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	A number of years ago, we had on this program, and he will join us here in a second, Mosab Hassan Youssev, a Palestinian author of the bestseller, Son of Hamas.
	Now, his background is that he grew up on the West Bank.
	He worked for the Israeli security and intelligence community as a double agent, and he knows the inner workings about all things Hamas and just how evil their worldview is.
	I mean, all you really need to do is just take a look at Hamas's own charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel, or look at what happened on the 7th of October, or look at the, you know, last however many years and the hundreds of thousands of rockets that Hamas has fired into, you know, neighboring border towns like Steirot, where we were.
	We were there, and the night before we got there, a kibbutz neighborhood was hit with a rocket.
	It's so difficult.
	I mean, in 10 years, 10,000 rockets have been fired into that one town.
	Imagine that.
	Imagine living with that every day.
	Anyway, before the age of 21, Mossab Hassan Youssef saw things that no one should ever see.
	He saw poverty, abuse of power.
	He saw torture.
	He saw death.
	He witnessed the behind-the-scenes dealings of top Middle Eastern leaders who made headlines around the world.
	He was trusted at the highest levels of Hamas.
	He participated in what they call antifata, and he was held captive deep inside Israel's most feared prison facility.
	And his dangerous choices and unlikely journey, you know, through all these places made him a traitor in the eyes of the people that he loves and gave him, you know, access to extraordinary secrets.
	And he wrote about it.
	And, you know, he's the, this book became a huge bestseller, The Son of Hamas.
	And anyway, we welcome back to the program, Mossab Hassan Youssef.
	Sir, welcome back to the program.
	Hi, Sean.
	Thank you for having me back.
	Let's talk about your life and your time with the group Hamas.
	And I want you to bring as much color and insight so people really understand what Israel's enemies, why something like October 7th happened, why out of Gaza, Hamas fires, you know, hundreds of thousands of rockets, almost always in a state of war, you know, why they build 300 miles as network of terror tunnels instead of infrastructure and hospitals and schools.
	Just tell us about your life growing up with them.
	Yes.
	Well, you know, growing up, I did not see the true nature of Hamas because, you know, that was my family's business.
	And we had advantages, you know, to be the son of a top Hamas leader in that culture.
	I was like a prince.
	You know, I had the protection of the family, of the father, respectability, status, money, power, fame, all that.
	So it was very hard for me to see the danger of Hamas organization.
	But as you mentioned, when I was in Israeli prison and Hamas in that prison was killing our own people, I experienced firsthand Hamas brutality.
	And when I say brutality, I mean killing, butchering, torturing in the worst possible way.
	And that was against our own people, was not against Israel.
	Long story short, this is when I started questioning the true nature of Hamas.
	And I started a journey to realize what Hamas is.
	It was very hard for me to disconnect because it meant going against the flow of my society, going against the interest of my own father, going against the interest of our tribe, basically.
	And that was the most dangerous decision I made in my life.
	Let me talk about the, first of all, you just mentioned how they treat each other.
	What was the general thought process about Israel and Jewish people?
	What were you taught as a kid?
	There is lots of hatred towards the Jewish people.
	It's not a secret.
	And from early age, that was expressed by the parents, by the mosque, by the school, on the streets.
	Here in the United States, it's considered as a hate crime.
	There, it's just part of the culture.
	To stab a Jew or to kill a Jew, to blow up a bus, it's praised in that culture.
	Is it praised, you know, this whole idea of convert or die?
	Were you taught that philosophy that the mission of radical Islamists is that they are to convert the world or kill those that won't convert?
	This type of conditioning doesn't happen just overnight.
	You know, it's a process.
	But I'm asking, was that what you were ultimately taught?
	In somehow, some way, yes.
	Now, were you led to believe, were people led to believe that if they killed the infidels or Jewish people or people that were non-Muslim, again, we're talking about radical Islamists, we're talking about the terror group Hamas.
	Were they taught that if in fact they chose martyrdom, that they would be rewarded in heaven with 72 virgins?
	Is that true?
	Yes, but it's not only about temptation.
	You know, this is really watering down, you know, the danger of such a group.
	You know, we just, They're not only tempted by a promise in the other life, you know.
	It's a lot more than that.
	There is the national dimension that first of all they consider that they are oppressed.
	So now they are victims.
	Once an individual agree to become a victim, this is a very strong motive.
