Nov. 17, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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| Hi Scott Shannon and hour two, Sean Hannity Show. | |
| Thanks for being with us. | |
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| It's 800-941 Sean. | |
| If you want to be a part of the program, we are in beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, Music City, uh, for tonight's Fox Nation Awards and the Patriot Awards. | |
| Uh some of the people that they honor are just unbelievable. | |
| Just really pleased and proud to be a part of it. | |
| And I I it's just such a different place. | |
| You like you like you've ended entered America circa 1950 again, where kinda is normal. | |
| I guess I'm so used to the insanity that is that is New York and all these big cities, unfortunately, that I've been stuck in. | |
| Uh it's nice to see people say, out of nowhere. | |
| How you how you doing? | |
| Nice to talk to you. | |
| Have a good day. | |
| I mean, it's kind of crazy. | |
| Um, but anyway, uh, we welcome back to the program, former Vice President Mike Pence, uh, and his daughter, by the way, Charlotte Pence Bond is with us. | |
| They they have a new book out together. | |
| It's Go Home for Dinner. | |
| Advice on how faith makes a family a family. | |
| Uh uh hang on. | |
| How it advice go home for dinner, advice on how faith makes a family and a family makes a life. | |
| It's you know, terrific. | |
| It's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, and bookstores all around the country. | |
| Uh, Mr. Vice President and Charlotte Penns Bond, how are you? | |
| Just great, Sean. | |
| Thanks for having us on today. | |
| You know, you you come from Indiana, so I think, and you've traveled the country and you've traveled the world. | |
| Uh I've had you in studio in New York. | |
| I mean, what is it like for a guy from Indiana to end up in New York, San Francisco, Chicago, and some of the worst parts of the country, and then go back home to Indiana. | |
| You know, it's like going back down home where people are just a lot different. | |
| It's it's amazing, isn't it? | |
| Well, it's one of the great things about uh, you know, I I I had hope for a better outcome in my campaign for president, but I don't regret a minute of it because traveling all across this country, just like you're experiencing today in Nashville, uh, before the Patriot Awards is uh, you know, this this is a country of good, decent, hardworking, uh idealistic, uh generous and kind people and uh uh you know, all the travels that have taken us around the country. | |
| My my daughter lives on the West Coast where she and her husband are are stationed in the military, but uh it's always great to be back home to the heartland and uh it's fun to hear you get a breath of that today in Nashville. | |
| Well, you may not know this, but if you go down 65 out of Nashville uh South into Alabama, there is an exit. | |
| It has a cracker barrel, which I fell in love with when I was in the South. | |
| You know, I spent a lot of years, you know, travel around the world as a as uh in my radio career. | |
| And anyway, you I arrived in Athens, Alabama, my first professional radio gig in 1990. | |
| Now, the town, the the all of a sudden um here's a guy with a thick New York accent. | |
| How you doing? | |
| Welcome to Talk Radio, the Sean Hannity show. | |
| And people, Sean, how you doing, man? | |
| Welcome to Huntsville, because it's right next to Huntsville, it's a Huntsville market. | |
| And I'm like, how you doing? | |
| Good to talk to you. | |
| You man, you talk funny, they'd say. | |
| But it made it kind of made me notorious in a way. | |
| And you know, when I left two years later to spend four great years in Atlanta, uh they they did editorialize goodbye to the talk show hosts from hell. | |
| I I I actually had it framed. | |
| I was so proud of that. | |
| I guess I've made I guess I had an impact on the market, right? | |
| I'm still here, I'm still doing it. | |
| Well, we're proud and grateful for your career. | |
| And uh, you know, I spent a some of those early years for you. | |
| I was I was working in uh small town Indiana talk radio. | |
| But uh by the way, you you did a great job on talk radio. | |
| You had a very successful run at it. | |
| Um I know people knew you as a congressman, as governor, as vice president for four years. | |
| I mean, what a journey you've been on. | |
| And well, let me ask you, I'm I know because I also talked to Tim Scott this week. | |
| I spoke to you privately this week. | |
| I won't divulge the nature of the conversation, but we've known each other so many years. | |
| And you know, as vice president, I'll never forget I was having a a pretty tough time, and it was in the public, and and you you pick up a phone, you're the vice president of our country, and you just call to say, hey, I'm praying for you, thinking about you. | |
| If I could ever do anything, let me know. | |
