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Nov. 22, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Deal with Hamas - November 21st, Hour 1

Mark Simone fills in for Sean Hannity and is joined by Jake Novak who talks about the Israeli-Hamas conflict and looks ahead to what Hezbollah might do to attack Israel. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
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Hey, well, no, it's not Sean.
Sean's not feeling well.
Suddenly at the last minute, not feeling great.
So it's Mark Simone here in the meantime.
It's just as big a shock to me.
I had no intention of being.
See, I do the great show here at WOR in New York, our big flagship from 10 to noon.
And then I was done.
And I have the whole rest of the week off.
So I was leaving town.
I was going to Connecticut.
And I'm driving, heading towards the Westside Highway.
And I had a caller ID, Linda from Hannity.
I said, isn't that nice?
She heard me say I'm off all week and she's calling to wish me a happy vacation.
And I answer the phone.
You're very like me.
Where are you?
Where are you?
I need you.
I'm not known to be the most calm.
I'm a little calm.
It depends.
Well, no, you are.
I would say you were very gracious.
I said, well, could you get somebody else?
No, I need you.
In fairness, I just want the audience to know that Mark, can I actually tell them a little story about how we met?
Is that okay?
Do you mind if I do that?
No.
In fact, if you could kill five minutes, that'd be great because I'm still.
That's just lovely.
I'm going to call it.
First of all, I don't kill anything.
I entertain.
Okay.
So let's just rephrase.
Let's vary our lexicon.
But I will tell you, when I met Mark Simone, he was the first person I ever worked for in radio.
And yes, you were the first one.
I was hired.
I was hired to work for Sean and Jack Maldonado, who was the operations manager at the time.
Hi, Jack, if you're listening.
Yeah, awesome dude.
And Jack said, Linda, can you do me a solid?
He goes, I really need somebody to work Saturday mornings.
Nobody wants to do it.
And, you know, I'm new kid on the bar.
You say nobody wants to do it.
I was the number one show on Saturday.
You were the number one show, but nobody wanted to get up early.
Me, I'm like, oh, I'm all in.
I'll go in at 6 a.m.
He's like, great.
You can do Mark Simone.
You can do Larry Kudlow.
I'm like, awesome.
So I come in.
It's my first time.
I'm very excited.
Okay.
I'm here.
I'm ready.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
Absolutely none.
Like zero.
And you come in on a break.
You're like, hey, hey, Don, you're terrible.
You're really bad at this.
Yeah.
So here, I'm like, I didn't say that.
Oh, my God.
You were merciless.
Merciless.
It was really bad.
And I was like, listen, I don't know who you're used to working with, but I don't really appreciate your tone.
So if you could take it down a notch, I'm doing the best I can.
And you're like, oh, we're going to get along just fine.
You're like, okay, this is great.
So we proceeded to work together on Saturday mornings until they found somebody permanent, I guess.
I don't know, it was like another six or seven months or something like that.
It was really funny.
And that was really how I kind of like got my stride in radio: working with you and Larry on Saturdays, which is so funny.
Yes.
But anyways, over the past, you know, 15 plus years, obviously we've become wonderful friends.
And you're obviously a consummate professional, always amazing, always on your game, just top, top of the top.
And when I called you today, you know, bless your heart, I'm like, hi.
Yeah, it's me.
So listen.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's what you said.
Hi, it's me.
I need you.
I picked up the point.
Where are you?
I'm like, where are you right now?
And you're like, I'm on the West Side Highway.
I'm like, how far?
This will determine my ask of whether or not it's appropriate.
I said, you know, you could get Joe Conscience.
Joe Concha's busy.
Get back here.
Joe Concha was busy.
God bless him.
He's on TV like crazy.
He always calls himself.
He's like, you know, I'm the holiday darling.
You know, the holidays come and you see me non-stop on Fox, which is true because Kancha is everywhere right now.
But yeah, thank you very much for turning around and coming back and just, you know, always being such a good friend of the show.
We really appreciate you.
And I'm very sorry that you get, you know, you have to leave three hours later, but I'm grateful for you to be here.
