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Obviously, we're following the news, and there is a lot of it uh out of Israel, and as as they now battle the and and have to contemplate a war on two fronts against Hamas and Gaza and Lebanon and and hisbolah, uh both proxy wars by by Iran, and it gets more complicated by the day.
And, you know, you think of the terror attacks a little over a week ago, and it would be extrapolated out, as I've said many times, you know, based on population, that would be like losing over 38,000 Americans in a single day, and and the predictable calls for restraint from Israel, you know, it's it's it it just is what it is.
Um how does this little country defend itself surrounded by so many enemies at one time?
Uh anyway, joining us now is South Carolina Senator, uh friend of the program, also presidential candidate, Tim Scott is back with us.
Sir, welcome back.
Sean, God bless you.
Thank you for continuing to air the truth, especially in this dire time for our allies, our friend Israel.
What a blessing to have you on the radio right now.
Well, you know, you're kind to say it.
I wish it wasn't happening.
I can wish all day, I wish there was an evil in the world, but we both know that there is.
Uh we've seen the images.
I I guess one of the most shocking things to come out post this was what was happening on Friday.
And that is these massive protests that I'm sure you saw the images in Times Square look like New Year's Eve.
And, you know, uh people not w without the moral clarity to see that Israel was the victim of a terror attack.
And 30, you know, uh all these people die at over 1,300 Israelis.
If you compare their population to ours, it would be the equivalent of 38,000, and and people support Hamas.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that, uh, Senator.
John, I I I gotta tell you, I was it was devastating to see people in our own country marching and celebrating an absolute terrorist organization for the annihilation of our Jewish brothers and sisters.
Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map, but they don't stop there.
There are two more steps.
The second step is to eliminate all Jews anywhere on the planet, and the third is to compromise and then destroy Western democracies.
And I gotta tell you, if any of those students on college campuses are foreign nationals on a visa, they should be sent back to their country.
Anyone who stands up and who says they want to kill Jews, they support terrorism, they should have that visa revoked.
But having so many, I guess what shocked me a little bit, and I uh I thought at this point in my life, my career, I was on shock a bowl.
You know, I I'm I'm having a hard time understanding the the the volume of people, the the number of supporters, that that's what shocked me.
Yes, I I tell you, I think we have we're living in an alternate universe where the radical left continues to sow seeds of division and polarization, and they want to have a story about the oppressor and the oppressed.
We've seen that, I've said it so many times, John, that the fact is that the radical left will use anybody, any group, any issue to hold on to their power here at home.
They want to divide America on racial lines and on class lines, and globally, they want to put people in positions of being the oppressor, and they come to the defense of the oppressed, no matter how inconsistent with human history that story actually is, and that's exactly what they're doing.
This is where the indoctrination of our young people versus the versus the education of our young people is so important.
We have to stop indoctrinating college students and high school students that America is the is evil or that Western democracies are somehow oppressors.
Can you explain, for example, Ivy League institutions and some thirty plus Harvard groups blaming Israel and only Israel uh for being a victim of terror attack?
Now, I I thought as a country, I thought we we kind of had consensus on the idea that you don't blame victims.
What happened?
You're you're right.
Well, I can't explain what is unexplainable.
It's like you said, you've never been stumped in all of your years of being on radio and telling the truth.
I gotta tell you, I've been around for 58 years, and I've never been more disappointed in a large group of people who gather in New York and and in Michigan and in Chicago to celebrate terrorists.
There is no way for you or I for us to explain the devastation and frankly the delusion of people marching in the streets of America, I I can't explain it, John.
It's just unexplainable.
So what should what should the Biden uh administration's position be?
What should America's positions be?
If you were president, what would your position be?
The number one thing I would say is number one, we always stand with our allies.
We will be loyal to our allies, we will be lethal to our collective adversaries.
Number one.
Number two, we should provide all the support, resources, weaponry, and emotional support to the nation of Israel and their people who have been murdered, who have been beheaded, burned, raped, their families need our collective support.
And we should say to the IDS, until Hamas is wiped off the face of the earth, there can be no ceasefire.
