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Of course, that is the song Simple Man.
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Great to have you back.
I want to start with Joe Biden, your president today, Bill.
He's admitting that he's running for president because Trump is.
I expect so, but look, he is running and I just, I have to run.
If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running, but we can't let him win for the sake of the country.
Now, later, the president spoke to reporters, and that's what he said there.
But he said he wouldn't be running but for Trump.
What do you make of that?
Is this the beginning of the end for Joe?
Is he beginning to acknowledge that maybe he wants out?
No, it's basically the theme of the Democrats whole campaign, not just for president, but for Senate and the House.
That Trump is the devil.
He's a Nazi.
And so we have to protect the American people from Trump.
That's what it is.
But Biden himself, he desperately wants to retain his position.
I think it's primarily because of his wife, Joe Biden.
I mean, they love the power.
And if you look at their daily schedules, they don't really do anything.
Today they had a little summit for Native Americans where, you know, I mean, the guy doesn't do anything.
He didn't, yesterday he went up to Boston to do a James Taylor concert to raise money.
This weekend, he's out in LA with the Fat Cat Hollywood people raising money.
I mean, he doesn't do any work.
He's not a problem solver.
It's like you have a job, you're paid in good money, and you shuttle around on Air Force One, so why give it up?
Let me ask you this.
I've been watching Biden every day.
I mean, we play his, you know, mumbling, bumbling, stumbling.
I have no idea where I am, where I should go, what I should do next, you know, event one after another.
Bill, it's been months.
I can't think of the last time that this president had a clean event where he was coherent, where he was articulate, where he seemed to know where he was or had an ability to exit stage left or stage right.
I can't think of a single moment.
It is now every single public appearance is a disaster.
So that fits into my belief, which is he is cognitively very compromised, and that is a degenerative condition, meaning it will never get better, but only get worse.
And I think we're now beginning to see the worst.
What it's like 11 months from now, I can't predict, but I doubt he's going to be even as lucid, if you want to call it that, as he is today.
Well, it certainly would debate.
So don't count on debates, presidential debates, not going to happen.
And the people who are going to vote for him don't really care whether he can run the government or not because this has been going on for a while.
You know, Hanny, I have a lot of liberal friends here living on Long Island where you live.
Frankly, they don't like you either, Bill, because they're very outspoken to me about you.
But I'm more friendly than you are.
By the way, that is a total, complete lie.
Let me throw out a challenge flag on that one because I totally disagree.
But go ahead.
So I have more friends because I'm friendly.
And they're afraid of you that you'll kick them with karate moves.
So they stay away.
But I asked my friends one very, because I'm a simple man, as you and Leonard Skinner know, one very elementary question.
Give me one thing, just one, President Biden has done to improve this country in three years.
They can't answer.
And I'm telling you the God's honest truth.
I have never gotten a cogent answer on that question.
You know why, Bill?
You can answer your own question.
Why is that?
Because he hasn't solved any problems.
Nope.
And he's made things worse for everybody, for working people.
You know, I wrote my last book.
We were speaking about books earlier and Killing the Witches, which is your massive big bestseller.
And by the way, a great holiday gift for people.
And the last book I wrote was before the 2020 election.
I had not written a book, Bill, in 10 years because I said I was done.
I didn't want to write anymore.
And I felt compelled to write it because of the times we're in, Live Free or Die, America and the World on the Brink.
Now, I'm going to say something to you that I've been saying to this audience and saying on TV.
I have never been this worried or concerned.
I'm not a big worrier about the future of our country and the state of the world.
I don't know.
I can't remember when it's been this bad.
And then when you have the director of the FBI saying, I see blinking red lights as it relates to terror everywhere, that makes me even more concerned that terrorists will strike our country next.
And by the way, 8 million illegal immigrants, I think the odds are 100%, Bill O'Reilly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, that among that 8 million unvetted people that Joe Biden, Joe Biden's illegal immigrants, there are terrorist cells that have come into this country.