So thank you.
You're what she sounds like.
You should hear off the air.
I am so grateful.
I am, honestly.
You have no idea.
That's what I'm thankful for this Thanksgiving is you turning around and coming in.
So thank you very much.
Well, we'll get to Israel.
We'll get to Biden.
We'll get to all this.
But first, you're in charge here.
Now, listen, I come in the studio.
I hear this like weird, creaky noise, like it's haunted in here.
Then I realize it's that ice maker over there.
You got an ice maker in the studio?
What the hell goes on in here?
Sean loves ice.
I mean, the man just loves ice.
And it got to a point where, so the kitchen, for if you guys can picture it in the listening audience, so the kitchen is like super far away from the host studio.
And so you don't, you get a four or five minute break.
I know it feels like eternity when you're listening, but to us, we're trying to run around and do a thousand things.
Getting down the hallway to that kitchen was just we could never get back in time before the break was up and give him something to drink.
So we decided one Christmas as a team, we're going to get the ice maker for the boss.
So that's what we did, and that's why it's in there.
But it is very loud.
Fortunately, the mics are directional and they don't pick it up.
Oh, it definitely is very loud.
It makes ice all the time.
It's super loud.
What's the deal with this chair?
This chair is so high.
What am I?
A lifeguard?
What kind of chair is this?
It is a very high chair.
I'm not going to lie about that.
But the thing is, the screens are high.
The screens are high.
So, you know, when you're looking over, you got to be a little higher so you can see all of our beautiful faces staring at you.
So there's that.
And look at the cord to charge your phone.
It's still a lightning plug.
This is uncivilized.
Where's the USB-C?
Not everybody owns Stock and Apple like you, you know.
So it's, we can't keep up with you, Mark.
All right.
Now, you know, this is the biggest, most listened to radio show in America.
This is the dream of everybody in radio would be just to be on the Sean Hannity show.
Imagine filling in.
It's beyond anybody's dream.
I get to fill in.
I'm complaining for the first 10 minutes about the studio.
You're complaining.
Why am I here?
Why are you doing this to me?
This would be anybody's dream.
So what else can we?
Hey, you got that fancy Nespresso coffee maker.
I do.
If anybody's addicted to coffee and you'd like to quit, get one of those.
You'll stop drinking coffee in about three days.
Oh, come on.
So bitter.
See, but that's for people who like coffee.
And there's a million different flavors in there.
You could pick, I mean, honestly, there's like the sleeves are like, I mean, we've got, I don't know, Katie, what do we got?
We got the Cafe Luna.
We got the Indonesian Spring.
You know, they got all these crazy names.
There's a lot of flavors.
There's caramel.
Mark did get decaf.
Ew, why?
Yes, exactly.
Oh, my God, that's like blasphemy.
Why are you drinking decaf?
Because in the afternoon, I don't drink caffeine anymore because I have a lot of caffeine in the morning.
First of all, you're a gentleman of the evening.
You like to party all night long.
If anything, you need more caffeine, not less.
No, I don't know.
Oh my God.
I go into Starbucks, which is right next to here.
I'll go into Starbucks.
And then there's always a line, 10 people in line, and there's always that one idiot who's buying 15 things for the office.
He's got a whole order laid out of all of them.
First of all, that guy is the most popular guy in the office.
He is not.
He is not by any stretch an idiot.
He's the favorite.
No, not when you're in line.
He's an idiot to you because you're behind him.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Hey, if you're in Starbucks and they have to give you a box to carry everything in, there's something wrong with you.
Listen, one cup of coffee and go to work.
Stop.
First of all, are you getting decaf coffee at Starbucks?
Yeah, sometimes.
Yeah.
Why?
Like, that's just silly.
The whole reason you go to Starbucks is because the beans have 25% more caffeine than anywhere else.
You can't buy that kind of coffee.
It's ridiculous.
That's why everybody's addicted to Starbucks.
They're actually physically addicted because it's so jacked.
So you're going in to get unjacked?
Well, I couldn't get any coffee because I had to get over here.
I didn't have 40 minutes to.
