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Obviously, we're following the news, and there is a lot of it out of Israel.
And as they now battle and have to contemplate a war on two fronts against Hamas and Gaza and Lebanon and Hezbollah, both proxy wars by Iran, and it gets more complicated by the day.
And, you know, you think of the terror attacks a little over a week ago, and it would be extrapolated out, as I've said many times, you know, based on population.
That would be like losing over 38,000 Americans in a single day.
And the predictable calls for restraint from Israel.
You know, it just is what it is.
How does this little country defend itself surrounded by so many enemies at one time?
Anyway, joining us now is South Carolina Senator, friend of the program, also presidential candidate.
Tim Scott is back with us.
Sir, welcome back.
Sean, God bless you.
Thank you for continuing to air the truth, especially in this dire time for our allies, our friend Israel.
What a blessing to have you on the radio right now.
Well, you know, you're kind of say it.
I wish it wasn't happening.
I can wish all day I wish there wasn't evil in the world, but we both know that there is.
We've seen the images.
I guess one of the most shocking things to come out post this was what was happening on Friday, and that is these massive protests.
I'm sure you saw the images in Times Square.
It looked like New Year's Eve.
And, you know, people not without the moral clarity to see that Israel was the victim of a terror attack.
And all these people die at over 1,300 Israelis.
If you compare their population to ours, it would be the equivalent of 38,000.
And people support Hamas?
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that, Senator.
John, I got to tell you, it was devastating to see people in our own country marching and celebrating an absolute terrorist organization for the annihilation of our Jewish brothers and sisters.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map, but they don't stop there.
There are two more steps.
The second step is to eliminate all Jews anywhere on the planet.
And the third is to compromise and then destroy Western democracies.
And I got to tell you, if any of those students on college campuses are foreign nationals on a visa, they should be sent back to their country.
Anyone who stands up and who says they want to kill Jews, they support terrorism, they should have that visa revoked.
But having so many, I guess what shocked me a little bit, and I thought at this point in my life, my career, I was unshockable.
You know, I'm having a hard time understanding the volume of people, the number of supporters.
That's what shocked me.
Yes, I tell you, I think we're living in an alternate universe where the radical left continues to sow seeds of division and polarization, and they want to have a story about the oppressor and the oppressed.
We've seen that.
I've said it so many times, John, that the fact is that the radical left will use anybody, any group, any issue to hold on to their power.
Here at home, they want to divide America on racial lines and on class lines.
And globally, they want to put people in positions of being the oppressor, and they come to the defense of the oppressed, no matter how inconsistent with human history that story actually is.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
This is where the indoctrination of our young people versus the education of our young people is so important.
We have to stop indoctrinating college students and high school students that America is evil or that Western democracies are somehow oppressors.
Can you explain, for example, Ivy League institutions and some 30-plus Harvard groups blaming Israel and only Israel for being a victim of terror attack?
Now, I thought as a country, I thought we kind of had consensus on the idea that you don't blame victims.
What happened?
You're right.
Well, I can't explain what is unexplainable.
It's like you said, you've never been stumped in all of your years of being on radio and telling the truth.
I got to tell you, I've been around for 58 years, and I've never been more disappointed in a large group of people who gather in New York and in Michigan and in Chicago to celebrate terrorists.
There is no way for you or I, for us to explain the devastation and, frankly, the delusion of people marching in the streets of America.
I can't explain it, John.
It's just unexplainable.
So what should the Biden administration's position be?
What should America's positions be?
If you were president, what would your position be?
The number one thing I would say is, number one, we always stand with our allies.
We will be loyal to our allies.
We will be lethal to our collective adversaries, number one.
Number two, we should provide all the support, resources, weaponry, and emotional support to the nation of Israel and their people who have been murdered, who have been beheaded, burned, raped.
Their families need our collective support.
And we should say to the IDF, until Hamas is wiped off the face of the earth, There can be no ceasefire.
The only time to have a ceasefire is when they're all dead.
