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Well, as we've been reporting all day, ground forces expanding their operations tonight.
We'll be doing two hours on Hannity, by the way, on the Fox News channel.
Let me play Bernie Sanders.
I am so sick and tired of the virulent hatred, anti-Semitism among members of the, what I'm calling Hamas caucus, you know, led by Congresswoman Tlaib and others.
And I'm just, I can't believe what we've been witnessing on college campuses.
I can't believe what we've been seeing worldwide.
Just reminiscent of a time you never thought the world would ever go back to.
But yeah, it's been that bad.
Bernie Sanders, Israel doesn't have the right to violate international law.
How did we go from the victims of terrorism to their violating international law by defending their very existence?
Because that's what's at stake here for the Israelis.
Listen.
Madam President, let us be clear.
Israel suffered a major attack and has, as do all other countries under similar circumstances, the absolute right to defend itself.
But having the right to defend your country against a terrorist attack and a terrorist organization like Hamas does not mean having the right to violate international law and wage indiscriminate warfare against innocent men, women, and children in Gaza.
The people of Israel have gone through a horrific and traumatic shock.
It is understandable that they are furious and want to strike back forcefully.
Revenge, however, is not a useful policy.
So let's look at this from an American perspective.
The 1,400 murdered would be the equivalent population-wise extrapolated out to losing 38,000 Americans in a single day.
We lost 2,977 on 9-11-01.
There has never been a case, maybe short of the warnings that America sent to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
There have not been any more warnings to the people of Gaza to leave or they will die.
They have been told this now for almost an entire month.
And yet, you know what?
What's happening?
Hamas terrorists are using the civilian population as human shields and worse.
Anyway, joining us now is South Carolina Senator, friend of the program and presidential candidate himself, Tim Scott, is with us.
Senator, always great to have you.
We appreciate it.
Well, now the IDF is telling us ground forces, they will be expanding their operations.
It seems official.
The incursion has now begun and will begin tonight.
Well, Sean, you know, what's happened over the last several days is that the Biden administration speaks with a forked tongue.
They stand by Israel during the day and then they slow down the invasion at night.
I will simply say that a proportional response to what has been the closest thing to a Jewish genocide since the Holocaust is to wipe Hamas off the face of the map.
That is a proportional response.
And when you think about Bernie Sanders and the rest of the apologists led by the squad, I can't think of a more delirious group of individuals who believe that being an extension of the propaganda machine for Hamas, that is un-American, unacceptable.
And I would love to see the squad kicked out of Congress today.
You know what?
I don't think there's going to be a way to do that.
But putting that aside, I mean, the fact that you have people like Congresswoman Talib and others in the squad, you know, actually sticking to the story, the lie that Israel struck a hospital, killing 500 innocent men, women, and children, when in fact we have all the video evidence, even audio evidence, that none of that was true.
The hospital wasn't even hit with a bomb.
It was the parking lot.
But the whole thing is a lie, but they continue to spread the propaganda.
Tell me where this is rooted.
Give me the root of all of this.
Evil.
That is the bottom line.
We have anti-Semitism running rampant through the Democrat Party.
The radical left will use this issue to make Israel into the oppressors so that they can continue their narrative of the oppressed versus the oppressors.
It's one of the reasons why we must tell the whole truth of the journey towards fairness and justice.
America has been the leading country.
Sean, you know this as well as I do.
We have made sure that the evolution of America has been felt throughout the world.
We are the strongest ally of Israel.
We need to continue to tell the story of our Jewish brothers and sisters in the faith.
The bottom line is this.
There is a force that is sinister in nature.
It certainly wants to control and it wants to intimidate and it's a part of the radical left and their movement to take over this country and change the very DNA of what it means to be an American.
It's one of the reasons why I'm running for president, because I believe that America is the greatest story.
We are the city on the hill, and for us to defend our ally is the most humane thing we can do.
It is the way we stand on the top of the mountain, and we count justice as our responsibility for our allies.
We are always loyal to our allies, Sean, and we must be lethal to our combined adversaries.
The plot is the radical left trying to control not only our country, but to spread socialism and their liberal thought process across the world.