Oh, because you had a screaming producer in your ear?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that's Starbucks, like the motor vehicle department.
You wait in line for 20 minutes, then they say, okay, here's your temporary coffee.
Go wait in that line to get the real coffee.
Here's your sample of our peppermint, mocha, ice, latte.
I can't even keep up with all the flavors.
Honest to God.
It's unbelievable.
It is unbelievable.
It's quarter after.
It's time to start the show.
Oh, by the way, if you're going to Thanksgiving, it's tough because LaBelle wants to see all these relatives anyway.
I mean, most of them you love, but there's an uncle or an aunt you could.
And you're worried about fighting politics, Trump.
You're worried about getting into fights.
Go the opposite route.
Rile them up like crazy.
Show up with a MAGA hat, with a, I mean, go to my Instagram.
I have a picture up there.
It's a Thanksgiving picture of Trump.
It's a happy Thanksgiving Donald Trump card.
Before you even go, send the picture to them just to make sure they come in full of rage.
It'll be much, no, seriously, don't try to dance around it.
What are you doing for Thanksgiving?
Are you hosting?
Yeah, right.
I mean, you know, it's a fair question.
You are the hoster with the moster, so, you know, it's possible.
Going to several Thanksgiving parties.
There's a lot of Thanksgiving parties.
And then after that, you know, after 10 at night, there's every club, everything is packed because.
Oh, I know.
It's the party night of the year, man.
Yeah.
And that's a good time to get some decaf coffee.
Yeah, but half the people in New York aren't Americans to begin with.
They're from mother country.
They never heard of this Thanksgiving until they got here.
So it doesn't mean that much to a lot of these people.
It's not a big holiday for them.
It's actually very true.
I actually had somebody ask me the other day.
I was on the subway and they were like, they're like, what is this Thanksgiving thing?
I'm like, okay, I can't talk to you.
Yeah, well, hey.
You get excited about Dominion Day in Canada.
No, but I don't live wherever that is.
Canada, it's a big deal.
Yeah, I don't care anything about Trudeau.
He's an idiot.
There's your idiot of the day.
No, no, no, no.
Joe Biden, don't take the title away.
Joe Biden.
They might have to share it, honestly.
They might be bosom brothers.
I mean, the two of them, it's just like dumb and dumber.
For me, it's nearly impossible to tolerate listening to either.
No, you got to give Biden the victory on this one.
He is the worst.
Because first of all, Trudeau can find the door.
He can get off the stage.
He has a fall.
You know, they have a team now assigned to Biden.
It's 11 people.
It's called the Fall Guys.
It's a team.
This is not a joke.
They're literally in charge of preventing him from falling.
There's a bunch of them that go with him everywhere to watch him.
One of them is a physical therapist who works with him.
Another is, there's a name for this.
I forget a balance expert to teach him balance.
The team tries to get there first and shorten the walk.
So if he's going to go up on a stage, they move the stages close to the door so he doesn't have to walk too far.
You know, in Air Force One, they used to come down those magnificent stairs with the red carpet.
Now he always uses the little baby stairs on the other side.
This is not a joke.
They're trying to figure out, you know, sometimes the president has to leave the White House and cross that.
big lawn to get to the helicopter.
They're trying to figure out what to do here.
You can try to land the helicopter closer, but it's a little dangerous.
You could lose some trees or windows or something.
But every time he comes down the steps from Air Force One, it's a minor victory.
Because you, I mean, I don't know about you, but I mean, when you fall down once, it's like, oh man, that stinks, you know, but anybody has a moment.
I mean, you know, it happens.
Yeah, but if you're not.
When it happens, yeah, it's like, all right, guys, it's embarrassing.
I mean, it really is embarrassing.
And also, when he falls, he really falls.
And remember the one where he was going up the stairs and he fell three times?
Yeah, he just kept falling.
I never saw a guy fall going upstairs.
I'm like, what?
Hold the railing, sir.
Hold the railing.
That's what the rest of us do.
I mean, I just, I don't know.
I mean, listen, I'm a very clumsy person, but I've been that way since infancy.
So, you know, for me, it's not an age thing.
