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Uh I'm not sure if you saw this poll that has come out, Insider Advantage, that's Matt Towery.
Uh and it actually said, and it's a legitimate survey.
And anyway, uh the results are in, and they're asking, you know, who among the potential candidates for the next speaker.
You came out overwhelmingly as the leader with 53%, and I'm not laughing.
I'm just laughing because I know I know what your response is going to be.
Uh the next highest was Jim Jordan with 11%, Steve Scalise for 3%, and then uh Tom Emmer, Ali Stepanick, uh two, and and then a bunch of, you know, people at 1%.
Well, what's your reaction that you got 53%?
And by the way, unsolicited names here.
They just that they did tell people that it doesn't have to be an acting member of Congress.
Well, I mean, first of all, I'm the only person on that list who ran for president.
Uh I've been on your show so often, people probably think I'm their neighbor.
Um, I think they just think you're my co-host, that's all.
Yeah.
Well, that'd be a great honor.
But um, you know, I think there's also when I wrote uh March the majority, a lot of people come up to me and had sort of a nostalgia for what we had accomplished with the contract and what we'd accomplished in balancing the federal budget for four years and reforming welfare.
Yeah, so all that, you know, I think, you know, leads to a misleading number.
I mean, first of all, the only numbers that count are inside the conference, not in public opinion.
Second, uh I've said over and over again, you no one can be speaker who's not in the Congress.
It's just technically impossible.
Because you've got to be able to know the members really well.
You've got to be able to manage them.
Uh, you have to have insights, you have to be able to help them campaign.
Well, you you would have to go back to living there like you did during the years you were speaker.
Um you may not remember this, but I remember it and I remember it well.
Um, you know, th this was when we really developed the this our strong, you know, brotherhood friendship that we have, although we first met in 1990.
Um, but I was I was your MC the night you became speaker.
But I remember at one point I I was with you and I just said I said you've got to be exhausted.
And you you actually said something to me that I never thought I'd feel myself, but I have many times more than I care to admit.
You said that you're so tired that there's always this feeling and in the innermost part of your brain that you know you're exhausted, but there's just no time to ever take a breath or or rest the way you should.
And that was your life.
And and you did it well, and you're right.
You know, you brought Republicans to power for the first time in 40 years.
You were a genuine revolutionary.
You said it, you were right.
Uh, and you're the only, you know, you you were the only speaker of the house in how many years prior, and it hasn't happened since uh to bring how many balanced budgets in a row?
Four.
Four.
The only four in the only four in your lifetime, but but remember this.
After helping elect the first majority in 40 years, the first re-elected majority since 1928, reforming welfare, cutting taxes, reforming Medicare by creating Medicare Advantage, balancing the federal budget for four straight years, reforming the FDA, etc.
I was blocked from running for a third term because there were 19 members who said to me basically what Getz said to McCarthy, they would not vote for me to become Speaker in 1999.
Do you remember I don't remember the exact reasons why do and I'm sure you do.
What were those reasons?
Well, the reason they were against me was I wasn't reliable.
Oh good carefight.
Listen, through the prism of history, that just is simply dumb.
Uh isn't it really because I know some of the names involved in this, uh, isn't it that they really wanted to take over?
But the House in part is a is a collection of four hundred and thirty-five high school class presidents.
And all these folks win elections, and they all have a legitimate service for their people, and occasionally run to somebody whose ego is so large that they're kind of deranged.
I think Getz is in that tradition.
I think there were several people uh who tried it who took me out who were in that position.
But my point is By the way, people were very angry with you last night uh because you were I know.
By the way, not that you care.
I'm just I'm just uh in in case you you didn't see it, I did.
Well, we got the same thing on social media, and my point to people was look, you're wrong.
That's a good way to handle it.
That's one way to handle it.
Let me let me ask you this.
First of all, I'm I'm asking a serious question.
Would you ever consider it?
No.
No.
I didn't think you would.
No.
By the way, you're really equivocating here.
I think I could talk you into it if I had another five minutes.
Um I'm gonna tell you who my choice is at this point.
Now, you know, yesterday happened, it's history as far as I'm concerned.
It doesn't have to be a disaster, and it really does need to be resolved quickly, because I think the patience of the American people will run out very quickly.
And and they don't want to see chaos and disorder.
Jim Jordan has thrown his hat in the ring.
Jim Jordan is the guy that I think is best able to take over this caucus.
Am I wrong?
I don't know.
I I look, Scalise, I think he's also gonna run.
He's majority leader.
I like Scalise, but he's also struggling health wise right now.
Well I know.
So I mean my my view is the conference will meet next Tuesday.
They will listen to the various candidates, all of whom will have been lobbying all weekend and campaigning all weekend, and the conference needs to pick somebody they can unify around, and then they've got to deal with these eight people.
Uh and I I am for whoever the conference picks.
I like Solis very much, I like Jordan very much.
We we have a great relationship with both of them.
