh White House counsel lawyers are thinking right now. | |
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| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. | |
| It's almost a dirty word. | |
| One that connotes conspiracy theory. | |
| Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? | |
| Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. | |
| We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. | |
| You put two and two together. | |
| Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? | |
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| We talked about in the first uh segment of the broadcast some of the major cases that are going on right now, and we're involved in them. | |
| A lot of them focusing on the former president. | |
| Jordan and I represented the former president while while he was president in the Russia Mueller investigation as well as in the impeachment. | |
| And for those of you that um don't know, the American Center for Law and Justice organization is a legal defense group uh and multimedia operation that has done cases literally all over the globe. | |
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| At 9 p.m., do you know where your president is? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yep, he's sound asleep in his bed with not a care in the world. | |
| Must be nice, Joe. | |
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| We had mentioned just briefly before we took the uh last break and last segment uh that we've done something very different at the ACLJ this year and produced for the first time a full length. | |
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| Multiple appearances. | |
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| Millions of you have watched the trailer, so many of you have supported it, and uh, we are really trying to make this the number one Christmas movie of the year because it's not only hilarious and heartwarming, it's also sending a message to Hollywood that we're not gonna put up with the content they're putting in front of your families. | |
| So with this, like we said, it's safe for everybody to watch, but also is packed with our messages and the messages that this audience is gonna care about. | |
| I'm I don't want to give away like key lines, okay? | |
| So don't if I'm if I'm getting into the danger terror, but it it deals a lot with cancel culture. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Deals a lot with the military. | |
| Uh deals there's a faith component to it. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And um at the same time, it's extremely uplifting. | |
| And what's missing in Hollywood right now to me is being able to address an issue like cancel culture from our perspective. | |
| From our perspective, it's sort of a satirical nature. | |
| You know, the one of the main characters is a big Hollywood celebrity who named Mason Stone, who gets canceled because he goes on a uh video message saying on online on social media, makes a post and says, God bless America, may he protect our troops. | |
| Well, he's on a hunting trip. | |
| And what happens is the you know, the social media activist world freak out, including uh starring Victoria Jackson who plays a hysterical sort of libs of TikTok style angry person who is just great in it, and with that, his toys, because he's a big Hollywood action star, get pulled from the shelves. | |
| And when they get pulled from the shelves, what happens to them? | |
| They are don't give away the whole movie. | |
| No, I can tell you this is the concept of the movie. | |
| The reason it's called Jingle Smells is then on the other side, there is a war veteran who just came back from the Afghanistan, which are all following some hard times, played by Ben Davies, and he uh has to get a job after some stint in and out of jail with uh some his dad's old army buddies who are garbage men in the area, and with that, they get assigned to get these toys and to destroy them. | |
| And you can imagine what these guys have good heart decide to do. | |
| And it cut down and becomes a Santa Claus slash Robin Hood style adventure, very fun, and again, touches on a lot of the topics are important here. | |
| Uh and not in a way that's preachy, in a way that will open up discussion if you have sort of uh, you know, maybe middle school age kids, so they may ask you some questions. | |
| Which is good. | |
| And if you have little Kids, they're gonna love it. | |
| They're gonna love it. | |
| It may f the message, the political side of it or the social commentary may go over their heads, and that's okay. | |
| Uh, because really at the end of the day, it's just a really great movie. | |
| And we decided to, one of the main things we decided was we got an option. | |
| Uh, and look, I'm very thankful for these people who came and said, hey, we'd love to give you guys a theatrical run. | |
