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Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene - November 20th, Hour 3
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I didn't know much about Marjorie Taylor Greene in the beginning, and I don't know.
There might have been a thing or two that I was critical of.
I don't remember off the top of my head.
Linda, do you remember what it was?
I just...
I can't remember everything from day to day.
Um but I've watched her, you know, really take on a pretty important leadership role within the Republican conference.
Uh she often disagrees with many of her Republican colleagues, holds the line on a lot of conservative issues, and and certainly is is not afraid to do battle uh with her fellow Republicans, which I find admirable.
Uh although at the end of the day, I wish Republicans would understand that they're either either going to win together, and the way you win is stand on principle together, or uh they'll all lose together.
Uh I think there are far too many moderates and rhinos in the conference to get things that I would like done uh finished.
And that makes the job of any speaker and the job of any other conservative member that much harder.
Uh but anyway, she has now come out with her new book, and it's the first book that she's ever written.
It's, you know, MTG, Marjorie Taylor Green, obviously shares the story of her incredible ascension from a small town business owner uh to a top conservative fire brand, and uh she joins us now.
How are you, uh, Congresswoman?
Great to have you.
Hi, son.
Thank you for having me on.
I'm doing well.
Do you remember if I was critical At some point.
I don't know if I might have been.
I don't know remember what it was about.
I think everybody has been at some point.
And and I won't hold you, I won't hold you uh in any any bad light for that because well you see the media created a character of me that doesn't exist, and that's the character they sold to everybody.
Um and that was part of why I wrote this book, MTG, is to let people know who I really am, the views that I have and the policies that I think are so important for our country.
And by the way, she has a website, MTG Book dot com, Amazon.com, uh Hannity.com, bookstores around the country if you're interested.
So I want to talk about this this experience of yours.
What I'm most fear about this current Republican conference is there are way too many moderates that are part of the conference.
For example, Speaker Johnson tries to get a deal done, and and Kevin McCarthy, I think, in his own way tried to get a similar deal done, uh, as it relates to cutting spending and securing our borders.
And you have moderate Republicans in these districts that Joe Biden won.
So they're gonna have a very hard time of reelection, but they're thinking about their reelection, and I think you should never make that a priority as a congressman or woman.
Uh however, it is making it nearly impossible for Republicans to to unite behind what I think should be fundamental Republican principles about spending, about energy, about border security, etc.
Am I right in my analysis?
How are there too many moderate Rhino Republicans in the conference?
Yes, absolutely.
But I would also say, and I'm a conservative, I have a 100 on my conservative review scorecard.
So people need to understand exactly the type of Republican I am.
I would also argue that not only do we have rhinos and and moderates that refuse to do good conservative issues and bills and pass amendments.
We also have some that are on the far right of our conference that are unwilling uh to maybe come a little bit closer and work and and make good deals that are actually good for our whole conference, but also good for the country.
Um we have to cut spending.
That that is an absolute priority, but let's be honest, Sean, and you know this so well, we can't accomplish anything until we have the White House because we don't control the Senate, we don't control the White House.
So our I'm I I beg to differ a little because on the issue of budget, no president, no White House can spend a penny without the approval of Congress.
If Republicans held the line, for example, I was for many years I was a supporter of Connie Mack.
He was a congressman from Florida, and he had the penny plan.
And that would cut one penny out of every dollar the government spent, do it every year for seven years, and you'd balance the budget.
We have not balanced the budget since Newt Gingrich was speaker.
He did it four years in a row.
And I think it's time for Republicans to stand strong on that.
I think if they held the line, they'd win.
I think the American people would see, wait a minute, we're paying a trillion dollars annually now in debt.
We you know, that's right out of the box before you spend one penny on any government program, including defense.
Well, we have to, and that's why inflation is so high and it's crushing Americans.
A senior citizens in my district can't even afford groceries or medication uh and rent.
No, we have to cut spending and the penny plan and a balanced budget is the only thing that makes sense, and I say that as a very successful business owner.
It's the only thing that makes sense.
But we we do have different arguments in our conference, and we have a three-seat majority soon to probably be a two-seat majority, and we're in trouble.
And we owe the American people to do a much better job, and that means we have to work out our differences because the real enemy is the Democrats, Sean.
We know what they're doing to our country, um, and we need to hold them accountable for it.