Uh, but you know, and there are other people who might run, so I I wouldn't want to discount anybody, but I think the conference has to look into itself and say, who can unify us, who has the endurance and the patience and the toughness to get us through the next year and a half, and who has the energy to go out and and increase our margin, because frankly, if Kevin had had twenty more Republicans, that none of this would have happened.
Well, that increasing the margins is key.
Not leading and not keeping your promises is a surefire way of losing that majority.
And you know, I by the way, I think abortion played a much bigger role than anybody ever thought in twenty twenty two, and that is the overturning of Roe and the Dobbs decision and the demagoguing by the Democrats and all that.
Um I don't know if this is going to be possible or not, because I do think that there are a few renegade Republicans out there that are going to insist on this one person uh has the ability to to bring forth the motion to vacate.
All all business stops when that happens.
And I give McCarthy a lot of credit.
He could have delayed this vote, he could have lobbied regarding this vote.
He could have cut a deal with the Democrats regarding it.
He didn't.
He just let it fly.
And basically said, you know what, this is gonna play out the way it plays out.
That he didn't have to handle it that way, and I give him credit for handling that way.
Yeah, and I tell them eventually they're gonna have to change the rule.
You know, technically, the House conference rule requires that a member of the House conference has to have a majority of the members with them when they make that motion.
So Getz, of course, totally ignored that.
Um and uh and I think it's you know this is this is why they're gonna they're gonna have to really think about uh changing the rules of the conference.
I mean I d I I would personally argue and this is why one of the reasons I'd never be considered but I would personally argue one they should kick Getz out of the conference.
He's he is an anti Republican.
What he accomplished yesterday was having eight people side with the Democrats.
I don't think that's a good idea.
I think when you have a four vote majority really or five votes whatever the number is honestly we we we can't afford to lose anybody.
Well you've already lost him.
Not on not on significant issues involving the border or budget or whatever.
You know look I I will say this some of his criticism was accurate.
You know what?
Kevin McCarthy did say he'd return a regular order appropriations bills.
Um by the way I think you are the last speaker to ever do that.
And it hasn't happened since then and and these omnibus bills continuing resolutions although there were two great continuing resolutions that would have cut spending in one case by eight percent another case by thirty percent both would have you know the second one would have included HR two which is the Republican border bill and and yet they're supposed to be conservative and they didn't even want to go along with that bill which means that this was an agenda to get rid of Kevin.
J just to make some of our our listeners even better they need to remember the people who represented the districts Joe Biden carried they all voted for those bills.
That's true.
The the hardline conservatives who are so proud because they're so conservative they voted against bills that would have been remarkable historic achievements.
So I mean as and I'm deliberately as tough as I am about gigs.
Uh you cannot have a snake sitting in the middle of your of your room and think you're ever going to be safe.
And if he can go to the Democrats and he remember he beat ninety six percent of the conference.
Ninety six percent and if he can do that and get away with it then what's the next game and what's the game after that?
There's no end to it potentially there's no end to it.
Right.
But well this is this is why I would say one member's right up to to start a motion to vacate it's gotta go.
Now that may end up in uh you know a hung conference.
I mean I g if if he's gonna die on that hill and he's got you know six guys with him or eight guy eight people in total with him then there'll be no speaker until there's a resolution there.
Right.
And and at that point frankly there ought to be people in those districts who are prepared to run in the primaries because these people are anti Republicans.
Well he has one of the safest districts in the entire country he's got the panhandle of Florida.
Not in a primary at the end of the day I I I would rather avert that if possible and get back to the business of governing because I think the longer this sort of crap goes on I think the odds are that the American people's patience will run thin they're either going to win together or they're gonna lose together.
Am I wrong?
Well yeah but why don't you no not necessarily it's sometimes it's all just a disaster for a while and then you sort it out.
Remember that Washington arrives at Valley Forge with one shovel and one axe and an army of fourteen thousand because some of the members of the Continental Congress wanted to fire him so they wanted him to fail.
So you know sometimes it's a snake pit and sometimes you've got to work your way through it.
But I but I have a simple test for you.
By the way it's a sewer yes go ahead what's my test I I love Professor Gingrich.
Go ahead I'm probably gonna fail.
Go ahead.
You you call Guetz and ask him will he say publicly and put in writing that he will never ever again do this.
This was one time it was former I the I could tell you what the answer is the answer's gonna be no I'll never make that pledge.
Right well then why the hell would you let him in the room?
Well if it's gate all right if it's all right so look l let's take let's play this out to the next step.
Okay, so he and his eight you know cohorts go off and and they're independent.
They don't affiliate with the Republicans then what Hakeem Jeffries is a speaker?
Maybe.
That would be more honest than having them pretend well in between backstabbings.
But let me put it to you this way.
You're basically saying call is bluff and either you're gonna get on the team or not.
That's what you're saying.
Right.
I look it has to be team.