The only time to have a ceasefire is when they're all dead.
I'm talking about Hamas.
They have to be wiped out.
They are an existential threat to the to the existence of Israel.
And the next thing I would do is make sure that we have our special operation forces prepared to rescue Americans being held.
It is so important.
You take an American, it should cost you your life, and I am willing to use our mighty fighting force, our special operations to rescue those Americans.
Do you you know I'd love to be honest and say I really am optimistic that we're going to be able to get these hostages.
Now we we we think as many as 150 and a number of them, dozens perhaps Americans.
We know now the figure has gone up 30 Americans killed in these terror attacks.
So however, having been there during conflict, even and having been right at the Gaza border, uh in a town where 10,000 rockets had been fired into this town Salut for over the last ten years, and uh the kids can't play outside because it only takes 13 seconds for a missile launched in Gaza to reach this this border Israeli town.
And I my question is I don't know how you can accomplish a mission like that.
Number one, Gaza's pretty big overall.
I mean, it's gonna take some significant intelligence or maybe the intelligence they already have embedded in the ground there to to find out the location, and that then is the only hope we have that I can think of.
I don't think you're wrong.
One of the things that we've been um we've admired about uh Israel for a very long time is their the high level, high quality of their intelligence agency.
I know that we've seen a breakdown at least from all signs of the intelligence uh gathering.
There is human intelligence embedded on the ground.
I would suggest that there is a way for us to do it, but the way that we should expect is for the IBF to go into Gaza and to do what is almost impossible to do, which is to go home into home, street to street, neighborhood to neighborhood, and thoroughly and meticulously root out and eliminate neutralizing the actual threat, which is Hamas, and through that process, find Americans, find hostages.
One of the things that we have to remember, Don, is the importance of the complete siege.
Tunning off resources into Gaza, particularly that portion of Gaza is one of the ways that we cause so much pain that they want to concede our position, eliminate the pain by giving us our hostages back.
Let's talk about Iran and their role in this and all the reports that they did the plotting and the planning and of of this, the CUDs forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards involvement, Lebanon, Hezbollah, uh, and and both Gaza and Hamas.
Uh what should how should the world be dealing with Iran at this time?
Well, one of the things I've been saying for a long time is I find Joe Biden to be complicit because the weakness from the presidency actually always has invited conflict.
The negotiations from this president paid for much of the resources in this conflict.
Six billion dollars has made Joe Biden complicit.
That money is fungible.
We've had that conversation multiple times.
The average American gets it, only the elite miss it.
And then third, when you tell Israel to stand down or refrain immediately after being attacked, you're on the wrong page.
What we do with Iran is we put the price of every single American hostage on their balance sheet.
There has to be a consequence to Iran for the support they provide to Hamas.
And if we see any action from Hezbollah, we need to raise that price, and that means the greatest deterrent we have for future attacks is to go to the source of the money that provides them with the ability to attack, and that is Iraq.
Quick break more with South Carolina Senator Tim Scott and your call's coming up.
All right, we continue with Senator Tim Scott, uh, the Senator from the great state of South Carolina, also presidential candidate, Tim Scott.
Let me ask you about what's going on in the House and this battle for speaker.
Uh I see that I triggered a number of the s uh the snowflakes over the weekend by by asking, I think, relevant questions, because I think urgency is is paramount.
And do you have any plans, you know, of when you can open the house?
And lastly, would you ever choose to work with Democrats because of all those reports that some Republicans are considering working with Hakeem Jeffries, which is insanity to me and not leadership.
Do You see anything wrong with me asking as a talk show host, uh uh a member of the press, those questions?
Of course not.
That just sounds like common sense.
Let me just go back to my house phase before I tell you what I think is cool clearly obvious.
I have worked with Gheleese with Kevin McCarthy, with Jim Jordan.
Jim Jordan supported Kevin McCarthy to be speaker.
The one thing I can tell you about all three men, I thought it was disgusting to see Scalise bow out of the race because Nancy Mace talked about him being a part of some kind of white supremacy.
I remember those days.