| And I'm like, why would the vice president ever think of calling me? | |
| Um and it meant a lot to me. | |
| Well, you you're very kind, Sean, but I'm I'm sure that there are millions of people around the country. | |
| If they had your number, they'd have called you too. | |
| And in lots of different circumstances. | |
| We're just we're just a family that appreciates you, appreciates who you are, and appreciates your voice out there. | |
| But I will tell you, you know, as I said, uh, you know, we we came to the conclusion, as my friend Tim Scott did a couple of days ago, uh, that this was not my time, but uh to get out across this country to spend time with the American people. | |
| Uh it it really did uh uh renew my my faith in the people of this country and uh uh in my determination, uh, whatever the future holds for me and my family that we're gonna continue to fight for all the same conservative values that that have defined your career and have defined our years of service. | |
| You know, it's an amazing thing. | |
| You're right about one thing. | |
| It's you know, if we talk about making America great and making America great again, and the four years, the great what I thought was a great partnership with you and President Trump. | |
| Um I uh it's it's kind of sad to me that it didn't end well because everything else did pretty much go well. | |
| Uh certainly dealing with COVID, the last two years of your administration. | |
| You know, we we've never faced a pandemic like that in a hundred years, uh made things very complicated, very expensive, very difficult, very controversial. | |
| Uh, but at the end of the day, those policies, those conservative policies that we hold near and dear, when they are implemented, you did it as a congressman, you did it as a governor, you did it as vice president, and the country and the people were better off. | |
| You know, we now have sixty percent plus of American citizens living paycheck to paycheck. | |
| We have people getting bare necessities and having to put things on their credit card, you know, at 21% interest rates. | |
| Uh we're now paying nearly double what we paid for a gallon of gasoline when you were vice president. | |
| Uh our borders were secure. | |
| They're wide open. | |
| Eight million people came into this country, and I'm sure among them are people that have nefarious intentions for the American people. | |
| They have there's been no vetting, no background checks. | |
| There's no stay in Mexico policy, there's no building of any wall. | |
| And it's just sad to me that we've gone backwards, never mind, you know, uh the Joe Biden, I believe, abdicating our role on the world stage as the the leading country for the force of freedom. | |
| Well, look, uh you're you know, I'm I'm incredibly proud of the record of the Trump Pence administration, and uh I'll say that for the rest of my life. | |
| And and as you said, it did not end the way we wanted it to, but uh uh every single day before that we left America stronger and and more prosperous. | |
| But I I would tell you, I'm I'm just very confident that uh the American people looking at the way Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad are gonna give us a fresh start. | |
| And um, you know, we haven't decided what if any role that we'll we'll play in that public debate going forward. | |
| But I I just have great confidence in the people of this country. | |
| But you know, this book my daughter and I came out with. | |
| I we started writing about a year ago, but it ends up being almost providential timing for us. | |
| I I wouldn't have uh I wouldn't have scheduled a book a few weeks after we suspended our presidential campaign uh on purpose. | |
| Uh but uh it was a book that I was inspired uh to write after word of my autobiography became public. | |
| Um because a friend came up to me, Sean, and said, you know, I'm looking forward to reading the story of your political career and your service. | |
| But he said the story I really want to read is how do you have a family like you and Karen have? | |
| Um living the life that you've lived, and that's where Go Home for Dinner was born, because we've we've tried to put into practice some basic principles that uh that I think are common to uh to to every family in the country that's been able to thrive in these uncertain times. | |
| And uh I uh I'm someone that believes that the faith and families of this country are the ultimate wellspring of our strengths. | |
| So we hope this little book is an encouragement to people. | |
| Yeah, and by the way, Charlotte, I promise you I'm not ignoring you. | |
| I just wanted to get a couple of political questions into your dad, which I I uh I knew you knew about ahead of time. | |
| Um here's my first question. | |
| Cause I think I know your dad, and I know your mom really well, but I'm just curious. | |
| Who is the tougher parent? | |
| Who is the b disciplinarian? | |
| Was it mom or dad? | |
| Um you know, I don't know. | |