And that's why I tried to impeach uh Secretary Mayorcis um after two of my constituents were killed when a 17-year-old cartel member was smuggling illegal aliens into our country.
And um I I think we need to do better, and we need to set the standard for what Republicans can do under a President Trump's White House, uh, hopefully in in 2025.
Yeah, well, I hope so.
So where do you see that there might be a lane where Republicans can at least score some victories?
I think we can score victories by by doing what we promised the American people.
You know, I serve on the Oversight Committee, and I wrote about this in my book as our is our inquiry into the Biden crime family.
And this is something that you've covered extensively, I know, and you've done a great job at it.
Um, but the Bidens are guilty.
They are absolutely guilty, and we have to continue our work on oversight.
We have some very big subpoenas we've sent out.
We've Hunter Biden, uh, Jim Biden, um, and and several of Hunter's business partners.
We need to bring them in and ask them the hard questions because we have the bank statements and we have checks that were written to Joe Biden in a pure money laundering scheme.
This is what the American people know.
We need to continue that accountability and hold that, hold them accountable for how they have sold out America through Joe Biden's power.
Other things that we need to do is we gotta pass our appropriation bills one at a time, and we need to do whatever it takes to get those bills passed, pushed over to the Senate, and and stand and hold the line and force Chuck Schumer.
Um, this is what we're giving you, you need to get to work on it, and let's get these things passed, and Joe Biden needs to sign them.
So I think that we have a lot to do, but what we what we need to stop doing is is there's an unfortunate thing happening in our conference, and it's it I call it revenge voting.
People don't want to vote for an amendment or a resolution or a bill simply because they don't like the name of the Republican that's on that bill or amendment.
That's petty.
Um we can't do that.
We've got to vote on the issues, and we need to do a good job.
Wait, how do you thread that needle?
How do Republicans uh the the more moderate rhino Republicans and conservative Republicans, where is the middle ground where they say this is our line in the sand, and when this bill gets destroyed in the Senate, which they will do, and you go to conference that that the whole conference is gonna stand together because you don't really have much of a margin, and we're not gonna give in.
Is there is there a is there a is there a way to thread that needle?
On the border, we passed HR2.
And our comp by the way, that's a great bill.
I agree.
That's right.
That would be one worth fighting for.
That is one worth fighting for.
If we fight for anything, I believe that's the one to fight for, and we have to cut spending.
It has to happen because we are crippled and we are being crushed under debt um to the point where uh our our our interest is is is unaffordable, is going to be unaffordable in the near future.
Another one that we need to fight for is making sure that we get our majority back, and I'll tell you why, Sean, and you'll understand this so quickly.
The tax code expires at the end of 2024, and whichever party controls the House of Representatives in January of 2025 will be writing the tax code.
And in my eyes, that's one of the most dangerous things we have coming in the future.
Um we're talking about if the Democrats control the House, we are looking at a major increase in taxes across the board, and they will uh raise the death tax, which will wipe out generational wealth, family farms, small businesses.
This is this is something that is very scary that hardly anyone is talking about.
Um, and and I'm I'm hoping to raise the issue today with you because it's so important.
I talk about taxes in my book, MTG, because I'm a successful business owner um and a small business owner, and and I believe that our country has taxed us enough.
We don't have a revenue problem in Washington, we have a spending problem.
Um but looking ahead in the future, this is this is one of those cliffs that we could easily fall off if we aren't keeping our eye on the ball and making sure that we keep our majority.
Let me ask you I'm only asking because there was so much press about it, and that was this little skirmish running you might have had with Lauren Boebert of Colorado.
And has that been resolved?
Was it was it the way the media portrayed it, or is it very different?
You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
It's a very unfortunate situation.
Lauren Beaubert was someone that I tried to befriend.
Um I even donated to her campaign, uh, supported her.
I had defended her when she got attacked.
She and I have very similar voting records, so there's no reason why we shouldn't be friends.
Um but there comes to a point where, you know, I can only take being stabbed in the back and also The front and lied about uh so many times by her.
And so we had a we had a private conversation that took place on the house floor.
No one else heard it but she and I. Um, but she turned and she went to the press and leaked to what I said uh to the press it so quickly that as soon as I walked off the house floor, I found out because I got swarmed by the press and they knew exactly what I had said to her.
And you know, these are the kinds of things that I consider extremely unprofessional.
