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Senator Tom Cotton - November 23rd, Hour 2
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just insane uh has gotten a lot of attention in dc um And anyway, Jack Lew, under questioning from Senator Ted Cruz, you know, just refuses and dodges and ducks and and and weaves away from answering these questions about whether he believes the world is safer because of the Iran deal.
And then he does want to answer whether or not Ted Cruz's question if he thinks it's a good idea to send humanitarian aid to Gaza.
Anyone with half a brain knows that aid is going right into the hands of terrorists known as Hamas that are in full control of Gaza.
And yet, Joe, your president wants to put a hundred million dollars in the hands of uh the the Palestinians, but yet we know the Palestinian authority is now likely to pay the people involved in the terror attacks recently on Israel.
It's insane.
Here's Ted Cruz questioning.
On October 7th, Hamas used swarms of sophisticated drones in their October 7th attack.
Do you believe the world is safer today because of 233 2231 and the expiration of the arms embargo allowing Iran now to sell uh inter b uh ballistic missiles and long-range drones?
Senator, I think you would have to agree that the history of the U.S. engagement on JCPOA has changed substantially since I sat in this room.
Do you think the world is better and safer with the arms embargo expires?
But Senator, if the U.S. was not yes or no.
Are we safer today with no arms embargo?
I think it's a much more complicated than that because we're not part of JCPOA, therefore there was no extension of the arms embargo.
I would have advocated for an extension of the arms embargo, and we might well have been.
And by the way, the Biden administration's been in power two and a half to two and a half years.
The arms embargo is expiring today, and you were pivotal in that happening.
Under ordinary anti-terrorism laws, you can't send money where there's a high risk it'll be used for terrorism.
But what did the Biden administration do?
It waived our anti-terrorism law because their political agenda was so important they were willing to take that high risk.
Was it a mistake to send hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza that in a very real and practical way funded the death squads and funded the rockets that are being used to murder Israelis?
Senator, I was not in government at the time these decisions were made.
Was it a mistake?
I'm not familiar with the back and forth that you're referring to, but my understanding is the funding that went to Gaza was for things like the hospital and and humanitarian.
So was OFAC wrong when it concluded there's a high risk that Hamas could derive benefits?
Senator, I would have to look at the document to have higher.
I have high regard for OFAC.
Um I I I just am not familiar with the document.
So is the world safer or less safe because hundreds of millions of dollars were sent to Gaza when it's controlled by Hamas.
Senator Hamas's activities have proven how evil they are and how important it is to be.
Anyway, joining us now is Senator Tom Cotton, great state of Arkansas.
Senator, welcome back to the program.
Hey, Sean, thanks for having me on.
Let's let's get your reaction to how is it even possible that somebody that had the mindset of Jack Lew and facilitated that that really stupid deal it you know enriching the Iranians.
Now that that nuclear deal, if you recall, there was no American inspections allowed at all.
And any place, any time, anywhere inspections did not exist.
We already know that the Iranians never once complied with with any points in that agreement.
And we know they're still pursuing their nuclear weapons and are closer than they've ever been.
So uh how does this make any sense?
Sean, it doesn't make any sense.
Uh Joe Biden of the last three years has just picked up where Barack Obama left off trying to appease and conciliate the Ayatollahs, which of course has emboldened them to support the kind of attacks by their proxy group, Hamas, that we saw a couple of weeks ago, the worst slaughter of Jews, since War II and one of the worst terror attacks on Americans in modern times.
And Jack Lew was right in the middle of it, uh, Sean.
It wasn't just that he supported and implemented and championed the nuclear deal with Iran.
He went over and above that, Sean.
He testified to Congress in the summer of twenty fifteen that Iran would not be able to access the U.S. financial system.
Seven months later, in February of twenty sixteen, he broke his promise.
And he gave them a license to convert almost six billion dollars in Omani currency to U.S. dollars.
And then he lied to Congress about that a couple years later.
So it's much worse than just advocating for and implementing the nuclear deal, which is bad enough.
It's that he lied to Congress about giving them sanctions relief over and above the nuclear deal.
And that's to say nothing, Sean, for his repeated criticisms of Benjamin Netanyahu, for instance, or speaking to Congress in 2015, or his defense of Barack Obama's refusal to protect Israel from yet another anti-Semitic UN resolution.
Now I know that Democrats say, like, well, we've got to confirm Jack Lew to show our support for Israel.
I would turn that around, Sean.
What we need to do is defeat Jack Lew's nomination to show a new, tougher approach to Iran.
Yeah.