	Then this motive advances when there is a religious dimension to it, you know, ideological dimension that Allah himself, you know, hated the Jewish people.
	And this is very clear in the Quran.
	And many people say, no, this is not in Islam.
	And I say, no, it is in Islam.
	You know, there was a big problem between the Prophet Muhammad and the Jewish communities of the Arab Peninsula.
	So Muhammad himself struggled against them and he killed them.
	He fought against them, many military campaigns, many raids.
	So in the Quran, you know, you find that the Jewish people were disobedient and therefore Allah punished them in the worst possible way.
	So now you bring nationalism on the top of ideological extremism, then you have personal hatred to add to the recipe.
	Then this very toxic brew, you know, would lead to a suicide bombing attack.
	So it's not as simple as, okay, you know, you take a kid and you tell him, listen, you go kill a Jew or you go kill, let's say, an American, and I promise you 72 virgins.
	You know, then he goes.
	It's a lot more complicated than that.
	It's brainwashing.
	It's a very sick conditioning and does not take place.
	You know, of course, not everybody in that culture also fall into this trap.
	Well, you know, let's go to, for example, you know, in the years leading up to this past October 7th, where 1,400 Israelis were slaughtered.
	I think the sickest part of this is many of the terrorists, the Hamas terrorists, use GoPros.
	And as part of their GoPro, you know, they wanted a chronicle.
	And a very dear friend of mine saw all of these videos and said it was the equivalent of Nazi Germany.
	That the lack of humanity was shocking.
	It shocks the conscience.
	It shocks the soul.
	So what is in the mind of the Hamas killers, the Hamas terrorists, as they are beheading even babies?
	You know, this is hatred in action.
	You know, the Hamas brutality really does not differentiate.
	And as I told you, even against the Palestinian people, they threw their rival party Fatah members from the 27th or 21st story building alive.
	This is how bad it was in 2007.
	So Hamas blew up buses, you know, indiscriminately.
	And they killed all type of people, including Americans, in the 1990s and in the 2000s, early 2000s.
	So can you imagine also a suicide bomber, you know, when they blow themselves up at a market or at the beach, even university, school, synagogues, they targeted everywhere.
	So that was also very ugly.
	So if they have this kind of mentality that someone to blow himself up and just ruin so many innocent people's lives, There is no limit for how far they can go.
	Hence, I was not, I myself wasn't surprised by their brutality and what they did in the communities surrounding Gaza.
	But the scale of their attack was much bigger than I expected.
	That was my surprise.
	But their brutality to kill all types of people, even the most innocent, like children, women, stories about rape, even they went beyond that.
	They kidnapped corpses.
	They kidnapped dead people because they think there is a value to this corpse and they can exchange it for money or for prisoners.
	They took dead people as hostages.
	There is nothing that can be compared to their brutality.
	Even when you say Nazism, it's actually understatement in comparison to what Hamas did on October 7th.
	So I guess now you understand this.
	Do you think that the people of Gaza, the Palestinian people, sympathize, many of them tend to sympathize with the terror group Hamas, or do they feel tyrannized by Hamas?
	Because, for example, as Israel was warning the people of Gaza to get the hell out or die, you know, it was Hamas that was stopping them from doing so.
	Listen, even the Gazan silence, you know, the Palestinian silence, that I don't hear a clear voice that stands firmly and says Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people, not even one solid individual that can say that.
	And this silence by itself is participating with Hamas, directly or indirectly.
	Now, sympathizing with Hamas, of course, there is a big class of people in Gaza.
	I don't want to say a majority because I don't have statistics, but there are lots of people in Gaza who support Hamas, give them material support, and they voted for them.
	Hamas were elected in Gaza Shri.
	It has been a while, but they were elected.
	It means that a majority of people of Gaza voted for them.
	And now a majority of people in Gaza failed to renounce Hamas, to reject Hamas, to say this does not represent us.
	And this silence, you know, an inability to stand for the truth makes them partners in this.
	So we can say civilians, there are innocent civilians, those could be the children, but the majority, I'm not sure about their innocence.
	Should the world understand that they are dealing with the worst terrorists that want people that are not like them dead?
	Is that how they should be viewed?
	And do you think the only way to deal with them is to destroy them?
	I mean, listen, Sean, the only cure for Hamas today, you know, and I speak on the authority of someone who knows them very, very well.