| They're kind of equal, but I think um I think my mom is definitely uh, you know, she's she's uh she's I don't I don't know. | |
| She's we call her a hummingbird because she just kind of um she just goes and goes and goes and goes. | |
| So I think uh both of them I I try to emulate, but um I think my mom and I are are similar. | |
| I hope in that in that way, and she that's actually in the book. | |
| We have a uh chapter all about her. | |
| So really, so it's funny what I'll do, Charlotte, when I when I have a couple around me and their kids are there, uh I'll go to their kids. | |
| All right, let me ask you a question. | |
| Um who gives you more junk food? | |
| Mom or dad? | |
| And then the parents, you know, every time they're like on edge, uh it's me being a talk show host. | |
| I can't help myself. | |
| And you know, then the kid will give an answer, oh definitely dad. | |
| Who spoils you more, mom or dad? | |
| You know, and they'll give the answer. | |
| Uh and then I'll ask a couple other questions like, okay, who's scarier when they get mad? | |
| Mom or dad? | |
| Uh and then the last question is easy. | |
| Who's better looking? | |
| Mom or dad? | |
| Nobody's ever messed up that question. | |
| Um but it it's gotta be hard when your dad is in the public eye. | |
| And and you know, the fact that he's criticized all of us in the public eye. | |
| That's it goes with the territory. | |
| Um I've experienced it my entire career. | |
| Uh I am grateful that both my children are kind of numb to it. | |
| They don't even care. | |
| I asked my daughter maybe six months ago what time my radio show is on, and she gave said, um the three. | |
| She didn't even know. | |
| And that's and that actually made me happy that she didn't really know because she doesn't follow or read the stuff about her dad. | |
| Well, did it ever become hard for you to read things about your dad or things that are said about your dad or maybe things you watch on TV. | |
| Um, you know, I I think that it it's always kinda hard. | |
| I mean, obviously somebody's people are talking negatively about your uh, you know, your loved one. | |
| But at the end of the day, I mean, I I feel like, you know, I'm I'm I'm not a victim. | |
| I mean, my my parents didn't raise me to think of myself that way. | |
| I mean, you're in public life, um, your family's in public life, and you're gonna have you know, have things happen and have have people say nasty things and you just have to kind of move on. | |
| I think it inspires you to not make it your whole life, not to be so susceptible to um, you know, other people's opinions on Twitter. | |
| Um just kind of leave leave the Twitter sphere and and get back to your real life and uh I think it just encourages you to do that more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| All right, quick break. | |
| We'll come back more with former vice president uh Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Pence Mond, uh, the new book Go Home for Dinner. | |
| Uh, you can get it at Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores all around the country. | |
| More with them on the other side than your calls, 800-941 Sean, our number, as we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, for tonight's Patriot Awards. | |
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| What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. | |
| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? | |
| Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. | |
| It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. | |
| Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? | |
| Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. | |
| We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. | |
| You put two and two together. | |
| Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? | |
| Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. | |
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| What difference at this point does it make? | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| Locker up. | |
| Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. | |
| Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm. | |
| And I'm Carol Markowitz. | |
| We've been in political media for a long time. | |
| Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. | |
| That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. | |
| We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. | |
| We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. | |
| So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass. | |
| You're our kind of people. | |
| Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. | |
| I'm Ben Ferguson. | |
| And I'm Ted Cruz. | |
| Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. | |
| Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. | |
| Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. | |
| And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. | |
| We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. | |