So I looked over the Senate report from 2018 to found that Lou during his tenure as Secretary of the Treasury granted this specific license that you just referred to that authorized the conversion of Iranian assets worth billions of U.S. dollars using the U.S. financial system.
That report also found the administration tried to convert $5.7 billion from U.S. banks to Iranian assets.
It noted the Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Control encouraged two U.S. cor uh correspondent banks to convert the funds.
In January 2016, Obama announced 400 million in cash in a transfer to Iran, which which Lou faced scrutiny for at that time.
And the Wall Street Journal reported at the time that the payment was conducted using this combination of Swiss and other foreign currencies, then transported to Iran in these cargo planes that we had talked at the time so much about.
And to me, you know, at that point, if you're not going to explain why you did that, and you can't answer fundamental questions, you are unfirst of all, your decision making shows you're not qualified for this position.
Because they're the number one world sponsor of terror.
Number two, the fact that you're trying to hide it, I'm I mean, it almost sounds like a Biden family uh, you know, uh syndicate operation where they're funneling money here, there, and anywhere just to get money to Iran mules, which for the life of me, Senator, I can't understand.
Yeah, Sean, you laid out the facts well, and I just want to stress the audience.
Those facts they don't come from Sean Hannity, they don't come from Tom Cotton, they don't come from our friend Lindsay Graham.
They come from official reports of the Senate's permanent subcommittee on investigations led by Rob Portman, one of the most widely respected senators uh in recent times from twenty eighteen.
These are facts.
These are not allegations.
These are not opinions, and Jack Lew won't even answer them in testimony.
That's why he cannot be trusted to be our ambassador.
The broader policy, as you say, is also crazy.
We will be enriching one of our worst enemies, giving them hundreds of billions of dollars in sanctions relief under the Obama administration.
Now giving them almost another hundred billion dollars in relief, whether it's paying them ransom for six million dollars or letting them export oil to China, our worst enemy in the world, in violation of U.S. sanctions policy.
It's little wonder that the Iatolas feel emboldened to strike at the United States as we've had more than or at least seven attacks on Americans in the region in just the last two days, and that they feel emboldened to support groups like Hamas as they try to try to kill more Israelis.
Let's talk about where we are.
We know the ground incursion is is imminent.
It is happening, it's been greenlighted.
We also have the additional warrior, certainly Israel does, but any but any peace-loving American should have it as well.
Uh, you know, a two-front war, that being from the north.
Then we've got this little warning from a country called Iran yet again that time is up, and and they themselves are threatening to involve themselves.
Now, Israel, I don't think is going to have a problem with Hezbollah in the north and got and Hamas in the in the south and the Gaza border.
Um, but now if the Iranians directly involve themselves, we know they're providing weaponry, we know they're providing military assistance.
We know that they were involved in the plotting and planning of of this worst terror attack in Israel's history.
Uh if they get if they take on further involvement in this, if they take on a bigger role in this, if they are actively now also at war with Israel, what does that mean, Senator?
Well, Sean, first off, it'll mean that Joe Biden has once again failed to deter Iran, a virulent anti-American anti-Israel regime.
Uh, what he should have done from the moment this attack happened on October 7th, this make it crystal clear to Iran and to Hezbollah and to other Iranian supported terrorist groups, that any any effort to open a second front in Israel, any attack on Americans in the region will be treated by the United States as a direct attack by Iran on the United States and will be met with massive retaliation.
I'm afraid he didn't do that, or if he did, the Ayatollahs didn't believe him, because again, we've had at least seven attacks on Americans in the last 48 hours in the Middle East.
And look what also happened.
One of our Navy destroyers in the Red Sea had to shoot down land attack cruise missiles being fired from Yemen, presumably to the north into Israel.
Where did a bunch of goat herders in Yemen get cruise missiles, Sean?
These aren't RPGs or AK-47s, they're cruise missiles.
And the answer is they got them from Iran, and Iran has unleashed all of its proxies to try to kill Americans and should try to kill more Israelis.
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Can we play this out a little bit?
Let's say it's a two-front war to start, and then we have military involvement by Iran.
How does that change the equation?
To me, that that we then run the risk of a wider conflict and war that could drag in the entire Middle East.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe that's maybe that's way over the top in my thinking.
Correct me if you think I'm wrong.
Number two, at that point, I think all bets are off in terms of what Israel's response and what their options then are, because their very existence is then hanging in the balance from my perspective.
Again, tell me if I'm wrong.
No, I don't think you're wrong on either front, Sean.
On the first point, uh, the risks of inaction here outweigh the risk of action.
Joe Biden and liberals typically only focus on the risk of action.