I'm talking about Hamas.
They have to be wiped out.
They are an existential threat to the existence of Israel.
And the next thing I would do is make sure that we have our special operation forces prepared to rescue Americans being held.
It is so important.
You take an American.
It should cost you your life.
And I am willing to use our mighty fighting force, our special operations, to rescue those Americans.
You know, I'd love to be honest and say I really am optimistic that we're going to be able to get these hostages.
Now, we think as many as 150 and a number of them, dozens perhaps, Americans.
We know now the figure has gone up, 30 Americans killed in these terror attacks.
So, however, having been there during conflict even, and having been right at the Gaza border in a town where 10,000 rockets had been fired into this town, Sarut, over the last 10 years, and the kids can't play outside because it only takes 13 seconds for a missile launched in Gaza to reach this border Israeli town.
And my question is, I don't know how you can accomplish a mission like that.
Number one, Gaza's pretty big overall.
I mean, it's going to take some significant intelligence or maybe the intelligence they already have embedded in the ground there to find out the location.
And that then is the only hope we have that I can think of.
Don't think you're wrong.
One of the things that we've admired about Israel for a very long time is the high level, high quality of their intelligence agency.
I know that we've seen a breakdown, at least, from all signs of the intelligence gathering.
There is human intelligence embedded on the ground.
I would suggest that there is a way for us to do it.
But the way that we should expect is for the IDF to go into Gaza and to do what is almost impossible to do, which is to go home to home, street to street, neighborhood to neighborhood, and thoroughly and meticulously root out and eliminate neutralizing the actual threat, which is Hamas.
And through that process, find Americans, find hostages.
One of the things that we have to remember, Don, is the importance of the complete siege.
Tunning off resources into Gaza, particularly that portion of Gaza, is one of the ways that we cause so much pain that they want to concede our position, eliminate the pain by giving us our hostages back.
Let's talk about Iran and their role in this and all the reports that they did, the plotting and the planning of this, the Quds forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards involvement, Lebanon, Hezbollah, and both Gaza and Hamas.
How should the world be dealing with Iran at this time?
One of the things I've been saying for a long time is I find Joe Biden to be complicit because the weakness from the presidency actually always has invited conflict.
The negotiations from this president paid for much of the resources in this conflict.
$6 billion has made Joe Biden complicit.
That money is fungible.
We've had that conversation multiple times.
The average American gets it.
Only the elite miss it.
And then, third, when you tell Israel to stand down or refrain immediately after being attacked, you're on the wrong page.
What we do with Iran is we put the price of every single American hostage on their balance sheet.
There has to be a consequence to Iran for the support they provide to Hamas.
And if we see any action from Hezbollah, we need to raise that price.
And that means the greatest deterrent we have for future attacks is to go to the source of the money that provides them with the ability to attack.
And that is Iraq.
Quick break more with South Carolina Senator Tim Scott.
And your call's coming up.
All right, we continue with Senator Tim Scott, the senator from the great state of South Carolina, also a presidential candidate, Tim Scott.
Let me ask you about what's going on in the House and this battle for speaker.
I see that I triggered a number of the snowflakes over the weekend by asking, I think, relevant questions, because I think urgency is paramount.
And do you have any plans of when you can open the house?
And lastly, would you ever choose to work with Democrats because of all those reports that some Republicans are considering working with Hakeem Jeffries, which is insanity to me and not leadership?
You see anything wrong with me asking as a talk show host, a member of the press, those questions?
Of course not.
That just sounds like common sense.
Let me just go back to my House days before I tell you what I think is clearly obvious.
I have worked with Scalise, with Kevin McCarthy, with Jim Jordan.
Jim Jordan supported Kevin McCarthy to be speaker.
The one thing I can tell you about all three men, I thought it was disgusting to see Scalise bow out of the race because Nancy Mace talked about him being a part of some kind of white supremacy.
I remember those days.