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| What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi. | |
| Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why? | |
| Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies. | |
| It's almost a dirty word. | |
| One that connotes conspiracy theory. | |
| Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? | |
| Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. | |
| We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. | |
| You put two and two together. | |
| Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? | |
| Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. | |
| I'm Leon Mayfock from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. | |
| This is Fiasco Benghazi. | |
| What difference at this point does it make? | |
| Yeah, that's right. | |
| Locker up. | |
| Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. | |
| All right, we continue with former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Pence Bond, and they have their new book out, Go Home for Dinner, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores now all around the country. | |
| I I took I read the title of the book and and Charlotte, I'll let you answer first because your dad gets to answer a lot more than you do. | |
| Um and it's Go Home for Dinner and advice on how faith makes a family and a family makes a life. | |
| And and I think back to my own life as both as a kid and and raising my own kids. | |
| Um I'm I'm now in my 28th year on the Fox News channel. | |
| Every year of their life growing up, I was at work. | |
| I was not home for family dinners. | |
| Now we did make we always had family dinner on weekends. | |
| And I always did a special day with my daughter. | |
| We called a Daddy Daughter Day, and that consisted of her picking one store, anyone she wanted, and she can go buy whatever she wanted in that one store, and she had 10 minutes to do it because I hate to go shopping. | |
| And then the second part of it was that she would pick wherever we're gonna eat, and for 10 years of my life, she chose Subway. | |
| And I don't like I'm not the biggest subway fan. | |
| Uh that and Daddy Sunday was we go buy all guy food, we cook it together, and then we watch football. | |
| That was Daddy Sunday. | |
| So you know, think back what did these family dinners mean to you because your dad was home a lot more than I was home. | |
| Well, you know, uh, we kind of talked about in the book really just how it, you know, obviously not everybody can be home for dinner, especially not every night. | |
| Um the idea is really the sentiment behind it, kind of what you described a little bit, just being there for your family, letting them know that you're you're there for them, that you put them first. | |
| Um, I think that that was always communicated to me as a kid. | |
| I don't think um that I was ever, you know, thinking, oh my God, you know, doesn't want to hang out with me. | |
| He wants to go to work, he wants to go be doing that. | |
| Um I never felt that way. | |
| And I know that that was I know now that was very intentional on the parts of my parents. | |
| So I think family dinners, of course, but we talked about having a family night um, you know, once a week. | |
| We did that on Friday nights, um, where our family would hang out together, and we kind of did a little Bible lesson when we were little kids, and it was just a way to to kind of get together at the end of the week. | |
| So there are different ways people can do it. | |
| I mean, my husband's in the military, so he's he's not home for dinner a lot of nights. | |
| So there are definitely other ways you can live this out. | |
| All right, quick break. | |
| We'll come back more with former vice president uh Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Pence Mond. | |
| Uh, the new book, Go Home for Dinner. | |
| Uh, you can get it at Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores all around the country. | |
| More with them on the other side than your calls, 800-941 Sean, our number as we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. | |
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| All right, a few short minutes uh left, and we'll get to your phone calls right after this with former Vice President Mike Pence, his daughter Charlotte Pence Bond. | |
| Uh the new book is out, go home for dinner, and it's on Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country. | |
| Let me ask you this. | |
| Um now in this in the book, and maybe Mr. Vice President, you can describe this, that when you were young and you had family dinners, the kids were not allowed to talk. | |
| I found that to be very interesting. | |
| Well, I don't know, I don't know how it was when you were growing up, but uh when when we were young kids uh growing up at a little house on thirty-first street in in a small town in Indiana, it was uh you know what? | |