One last stat and you take the floor.
Joe is allowed in 6,386 people from Afghanistan, 659 from the number one state sponsor of terror Iran, 538 from Syria, 3,153 from Egypt, 12,605 from Russia, and our number one geopolitical foe, the communist Chinese, 26,113.
Do you think I'm wrong, Bill O'Rowie?
The people who have been encountered.
The terrorists don't want to be encountered, so they slip through.
I mean, so many people slip through.
Americans are not that.
Gotaways, they're called.
Yeah.
Let me run it down.
Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, is one of the biggest phonies I've ever seen in my life.
If he were truly concerned about protecting the American people, he would have years ago said publicly, the FBI wants the border controlled.
How about the laws enforced?
Now, he has spent an awful lot of time with, he's had agents investigating tiger moms and dads at school board meetings and peaceful protesters and more traditional Catholics.
They've spent a lot of time and resources.
He even had special agents meeting weekly with big tech companies before the 2020 election, warning them that they may be a victim of misinformation campaigns and the misinformation may be about Joe and or Hunter Biden.
I don't think that's appropriate work for the FBI.
Do you, Bill?
Well, he's a phony.
Okay, so he's worried about himself.
Christopher Wray is all in for Christopher Wray.
He wants to keep his position, and that's it.
So people should know that.
That being said, the FBI is still a very effective investigative agency, and there are bureaus across the country.
I have confidence that they are on it, as the CIA is.
I wrote a book called Killing the Killers.
I documented the whole thing.
That has not fallen apart under Biden.
He hasn't improved it, but it hasn't fallen apart.
But all these people coming in, obviously they're going to be some bad ombres, to use a Spanish word, coming in here and looking to do damage.
But let me make a point that I don't think anybody's made on your program or anywhere else.
2024 is going to be one of the most important years in this country's history.
Why?
Because the progressive movement that controls 100% what Joe Biden does is now at the apex of their power.
If you don't break their power next November by electing a traditional president, doesn't have to be Trump, but it has to be not a Democrat.
If you don't break that power, then the progressives, given four more years, are going to rip apart every tradition in this country.
Right now in the Supreme Court, they are hearing a case about the wealth tax.
Everybody has heard about the wealth tax.
What that does, it would give the federal government the right to come into your house and your financial portfolio and tax you as much as they want on things that you have already paid tax on or not realized any gain.
So say you bought Apple stock and you have a gain of $300,000, but you are holding on to the stock.
The government could tax you every year on that unrealized gain.
And then when you finally sell it, it may be much lower and you actually lose money.
Do you get a refund?
And then when you finally sell it, you have to pay a capital gains tax.
So they're taxing you eight different ways.
If a Republican isn't elected president next November and continues to appoint Supreme Court justices that are traditional, because I believe this wealth tax is going down.
It'll be some.
I agree with you.
I think it's going to be a 6-3 decision.
6-3, that's probably right.
And that'll put an end to the wealth tax for the time being.
But if the progressives and the Democrats continue to amass power, it's just a matter of time before we turn into a socialist country.
Well, I hope people are paying very close attention.
That case is being widely viewed as what will be a landmark case on the issue of taxes in this country.
It's even worse than that.
Biden built in that tax to his budget.
Already.
He already built it in.
Are you planning on ever getting out of New York?
You know, if they pass the wealth tax, I will.
And I'll move wherever you move.
You just tell me where you're going.
No, we're going to Florida.
All right, quick break, right back.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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All right, we continue now with Simpleman of Bill O'Reilly, allthings O'Reilly at BillO'Reilly.com.
This is a sign that I have great courage because I'm about to let Bill O'Reilly, I'm handing him a baseball bat to smash me in the head as hard as he wants to.
Good.
Good hitter.
Thanks a lot, Bill.
I really, my head appreciate it.
But you got to get the shot in, and I'm pretty fast.
All right.
Here's the question.
I had the big debate with Governor DeSantis and Gavin Newsom.