Well, they they shot at another American base, but they didn't kill any Americans.
They just wounded some.
We should turn the other cheek.
Or they're demanding more sanctions relief, and they're saying they're going to kill Americans if we don't give it to them.
They always obsess about the risks of action.
But as we see time and again throughout the annals of history, just look at World War One and World War II.
The risk of inaction is often greater and is likely to provoke more attacks on America, more attacks on Israel.
So I think President Biden has to be clear that we are prepared to act if Israel or if Iran strikes at Israel or strikes at more Americans.
And if it is a wider war with Iran and Hezbollah, then yes, I'm confident that Israel would do what is necessary to ensure the survival of the Jewish nation.
That's a frightening scenario, Senator, because uh uh it's not being said, but we know what's on the table.
Uh if if Benjamin Netanyahu and Benny Gantt and Yoab Gallant and their war cabinet uh are convinced uh that uh that the Jewish nation's survival is at stake.
I am confident they will do take all necessary steps to ensure its survival.
Let me ask the harder question.
And and I know America's appetite towards being engaged in foreign entanglements uh is not very strong right now, and frankly, for good reason, because what happens almost every time and is that you know everyone's all gung ho.
Oh, okay, we're gonna get involved in this conflict or or whatever.
And they get involved, then all of a sudden, uh, over time the war becomes politicized, and then it gets criticized, and then people there, you know, they begin to get uh soft in their support, and then they say, Oh, never mind, and then they want a pull out in the case of Biden and Afghanistan.
That pull out was a disaster.
And and I fear that any any military action that is not swift and quick, you know, uh we risk losing public support for it.
What should America's role be?
Well, well, Sean, I think you make some good points about how hesitant, cautious half measures often do end up failing, not just on the battlefield, but they quickly lose political support.
And if you're involved in big issues, you should never go with little measures.
Um I I would remind listeners, for instance, uh what Ronald Reagan did in 1988 after he had warned Iran not to put mines in the Persian Gulf, and they did, and it struck one of our Navy vessels.
Within a few days, he launched attacks that sank half of Iran's Navy.
And guess what?
They stopped mining the Persian Gulf.
So there are many, many shades uh of action from nothing at all, which is what Joe Biden specializes in, to invading a country and toppling its government and occupying it for years.
And as you see with Reagan, not just in the tank war, but in bombing Libya after the West Berlin uh um bombing of our American troops, there are actions that you can take that are swift and decisive and that will restore the healthy fear that Iran should have of the United States.
Uh we really appreciate your leadership, Senator.
Um, I mean, you have just been rock solid on every single issue that uh we we call and ask you for comment on, and we appreciate it a lot.
Thank you, sir, for being with us.
Thank you, Sean.
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I don't know how to say this, but this guy's just become a great friend of mine.
Just come to love him.
He's like family to me.
His name is Lawrence Jones.
You all know him from Fox.
You know, LJ Across America was a big hit.
He he's spent so many, you know, I don't know how many frequent flyer miles this guy has, but he has more than anybody I know for sure.
Uh recently got a massive promotion as a co-host of Fox and Friends in the Morning.
Uh we couldn't be happier for him.
And now he's out with his first book today, and it's called American Man Speaking the Truth About the War on Masculinity.
And it's kind of humorous.
There's a little bit of a backstory because LJ is happens to be, and I really can't give out too many details here, friends with my son.
And LJ and my son get behind my back, and they start uh, you know, comparing notes about you know the lectures that I give both of them because it's the exact same lectures.
True or false, LJ.
It is true.
It is true.
Uh Sean, honored to be on your show as always.
Um but the you know, I I had to confess to you as I interviewed you for my book that I actually take those lessons.
And you know, you're great.
Well, we we don't want to admit it because you we get tired of hearing it, but we actually are listening.
You know, you you actually at one point in the book, now you uh I I've read the book cover to cover.
Let me tell you what I love about it.
And I knew when you said the war, you know, the truth about the war of masculinity, it's just gonna piss liberals off.
Um and and I love that aspect of any good book, any good conservative writing a book.
And you know, but it is very, very true.
And men and women, it's just a fact.
I know some people can't stand to hear it, but there are very distinct differences.
I think there are there is a love that a mother offers a child that that men just don't seem to have the capacity to offer.
I don't know if you call it maternal instincts, whatever it is, but I see a difference myself.
This is my own personal view.
And with men, you know, especially with my kids, I always looked at it as part of my role, toughen their ass up and and let them know right from wrong and raise them the right way.
And and I always took that role very, as you know, very seriously.