Uh, you know, such as her behavior about lying about her votes, lying about missing votes, and you know, vaping in front of a pregnant woman in a movie theater and groping her date.
These are all things that I I don't think are uh very becoming of a member of Congress, and I I'm willing to be vocal about that.
Uh and she's got a r uh a Republican seat that she's on the verge of losing due to our due to her behavior, um, and due to things that her constituents just can't tolerate.
Uh we need our majority, and we need members of Congress that are willing to conduct themselves in a way um that is becoming of of the the seat of Congress.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia, Congresswoman from Georgia on the other side.
Her brand new book, MTG, is now out.
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We continue now with Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green.
Her new book is out, MTG.
You can get it at her website, MC MTG Book.com, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores now around the country.
See, I don't expect that Republicans can win a lot of battles, but I do believe that you have a couple of leverage points.
One is, you know, Joe Biden just uh obsessively wants this Ukraine money.
Maybe there's a compromise there, not anything near what he's asking, obviously, because they've already spent nearly eighty billion dollars on Ukraine.
Um, but maybe there's a way there to offer a little bit of money in exchange for money for border security or for Joe to at least enforce the laws.
That might be an avenue.
Um I I think on the issue of the budgetary issues, I think Republicans are just gonna have to go out and inform the American people we can't afford it anymore.
And what we're asking for is a significant reduction in the amount of government spending and make the case.
And and at that point, uh, you know, any shutdown will be on the Democrats, not on not on House members, in my view.
Oh, I I completely agree.
We can't afford it.
And the American people are are yelling about it.
They can't afford it.
Credit card debt is at an all-time high, uh, you know, and here we have mortgage rates that are uh eight percent and and higher.
Um this is coming at a time where many baby boomers are on the verge of selling their homes and the millennials and the and the younger generations aren't even gonna be able to buy houses because the baby boomers are downsizing into smaller homes and and they're sucking up all the homes in the market.
Um everything is upside down and and inside out, and you're absolutely right.
Republicans have to hold the line and just say we flat out we cannot ignore it.
Uh we cannot, we we cannot afford this.
And then we're fighting the Biden administration who wants to raise taxes and and is bragging about Bidenomics.
Um so it comes to just fighting it out.
We have to fight it out with them.
Audrey Taylor Green, Congresswoman, great state of Georgia, her new book, MTG.
She has a website, MTG Book.com, also available on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country.
Congresswoman, I'm sure we'll talk a lot more as the next year unfolds.
Thank you for being with us.
Good luck with your book tour.
Thank you so much, Sean.
I appreciate being on your show today.
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Uh, it is interesting when you have to watch even NBC News going through Joe Biden's low poll numbers.
We do have a new hot Havid Harris poll showing Trump is leading Biden by seven points.
There's a complete freak out.
I mentioned a lot of this earlier, uh, as his approval rating is now sunk to an all-time low in the MBC poll.
Uh, and David Axelrod saying that, you know, Biden's chances of getting re-elected would be worse than 5050.
So that that battle is con I guess they didn't like the P word that was used by Joe Biden against them.
Let's check in with even MBC News discussing the obvious that uh Donald Trump, who they are obsessed over 24-7, is now kicking Joe Biden's ass.
Let's start with the bottom line here.
President Biden, what is his job approval rating?
We measure it now at 40% with 57% disapproving the significance.
That is the lowest president Biden has ever measured in our poll in terms of job approval, and just look at the sea change from the start of this year.
Remember, early this year, Democrats coming off a strong 2022 midterm.
He was almost even.
Now he's 17 points underwater on this question.
Significant dip there, Steve.
It is, and you can actually, if you take a look here by party, I think it's significant for two reasons.
One independence, obviously, more than two to one disapprove.
You don't want to be there as an incumbent president, but I think equally significant, no surprise.
7% of Republicans approve of Joe Biden's job performance, but three times as many Democrats, 21%, that's more than one in five, say they disapprove.
You need much more unified support in your own party if you're gonna have a successful reelection campaign.
So if we are heading towards Trump, Biden, a rematch in 2024, how does that look in our polling right now?
Here it is.
Donald Trump, we have at 46%, Biden, 44.
And this is significant because this is the first time in the history of our poll that former President Trump beats President Biden, still within the margin of error, but still significant.
Yeah, it's 2019, 2020 when Trump was president.
He trailed all of them.
This year he's trailed all of them in our poll.