I remember Cedric Richmond, a black Democrat who came to the defense of Steve Scalise because they had had such a relationship for 20 years.
It only made sense to me that we should be proud of our members of Congress who want to lead Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalise.
I will tell you on Jim Jordan, the one thing you can count on is he is a man of integrity.
He has strong credibility.
He is more conservative than some.
But what we need in America now is a united Republican Party because the road to socialism runs right through the divisions in our party.
They should get behind closed doors, settle the speaker's race, change the rules until after November 2024, that you can't change the speaker.
Because instead of us talking about the refugee crisis that could be on our doorstep when you have presidential candidates who are softening their position, instead of us talking about the crisis on our southern border, where we're seeing 70,000
americans die but sean we're seeing nationals come from yemen and from iran and china instead of us talking about the devastation of the bidenomics we're seeing the infighting of the republican party distracting us from what to have the people the people's house closed at this time i i think plenty of time now has passed uh
Like you, I did not like the rule that, you know, any member at any time can close down the House and vacate the chair.
I don't like it, especially with a slim majority, because any four or five people can just take over the house at that point.
And I think it just leads to chaos, which is unfolding now.
And I just think the issues before us are too urgent not to have a speaker.
Totally agree with you.
That's one of the reasons why if Jim Jordan is the nominee today, get it done.
What we should all say, if I were President of the United States, John, the one thing I would say to my party, the Great Opportunity Party, is that we're going to focus on the future of this nation.
Let's stop focusing on ourselves.
Let's do the people's work.
And that requires a speaker to be approved.
And if you only have 221 votes and you need 218, figure it out and get it done today.
And don't go home.
Don't leave the room.
Don't take a bathroom break until it's done.
Because President of the United States, we need to be about the people's business.
We have a crisis on our borders, our crisis international.
And it is time for us to have a single-minded focus.
All right, Senator Tim Scott from the great state of South Carolina.
Senator, always great to have you.
Thank you, sir.
Look forward to talking to you again soon.
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All right, let's get to our busy, busy telephones.
Mark is in Connecticut.
Hey, Mark, how are you?
Glad you called.
Happy Monday.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
Thanks for taking my call.
What's going on?
Well, you know, the other day we were talking about, and even today, over the weekend, with all that's developed in the Middle East, and we're talking about the college campuses and how there's so much what seems to be support for the Palestinian cause.
And kind of, you know, a little at a time we're noticing the media putting more emphasis on the Israelis almost seemingly being at fault for what's taking place.
And we know that that's just a ridiculous stance to take.
When do we start blaming victims?
I don't know when that started.
Exactly.
And I don't live that far away from the campus at Yale.
And a friend of mine was telling me this this past weekend when driving through that area.
There's tons of signs and hanging out from windows and even groups gathering in there.
All of them are pro-Palestinian.
My being, are they really pro-Palestinian or are they pro-Hamas?
You know, where did all of this all come from?
In other words, it came from and it's a result of the terrorist attack that killed 1,300 Israelis.
Correct?
Correct.
So it happened on our college campuses today.
They're certainly not criticizing the terrorists that were responsible for it.
I don't think they even know what they're talking about, except that, you know, oh, there seems to be this antipathy towards Israel and this desire to blame Israel.
But again, on college campuses, that if you dare utter a word, you know, that is deemed politically incorrect or not, quote, in line with being woke, what happens?
You know, you're censored, you're shut out, you may even be kicked out, but it's okay to support people that committed acts of terror.
You know, how did we get so upside down?
Just lost that call, unfortunately.
We can get him back.
Let's try.
Mario in the free state of Florida.
What's up, Mario?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
I appreciate what you do.
Thank you.
That this horrific act by Hamas and via Iran is so outrageous.
But what bothers me most is that the Jewish people as a whole consist of about 8 million people, give or take.