For him, I don't know if it's age, if he's got something wrong with him.
I mean, you know, Sean and I were talking about this the other day.
He's got that CPAP machine, and people were like freaking out.
Like, oh, this is like a bad sign for his health and this and that.
And I'm like, yeah, I don't think that was the first sign that he was like having bad health.
I mean, for me, this is like an add-on.
This is not like the moment.
I don't know.
Well, this team reports he does have, he has been diagnosed with spinal something.
There is a little problem with the spine.
They want him wearing sneakers from now on.
Hey, and I'm not kidding.
Don't be surprised if you now see a golf cart in a lot of this.
Like they'll take him by golf cart to the helicopter.
Well, you know, I think the person who had the best answer and who actually knew what happened to Biden was Corinne Jean-Pierre.
As you know, it's pretty windy outside.
It's very windy.
I almost fell coming up the steps myself.
He is doing a bunch of fine.
He's joining that was recently broken at all.
All I can tell you, he's doing fine.
He's preparing for the trip today, and he's doing just great.
It's windy, man.
You know, those leaves are blowing, and so is he.
It happens.
It happened to the best of us.
Gosh, darn it.
So this fall guys team, they should get him.
You ever go to the mall and you see the old senior citizens that walk the mall?
They just walk around the mall all day with the big, big, big white sneakers, those big white new balance sneakers.
They get a pair of that for Joe Biden.
No, it's true.
Got to get the tennis balls and cut them in half.
You know, the malls are kind of empty now.
It's tough.
They don't know what to do with the mall.
They become like very expensive treadmills for senior citizens.
They just go walk the mall.
You're a disaster.
Oh, my God.
Hey, I don't like, we'll get to this in a few minutes.
This Israel hostage deal.
I don't like the sound of this, but it's imminent.
It could happen.
There's a capital.
There's no deal with Hamas.
There is no deal with Hamas.
We do not do deals with terrorists.
This is, you know, the Biden admin, you know, leaning on Israel to negotiate with people who rape women and children and hold them in captivity.
It's disgusting.
And I don't like what they're talking about.
They're talking about getting 50 hostages freed, but they're talking about giving up 200 to 300 Palestinian prisoners.
Not a good deal.
Yeah, just give me a break.
I tell you what, take all the protesters and all the Palestinian marchers, send them over there.
They can help with all the Palestinian efforts.
We'll take all the hostages back and we'll call it a trade.
And yeah, and we'll get to that coming up.
And also, we'll run down a list of the anti-Semites that really need to, something needs to be done about it.
They're at college campuses.
They're all over there on cable news networks.
They're at the UN.
And we'll go over that coming up.
We'll take some calls in a minute.
But I don't have it.
We need a commercial here, but I'll find it.
I'll find it.
And check out my Instagram.
Check out my Instagram.
There's that Trump picture out there.
Just download that.
Send that to the relatives before Thanksgiving.
It's Mark Simone, NYC at Instagram.
We'll be back on the Sean Hannity Show.
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That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So download Verdict with Ted Cruz Now, wherever you get your podcasts.
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon NAFOC from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity today.
Jake Novak, one of the smartest guys in the world.
Nobody better on the subject of Israel.
He's a great columnist, too.
And you read his columns.
Just go to jakenovak.substack.com.
JakeNovak.substack.com.
Jake Novak, how you doing?
I'm doing okay.
Obviously, reeling a little bit from this hostage exchange deal.
But obviously, we have to wait to see how it shakes out.
But I know you're going to want to know what Israel does next with all of this.
Well, I don't like the sound of this at all.
Why would you make a deal with Hamas?
Why would you ever trade for hostages?
Wouldn't that encourage problems in the future?
Yeah, well, before we talk strategy, Mark, you know, clearly this is an example of the secret weapon Hamas and the rest of the world have against Israel.
The secret weapon is Israel's humanity.
You know, I'm sorry, I can't look past that for a second here and understand that when you're fighting a genocidal terrorist organization, of course, how sick is it that Israel is the one that's called genocidal by these crazy protesters here in America?