I remember Cedric Richmond, a black Democrat who came to the defense of Steve Scalise because they had had such a relationship for 20 years.
It only made sense to me that we should be proud of our members of Congress who want to lead Kevin McCarthy or Steve Scalese.
I will tell you on Jim Jordan, the one thing you can count on is he is a man of integrity.
He has strong credibility.
He is more conservative than some.
But what we need in America now is a united Republican party.
Because the road to socialism runs right through the divisions in our party.
They should get behind closed doors, settle the speakers' race, change the rules until after November 2024, that you can't change the speaker.
Because instead of us talking about the refugee crisis that could be on our doorstep when you have presidential candidates who are softening their position, instead of us talking about the crisis on our southern border, where we're seeing 70,000 Americans die.
But Sean, we're seeing nationals come from Yemen and from Iran and China.
Instead of us talking about the devastation of the bynomic or seeing the insight of the Republican Party distracting us from what's to have the people the people's house closed at this time.
I I I think plenty of time now has passed.
Uh like you, I didn't like the rule that you know, any member at any time can close down the house and vacate the chair.
I don't like it, especially with a slim majority, because you know, any four or five people can just, you know, take over the house at that point.
Um, and I think it just leads to chaos, which is unfolding now, and I just think the issues before us are too urgent not to have a speaker.
Totally agree with you.
That's one of the reasons why if Jim Jordan is the nominee today, get it done.
What I should what we should all say, if I were President of the United States, Sean, the one thing I would say to my party, the great opportunity party, is that we're going to focus on the future of this nation.
Let's stop focusing on ourselves.
Let's do the people's work, and that requires a speaker to be approved.
And if you only have 221 votes, you need two eighteen, figure it out and get it done today.
And don't go home.
Don't leave the room.
Don't take a bathroom break until it's done.
Because as President of the United States, we need to be about the people's business.
We have a crisis on our borders, a crisis international, and it is time for us to have a single-minded focus.
All right, Senator Tim Scott from the great state of South Carolina.
Senator, always great to have you.
Thank you, sir.
Look forward to uh talking to you again soon.
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All right, let's get to our busy, busy uh telephones.
Mark is in Connecticut.
Hey Mark, how are you?
Glad you called.
Happy Monday.
Hey Sean, how are you?
Thanks for taking my call.
What's going on?
Well, you know, the other uh day we were talking about even today, uh over the weekend with all it's developed in the Middle East, and we're talking about the college campuses and how there's so much uh what seems to be support for the Palestinian cause.
And kind of, you know, a little at a time we're noticing the media uh putting more emphasis on uh the Israelis almost seemingly being at fault for what's taking place.
And we know that that's just a ridiculous um stance to take.
When do we start blaming victims?
I don't know when that started.
Exactly.
And I don't live that far away from uh the campus at Yale.
And a friend of mine was telling me this this past weekend, uh, when driving through that area, there's tons of signs and uh hanging out from windows and even uh groups gathering in there.
All of them are pro-Palestinian.
And being, are they really pro-Palestinian or are they pro-Hamas?
You know, what where did all of Right, you know, where did this all come from?
In other words, did it come it came from and it's a result of the terrorist attack that killed 1,300 Israelis, correct?
Correct.
So happen on our college campuses.
They're certainly not criticizing the terrorists that were responsible for it.
I don't think they even know what they're talking about, except that, you know, oh, the there seems to be this antipathy towards Israel and this desire to blame Israel.
But again, on college campuses, that if you dare utter a word, you know, that is deemed politically incorrect or not, quote, in line with being woke, what happens?
You know, you're censored, you're shut out, you may even be kicked out, but it's okay to support people that committed acts of terror.
You know, how did we get so upside down?
Just lost that call, unfortunately.
If he we can get him back, oh let's try.
Uh Mario in the free state of Florida.
What's up, Mario?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, thank you so much for taking my call.
I appreciate what you do.
Thank you.
My concern is that this horrific act by Hamas and via Iran is so outrageous.
What bothers me most is that the Jewish people as a whole consist of about 8 million people, give or take.