| Uh you'd you'd hear uh mom or dad call out the back door at the end of the day, you knew you'd need to come in, get cleaned up, uh, put on a presentable shirt, be at the dinner table, and you you're right, kids were seen and not heard back then. | |
| Uh but uh no, my mom was a prison guard working sixteen hour shifts every day. | |
| Uh my dinner was whatever I got at the Delhi or the local pizza place. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And and you know, it's it's uh for us it was you know, but it was a time for us to really observe my three brothers and two sisters really observe our parents to listen in on the periphery, and then the older that we got, teenage years, then you're in on the conversation. | |
| And to me, that's the the principle behind uh our book, Go Home for Dinner is just it's it's about making a decision uh uh and and often times you know, for us it's grounded in our faith to just simply put our family first because it doesn't just happen. | |
| I mean, the reason you have the kind of great relationship you have with your kids uh is because you're intentional about it, just like you were describing those special days. | |
| We got a whole chapter entitled Take Your Daughter to Breakfast, with where Charlotte and I recount how from the time she was five years old we established the habit of of taking her I took her out to breakfast on her birthday every year, and uh uh and the day that she got married uh at the at the vice president's residence in Washington DC, | |
| I stood up with uh with with tears in my eyes, and uh uh I I told her new husband that he was now the man in her life, and there was one thing for certain that he had to do, and that was he needed to take her to breakfast on her birthday. | |
| And uh I was expecting him to do it. | |
| And so it's just those uh those little deposits that we make in in the lives of uh uh of our our kids of our spouses, where they see the continuity and the consistency that's really at the core of Go Home for Dinner. | |
| It's made some difference in our life. | |
| Let me let me just remind everybody it's called Go Home for Dinner Advice on How Faith Makes a Family and a Family Makes a Life. | |
| Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores around the country, and by the way, perfect time to read it heading into Thanksgiving next week and the Christmas season. | |
| Uh anyway, I really enjoyed having you back on, Mr. Vice President. | |
| Uh look forward to more conversations in the future. | |
| Charlotte Pence Bond, God bless you too and your young kids. | |
| Thanks, Sean. | |
| All right, appreciate it. | |
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| Uh Steve in Pennsylvania. | |
| What's up, Steve? | |
| How are you, my friend? | |
| Sean Hennedy, great to talk to you. | |
| It's an honor. | |
| The honor's all mine. | |
| Welcome to beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. | |
| Guess what? | |
| Tennessee has no income tax. | |
| Anyone that gets income taxes smart. | |
| That pays no income tax is smart. | |
| Amen on that one, sir. | |
| What's going on? | |
| Uh the reason why I'm calling it, I've been talking to a lot of my Republican buddies, and we're trying to figure out together since we're in control as far as the major party of the uh Congress. | |
| How how do how do we stop from our taxpayers' money going to terrorists such as Iran and stuff like that? | |
| I just heard that Joe Biden literally just sent him another check for I can't remember the amount, ten million dollars or ten no no no ten billi did you say million or billion, ten billion dollars. | |
| Yeah, I said them both. | |
| It's a lot of money where I come from. | |
| Yeah, by the way, isn't it amazing we've gotten to a time in life. | |
| We have thirty what five six trillion dollars in debt and you know, millions, billions, trillions, these these numbers, you know, people's eyes gloss over, but trillions, and we're now paying annually over a trillion dollars on interest on the debt alone. | |
| Before the in other words, before we can pay for one other thing, we have we need a trillion dollars just to open up the government, just for debt, and it's only getting worse. | |
| Crazy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I I'm just kind of concerned. | |
| How do we pull our text? | |
| If we're in charge of the purse, why can't we stop the payment on those checks that are going over there? | |
| That's that's pretty much my question. | |
| Look, I understand people, you know, some people are mad at the new speaker, Mike Johnson, with these two separate CRs, but the plan is to get back to the proper order, which is appropriations bills. | |
| The fiscal year for our government ends September 30th. | |
| The new fiscal year begins October one, and going forward, he has pledged and promised, and we're gonna hold him accountable for it, that he will have the appropriations bills done on time, vote on them on time, so we avoid these continuing resolutions and these insane omnibus bills like we got last holiday season. | |