It's the exact opposite.
But when you're fighting a group like that, you have to ask yourself at what point do you end up becoming more of a killer in your own right?
And when do you give up on the humanity?
And I think that this isn't a great deal, but at the same time, easy for you and me to say that based on, you know, so everyone knows one of the hostages in Israel.
It's a small country.
Everyone knows one of the people who was killed on October 7th.
It's that small a community.
And so I think I understand what's going on there.
Although I do think that there is some strategic advantage to this, and that is we are seeing the war ramping up in the north against Hezbollah, which is a much more powerful and dangerous enemy.
And Israel's had some major successes in the last few days, knocking out some of their people.
And I think that if this hostage, this ceasefire doesn't include a ramping up of the attacks on Fezball and taking them out, then we have a problem.
But if this frees Israel up to do more against Hezbollah in the coming days, then maybe it isn't as bad a strategic move as we all think.
Why do you say Hezbollah is more dangerous?
More people, more weapons?
What's the danger?
Yes, and yes.
They have people, they have more weapons, and the kind of weapons they have.
Now, listen, I am not poo-pooing the rockets that Hamas fires hundreds at a time, which is Israel.
But they're not precision weapons, thank God.
And so they're easier to pick off by the Iron Dome.
Hezbollah, as we know, has more precision weapons.
And Israel has been very proactive in trying to take out those precision weapons to the point that a couple of years ago, they even attacked an office building in Lebanon, which is completely controlled by Hezbollah and Iran.
They used a drone to attack an office building.
And I say an office building, I mean literally one office.
I mean, that's how specific it was because that's where they knew some of the coding was being done.
Some of the engineering was being done with precision missile.
So that's a major, major concern for Israel.
And I'm hoping that this deal has something to do with taking more of those out.
And how does Hezbollah happen to have all this?
Iran, Turkey, who's backing them?
Well, you know, both.
It's mostly Iran, but Iran just can't, you know, we aren't in the days of Star Trek yet where we can use the teleporter, right?
I mean, the sad thing is that the Gulf War, if you want to ask me who won the Gulf War, the answer is Iran.
Iran has a lot of strategic control over Iraq.
And more importantly to them, Iraq has just become the land bridge for them to bring weapons over to Hezbollah with the help of Turkey at times and things like that.
So that's really what happened.
I mean, all of our great soldiers and all of the great guys and women who fought in the Gulf War, for this to be the end result of the war is so sad because Hezbollah and Iran were the real winners.
The Iraqi people didn't get to be the winner in the way that we wanted them to be.
And yeah, it's a land bridge for not only weapons, but also hostages, also other kinds of terrorists.
So that's the answer.
And of course, the money that we gave them, that the Obama administration allowed to go to them.
And I don't want to hear the argument, oh, that was their money.
It's not their money.
If I'm saying a bank robber, you know, that's the money that the bank robbery.
The people who we gave the money to didn't earn those billions and billions of dollars.
That was the regime before.
That was the people of Iran.
That was their natural resource.
The Mullahs in Iran and the terror captains there had nothing to do with the economic promotion of Iran in any way.
Hey, just to be clear on something, for people listening that don't know the whole history, the terrible conditions of the Palestinians, whatever you think, that had nothing to do with Israel.
Israel was not running Gaza, right?
They pulled out in 2007.
Yeah, 2005, but it goes well before that.
For decades and decades before that, the rest of the Arab world, especially the Saudis before they changed course recently and other countries, felt that it was more important to have the Palestinians living in squalor so that it would be a bad PR move.
It would look bad for Israel's PR.
They literally were willing to let their own people live in this horrible conditions rather than help them rather than making sure that the help that Israel wanted to give them got to them for anything other than weapons.
And that's the way it was for decades.
Then when Hamas came around, it got even worse.
Hamas said, no, it's not good enough that our people look bad.
It makes Israel look bad.
They literally need to become weapons.
That's where the whole suicide bombing came from.
They only saw those people as being weapons.
And somebody in Hamas said, why don't we literally make them weapons?
Not just like a PR weapon, but a literal weapon, like cannon plot.