| And we thought about it really long and hard, because obviously, as a filmmaker and and someone executive producer of this, one of the co-writers of this movie, uh, and really was you know leaning the charge. | |
| We had a great director and a great DP who who really uh did a great job as well, but you know, we were really focused on how we're gonna get this to market. | |
| And they came to us and said we want to put this in theaters. | |
| And that same week I took my kids to see uh a movie, and between me and my wife, our kids, and just the food, the popcorn drinks, ICs, you know, all that stuff, end up being close to $200. | |
| It's unreal. | |
| And I thought, I can't justify this. | |
| I can't currently justify this. | |
| For a different movie, maybe down the road, but for Jingle Smells, a big Christmas comedy, we couldn't do it. | |
| So we decided to release it at an introductory rate. | |
| It is available right now, though, on a Christmas sale on Voodoo and Rumble, both at $14.99 to buy it. | |
| You can do that right now. | |
| Obviously, Rumble is incredible. | |
| They are the free speech platform. | |
| It's awesome. | |
| They were the first feature film they've ever released that wasn't a documentary. | |
| Uh, but then obviously there's Voodoo as well, which Voodoo is a really big mainstream platform, and it shows you there are still mainstream platforms that will put up movies like ours, and that's pretty cool. | |
| And then DVD is also available on our website. | |
| You know, what's also interesting about this when you'd say the kind of the thematic is the cancel culture. | |
| There was a case, and I think it was Ohio this week where a fire department moved its nativity scene, which had been there for 15 years, and they moved it, and and they it's been resolved now, but they moved it just because they got a letter from the Freedom from Religion Foundation talking about cancel culture. | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| Then they contacted us to say, did we actually have to move this? | |
| And now there's a question about they moved it without contacting us first. | |
| So it makes a little back. | |
| It's now back. | |
| They moved to the back to the fire station. | |
| So Freedom from Religion Foundation, if they are going to file a lawsuit, uh, again, we are going to be ready to represent the town if they want to be represented at no cost to them. | |
| They're gonna have meetings. | |
| We have a great contact who is very close to the mayor there. | |
| The people are very supportive of keeping this uh nativity scene outside the firehouse, but the big issue with all of these cases is that you've got to convince the city council that the ACLJ is for real. | |
| We're gonna represent you at no cost. | |
| And they're just not used to dealing with attorneys that tell them that. | |
| Yeah, and that's because of people like you, many of you have joined from Sean's broadcast, which we really appreciate uh at ACLJ.org. | |
| And as we said, we're in a faith in Freedom Drive, which means any amount you donate is matched at $10.50, whatever it is, and it's tax deductible. | |
| So we appreciate that. | |
| And we we expanded out when we went into the movie realm, and that was something new we did. | |
| Yeah, we're always trying to figure out how to get our message out there. | |
| And look, the we've gotten some really incredible feedback from people who have watched this movie. | |
| People are very pleased with it. | |
| We're getting great reviews from that. | |
| And of course, we're getting bad reviews from the people that you'd expect. | |
| But you're kind of glad about that. | |
| But you know, exactly. | |
| They're not watching this movie. | |
| You're just triggering them, and that's pretty fun. | |
| Now, with that being said, I'm gonna ask a couple things of this audience. | |
| Number one, I'm gonna ask you first to please obviously go buy and and rent this. | |
| Tell me where they need to do it. | |
| Jingle smells dot movie. | |
| Uh, portions of the proceeds go back to the ACLJ to support all of us, honestly. | |
| Uh, everyone you've heard on this broadcast, it really does matter. | |
| So please do that. | |
| I'm also gonna ask you, because we've noticed this. | |
| You know, a platform like Rumble is not available everywhere around the world. | |
| There are a lot of countries that have banned Rumble for being a free speech platform. | |
| We have seen these sort of one-star negative review bombs come in. | |
| Guess what? | |
| Not from America. | |
| And where can you only see the movie right now? | |
| The United States of America. | |
| But these are people from England who are from England who are upset about the fact that we're on Rumble, really is what it is. | |