And I think it's the most important job you do.
So there really is, you know, pushback on this, and it's sort of like, you know, especially when we talk about the transgenderism, gender identity issues.
People seem to get somewhat confused over it, and I don't think it needs to be that confusing.
Well, Sean, you know, one thing that I express in the book, and look, I don't begrudge anybody on what faith they choose, but you know, we're believers, and God made us this way.
You know, he made man unique, he made one woman unique, and this is not a book that bashes um femininity, you know.
Uh, we we appreciate that.
But men have to take their place, and there's fundamental differences in the way God created us and the way that we act, the way our emotions are, and that's okay.
Uh, and I think we're living in a society right now uh that even from a biological standpoint where you see the differences.
You know, I talked about in the book uh back back in the day, they made this movie about Joanna Man, right?
There's this NBA star, male docking and all that type of stuff, and he get kicked out of the Mel Lee.
Well, he didn't get to the suit, dresses up as a woman, and he's just turns into this sensation on the court.
And I'm like, man, we've never seen a woman dunk the ball like this.
Like this.
Well, it comes to find out, you know, one day the bodysuit is off.
It's like it was a man there the entire time.
And all the women felt violated.
Well, that was a movie.
And now we're doing it in real life, and we're celebrating it.
And I I I talked about in the book.
If society is going wrong, then men, men are going wrong.
Because men aren't taking their place.
We're not defending the women.
We're not defending our children.
We're not standing up for the Judeo-Christian values that God entrusts us to defend.
We're not being shivorous.
We're not opening up the door.
We're not taking our place.
We're forcing women.
I saw one suggestion from a college student when I was speaking to her that there should be selective service for women as well.
No way.
No way.
We got Ukrainian men going to the front lines.
And then we have our kid our kids going to the back of the line.
So there's so much that I address in the book.
I encourage people to go to Amazon, anywhere, that they get book barns and nobles to purchase it.
But I I it's a love letter to women as well.
You want your daughter to marry an American man.
You want your son to be an American man.
We talk a lot about accountability too, Sean.
No, I mean, and one of the things you do, you actually, it's a compilation in many ways.
It's so well researched, and in that you get some of the the smartest, the wisest, the best advice from people, you know, all across the political spectrum and different varying uh professions, and and I love the fact that you intersperse it.
You do it in a very interesting way.
Even my interview is just not my interview now with Sean Hannity, no, or Sean Hannity said here, or Mark Levin said here, or you know, any number of uh f famous people that you interviewed for the book, which uh made it very, very interesting to me.
Um and by the way, and you and I are libertarian on this issue, as far as what adults choose to do, gender identity, etc.
etc.
I'm friends with Caitlin Jenner.
Um we've been friends a long time.
I I respect people's right to live in a free country and make those decisions.
I just don't want teachers having a captive audience of students indoctrinating them and contradicting values I'm trying to instill in my children.
That's not their job.
That's where we we might run sideways.
And you're right, it's in many ways, you know, they thank God, you know, for strong women.
I j I just I have nothing but admiration.
I grew up with older sisters, everyone was strong.
They were tough.
And they didn't made my life a living hell if you want to know the truth.
One of the one of the things that I know about you, and and you talk about your parents in this book.
Um, and you know, I've always, you know, from the time that I met you, I always saw that you you had just natural talent and talent that I didn't believe I had, for sure.
Um you just belonged on television and I knew your career was gonna explode, and I told you that from the beginning, you didn't believe me for a long time, but I I ended up being right on pretty much everything I told you would happen.
And and my other advice to you that we'll keep private is really good advice, and I hope you always forever listen to it.
Um just like I I want my son and my daughter to listen to my advice too.
Um and you called me old man for it, and I won't forgive you for that part of it, but you know, you've got all this talent and your ability to connect with people.
When I watch you in diners, when I watch you talking to people on the street, when I see you in various locations where news is breaking, I I mean your connection with people is just real.
And you you I would say, you know, Lawrence Jones keeping it real every day, and you're always asking the question that I most want to ask, which is a gift.
You know, Sean, you you've been, I mean, from day one, and I I think uh in the when I interview you you f during this book, I say, you know, I'm just curious because you never asked for anything in return.
You supported me so in my career, treating me like a a second son, uh, family vacations and just always uh uh the first call, um, because no no young man wants to call their parents uh because they feel like we we feel like we failed.
But the any emergency phone call is Sean Hannity.
And you know, you you you walk me through this this this this industry that my parents could have never walked me through.
Um my and I talked about this in the book because I think it's important, you know.
My mom got pregnant with me at 16 years old.