You know, I think we have to look at there's no two wars that are 100% similar.
However, the hostilities in Israel, if you take it back to the 1948 U.N. partition plan, you know, and war was brought to Israel the next day, the day after their modern creation, although historically it has been their homeland.
And you look at the 67 war and the 73 war, you know, it's always been the neighbors around Israel.
As the IDF is, you know, now said that they are expanding their operations, the ground operations tonight.
You know, can we not learn from the history of war?
I mean, why is there no moral clarity?
Iran is the head of the snake.
They are fighting proxy wars, helping Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon.
They're arming and fighting a proxy war with the Yemen out of Yemen with the Houthis against the Saudis.
Now they're even firing rockets into Israel.
And we've got now Israel on the verge of a two-front war with a threat of Iran's direct involvement, rockets being fired out of Syria.
I was actually glad that Joe Biden hit them back.
But, you know, why hasn't Joe Biden taken on a stronger enemy?
Why did Putin get away with shooting down our drones?
Why did China get away with a spy balloon?
Why does China get away with confronting our fighter jets in international airspace and our Navy in international waterways?
So I ask you, Senator, I wish there was no such thing as evil.
But when attacked, and even if you try to avoid all collateral damage, it will be impossible in war.
And I would argue that Israel, if they want to be successful, prior to this latest conflict, every single year, tens and tens of thousands of rockets are fired out of Gaza into Israel.
And the same thing has been happening on the north.
The net result of all of this, to me, has to end with they can no longer use these areas as launching pads and areas to attack Israel on a regular basis.
That has to come to an end.
Totally agree with you, Sean.
One of the things I've said is that they should wipe Hambas off of the map, and that is exactly what needs to happen.
I'm a big believer, as you know, Sean.
I'm a Christian.
I love the Lord and I love the gospel and the gospel is clear.
God is not just a God of love.
He is also the God of justice.
Romans 13:4 says very clearly to those who do evil, the wrath of God is the consequence of that.
And I hope that the wrath of God for Hamas comes in the form of American and Israeli hardware.
We must see a clear, complete annihilation of Hamas and a restoration, a restoration of justice in this world.
And one of the fastest ways for us to get there is to see it happen real time to Hamas so that there's no doubt, there is no equivocating two sides.
That the only challenge we have is to make sure that the Hamas and their supporters, and I mean Iran, feel the fire.
It is the only thing they will respond to.
It is completely clear to me, anything less than that only encourages more terrorism, only encourages more genocide, only encourages more mass murders.
We can do something about that.
Stand shoulder to shoulder, back to back, no daylight, and get the job done.
What should America's role be?
You're running for president.
What would you want?
If we were to say the Tim Scott doctrine, what would it be?
It would be peace through strength.
Therefore, while we're in the midst of a conflict, strength looks like our military properly placed effectively and responding consistently to attacks against our people.
Three examples.
Number one, in Iran, they fund terrorism, 83 attacks through their proxies in the last two years and only four responses.
That means 79 more responses should be coming the way of Iran and their proxies.
Number two, since October.
But Joe, but Joe, you mean you don't want to give another $6 billion to Iran?
They didn't give enough money to Iran in the Obama administration?
And why are we allowing Iran to keep getting rich, selling their oil, and why are we not stopping it?
You know, Sean, you were the first person I heard to talk about not just the $6 billion, but the $80 billion of revenue because of sales of their energy.
Let's cut that off.
Let's continue to freeze the $6 billion and let the foreign minister who came to America from Iran, who threatened America, let them understand that one American life will cost them two lives.
We have to make sure that terrorists understand our will is resolve to complete the mission, period.
It's exactly what I would do as President of the United States.
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All right, our final moments with GOP presidential candidate and, of course, the senator from the great state of South Carolina, Tim Scott, is with us.
Senator, last question.
Tom Cotton basically dismissed Biden's airstrikes on these empty warehouses in Syria.
You know, I will say this.
He said Joe Biden has had many opportunities to strike back against China and Russia and Iran.
And so he goes after the lowest hanging fruit possible to what?