| That's not gonna happen this holiday season. | |
| That's maybe the one plus out of all of this. | |
| And and you know, we gotta give him time, he's got to get his footing, and frankly, for the Republicans to really be effective on spending, we need more conservatives elected. | |
| There's too many moderate Republicans out there, rhino republicans that don't have any principles. | |
| I concur with that, sir. | |
| That's all I and I uh thank you for your time and God bless you and your family, and have a uh good holiday. | |
| You too, my friend. | |
| Steve, God bless you and your family. | |
| In spite of all the horror around the world and you know the difficulties that many families are experiencing, and I've been there, I've lived there, it's not fun. | |
| Um we have so much to be grateful for. | |
| And we do have an opportunity together uh in front of us, and that's to get this country back on track. | |
| And that's the one thing that I hope people will be thinking about all year long and getting ready for all year long, uh, because the stakes, frankly, they just can't be any higher than they are right now. | |
| All right, back to our busy phones, 800 941 Sean. | |
| Uh Mimi, California. | |
| What's up, Mimi? | |
| How are you? | |
| Glad you called. | |
| Afternoon. | |
| Good afternoon. | |
| You said it right there. | |
| Um I hope, you know, that we can be a country that's blessed again and turns to God because this is uh um we were always a big country and everybody wants to come here, but now we don't we're not we forgot about God. | |
| And um, but one thing I wanted to say which I meant. | |
| But you know what? | |
| Not everybody's forgotten about God. | |
| Not everybody, but enough enough people that we're seeing what we see right now in our especially in our country. | |
| Well, let me put it this way. | |
| I if it wasn't for my faith, my belief in uh God, our father, our creator, uh I'm a Christian. | |
| If I didn't have that as a foundation of my life, I I don't know I don't know how people make it through tough times without that understanding. | |
| And you know, will we ever know the real majesty of God? | |
| Well, I don't think in this on this earth in this dimension, but I do believe in an afterlife. | |
| I do believe that in a place called heaven, and I do believe that it is paradise, and I do believe in the biblical phrase. | |
| If you look at the phrase I often say, let not your heart be troubled, and it goes on to say, in my father's house are many mansions, and I go there to prepare a place for you so that where I am ye shall also be. | |
| And I believe that. | |
| I believe all of that. | |
| And that helps keep me somewhat centered, somewhat balanced, somewhat normal, because a lot of talk show hosts are out of their mind. | |
| You're right. | |
| Well, there's no hope without Christ. | |
| So the people who don't know Christ and don't believe in him, they have no hope. | |
| And that's why they live the way they live. | |
| And and in a time like this, especially. | |
| I I agree with you wholeheartedly. | |
| It just it keeps me grounded. | |
| I've never forgotten where I came from. | |
| I know that I've been blessed. | |
| This is an undeserved life I've been given. | |
| I never I always thought I'd fail on radio and TV. | |
| I never thought I'd succeed. | |
| Ever it makes you who you are, Sean. | |
| Um all of us going through hardships, that's the good thing. | |
| It it gives us even hard work, but our kids today, they don't understand what real hard work, at least a lot of them don't, the what I've seen, the new generation that they have a a spoiled um upbringing, and I'm guilty of it by myself with my own daughter. | |
| But they don't know what real hardships are, so it's hard for them when things like this happen, like they really will be in disarray, unless, like we were talking about before, unless you unless you know Christ and you know where you're going when you die, then you don't have hope in this world. | |
| There's no hope. | |
| Well, I appreciate your call. | |
| You know, I'll often ask uh on this program atheists, I ask him questions. | |
| Okay, you believe in a big bang theory, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, so if you believe in a big bang theory uh that actually created we now know universes within universes, within universes, to the point where we can't even see all of creation. | |
| And my question is simple. | |
| Okay, so how did the big bang happen? | |
| Where did the energy from the bang come from? | |
| Because I think as an as an atheist, you have to then believe that something can come from nothing. | |
| And I don't believe that. | |
| That to me is a scientific. | |
| If we follow the science, follow the math. | |
| You can't believe that all of that energy existed on its own and collided on its own and created the heavens, the earth, the universes, and everything every living thing in it. | |
| I don't believe that's possible. | |