First time in more than a dozen polls, we've seen a result like this.
Some of the other ingredients that go into that, Biden has long had an advantage over Trump on likability.
Look at the start of this year, 39% said they have positive view of Biden, barely 30 of Trump.
We've seen consistently a gap like this now.
The gap is gone.
36 positive on both, and actually Biden, one point more negative than Trump.
That's been a significant advantage for Biden.
Our poll says that advantage, at least for now, may be gone.
And we talked about younger voters on foreign policy, and it's true on a host of other topics.
Disaffected with Joe Biden.
We have 46% for Trump, 42% for Biden among the youngest voters, the youngest voters in the 2020 election were Biden plus 26.
This could be a massive sea change.
And that didn't even include, by the way, the new Harvard Harris poll that has Trump leading Biden by seven.
Um, you know, if you want to know the reason why, I mean, maybe we could just go to this weekend and and last week.
You know, all the blunders that he made during the Apex Summit.
Now, this if somebody put it out with music, I'm not sure who.
Um, I like kids better than people, which is Joe being creepy Joe again.
I wish I could watch Wonka with you, but I can't.
Then Joe confusing Taylor Swift and Brittany Spears at the Turkey Pardoning event.
That didn't exactly go over Well, um, you know, there was this weird moment, the Washington Times captured it, you know, dusting off the creepy Joe tag after the this bizarre interaction with this young girl at a public event, you know, and Biden approaches the young girl and says, I love your ears.
I'm not making any of this up.
Let me play it.
I love your ears.
I love them.
They're really cool.
What you need.
Catherine, what a beautiful name.
My mommy's how old are you?
17 You just can't make this Adam Schiff up.
You just you can't.
It's so bad.
And people, well, why is he down in the polls?
Well, that is a pretty good reason.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Bill in Texas.
Bill, how are you?
Glad you called, sir, the free state of Texas.
Always great to hear from our friends down there.
Sean, you're a great American.
It's always uh aspiration of mine to talk to you.
Well, thank you, my friend.
Boy, we got to raise the bar a little bit in in your aspirations in life, but uh, I'm honored.
I'm glad you're out there.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
I used to watch you back when you used to wrestle with Alan Combs every night.
Anyway.
Man, I haven't changed except my hair is a little bit whiter.
Yeah, yeah, it looks good on you, man.
Look.
Thank you.
I love to engage my radical liberal friends because after some time and some conversation, they tend to normally start leaning to my side.
And I started to talk to one of them last weekend about coming up with some conservative articles of confederation.
And she just launched when I said that.
Well, you're just a confederate.
And I and I go, well, you know, Confederation's just an association of people with that are on the same page.
You know, and but she's trying to basically say you support the Confederacy and you're a racist jackass.
Is that the comment?
Well, that was basically the comment, sure.
And I explained to her, no, and uh confederation is what a a real confederation is, and she understood that part.
And I said, Maybe we should come up with some articles confederation, the first of which being words mean things.
You know, Rush used to say that all the time.
That was one of his big deals.
Words mean things.
Context matters.
And it matters a lot to people that seek the truth.
It doesn't matter to those that want to lie, uh the way the left lies about conservatives in this country, but I mean, they may uh it's almost a full-time job.
I actually think at this point, having done this as long as I have, that they believe the lies they tell about conservatives and about Republicans because they repeat them often enough that I think they've come to believe their own lies.
And therein lies the rub, doesn't it?
Because, you know, if you go to Saulinski's book, Rules for Radicals, they teach you if you repeat the same lie long enough, it'll become part of the vernacular vernacular to become part of c common knowledge.
They do it all the time.
And and so lying, you know, they'll tell you there was there was no um election interference in 2020.
There was no fraud in the election.
And then when you call them on it and you show them where the fraud was, they say, Well, but I think that if we we got it, we stay on point.
And your interview with uh Marjorie Taylor Green was perfect because she's one of those people that will just and she's it's a very strong-willed woman who is making a difference, and hopefully she'll be able to continue to do that, and we all can.
You know what one of the problems with Republicans are?
Democrats circle the wagons.
I say this all the time.
And Republicans, they create circular firing squads.
Right now in the House, for them to have any success, they've got to be united.
They there's no room, no margin for error.
And that means they need to check their egos and their phones at the door, and they need to come up with strategies that would advance their agenda.
There are wins to be had that are on the table.