Act tough, to act like he's involved and engaged in a real military leader when it's his policies, frankly, that I would argue caused all of this.
Tom Cotton said it is not serious and that this was, you know, he dismissed it all.
And I don't really disagree with him.
I don't need to sean to tell you the truth.
When you listen to the statement or when you read the statement from Lloyd Austin, the one thing you walk away with is that they are explaining why this little targeted attack was actually just a little skirmish.
They are so afraid of their own shadow that they're backpedaling, literally backpedaling.
I don't understand why they don't see weakness from this administration invites conflict.
It costs people their lives.
And there is fire all across this globe from Eastern Europe to the Middle East and proxy fights coming, it appears, in the Indo-Pacific.
There are real challenges that can be solved by strength in the White House, not backpedaling pacifists who believe that you can find a way to appease your opponents from striking you.
They don't respect us.
Respect comes from strength.
I couldn't say it any better.
Great point.
Senator Tim Scott.
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We'll see more of this ground offense as it unfolds tonight on Hannity.
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A lot of action going on in Israel today.
And by tonight, we have been told the IDF has even announced it, the ground forces will expand their operations.
We'll have full coverage on Hannity, 9 Eastern tonight.
Earlier in the day, the IDF raided the West Bank to go after some of these radical militant camps that have been set up there.
We'll keep with our top story throughout the afternoon and keep you updated.
First, I do want to remind you about the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews.
There is a lot of human suffering on the ground.
Interesting quote in the Bible in Genesis.
It tells us to bless those that bless Israel.
And I realize many are struggling in this country, and many are struggling there.
Our country is in decline.
But if you can find it within you, I just want you to know that this organization is doing so much good as a result of having the world witnessing these heinous attacks by Hamas terrorists against innocent Israeli citizens.
Just know there is this one good organization, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
They're on the ground right now providing critical essentials.
They're giving food, medicine, water, emergency supplies, even the type of supplies for people that are being injured, and there's no hospital space available for them.
Anyway, the only way to help them out, they're counting on your generosity.
We set up a special website.
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That's Hannity4Israel.com.
My friend, and well, he's the co-host of the hit morning show Fox and Friends.
Brian Kilmead is with us.
And he is the author of a brand new book.
And it is out next week.
It's called Teddy and Booker T, How Two American Icons Blazed a Path for Racial Equality.
It's part of a series of historical books that Brian has written over time.
Mr. Kilmead, sir, how are you?
Crazy time.
Out of all the times we've worked together at the same station and even before, this is the most almost a blitzkrieg of breaking news.
It's unbelievable, am I right?
It's crazy.
I mean, we're watching last night, you know, what we thought was a situation where this main shooter was being surrounded and hopefully caught.
Turns out he wasn't even in the building.
I did have an opportunity to introduce the country to this new speaker.
Most people were not aware of Speaker Johnson.
And here we've got, you know, now earlier today, the IDF raided the West Bank to go right into and take over these militant camps.
Smart move by Israel's part.
But, you know, with this expanding ground invasion incursion starting tonight, and they're saying it's starting tonight, we also have to watch to the north and Hezbollah, and of course, them firing rockets in the north.
We've had rockets fired from Syria.
I thought it was a rather tepid response, hitting an empty warehouse by the Biden administration.
It's interesting that they won't respond to China, Russia, or Iran directly.
And it seemed like a feel-good moment for our administration, but that's a sidebar.
What's your take on the whole situation?
Well, number one, most of the hits on our people were from Iraq.
And we had no problem hitting Iraq.
They know they want us to defend our 2,500 troops there.
We cannot believe there's been 90-plus attacks on our people, 900 in Syria, 2,500 in Iraq.
They're taking shots at us through drones and RPGs.
And because we knock them down, they think it's okay.
Then they gradually tell us 25 were hurt.
Excuse me?
25 Americans were hurt.
Not serious, but they were hurt.
I thought one guy had a heart attack.
So now we wait for three weeks to hit a depot on the border of Syria.
And I'm saying, then they go, well, the Iraqi prime minister doesn't want us to do anything there.