| And the and they're upset with the fact that Sean Hannity's name is attached to it and that our names are attached to it. | |
| So I'm gonna ask you this. | |
| The only place right now to review the movie is either through IMDB and maybe Rotten Tomatoes, but I believe I am DB, and we are seeing that review bomb happening on there. | |
| I don't even really care. | |
| It doesn't bother me at all. | |
| But what I can say is if if you like this movie, go on there and give it a 10-star review. | |
| If you don't like it, just don't. | |
| But go on there and give it a 10 star, write us a nice review because we've seen this. | |
| Because the message is getting out there, and because Hollywood is scared of movies like ours. | |
| They're scared. | |
| Why are they? | |
| Well, for a couple reasons. | |
| One, we did this completely independently. | |
| We did this uh away from their system completely. | |
| So when you're able to do that, you're able to break away. | |
| That's not good for them. | |
| They don't like the fact that you can make some waves from doing something independently and on your own, uh, doing a deal with Rumble, doing a deal with with companies that don't have the red tape, or you know, the imagined times I've had times I've released a film and they end up charging you tens of thousands of dollars for ridiculous fees. | |
| I've always said this, which is, you know, you have a movie like an Indiana Jones that came out this summer. | |
| The movie made $350 million at the box office and it lost money. | |
| Yeah, no, I mean another one of the big social conservative movies did the same thing now, according to their uh star. | |
| It was that it came out and not a lot. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's just the truth. | |
| There's a lot of red tape that goes on in Hollywood. | |
| What we were able to do with this movie, and hopefully moving forward is show that you can kind of circumvent that. | |
| Obviously, if you buy it through Rumble or you buy it through Voodoo or through the DVD, of course, is that of course going to go to the people providing it as it should. | |
| But you don't have to do all of this craziness. | |
| Um, and you certainly don't have to put up with we got to produce the movie we wanted with the you know, with the dialogue we wanted, no one told us what we could edit or what we had to do or had to say or who to cast. | |
| We were able to put together this great movie, and it was during a lot of the Hollywood strikes uh because a lot of people wanted to work. | |
| I mean, a lot, our crew, you know, Daniel Lesco, our director and all this, the lot of crew came from the fact that all of a sudden there was no work in the whole industry. | |
| People always think about the stars and they think about the studios, but they don't think about the what they call it, the below the line workers, the guys who are working craft service or camera or or you know, drivers and little things that you don't think of but or play such a huge part in making these movies. | |
| Those are the people that really hurt during the strikes. | |
| So we were able to come in, make this movie, get it out in in record time, and tell a story that is amazing and is is beautiful, and all wrapped in a big kids or family Christmas comedy that your kids can watch, your grandkids can watch. | |
| And again, every time you make that purchase, it's not just about uh telling us they're watching a great movie. | |
| It is about sending a message to Hollywood that this can be the number one Christmas movie in the country, and that would be a wild thing to do. | |
| And not produced by Hollywood. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Uh Sean Hannity's the executive producer is actually in the first scene. | |
| He is, he's the first voice you hear. | |
| And one of the last. | |
| Yes, uh, yeah, he kind of bookens it. | |
| And he's also somewhat in the middle as well. | |
| So you have him in there quite a few times. | |
| Um make a band appearance. | |
| Jay Secular Band is in Jordan's in it, I'm in it. | |
| Uh, our whole families are in it. | |
| Uh, as well as, again, that also cast as well as just incredible actors who you may not know their names, but they are wanting to work, there are people that were willing to work. | |
| It was a very exciting time to make this movie, and we hope it becomes a Christmas classic you watch year in year. | |
| And if you buy it, by the way, yes, on Rumble. | |
| You own it on Voodoo. | |
| Yeah, you uh have access to the stream for as long as a one-time rental thing. | |
| No, no, there is on voodoo a rental option. | |
| Uh, but for Rumble, which we encourage you to do, Rumble and Voodoo. | |
| You can also make a purchase. | |
| When you do that, I know even Rumble says PPV, like pay-per-view, that's just what they call their service, but it's actually not per view. | |
| It is in perpetuity. | |