And about 76% of these same people continue to vote for the Democratic Party.
now what i don't understand is through two terms of obama and another term of biden each administration has turned a blind eye and allowed iran to be flush with cash and basically well they really started becoming flush with cash when joe biden became president because joe biden didn't put the same restrictions on them
Joe Biden's the one that made a deal for ransom payment of allowing the $6 billion to be freed that was being held in South Korea, moved to a bank and Qatar.
And thankfully, because of public pressure, that stopped.
But, you know, I'm sure Joe wants to find another way to have, quote, peace with the mullahs that chant death to Israel and death to America.
What I don't understand, Sean, is why the Jewish people as a population here in the United States continue to vote for a party that allows Iran to bolster their oil, their wealth, knowing full well that they want to wipe Israel off the earth.
It's like the Jewish people, when they vote, are giving Iran via the president of the Democratic Party a loaded gun.
Well, I'm just telling you, I don't understand why there's any ambiguity and there's not full-on agreement and moral clarity over this issue.
I just would say it that way.
You know, why is there this sympathy towards?
You know, why isn't there sympathy towards the people of Israel?
Again, it's a small country, about the size of New Jersey.
Extrapolate out the population, 1,300 Israelis killed of that we know.
We have a number over 100 and about 100, 150 hostages.
And you extrapolate out, and by the way, we have the most brutal evidence of human atrocities you could ever imagine, including children that were beheaded and charred to death, burned to death, and all these other reports.
And why isn't there worldwide condemnation and outrage against the people that initiated this, started this seemingly out of nowhere?
Do you think the Jewish population will see the light and decide that Democrats are not the way to go and maybe vote Republican or have a larger percentage vote Republican?
I don't know the answer to that.
You know, I have many friends that are Jewish American, and most of them are flabbergasted that the overwhelming overall demographic percentage does vote Democrat.
They don't get it.
The president that has done more for Israel in our lifetime, even though many promised it to move the capital to Jerusalem and has supported them in so many other ways, that guy was Donald Trump.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All right.
Appreciate the call, Mario.
Thank you.
All right.
Mark is back in Connecticut.
Mark, I was going to give you the final word.
You get it.
Go ahead.
Thanks, Sean.
No, and I was just going to conclude by saying, you know, a lot of it has to do with what indoctrination.
It has to do with what the media is putting out there, which is all pro against Israel and trying to make it look like they're the ones who are at fault and have brought this upon themselves.
And it's the same thing in our school system, especially in our colleges.
Are we vetting professors?
What are we doing?
Are we stuck in a never-ending cycle of just ultra-liberal left-wing professors that are filling our kids' heads with these ideas?
And how else are they going to react other than the way that they do when this is the kind of information that they're being fed?
The indoctrination that is taking place in schools, our college campuses in particular, I mean, it's like it has been going on since the 60s, and it has only gotten worse over time.
And they are indoctrination centers.
Look, I had my own battle with this, you know, going back some of the years I was in college.
I remember being at NYU at one point, arguing with the professor every single solitary day, a guy that said he was a Marxist and a communist, said it right up front.
And I'm like sitting in the back row, I like Ronald Reagan.
Well, that turned into some interesting conversation.
And that's not true.
Why is it Dershowitz longer allowed on the campus grounds of Harvard University?
A tenured law professor.
They won't even allow us to have a debate with me moderating with two of their former professors, Dershowitz versus Cornell West.
Now, what does that tell you about free speech on college campuses?
We already know about conservatives ostracized from there, right?
Exactly.
All right, my friend.
Good call.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
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Chad is next.
Sean, hey, good afternoon.
Happy Monday to you.
You know, you thought we were.
Happy Monday.
You got to pick up your phone, my friend.
I'm sorry about that.
And it's always great to get to the busy phone lines, especially to start off the week.
A couple of things here.
You know, about the House speakership, in a way, it's, I don't want to say a joke, but, you know, there's so many things to go through of the ousting of Kevin McCarthy.
There's battling in our own party versus just trying to obviously trying to go and get, I don't want to say our enemy, but obviously going against the Democratic Party, everything they're doing, which is the insane Democratic Party.