And about 76% of these same people continue to vote for the Democratic Party.
Now, what I don't understand is the two terms of Obama and another term of Biden.
Each administration has turned a blind eye and allowed Iran to be flush with cash.
And basically, well, they really started becoming flush with cash when Joe Biden became president because Joe Biden didn't put the same restrictions on them.
Joe Biden's the one that made a uh the paym uh deal for ransom payment of allowing the six billion dollars to be freed that was being held in South Korea, it moved to uh a bank and cutter, and and thankfully, because of public pressure, that stopped.
But, you know, I'm sure Joe wants to find another way to have quote peace with the mullahs that chant death to Israel and death to America.
What I don't understand, Sean, is why that can the Jewish people as a population here in the United States continue to vote for a party that allows Iran to bolster their their oil, their wealth, knowing full well that they want to wipe Israel off the earth.
It's like the Jewish people when they vote are giving Iran via the president of the Democratic Party a loaded gun.
Well, I I'm I'm just telling you, I don't understand why there's any ambiguity and there's not full-on agreement and moral clarity over this issue.
I just put would say it that way.
You know, why is there this sympathy towards you know, why isn't there sympathy towards the people of Israel?
Again, it's a small country, about the size of New Jersey, extrapolate out the the population, thirteen hundred Israelis killed of that we know.
We have a number over a hundred and about a hundred, hundred and fifty hostages.
And you extrapolate out, and and by the way, we have the most brutal evidence of human atrocities you could ever imagine, including b children that were beheaded and charred to death, burned to death, uh, and all these other reports.
And and why isn't there worldwide condemnation and outrage against the people that initiated this, started this seemingly out of nowhere?
Do you think the Jewish population will see the light and decide that Democrats are not the way to go, and maybe uh vote Republican or have a larger percentage vote Republican?
I I don't know the answer to that.
You know, I have I have many friends that you know are Jewish American and and they're most of them are flabbergasted that the overwhelming overall demographic percentage does vote democrat.
They don't get it.
The president that does has done more for Israel in our lifetime, even though many promised it to move the Capitol to Jerusalem and has supported supported them in so many other ways, that guy was Donald Trump.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All right, uh appreciate the call, Mario.
Thank you.
All right, Mark Mark is back in Connecticut.
Mark, I was gonna give you the final word.
You get it.
Go ahead.
Thanks, uh, Sean.
No, and I was just gonna conclude by saying, you know, a lot of it has to do with what indoctrination.
It has to do with what the media is putting out there, which is all pro against Israel and trying to make it look like they're the ones who are at fault and have brought this upon themselves.
And it's the same thing in our school system, you know, especially in our colleges.
Are we vetting professors?
What are we doing?
Uh are we are we stuck in a never-ending uh uh cycle of just ultra-liberal left-wing professors that are filling our our kids' heads with these ideas, and how else are they going to react other than the way that they do when this is the kind of information that they're being fed?
The the the indoctrination that is taking place in schools, our college campuses in particular, I mean, it's like uh it has been going on since the 60s, and it has only gotten worse over time.
And they are indoctrination centers.
They look, I had this own my own battle with this, you know, going back some of the years I was in college.
I remember being at NYU at one point arguing with the professor every single solitary day, a guy that said he was a Marxist and a communist.
Said it right up front, and I'm like sitting in the back row.
I like Ronald Reagan.
Well, that that turned into some interesting conversation.
And you know, I think it's not true.
Why can't you why is it so it's any longer allowed on a campus grounds of Harvard University?
Uh a tenure law professor.
They won't even allow us to have a debate with me moderating with two of their former professors, Dershowitz versus Cornell West.
Now, what does that tell you about free speech on college campuses?
We already know about conservatives ostracized from there, right?
Exactly.
All right, my friend, good call.
Uh I appreciate it.
Thank you.
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Chad is next.
Sean, hey, good afternoon.
Happy Monday to you.
You know, uh it's always Happy Monday.
You gotta pick up your phone, my friend.
Oh sorry about that.
And it's always great to get to the busy phone lines, especially start off the week.
A couple of things here.