I tried to make it a fact-based debate.
And then I had the town hall with Donald Trump last night.
What did you think of both of those?
The debate was frustrating to watch because Newsom broke the record for questions evaded.
That's true, actually.
Yeah.
It was held, I believe it was held by Hillary Clinton.
Now Newsome broke our record.
And there's nothing as a moderator you could do.
I went back in a number of times, and after you go back two or three times, there's no point.
But you can't force.
And Newsom simply, and I did this on the NoSpin news, which you can access on billorilly.com.
I just ran the clips around your queue and then Newsome evading.
I said, boom, evade, evade, evade.
And then not even acknowledge.
Not even acknowledge stats that you had full screen.
that was frustrating to watch okay as far as a debate last night trump is making a glass that was a town hall Town hall, I'm sorry.
Trump is making a tactical mistake.
And I'm leading with this on the Nospin News tonight.
You asked him up top, what about these charges of you being a fascist and going to violate the Constitution and rule as a Nazi?
This is the big thing that the Democrats are going to campaign on.
All right.
And then you said, are you going to do this?
He goes, first day I will.
Retribution.
Now, I went back.
That was the second time I asked him about that question because I didn't feel he finished his thought.
And his first answer was kind of glib, I thought.
The original question, his answer was, no, I won't treat them like they treat me, which I thought was very glib.
Then his second answer was only one day.
And then he specifically said energy independence and securing the border.
But it was lost.
So when he said, except on day one, I believe that was the quote.
That was the quote.
Okay.
That gave the media right there.
Didn't need to have any more.
That gave them their headline, which they used this morning all over the place.
Trump's a fascist, Trump's a fascist.
Okay.
Trump did that on purpose to be provocative.
That's who Trump is.
No matter how you interview him, where you interview him, he's going to be provocative.
He doesn't need to do that anymore.
He needs to try to persuade independent voters.
And he has done that to some extent because Biden is so terrible, all right, to vote for him.
He doesn't have to blow up anybody anymore.
The MAGA people are there.
They'll always be there.
All right.
That's 40%.
He needs another 15% of the people who did not vote for him last time to come over.
These people don't want chaos.
I agree with you 1,000% that he's got to appeal to independents.
It may be as few as 500 or 600,000 people in six states that determine the outcome of the 2024 election.
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Bill, always great to talk to you.
We'll talk to you next week.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
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Let me replay from yesterday, Elise Stefanik, now calling out the presidents of MIT, Penn, and Harvard.
And in the case of Harvard, it's Claudine Gay, refusing to say that calling for the genocide of the Jewish people is bullying and harassment.
I cannot believe in this politically correct day and age at all of these college universities where if you use the wrong pronoun, you're probably at risk of getting suspended or expelled.
If you say anything that is remotely racist, you will be expelled or deemed homophobic or transphobic or Islamophobic.
You're gone.
But it's acceptable on this issue.
Listen.
At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
If targeted at individuals not making public statements.
Yes or no?
Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?
I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.
But you've heard chance for Intifada.
I've heard chance, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context, when calling for the elimination of the Jewish people.
So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules?
That would be investigated as harassment, if pervasive and severe.
Ms. McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct?
Yes or no?
If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.
Yes.
I am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of Jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment?
If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.
So the answer is yes.
It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman.
It's a context-dependent decision.
That's your testimony today.
Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.
That is not bullying or harassment.
This is the easiest question to answer.
Yes, Ms. McGill.
So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?
If it is, if the speech becomes, if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.
Yes.
Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?
The speech is not harassment.
This is unacceptable, Ms. McGill.
I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
It can be harassment.
The answer is yes.
And Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
It can be, depending on the context.
What's the context?
Targeted as an individual, targeted at an individual?
It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.
Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?
Do you understand that dehumanization is part of anti-Semitism?
I will ask you one more time.
Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
Yes or no?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric.
And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?
Anti-Semitic rhetoric, when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation.
That is actionable conduct, and we do take action.