	I was born in the heart of their leadership, the founder of the movement, one of the founders of the movement.
	I bet they'd love you dead, wouldn't they?
	It doesn't matter what they wish.
	The truth is that they are brutal.
	And the international community tried with Hamas in every possible way.
	And Hamas still insists on annihilating the state of Israel.
	And now they are gambling with the children's blood, you know, and this is unforgivable.
	Let me tell you, this is unforgivable.
	Hamas gambled with children's blood.
	And this is a red line for any individual with consciousness.
	Hence, the final resort and the last resort is the use of force.
	There is no other option and there is no way around it.
	Hamas must be removed from power.
	Hamas must be eradicated.
	And this is what Israel is doing now on behalf of you, on behalf of me, on behalf of children of Gaza, and on behalf of the free world.
	Masab Hassan Youssef, the book is called Bestseller, Son of Hamas.
	Thank you for that insight.
	We appreciate it.
	And I hope you stay safe so you can continue to tell the world.
	Thank you, sir.
	800-941 Sean, our number if you want to be a pro-While our two-tier justice system, as we discussed in the last hour with President Trump's attorney, Elena Haba, and Greg Jarrett is alive and it's well.
	Let me take you back to July of 2016.
	Remember, Hillary Clinton had all those top-secret classified documents on her servers, and that does not include the 33,000 deleted emails with bleach bit on her servers that they never retrieved.
	That does not include the same emails that were on devices like Blackberries and iPhones that were smashed with hammers and SIM cards removed.
	But remember, this is James Comey talking about no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
	Now no reasonable prosecutor will prosecute Joe Biden.
	He's just going to get a stern lecture.
	Okay, just that's that's all he's going to get.
	Slap on the wrist.
	And then compare that to how Donald Trump was treated on the same issue about classified documents down at Mor-it-Lago.
	Listen.
	From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.
	Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret.
	36 of those chains contained secret information at the time, and eight contained confidential information at the time.
	Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
	Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
	No reasonable prosecutor would ever prosecute a case.
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	Now we have this whole issue, not only of classified documents that he's getting away from.
	Now it looks like, you know, in spite of all the lies we have caught Joe Biden in as a candidate, as a president, I never talked to my son Hunter.
	I never talked to my brother.
	I never talked to anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
	And then Devin Archer testifying that, well, in fact, he was on the call 20 times when Hunter Biden was talking with his foreign business partners.
	And then, of course, dinners at Cafe Milano, you know, with people like, oh, the former first lady of Moscow, a Russian oligarch who interestingly never got sanctioned like other Russian oligarchs after Russia invaded Ukraine and they gave $3.5 million to Hunter Biden and, according to Devin Archer, invested over $100 million in a real estate venture.
	Now, Seamus Bruner is the director of research at the Government Accountability Institute.
	He has a new book, and he calls it Controller Garks, Control Agarks, Exposing the Billionaire Class, Their Secret Deals, and the Globalist Plot to Dominate Your Life.
	And that kind of scares me, especially in light of President Xi and his visit with Biden.
	And, you know, considering Biden has never called out China on unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, never called them out on COVID, never called him out on the spy balloon, never calls him out on their hostile maneuvers against our fighter jets in international airspace or hostile maneuvers in international waterways against our Navy.
	Could it be that Joe Biden is compromised by China?
	Makes you wonder.
	Here's Biden.
	talking about the upcoming meeting with President Xi.
	We're not trying to decouple from China.
	Listen.
	How would you define success with your meeting with President Xi?
	To get back on a normal course of corresponding, being able to pick up a phone and talk to one another if there's a crisis, being able to make sure our military still have contact with one another.
	We can't take, as I told you, we're not trying to decouple from China.
	What we're trying to do is change the relationship for the better.
	From my perspective, if in fact the Chinese people who are in trouble right now economically, if the average homeowner or the homeowner, if the average citizen in China was able to have a decent paying job, that benefits them and it benefits all of us.
	But I'm not going to continue to sustain the support for positions where if we want to invest in China, we have to turn over all our trade secrets.
	All right.
	Seamus Bruner joins us now.
	He works with Peter Schweitzer at the Government Accountability Institute.
	They do phenomenal work.
	You might remember all of this information regarding the Biden family syndicate came from Peter's book, Secret Empires.
	And his new book, by the way, Controlagarchs, Exposing the Billionaire Class is Destined to Be a Bestseller.