You know about the House speakership, it's in in a way it's I don't want to say a joke, but you know there's so many things to go through of the ousting of Kevin McCarthy.
There's battling in our own in our own party versus just trying to change obviously trying to go against I don't want to say our enemy but obviously going against the Democratic Party, everything they're doing, which is the insane Democratic Party.
And then ousted Kevin McCarthy.
You know what in January they almost they almost ousted him out then and so fast forward nine months later it finally comes to fruition.
It it's really it's really eye opening but not a surprise to see turmoil inside one specific party of the government the one third of the government.
So let I didn't think Steve Skillish would get it.
I you know we all love him everything that he's been through you know surviving the the the attack of the ballfield what when when Trump wasn't president so that was just you know that that was something that we all like him for.
I believe it does need to be Jim Jordan.
The guy's not afraid to get his dick in to get his hands dirty.
He'll take off the button he'll take off the suit roll up the sleeves and go and go to work for the American people not just for Ohio and but also for Americans here.
So let's hope that gets ratified quickly.
I I just can't believe that we have some Republicans and all these reports that some Republicans would consider working with Democrats to pick the next speaker.
Uh and when I read that I'm like that's not leading and that is a s absolute guarantee way to lose power in elections and frankly deservedly so get your act together.
You know at this point in history we we really don't have time to have the people's house closed.
That's my opinion.
Get your act together get a speaker get consensus.
It's not everyone's gonna be it's not going to be their favorite it doesn't matter.
This is find the things that you unite that you unite on, you know, that unite you as a Republican and go to work on those things.
Because every passing day to me, you guys look stupid and incapable of leading.
That's what it looks like to me.
It does it it's kind of an insult to the Republican Party for anybody who votes in a replic Republic Republican party so you know McCarthy we may not always like him he's real soft spoken or whatever and I don't want to say he's a yes man but you know we just had to go go with Kevin made one mistake and that was back in May on the budget deal.
That was one and they didn't get the budget appropriations done I thought they took too much time off in August.
They should have been all over this so it was a little slower.
However they could have gotten it all done if they stuck together.
That is correct and that I believe it's got to be Jim Jordan.
He's he's aggressive he's not soft spoken like McCarthy and what you were saying about you know X amount of uh these Republicans were talking with X amount of uh Democrats it's that's crazy because you Sean you say it best every time it's not every two and four years.
You know Democrats and Liberal Party they see as Republicans are racist they're sexist homophobic xenophobic Lomophobic transphobic they want dirty air and water they want children to die and then want to throw grandma and grandpa over a cliff from Maine, Newt ignorance, John Banner, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, and now a Jim Jordan luckily so to a degree I understand both parties have to come to an agreement but when it comes to this it's a little bit of a joke it really is.
Lastly you know what's going on across the world is it's it's sickening.
It's heartbreaking a lot of it I can't watch not that I don't want to I just it it it's painful to watch you know and one thing we all know and not to have a political something political about it there's no way and you know what that this would be going on much at to a degree not even a limited to the extent of it if DJT was still the president because we got a president now what's the toll thirty plus Americans killed?
And what is he doing about it?
The guy can't even walk up a stage without tripping with the handrail next to him.
To end this on a good note, Sean.
I made a friend here recently, and she's from Long Island, New York, and she's here in a Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, and she absolutely loves it.
Just be careful.
Make sure that, you know, the people that are liberal that ruined states like New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, that you know, tell them they can stay in their respective states, and if they're going to bring their idiotic ideas and policies with them.
Oh, Sean, she's here for the right reasons.
The main one, her oldest daughter's here in a two in our three grandsons, but she we got a little political talk.
I didn't want to do that after the third or fourth time we spoke.
And she said, NY NYC is an absolute disgrace.
We gotta get Trump back in.
And that's when I knew, okay, this girl's solid.
But I mean, she talked just like Linda in in let like in Larissa Domain, New York, and Dubuque Skylark, and I can't help but just kind of chuckle when she and I are talking.
But I wanted to end this on a good note from Long Island, New York.
First person I thought of when she said that's where she's from.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
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