So the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard Code of Conduct, correct?
Again, it depends on the context.
It does not depend on the context.
The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign.
These are unacceptable answers across the board.
I mean, these are the heads of some of the most prestigious, the presidents of the most prestigious universities in the country.
Let me play a cud from a Jewish student describing how they don't feel safe at UPenn.
Listen to this.
My name is Ayal Yakobe, and I am a proud American studying at the University of Pennsylvania.
I love Penn.
I've wanted to attend this university since before I can remember.
I'm here because the Penn I attend today is unrecognizable from the pen I once used to know.
Penn, once renowned for groundbreaking discoveries like the mRNA vaccine, is now a chilling landscape of hatred and hostility.
Our university, revered for its pursuit of knowledge, has devolved into an arena where Jewish students tiptoe through their days, uncertain and unsafe.
The situation at Penn has escalated into a full-blown crisis, with students openly asserting their intentions to proceed with plans with or without university permission.
During COVID, strict guidelines governed everything from class attendance and graduation walks.
Yet now, when students and faculty defy policies to intimidate Jewish students, where is the same resolute enforcement?
For the past three weeks inside Houston Hall, our student center, an anti-Semitic headquarters has been erected with signs spreading Hamas propaganda.
The organizers, both Penn-affiliated and not, were initially asked to leave as they are trespassing on campus property.
Well, three weeks later, they are still sleeping there and countless Jewish students have been harassed.
Yet the anti-Semitic dormitory remains.
Clearly, both a disregard for school policies and permission to disregard them by a university unwilling to do anything.
All right, joining us now is Ezra Troy and also Talya Khan is with us and Lior Alan is with us to discuss this issue.
By the way, I will add before we get to our guests that at Columbia University, they have announced an event actually celebrating, can you believe that, celebrating the terrorism, the murder, the rape, the kidnapping, the beheadings of October 7th and the attack.
And they're hosting an event on the significance of this day, the Palestinian counteroffensive.
No, this was a terrorist attack of radical Islamists whose own charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Ezra, let me start with you and ask you, how bad is it?
Hi, Mr. Hennedty.
First of all, I just wanted to thank you so much for having me on the show.
I think you played a clip from my friend Ayal before, and I think he said it best.
We are very scared here.
There's been calls for Jewish genocide, obviously, and we saw President Liz Miguel in Congress yesterday refusing to condemn these and refusing to get people in trouble for these.
But there's also been protests all over campus.
There's been, on Sunday night, there was a riot with smoke bombs and calls for Jewish genocide, and it's pretty bad here.
It's very bad, and it's sad.
Talya, let's get your take.
What are you experiencing?
Hi, thank you for having me.
Unfortunately, I just want to echo those statements that you just heard.
On college campuses across the country, MIT included, we're experiencing a normalization of anti-Semitism.
And the MIT administration and clearly the other administrations of these top universities are refusing to act to discipline the students, the faculty, the staff, the DEI infrastructure, all of these people, all of these actors who are perpetuating anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Yeah, and I'll tell you, it's happening everywhere.
And the sad thing is it's happening in the halls of Congress, not just college university campuses.
It's happening all over Europe.
It's happening on other continents as well, like Australia, where they were chanting, gas the Jews, F the Jews.
Lior Olan, let's get your take.
Hi, thank you.
As Taria said, I'm deeply disappointed.
I'm deeply shocked.
It's something that I never thought it would happen here in the USA, not to say here at MIT, allowing for call for genocide, not condemning call for genocide, giving the legitimate to call for genocide.
And as you said, probably just because it's genocide for the Jews, it would probably won't get legitimate if it was genocide for some other minority.
Well, I mean, what was asked of these college presidents yesterday was very, very simple.
And all three of them refused to say whether, quote, calling for the genocide of Jews, which, by the way, is the equivalent of Nazi Germany, is bullying and harassment according to their codes of conduct.
What is your specific reaction to that?