Securing our borders would be one spending would be a second one.
They certainly can have a deep impact if they just would unite.
It's like that scene in Braveheart.
You know, um Sir William Wallace saying, Unite us, unite us.
I'm trying to say to these people don't leave the room until you're united on something that everybody's gonna stand strong on.
And and frankly, that's where they're at right now.
Otherwise, uh you know, they're only one half of one branch of government right now.
And so they don't really have a lot of power, but there's enough that they could have an impact on at least three issues in my view.
Borders, energy, and spending what the left has done with our borders, what they have done with foreign policy, what they have done with energy, uh what they have done with reckless spending and two trillion in debt, what they have done with inflation, um what they I I mean how I can't think of a single thing that they've done that is correct that has made the country better that is that has made our lives better.
So that that's not a you know and then they wonder why Joe Biden's approval ratings suck because he's been a horrible president.
You know Rosalind Carter passed away over the weekend.
One thing I will say about the Carters is as people they seem like really nice people.
He was the up until Joe Biden he was the worst president of modern times.
And I'm sorry that he lost his wife I'm not I don't want to say anything bad about him since he lost his wife but they were they they seem to be nice people that just believed all the wrong things.
I don't really feel that way about Joe Biden well you can't and what we need to do is line up behind Speaker Johnson and you know just go full steam ahead.
That's that's on all these issues and and because we do have on our side and you know uh not for nothing but we got God on our side and um it makes a difference and people are I think this whole country pounded on Judeo Christian principles has been a gift from God uh but if you keep kicking kicking God out of institution after institution uh I think you'll get the message that he's not wanted and you know what but he is wanted by many Americans.
I know there are many faithful Americans that that know how blessed we are and that as Reagan said you know freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
I hope we don't lose it on our watch.
That would be a complete failure in our lives.
Anyway, my friend, I'm going to move on.
Angel, South Carolina.
What's up, Angel?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
How are you?
Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank you, my friend.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Yes, sir.
Two items.
Two items.
You should start putting on some Argentinian boots and go for it four years from now.
That's number one.
I'd rather stay in America, just in a different state.
No, no.
You would be here.
uh a great precedent anyways um I think the Republicans are are missing a point and they don't they don't uh they don't talk about it as much they stop at uh get the border fixed they can't fix the border they won't the Democrats are not gonna fix it it's a matter of policy they always they always blame the Congress right so uh this is their strategy.
I'm a numbers man.
I'm an engineer, but, you know, it's very simple for me to look at the numbers, how they go.
At the very beginning of the Biden administration, they said that they would allow like about six to eight million migrants, illegal migrants or migrants.
Now, if you take illegal immigrants, we call them accurately on this program.
Go ahead.
OK, there you go.
That's why you have to be a president, man.
OK, so anyways, those eight eight illegal immigrants.
Right.
So eight million.
I'm sorry.
If you take if you take the four percent that that the difference of four percent that now Trump is is ahead of Biden, if you take four percent of one hundred and seventy million votes like last year that were I think it was about 20 about.
We're just running out of time.
Get to your final point.
What do you want to say?
If you take that and take four percent of that, that's 70 million.
That's all they need.
And they are going to they wanted eight million.
They're not going to stop until they get the eight million voters and they're going to stop.
They're going to cheat with those eight millions.
They're going to stop the ballots at the purple states and they're going to win again.
So listen, they're they're definitely, I think, integrity measures to election.
We need absolutely voter I.D., signature verification, verification, chain of custody controls, updated verification.
voter roles only legal citizens should be allowed to vote, although in local elections in states like New York, illegals can vote.
And then you need partisan observers watching the voting and the vote counting.
That's gotta happen.
Otherwise, how do you have integrity in the system and how does everybody have confidence in the results?
I've been saying this now, going back for years.
I hope people are listening.
Appreciate the call.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
And uh we have one more day tomorrow, and that's about it for me.
Um, hopefully, unless all hell breaks loose throughout the world, which by the way is not beyond the realm of possibility in the news business.
Uh, but I'll say it today, I'll say it tomorrow too.
I want to wish you and your family the happiest of Thanksgivings and wish you all, you know, all of God's blessings.
May his face shine upon all of you, and thank you for making the show possible.
And I hope over Thanksgiving, while we while we remember all of our blessings, we pray for those that are suffering right now, including our friends in Israel that are now in a war for their very survival.
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