I didn't ask for, we don't ask for permission.
Iran does not run Iraq.
They go after us.
We have to go after them.
It's the only thing they understand.
It's outrageous.
If this is it, you know, Iran's going to answer again.
And then what is he going to do?
We gave him the assets.
We give him $900 billion a year.
Use it.
Use it.
Show strength to defend us and just say, we are allies with Israel.
We do want them to be successful.
Don't run from the alliance.
Let's get your overall take.
Did you ever think we'd see such virulent hatred, radical anti-Semitism in our own country, be it Times Square, you know, some of our most prestigious universities, Cornell, Harvard, Columbia, but honestly all across the country, the kind of protests and comments that we hear out of Congress, and then you take it worldwide and you go to London and you go to France and you go to Australia.
Did you ever think that we'd see such rabid hatred, anti-Semitism, and hear things like gas the Jews, F the Jews in Australia?
I never thought I'd hear that in my lifetime.
So let's get this straight.
You kill 1,400 people.
790 are civilians.
But you don't just kill them.
You butcher them, you torture them, many of which are children.
And then you take 200 with you.
And all of a sudden, on almost every enclave, every country, in the streets of New York, you are seeing it's Israel's fault, anti-Semitic behavior, the most horrific things written, and organized.
There's going to be, know what they said in Brooklyn?
If you're in Brooklyn and Jewish, stay away or stay home.
Excuse me?
Jewish Americans have to watch themselves in Brooklyn, stay home, or leave?
What happened?
This has to be organized, Sean.
This has to be financed.
This has to be organized.
They tapped into something because they got a horrible product.
The Palestinian situation was not on the tip of anyone's tongue until this carnage on October 7th.
And I think some of it has to do with the fact that people in the next generation, millennials, Gen Zs, are not watching the news and getting it from TikTok.
And that algorithm is manipulating these people and no longer making it cool to like America or like our allies.
And I think that's got to be unwound.
And I think these people got to be debriefed.
The best thing about it is the defunding from the philanthropists, of these philanthropists, of others.
Well, you're talking about the donors to the colleges and, yeah, all those people that are giving massive amounts of money to them.
I mean, if you look at the money that Harvard has taken in from graduates and donors, it's over $37 billion.
And then you have these snowflakes that were part of the 30-plus organizations that blamed Israel and Israel alone, the victim of terror, for the terror attacks against them, which is insanity.
It shows, number one, the dumbest people seem to be living at our most prestigious universities and Ivy League institutions.
And then all of a sudden, Wall Street's like, well, we'd like to know their names because we don't want to hire people with that type of bigotry.
And then all of a sudden, now they need psychological help.
And they've set up a fund for people to donate so these little Ivy League snowflakes can get the psychological care they need.
Why don't we take that money out of the trust fund that they built up over the years?
I love it.
And I'm seeing, I mean, I got the show on Saturday night.
The whole thing is going to be about between these protests and Israel going on the offensive, finally stepping in.
I want them to do it.
I'm going to make a prediction.
Your whole show Saturday night is going to be live action with Israeli forces on the ground and a full-on war going on.
I'm fine with it.
As you know, our kids are athletes.
So my daughter is up playing her, which she wins, she gets in the playoffs.
So I'm going to be doing it from upstate New York.
But you're leaving the field going right over there and being able to, I love doing the show live.
But it's great when you can mix it with your family activities and it doesn't get blown off.
Listen, I've done that for years.
I mean, thanks to technology, I can do, well, you have an ensemble show, so it's more difficult for you, but I can do my show pretty much anywhere, which is why I want to get the hell out of New York.
But with the book that's coming out, I actually, the first time I talked about it out loud, I don't know if you remember, it was the New Hampshire primary.
You, again, took everyone out to dinner, and somehow we got talking, and I explained to you, someone asked what the next book I was doing, and it might have been you.
And I just talked about Booker T. Washington, what he overcame.
We're in the middle of the George Floyd riots, and people complain about America today.
And I tell you about a nine-year-old that was born a slave that ended up being one of the most influential people in the world.
And then it turns out he combined with Teddy Roosevelt to change the whole country.