Because they even go as far as to say it needs to turn to action first before they're going to condemn it.
I'm shocked in this day and age of wokeness and political correctness, Ezra.
Yeah, I mean, my friends at TIPAC, which is the Penn Island Public Affairs Committee here at Penn, recently just posted on their Instagram a list of things that you can get in trouble for at this university, which includes bringing a scooter into university buildings and the fact that President McGill is not willing to go and get people in trouble or to sanction people for calling for genocide against Jews really shows.
What if somebody on campus called for genocide and nobody listening to this program would ever want this to happen against the minority or against somebody that is a Muslim or somebody against somebody that's part of whatever group?
I don't think it would be tolerated.
I don't think it should be tolerated.
And it shouldn't be tolerated here.
Talya.
Absolutely, it wouldn't be tolerated.
I was sitting in the hearing yesterday.
I was sitting three feet away from President Gay of Harvard.
And I think what struck me the most was the smugness with which they refused to answer this very simple question.
As you said, if any other group were named besides Jews, it would be a very clear answer.
Any other minority that has historically been persecuted in this country and around the world, it just would not be acceptable.
And unfortunately, for some reason, it's different with Jews.
And again, like the Penn student was saying, if you bring a scooter into your class, you're going to get punished.
But if you claim that Jews deserve what happened on October 7th, you're not going to get punished.
And at MIT, they said that they weren't going to punish students because they feared visa issues, et cetera.
They're punting these issues, punting these disciplinary processes to committees that aren't actually doing anything.
And it's really making the atmosphere at all of our universities very toxic and hard to, it's hard to exist as a Jew on these campuses.
All right, quick break.
When we come back, we'll talk to students and how they're being treated, Jewish students on college campuses here in America.
More with Ezra Troy, Talya Khan, and Lior Alan as we continue.
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Now there's a novel idea.
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We have students at some of the top universities in the country and what Jewish students are now having to live through in light of especially what we learned yesterday, and that is the Harvard president, MIT, and UPenn president all refusing to say whether calling for genocide of Jews is bullying and harassment according to their codes of conduct.
Wow.
Can't even believe we're discussing this, but we continue with Ezra Troy, Talya Khan, and Lior Alan is with us.
Let me ask you an exit question, all three of you.
And Lior Alan, I'll start with you.
On a scale of one to 10, 10 being the most fear, when you're on your college campus, how fearful are you?
Okay, so I'm 10, and I have kids going here to the daycare.
If, as the president of MIT said, things are not harassment until it gets to actually doing something.
No, you need to stop the, if there's a war of words going on in a bar, I used to be a bartender.
Usually it's better to stop it because as it escalates, and we've seen that happen at Cooper Union and other places.
So your fear level is a 10.
Talya, what's your fear level?
My fear level is also incredibly high.
And as the president of the Israel Organization on MIT's campus, we did a poll of almost 100 of our members, and 95% said that the MIT administration has not done enough to make us feel safer, to make everybody feel safer on campus.
95%.
That should be saying something.
Ezra, what is your level of fear?
Agree.
Very, very high level of fear.
On Sunday night, there was a riot here.
I didn't want to leave my house.
It wasn't just me.
Many other Jewish students didn't want to leave their houses.
And I think that in the wake of President McGill's comments yesterday, where again, she refused to condemn people's calling for genocide against Jews.
Us Jews here don't feel safe anymore.
It's very, very scary time.
Really scary times, guys.
You deserve better.
You deserve to go to school in a safe environment.
People deserve to work in a safe environment.
You know, all HR, you know, the thousands of pages corporations have and these institutions of higher learning have can be really summed up with one page.
Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself, and treat others the way you want to be treated.
And if everybody would follow that, I think it would be a much better world.
I'm sorry you are all living through this.
Thank you for sharing your stories and you're in my prayers.
I wish you all the best as Israel too is in our prayers as they now fight for their very survival.
You know, there's moments when it's simple moral clarity and there's no moral ambiguity.
This is one of those cases.
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