My dad uh married her immediately.
Immediately, and they just celebrated 30 years of marriage.
Um but he took his place in.
What a beautiful story, isn't it?
It's it's it's crazy because you don't hear these stories today's time.
But I I'm not Lawrence Jones on Fox News, travel around the country.
If my dad doesn't take his place in the household.
And it is a epicemic and and and in this country of men that don't that want to do men things, get women pregnant, but don't want to step up to the plate.
And that doesn't mean that things are gonna be all good and gravy, but you have a responsibility.
If you if you help bring a child in this world, it is your duty to help raise that child.
And part of the reason why we have things that are happening all across this country of violence, of drugs, because men aren't taking their roles.
And so uh to a certain effect, I interviewed all these other men that have been successful and that are god being men and have good perspective because I I I wanted to give an example also to the men that are struggling out there to take their place, but you can do it, and here's a map for you.
If you didn't have a dad, if you didn't have an uncle, if you didn't have a big brother, this is a roadmap for you.
You can do it even if you didn't have that leadership uh in your household.
Well, I I will say this, and and uh most of our conversations are private and personal and two friends talking.
But one piece of advice I did give you after I you know you you shared with me your life's background and your family, and you know, you told me your mom, you told me this story about your mom getting pregnant at sixteen.
You told me the story about your dad, and your mom, it turns out, ends up being a preacher, and she's a darn good one, and and I met your family, and your dad uh is a truck driver.
Yep and you know where I'm going with this.
What did I always say?
Don't ever what?
Forget what.
Uh this is rule number one.
Uh do never never forget your mom, the preacher, and your dad, the truck driver.
What would and what would they think of whatever it is you're you're doing or or deciding.
That's exactly right.
Especially when they're not around.
Especially when they're not around.
Now, uh, I'd like to think that might be it might have been a moment that you start thinking about it.
For example, I guarantee you right now, there's somebody on their way listening to this radio program, hearing our voices that may be going to their drug dealer.
My advice is turn around and go home.
You know, there there's somebody maybe going uh to meet somebody to hook up with and they're married and they have children.
My advice is turn your car around and get the hell home and get out of it before you create trouble in your life.
Because we all have choices in this life, and and you know it, and I know it, and it happens every day, and then you know, you suffer the consequences of these bad decisions.
And I will tell you, and I've I've said this publicly many times.
I don't think fame is healthy in at all.
Terrible.
It's it's it's got a downside, people's egos.
We we live it, we see it, we can name names, we don't, but I should.
You know, I mean, it is some of these egos get so out of control over time.
And I'm like, man, you you just forgot where you came from.
You can't forget where you come from.
My mom was a prison guard.
My dad was a family court probation guy and a and a waiter.
I'm not forgetting that part of their lives.
That's who I am.
I grew up poor.
Yeah.
You you can't, and you know, I I I remember early on in my career, um, you you gave me all these warnings of you know, things that come with the job.
And I always used to make fun of you because um, you know, you're unmerciful doing that, but go ahead.
No, I know.
I I love I love it.
Uh Sean doesn't leave his house.
Um he doesn't go out, he doesn't go to parties, he doesn't he doesn't do any of it.
And you know I do, I go out on weekends, but I don't go out during the week.
Okay.
Yeah, you go out doing the he doesn't go out that much.
I I'm honest with you.
He he'll go around in his community.
He may drop by somewhere for an hour, hour and a half, but he doesn't he doesn't go out much.
He he is a homebody and the other day, some of my friends, now that I'm working Monday through Friday, and I got the weekend off now.
Some of my friends were trying to get me to go out, and um they've been trying to, and I go, no, I'm gonna stay home.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Because there's so much temptation out there.
There is so much.
Well, I try and go out with but with family and close friends.
That's who I hang out with.
Always.
Always the same people.
Very, very um, very rarely.
And and there's a reason for that, because there's there's there's so much that's out there, and also I talk about that's not the reason I go because I'm afraid of dealing with that sort of thing.
I just Well, you don't have to deal with I have I I like uh I I like a more quiet life.
I've I I've I grow closer to God when I'm quiet, to be honest, and I think I do a better job when I'm working out and and doing the healthy things in my life.
But I want to just uh give you a big plug here.
This book is a must-read.
And if and if there's somebody in your life that needs good fatherly advice, this is it.
American Man speaking the truth about the war on masculinity.
And it's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores now all across the country.
Lawrence Jones, congrats on the book.
Congratulations on your your um promotion to Fox and Prince.
You're doing a great job, and we're proud of you.
Thank you, big guy.
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