	How are you, sir?
	Sean, it's great to be with you.
	You know, Peter Schweitzer and I, we follow the money.
	We followed it to James Comey and found the money he was getting from defense intelligence contractors through the revolving door.
	We followed it to the Bidens.
	And now we followed it all the way to the top to the globalist elites.
	I call them the controligarchs.
	And what we've found is really shocking stuff.
	First time ever, we've crunched the numbers and found that men like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, all of whom love China, by the way, they don't want to decouple from China.
	They want to make the U.S. more like China in a lot of ways.
	You saw that in the pandemic.
	You see it with the censorship and the deplatforming of conservatives.
	We found that they each have added tens of billions of dollars to their personal net worth since the pandemic began.
	Now, that may not surprise the savvy listeners of your show, but what really blew me away was how they're making their money.
	And they're doing it by constructing tyrannical systems like the censorship and taking the Hunter Biden laptop story off of Facebook.
	And each of these systems that they're building are beginning to control every aspect of our lives.
	Well, it's happening.
	Go into what the premise of this book is.
	For example, your investigation now took more than two years.
	And it is unbelievable the amount of footnotes, the amount of work you did on this.
	You picked three specific investigations, the issue of COVID, the issue of censorship, the issue of artificial intelligence, which was part of the deal that Biden made this week with President Qi, which I don't like.
	And that is that he makes this big deal saying, oh, well, we both agree that we'll never use artificial intelligence when it comes to any nuclear technology.
	Why would we ever trust the communist Chinese ever again?
	It's so true, Sean.
	And you hear this all the time that COVID is over.
	It's in the past.
	No, COVID was a blueprint for the future.
	It showed that the pandemic was profitable, the lockdowns were lucrative, and the control that this offered equaled a lot of cash for these control agarchs.
	So yeah, the systems you mentioned, energy.
	Imagine waking up in the middle of the night, drenched in sweat.
	You go to your thermostat, you try to turn it down, but it's locked.
	You can't control the temperature in your own home.
	Now, this may sound like some conspiracy theory.
	It's not.
	It's already happening.
	And Jeff Bezos and Amazon and Google, they're making these so-called smart thermostats.
	And people in Colorado and in Texas and even in Gavin Newsom's Communist Republic of California have experienced not being able to set the temperatures in their own homes.
	Regarding the food systems, everybody knows that Bill Gates is buying up a lot of farmland.
	But most people don't know is how or why Gates, this former software salesman, is doing it.
	And why he's doing it is he's cornering the food supply.
	He's pushing for regulations like banning cattle under the guise of saving the planet.
	When AOC goes out and says that cow flatulence is going to end the world, she didn't just dream this up.
	It comes from a white paper from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the World Economic Forum in Davos.
	And we went through mountains of financial filings and IRS 990s to really find out what the food agenda is here.
	It's why Bill Gates is investing in these fake meat companies.
	He thinks that if you eat a fake lab-grown hamburger, you're going to save the planet.
	Actually, it just enriches him.
	And then on the information front, Sean, everybody's heard, you know, we're all very familiar, some more than others, about how the censorship of the big tech companies is affecting our lives, affecting how we can share information with each other.
	This is just the beginning.
	These control guards are harvesting your data.
	They're ratcheting up AI, and they're going to use it to eliminate as many of your jobs as possible.
	Some estimates up to 40% of the jobs just gone.
	It's happening right now.
	It's no coincidence that Bill Gates-backed OpenAI, that's the chat GPT maker, is funding studies on universal basic income.
	So, I mean, it's pretty frightening stuff.
	It's happening right now.
	It's not too late, but we need to be armed with the facts.
	Well, we do need to be armed with the facts.
	All right, quick break more with Seamus Bruner.
	He is the director of research for the Government Accountability Institute.
	His new book is out, Controlagarchs Exposing the Billionaire Class, Their Secret Deals, and the Globalist Plot to Dominate Your Life.
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	What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
	Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
	Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
	It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
	Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
	Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
	We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
	You put two and two together.
	Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
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	What difference at this point does it make?
	Yes, that's right.
	Lock her up.
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	Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hammond.
	And I'm Carol Markowitz.
	We've been in political media for a long time.
	Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
	That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
	We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
	We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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	And I'm Ted Cruz.
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	Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
	Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
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	What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
	Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
	It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
	Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
	Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
	We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
	You put two and two together.
	Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
	Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
	I'm Leon Nayfok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
	This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
	What difference at this point does it make?
	Yes, that's right.
	Lock her up.
	Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
	All right, we continue now.
	Seamus Bruner is with us with the Government Accountability Institute.
	His brand new book just out this week, Control of Garks, exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and the globalist plot to dominate your life, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores all around the country.
	The fact that the Biden family syndicate, you know, and Peter pointed this out in Secret Empires, and the Biden family did, what, $1 billion that later became $1.5 billion with the Bank of China.
	We now have the WhatsApp message thanks to Congressman James Comer of the House Oversight Committee.
	I'm sitting here with my father.
	He's talking to a top CEFC.
	That's the China Energy Conglomerate State Run.
	We're wondering why you didn't keep your commitments.
	And between everybody he knows and my ability to hold the grudge, you're going to regret not following through on what you promised.
	And lo and behold, five days later, $5 million ends up in one of their show corporations identified by James Comer.
	Can you explain that?
	Yeah, that's right, Sean.
	I mean, your listeners know very well how the Biden family have sold out this country to communist China, but they haven't done it alone.
	And in a lot of ways, you look at Joe Biden and you think he's not really in control of a lot of his own faculties.
	There's got to be some other people pulling the strings.
	And the big tech guys, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, I mean, Zuckerberg keeps a copy of Xi Jinping's writings on his desk.
	I mean, shockingly and bizarrely, Mark Zuckerberg asked Xi to give his child, choose a name in Chinese for Zuckerberg's firstborn child.
	Bill Gates, likewise, he's been for decades working hand in glove with the CCP, helping them to censor their own opposition within China on platforms like he's got Skype and he has messaging platforms through Microsoft.
	He helps China identify its dissident journalists.
	And so what all this really amounts to, and you really saw it last night or the other night in California with the standing ovation, people like Larry Fink from BlackRock, they don't want to decouple from China, obviously.
	They like China.
	They like the Chinese system, the efficiency.
	They call it efficiency during the pandemic.
	Bill Gates and even Tony Fauci praised the efficiency of China.
	They want to be able to use that efficiency on us.
	Well, I think that's 100% true, but they have a history of never playing fair.
	I don't think Joe has the stomach or the willingness to ever confront our number one geopolitical foe that has now been pushed into the arms of Vladimir Putin and the mullahs in Iran, which I call the new axis of evil.
	Am I wrong on that?
	Not at all.
	Not at all, Sean.
	And George Soros is a big character in this book.
	He has said that China is essential for building the new world order.
	George Soros, of course, is funding these anti-American and pro-Hamas groups that are destroying the country.
	Have you been able to trace that money directly back to him?
	Well, his Open Society Network is funding a lot of these groups, yes.
	And is that all his money?
	The Open Society Institutes?
	Yes.
	That's George Soros' money.
	And what's even more shocking, actually, is that George Soros, we were wondering if he was even going to be around by the time the book came out.
	So we tracked down each of his children.
	And Alexander Soros has just been put in charge.
	He's the heir to the dark money fortune.
	He's even more radical than his father.
	Let me ask you about this.
	You talk in the book a lot about, for example, the likes of Bill Gates, or you talk about other people, Silicon Valley, and the great reception, for example, we saw from them.
	I assume that this is a big part of why you call it controligarchs.
	And I don't think, you know, obviously you've coined the term in that sense.
	What are they doing that the American people need to know the most?
	Well, right now, the The digital ID is a very important issue that people need to know more about.
	I mean, just last week, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the United Nations, the Rockefeller Foundation, they hosted an event called 50 in 50, where they're saying that they're going to roll out digital ID regimes in 50 countries within five years.
	That's just right around the corner.
	And you see huge push from companies like BlackRock and Larry Fink to get behind digital ID.
	And once they can link all of your data up to a centralized database and tie it to a digital ID, this will be like your gun purchases or, you know, like anything that you buy.
	They are using kind of the AI to create profiles on you and find out just how opposed to the Biden regime you might be.
	This is exactly what China has.
	It's a social credit score system.
	It's a de facto social credit score system.
	They're very on board with that system.
	BlackRock's on board with it.
	Microsoft and Bill Gates are on board with it.
	And so you see, like I said, they're not trying to decouple from China.
	They're borrowing their pages from the Chinese Communist Party playbook, and they're trying to implement them right here in the USA.
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