| You have it as long as we have it up there, it's available. | |
| So you spend the right now, the discounted Christmas rate was 1999. | |
| We've dropped it down to 1499 for the week leading into Christmas, and it is available right now. | |
| DVDs are available also, still for Christmas, and John Schneider will talk about those, and he'll even sign them for you if you want. | |
| There you go. | |
| So it's jingles.com.movie. | |
| This resources are going back to the ACLJ. | |
| Yeah. | |
| People hear movie and they think big production. | |
| Is this really going to benefit what I care about the ACLJ? | |
| And Logan, it absolutely does. | |
| Now the movie that tells the story of like an ACLJ situation. | |
| But then the actual dollars that come in, those dollars are gonna primarily come into the American Center for Law and Justice. | |
| Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm watching the numbers go up right now, and we're able to see it right now. | |
| I mean, over 950,000 of you have watched the trailer on Rumble, which is amazing. | |
| That's amazing people. | |
| And then so many more have watched it on all the other platforms and Sean's platforms as well. | |
| And I have to thank Sean and really uh Linda and that entire team who've put together such an amazing uh plan. | |
| So I I want to thank all of them as this movie rolls out. | |
| Obviously, it's 10 days till Christmas. | |
| So you got 10 days to really, I mean, you can watch as long as you will look. | |
| People watch Christmas movies all year long. | |
| There are 24-hour Christmas networks. | |
| And guess what? | |
| Hollywood is taking notice. | |
| We're already getting offers for some of those, you know, networks and streamers for future years because they are seeing what can be done outside of the Hollywood system. | |
| Jingle smells dot movie. | |
| Folks, I want to encourage you to go and get that movie again. | |
| It's available on Rumble. | |
| You'll see it on Voodoo, also uh DVD. | |
| We really encourage you to do it. | |
| Coming back from the break, we're going to talk about some legislation that's going on that you're going to want to know about back in a moment. | |
| Firing torpedo of truth at a wall of lies. | |
| This is the Sean Hannity Show. | |
| Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hannity program. | |
| By the way, this bumper music you're hearing is uh done by my band. | |
| And uh we appreciate it. | |
| By the way, end of the year there'll be a concert on uh New Year's Eve. | |
| Just go to uh ACLJ on Facebook Rumble, our preferred provider. | |
| Uh YouTube too, right, Logan? | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah, YouTube also. | |
| Yep. | |
| All right. | |
| We started the program, and I want to kind of reset it, what we said in the first hour. | |
| So there's a lot of activity at the Supreme Court of the United States right now as it relates to the former president. | |
| Two cases, one of which is a total was surprising they took, which was uh emanating out of January 6th. | |
| It's also the basis upon which that whole indictment rests. | |
| Yeah, it's the obstructing an official procedure. | |
| And that takes with it 20 years in prison. | |
| And so what these uh dissenters have looked at as the case moved on is how this could squelch the ability to protest, freedom of speech, freedom of a sibly that we have in the U.S. Constitution, because who is really gonna be the arbiter over when does it cross the line? | |
| Or are we just gonna say we know it when it does? | |
| Because I don't love those staters either, Dad. | |
| But then the world changes. | |
| And words that were obseded 20 years ago are gonna become normal now, or words that aren't even used anymore because they've they were so obseded, so uh disgusting and offensive the way they described your group. | |
| So again, what I think is is unique is that remember, this is the same prosecutor who brought all the charges against Bob McDonald, tried to ruin his life, and at the U.S. Supreme Court, Bob McDonald beat Jack Smith. | |
| Nine to zero. | |
| Let me tell you who else beat Jack Smith. | |
| So it's Republicans and Democrats, John Edwards. | |
| He won. | |
| So you you look at Bob Menendez, he won. | |
| So Jack Smith, the prosecutor, tends to overcharge. | |
| It's just the way he does things. | |
| And the ACLJ is involved in these cases. | |
| We argued the predecessor cases at the Supreme Court of the United States before. | |
| So this is not our first rodeo on these cases. | |
| So we encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ. | |
| Great day for you to join the ACLJ. | |
| Just go to ACLJ.org. | |
| Coming up, we're gonna be talking about some additional legislative moves. | |
| We're being joined by our friend and colleague Rick Grinnell. | |
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