And that's what Hamas has done.
So it's gotten even worse.
It's all been about they hate Israel and they hate the Jews more than they love their own people.
That's what Golda Meir said.
She was right.
That was more than 50 years ago.
This is a literal truth.
And until you understand that, you will not understand the Middle East.
Something else clear, too.
Hamas, these terrorists, they would love to wipe out all the Jews.
They would also love to wipe out all the Christians.
And they'd like to wipe out America, correct?
Yeah, well, they already have wiped out all the Christians.
There's no Christian community to speak of in Gaza.
And of course, now, Bethlehem, which was obviously a Christian city and a Christian city filled with many Christian Arabs, the Christian population of Bethlehem is now down to something like 10% of the city.
Hamas, even though they don't control the West Bank the way that they do in Gaza, but they're very popular in the West Bank, has driven out them as well.
What people don't understand, this isn't just Hamas, this is the truth of the history of any anti-Semitism.
Anti-Semitism, believe it or not, folks, is really not about the Jews.
It's really not about what the Jews believe, what the Jews do.
It's the beginning of people who want to destroy civilization and rules and morality.
And they figured, let's start with the group that a lot of people don't like or don't understand.
And when they don't stand in the way of us killing the Jews, sound like the Nazis, because this is their playbook as well.
And when they don't really stand in the way of us killing the Jews and doing terrible things to them, that will be the end of all of their rules because we'll have shown how weak they really are.
The Nazis killed 6 million Jews.
That was pretty bad.
They killed another 15, 16 million on top of that.
And you couldn't have one without the other.
Hey, we're talking with Jake Novak.
Israel militarily have been very successful every day here.
But as far as tracking down the Hamas leaders who have stolen billions and private jets, they're living in the four seasons in Qatar.
How much progress have they made tracking them down?
Well, they've made a little bit better progress.
I mean, one of the things that's been successful is that they have been more identified.
Who they are and what they're doing is a little bit more familiar to the general public now.
Now, anytime these guys go out to a nice dinner in Qatar, which they do often, it's getting coverage.
And that's positive.
That's a good thing.
We want to see these people living in the lap of luxury because then even their own people, a lot of them are brainwashed, but some of them will see this and get angry.
And that's a good thing.
Let's have some sunshine on the situation here.
As far as what happens to them, you know, I talked to you about this on your own show a couple of weeks ago.
I like the idea of knowing where they are at all times.
I don't like that they're in Qatar and living in lavish conditions, but I like the fact that I know what their address is, and that gives special forces and commando units a good opportunity to do something about it because they ain't going anywhere.
And what happened to Osama bin Laden in the end?
That will happen to each one of them at some point.
I hope so.
I mean, I don't believe in assassination, you know, applauding assassinations, but I will say this.
I'm sick and tired of seeing tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of soldiers or civilians die because there's some unwritten rule about not assassinating political leaders or terrorist leaders or, you know, even if they're elected.
Well, these guys are not really elected.
I'm sick and tired of that.
It's a trade-off we've made for decades, not only with this, but with the Soviets for many years.
Enough's enough.
People are dying so that we play some kind of gentlemanly game.
Listen, we're all aware of anti-Semitism through the years, but what we've seen on the college campuses from the United Nations, you wrote a great column about Susan Sarandon.
Is this shocking you, the extent of this anti-Semitism?
It's not shocking.
It's just disappointing.
You know, like I said, anti-Semitism is really not so much about the Jews.
It's about destroying rules and destroying civility.
And the reason why you have so much anti-Semitism in American college campuses, and by the way, anti-Semitism took root in Germany's universities before it did the government.
All these people, liberals, are like, well, education is the answer to bigotry.
It's not true.
And by the way, don't let anyone ever tell you those universities weren't top-notch.
There were some smart people there, and there's some smart people at our universities now.
But education is not the only answer.
It's clearly not that way.
The reason why you have it is because they are radical.
They've been radicalized since the 1980s.
Even the most liberal colleges had a lot of conservatives and moderates in their tenured faculty in the 1980s going into the early 90s.
But ever since then, this is a 30-year story here.