| And I think in that sense, I I just think people are just they're not thinking people. | |
| You don't have to use the faith quotient when it comes to a belief that there is a God, a creator, but we don't have to understand that if God wanted us to understand him more at this point in our lives, we would understand him more. | |
| But clearly that's not in the plan. | |
| I do look forward to one day understanding more, but I'm perfectly content waiting a lot of days to before that day. | |
| I needed it, I need a little bit more forgiveness before I get to that point. | |
| Especially Linda. | |
| Linda needs probably to live to a hundred. | |
| Maybe a hundred and ten. | |
| I'm gonna tell you something right now. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Here we go. | |
| By the way, your pastor's mad at you. | |
| Oh, yeah, why? | |
| Why? | |
| Because you have a hate list. | |
| You brought back your hate list. | |
| First of all, the hate list never went away. | |
| It just got shorter. | |
| The big difference. | |
| Okay, but it's gotten bigger again. | |
| Well, yeah, I hate everybody. | |
| I feel like this. | |
| And I think a lot of people. | |
| What about love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and your neighbors yourself. | |
| That's your thing. | |
| I don't do that. | |
| That's called the Bible. | |
| It's not called my thing. | |
| This is the space I live in. | |
| I'm gonna tell you right now. | |
| I hate everybody equally. | |
| Everybody starts from the same spot. | |
| Do you hate you hate me? | |
| Well, I know you too long. | |
| So I there's things I don't like about you, but as overall, I think you're all right. | |
| Like if you had to grade me one out of ten, what do I get? | |
| It depends on the day. | |
| Did you eat you, you know, things like that. | |
| Okay, that's true. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Honestly, overall scale of one out of ten. | |
| I think you're fantastic. | |
| I think you're fantastic too. | |
| I would give you a nine point nine. | |
| Cause that point one percent of the time that you know what I'm talking about. | |
| Adam Schiff, you would not. | |
| However, I'm giving you nine point nine. | |
| There are many days where you look at me where you're like, you're driving me crazy. | |
| And I'm like, are you gonna have a stroke? | |
| Are you okay? | |
| Everything all right? | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| My point in telling you this is I hate everybody equally. | |
| And I believe I can't believe she's saying this. | |
| I am, and I mean every word of it. | |
| And you but but you're not gonna be able to do it. | |
| You know what would be funny if I finish my sentence. | |
| But you would know what I think you have changed. | |
| Your mind reading abilities are getting better with every year. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| It is fantastic. | |
| Keep going. | |
| So this is the point where I tell you, there are people that I meet, I think, mm-hmm I don't like that person. | |
| And then I get to know them and and they earn my trust or they do the right things, you know, yada yada. | |
| And then there are people, and I said, Oh, yeah, there's a reason I hated you from the beginning. | |
| There we go. | |
| All right, I got it. | |
| Can I ask a question now? | |
| What did Jesus say, some of his last words when he died on the cross? | |
| Love others as you love yourself, love people as your brother. | |
| Not on the cross. | |
| What did he say on the cross to his father? | |
| I don't know. | |
| They know not forgive them for they know what they're doing. | |
| Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do. | |
| Uh-huh. | |
| How many times did Jesus tell the apostles they should forgive others? | |
| I didn't say I didn't forgive people, I just say I hate them. | |
| There's a difference. | |
| Well, you can't forgive and hate them. | |
| You can't know I said I hate everybody equal from the beginning, and then people have the right to earn their their trust, my trust, and then we move forward from there. | |
| And I think I'm just going to say it out loud, there's a lot of people in this world who don't live by Christ. | |
| They live by Satan. | |
| So as far as I'm concerned, you deserve every ounce of hatred that I have. | |
| And when I look at people marching down the street saying pro-Palestine and F the Jews and everything else, you know what? | |
| I do hate them. | |
| Okay, but what did Jesus And they do know what they do? | |
| What is the example of Jesus, though? | |
| The people that murdered him, beat him, slaughtered him. | |
| Um, and and what did he do? | |
| Yeah, but Christ is amazing. | |
| That's why Christ died for our sins, because we stink. | |
| There's one way to put it. | |
| We're all saying we are all sinners and have fallen short. | |
| All right, 800-941-SHAWN is our number if you want to be a part of the program. | |
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