And then ousted Kevin McCarthy.
You know, what in January, they almost ousted him out then.
And so fast forward nine months later, it finally comes to fruition.
It's really, it's really eye-opening, but not a surprise to see turmoil inside one specific party of the government, the one-third of the government.
So I didn't think Steve Scalise would get it.
You know, we all love him, everything that he's been through, you know, surviving the attack of the ball field when Trump was in president.
So that was just, you know, that was something that we all like him for.
I believe it does need to be Jim Jordan.
The guy's not afraid to get his dig in and get his hands dirty.
He'll take off the button, he'll take off the suit, roll up his sleeves, and go to work for the American people, not just for Ohio, but also for Americans here.
So let's hope that gets ratified quickly.
I just can't believe that we have some Republicans in all these reports that some Republicans would consider working with Democrats to pick the next speaker.
And when I read that, I'm like, that's not leading.
And that is an absolute guaranteed way to lose power in elections.
And frankly, deservedly so.
Get your act together.
You know, at this point in history, we really don't have time to have the people's house closed.
That's my opinion.
Get your act together.
Get a speaker.
Get consensus.
Not everyone's going to be, it's not going to be their favorite.
It doesn't matter.
Find the things that you unite on.
You know, that unite you as a Republican and go to work on those things.
Because every passing day, to me, you guys look stupid and incapable of leading.
That's what it looks like to me.
It does.
It's kind of an insult to the Republican Party for anybody who votes in a Republican Party.
So, you know, McCarthy, we may not always liked him.
He's a real soft-spoken or whatever.
And I don't want to say he's a yes man, but we just had to go with.
Kevin made one mistake, and that was back in May on the budget deal.
That was one, and they didn't get the budget appropriations done.
I thought they took too much time off in August.
They should have been all over this.
So it was a little slower.
However, they could have gotten it all done if they stuck together.
That is correct.
And I believe it's got to be Jim Jordan.
He's aggressive.
He's not soft-spoken like McCarthy.
And what you were saying about, you know, X amount of these Republicans were talking with X amount of Democrats.
That's crazy because, Sean, you say it best every time.
It's not every two and four years.
You know, Democrats and the Liberal Party, they see us Republicans.
They're racist.
They're sexist.
Homophobic, xenophobic, limophobic, transphobic.
They want dirty air and water.
They want children to die.
And they want to throw grandma and grandpa over a cliff from May Newt Gingrich, John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, and now a Jim Jordan lookalike.
So to a degree, I understand both parties have to come to an agreement.
But when it comes to this, it's a little bit of a joke.
It really is.
Lastly, you know, what's going on across the world is sickening.
It's heartbreaking.
A lot of it I can't watch.
Not that I don't want to.
It's painful to watch, you know.
And one thing we all know, and not to have a political something political about it, there's no way and you know what that this would be going on much to a degree, not even limited to the extent of it, if DJT was still the president.
Because we got a president now.
What's the total 30-plus Americans killed?
And what is he doing about it?
The guy can't even walk up the stage without tripping with the handrail next to him.
To end this on a good note, Sean, I made a friend here recently, and she's from Long Island, New York, and she's here in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, and she absolutely loves it.
Our oldest daughter, as she would say, is just be careful.
Make sure that, you know, the people that are liberal that ruin states like New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, that, you know, tell them they can stay in their respective states if they're going to bring their idiotic ideas and policies with them.
Oh, Sean, she's here for the right reasons.
The main one, her oldest daughter's here in her three grandsons, but we got a little political talk.
I didn't want to do that after the third or fourth time we spoke.
And she said, NYC is an absolute disgrace.
We got to get Trump back in.
And that's when I knew, okay, this girl is solid.
But, I mean, she talks just like Linda in Larissa's domain, New York, and Dubuque, Skylark.
And I can't help but just kind of chuckle when she and I are talking.
But I wanted to end this on a good note from Long Island, New York.
First person I thought of when she said that's where she's from.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
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