And that, in explaining that, I went home, finished that side of it, worked for the next year and a half to put it together.
And that's why I couldn't wait.
My image of you asking me what I was working on and explaining it helped galvanize the pitch that got the book deal that had me put this all together.
I'm sure you don't remember because the pandemic hit two weeks later.
And next thing you know, we're all in our different places trying to make sense of it.
Well, you know, it's also your passion.
I mean, you love history, and you've now written a number of books.
This is the, I don't remember what number in a series of historical books that you've read.
I don't think people fully, completely understand the relationship.
It was in 1901, Theodore Roosevelt welcomed, you know, civil rights activists and educator Booker T. Washington, and it was a circle of counselors.
Now, by the way, compare that to FDR, one of the greatest Olympic champions of all time at the time, happened to be an African-American, and that Olympic champion was not invited to the White House with other Olympic athletes.
Think of that.
And they were cousins, and he worshipped Teddy.
But not, you know, he was a Democrat, and he was a Republican.
I'm not sure that made a difference.
And consider this.
Teddy Rosale's mothers, a whole family fought for the Confederacy.
And his dad in the Union, his mom said, do me a favor, don't fight.
I can't have you fighting against my family.
And his dad's big regret was not fighting for the union.
And he always expressed, you know, I should have fought, I should have fought.
And that's why Teddy ended up getting into the military.
And that's why he ended up having an idea what they thought in the South, born in the North.
And when he reads up from slavery, the book on Booker T. Washington, he goes, I ought to meet this guy.
And then he says, hey, listen, would you be my advisor on judges, on postmasters, on doc masters?
Would you give me an idea of what the South wants?
I want the vote, and I also want to make this country better.
And they had dinner together.
And it was referenced in John McCain's concession speech.
They thought, hey, Booker T., would you want to come over for dinner with my family?
He said, great.
America wasn't ready for it.
Horrible headlines.
You can't have a black man eating with a white man, a white man's family at the White House.
This is terrible, and it was a scandal, and I'm embarrassed by it.
But these guys overcame it.
They realized the America they had and what we could become.
They kept working with each other.
And together, he got elected for the first time.
And again, he helped race relations for generations.
And together, to see a black man and white man treat each other with such respect at that time moved our country forward.
And you just got to appreciate it.
And he's still now today, Alan West loves Booker T. Washington.
But Al Sharpton hates him, not hates him, doesn't respect him, because he doesn't think that going in and changing things in the America that he had, even though it wasn't perfect, was okay.
They wanted activism.
He gave them education.
He said, I'm going to teach a whole generation to read, write, and to learn to trade, like Mike Rowe.
Mike Rowe goes, learn to trade.
Booker T. Washington says, I'll teach you, but everyone's got to get a skill.
You are handy.
You could do construction.
My big regret is I am not handy.
Booker T. Washington says, you know, white people are not being ready to handle my Brian.
I get complaints that I won't even change a light bulb in my house anymore because I'm too busy.
But I do like it.
It was probably the best thing that ever happened in my life.
And that is, you know, 10 years in restaurants, 10 years in construction.
And frankly, my belief in God, those things together, to some extent, to any extent that I might be grounded, it's only because of those experiences and that belief in God.
The other thing is, I owe you a favor, is you and I were asked to speak at WOKV on stage.
And, you know, I introduced you and I helped you through it, and the crowd came there to see you.
And I just being on stage, being able to talk freely like this, I was able to put together some, got an idea to talk about all the books, American history and patriotism on stage.
And that's another favor I owe you because you asked me to come down there.
OKV asked us to come down.
We're both on the station.
And to be able to interact with our audience and see them face to face instead of just looking into a microphone, which I'm lucky enough to have a radio show too.
And that also gave me the idea.
So I'm able to also not worry about Citibank hiring me and getting involved in a scandal.
So I put these stage shows together.
I talk about the country and meet our viewers, our listeners, and our viewers.
There's nothing better.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back.
More with Brian Kilmead.
His new book is out, Teddy and Booker T, How Two American Icons Blazed a Path for Racial Equality.
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