Ever since then, they've become more and more radical.
And any place that there's radical, whether it's radical right-wing radicalism, crazy far-right, or crazy far-left, anti-Semitism is sure to follow because that is a magnet.
They love having these.
Anti-Semitism is just a great way to bring in the kind of thugs and radicals that you want to do to do your ill-bidden.
That's the way it works.
Wow.
So the Israeli cabinet meeting now, they'll make a decision on this deal.
What would be the best deal they could get as far as hostages?
Well, the best deal would be to try to get as many hot.
I mean, I've heard numbers of like 90 or so or something like that.
Obviously, we want those numbers to go up.
However, we don't know how many are alive.
So the best deal is to get every living person.
The secret weapon the world has and Hamas has against Israel is its humanity.
And that humanity goes beyond death, honoring our dead, you know, a no man left behind, no person left behind.
But I'd like to see that.
Plus, I'd like to see absolutely no pullback in Israeli troops.
They can have a ceasefire, and they can go back to maybe where they're, you know, some of their bases inside Gaza.
But I don't think there should be a pullout.
And there shouldn't be a pullout of any of our Israel has partners in the surveillance of Gaza, including the United States.
U.S. is helping the Israelis pinpoint certain targets.
I don't want to see that turned off either.
So you don't want to see any of those kinds of things be a part of this deal.
That doesn't include, there's no humanitarian argument against that.
Wow.
Well, Jake Novak, great stuff.
You can read his column.
Substack's the best place, right?
Yes, I'm putting everything there for now.
Plus, I have a podcast on there, so everyone check it out.
Yeah, just go to jakenovak.substack.com, jake novak.substack.com.
Jake Novak, thanks for being with us.
Thanks for having me, Mark.
Have a great week, everybody.
All right, take care.
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Hugh, how you doing?
I'm doing great, Mark.
Good afternoon, and happy Thanksgiving to you.
You too.
What do you want to say, Hugh?
Well, I listen to the show as much as I can.
I travel a lot during the day, so I understand a lot of the conservative views that my favorite talk show radio host has.
And I've finally gotten through because I really want to express an opinion that I just don't understand why we're giving Ronna McDaniel such a pass on all the failed policies and the things that she seems to be doing not to unify the party.
And like Sean says, where we put the, we circle each other and we start shooting at each other and we're so divided it makes us look weak.
Yeah.
Well, it's not unusual to change a party chairman or woman going into an election.
Very nice woman, Rhonda McDaniel, but you do have four losing seasons here, the last four election cycles.
We did lose.
The fundraising's not what it should be.
The messaging's not what it should be.
So it's kind of like the New York Giants.
You know, they had some of the nicest guys as coaches.
But after you're in last place a few seasons, I don't care how nice they are.
They got to go.
So you're not wrong about that.
Thanks for calling.
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Rick, what'd you want to say?
Hey, Mark.
How are you?
I just have a real quick question.
I saw yesterday where the presidential debate schedule came out.
Do you think the Justice Department is going to use that to try to make sure the Trump-Biden debate never happens?
Yeah, well, it'll never happen.
Biden will never debate.
I mean, thanks for calling.
It's a good question.
There are, believe it or not, three debates scheduled.
There's a debate commission.
They've already scheduled the three debates for next year.
There are two in October, one in early November.
Three debates.
Now, if it's Biden, he will not debate.
He will not show up for any debate.
More and more, it's looking like it's not going to be Biden.
Somebody else will be the candidate.
So it'll be somebody versus Trump and probably the third-party candidate.
I think the rule is you got to have 15% in the polls to qualify for the debate.
A guy like Bobby Kennedy can do that.
Current polling looks like he could get 17%.
So it could be a third party.
If there's a third-party candidate, the Democrats haven't got a shot.
Bobby Kennedy, every real study shows, takes 75% of his votes from Democrats.
You got to get on the ballot in all 50 states, though.
That costs about $20 million to do that.
But Kennedy's a heck of a fundraiser, so it could happen.
Anyway, we're going to take a break, and we got Bill O'Reilly coming up in the next hour.
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