Do you you do agree they'll either succeed or fail as one unit, and there won't be winners or losers independently.
Right.
So I want to give you a team analogy.
I'm a big University of Georgia fan.
Number one team in the country.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but Michigan's gonna beat them this year.
We'll see.
They go out to play.
Well, okay, so they're playing Michigan.
Kidding, go ahead.
Yeah, and okay, and the offensive guard for Georgia turns and tackles his own quarterback.
It's not a good that would not be good.
That would not be good.
You let it do you let him back in the hotel?
I don't think so.
But I think you're right.
I mean, you know, uh when you have a slim majority like this, this is where I I've been trying to if he'll sign a commitment to not do this again for the rest of this Congress.
I would consider letting him stay.
But if he won't sign that commitment, he's gone.
And he should be gone.
Because the guy who walks in the room saying to you, I reserve the right to stab you in the back, why would you have him to room?
You know what the problem is gonna be?
Rather than moving forward, Republican infighting is gonna result in the uh the the American people being fed up.
They're gonna get sick, and I'm not talking about the base that will be solidly in Matt's corner.
I'm not talking about the people that say this was unnecessary.
I could look at my calls right now and it's split right down the middle.
And I could tell you this division doesn't help in the end.
It would be far better to come to a consensus.
For example, if Jim Jordan wins the speakership, he should be able to serve out the rest of this Congress.
I agree with you.
That deal should be struck.
Well, I mean, how hard is it for gets to say, okay, this was a one-time thing, and I promise for the rest of this Congress, I will neither do it nor support it.
All right, but listen.
And if you won't do that, why would you let him in the room?
It's gonna be interesting to watch this play out.
Uh anyways, Speaker Gingrich, we always love having you on.
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Brock is in Iowa.
Brock, all eyes headed to uh well, not Democratic eyes, because Joe didn't like the the way Iowa Democrats voted for him in the last uh caucus.
So he's gonna be skipping your state.
He's gonna be skipping over the granite state, the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
And he's going to the state that he believes he'll win easily, which is South Carolina.
Yeah, why wouldn't you, right?
Yeah.
Well, I would have I I'm definitely in favor of keeping Iowa as the first in the nation caucus and New Hampshire first in the nation primary states.
I agree a hundred percent.
Um, quite going to see you um Donald Trump Saturday in Waterloo.
But um by the way, are you in a bathroom?
Where are you?
I'm in the office at work.
Okay.
You on a speaker phone?
Nope.
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Much better, yes.
Okay.
So um I said I just said I was going to see Donald Trump Saturday is gonna be at Cattle Congress in Waterloo.
So looking forward to that.
But um, I was not a fan of the ousting of McCarthy, and my thought was there was a lot of talk that he voted so much with Democrats, which he did some, but every single Democrat voted to get rid of him plus eight Republicans.
I mean, if you got this I somebody said golden goose, why would you want to get rid of him that fast?
Um interesting question.
Uh look, I think Speaker McCarthy, I've I've gone through the list of what I think are successes.
Um I think a trap was set for him, and by the way, i it was not uh a shock or surprise.
Matt Gates was very transparent.
He wanted the appropriations bill, he wanted regular order on spending.
And when it didn't happen, you know, this became inevitable.
Uh I think the mistake was actually made back in July and August.
I think they should have all gotten ahead of this.
And I I think Speaker McCarthy let way too much time pass before really going head strong into this, and I think he should have, you know, come up with the 12 appropriations bill.
So far they've only passed four.
It's about 70% of the budget, but it's not the whole budget.
And that wasn't what his promise was.
And but he knew that, you know, look, I could tell you because I know for a fact it's personal between them.
It's been that way for a long time.
And, you know, but with that said, you know, does it have to be a catastrophe for the Republicans?
No, not at all.
May end up Jim Jordan as speaker, you know, and Republicans move forward.
I don't know how this is going to play out.
It there is a risk.
It can be a disaster.
I'm hoping they don't go down that road.
They're gonna have to move, in my view, and move very quickly, get a new speaker and get back to work.
That's what they need to do.
I couldn't agree more, man.
I just uh just makes me nervous.
But uh you have a good day, God bless you, brother, and you have a good one, all right.
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Where in Alabama are you?
No, actually I'm in Phoenix, Arizona.
I don't know why it's Katie, why did you put up George and Alabama?
He's not in Alabama, he's in Phoenix.
What happened?
I'm so sorry.
No worries.
I mean, it's not the a travesty.
You know, you don't worry About you know Katie's so good at her job, she's allowed to make an occasional minor error.
That's all I would not describe this as a felony case.
George, how about for today?
You could be from Alabama and give Katie a break.
What do you think?
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Help them out.
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George, help me out.
Okay, Katie, I'm I'm all on your side.
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I appreciate you taking my call.
Well, I was you said to come up with a plan.
Here's here's a nice plan.
How about every lawmaker, including the president, does not get paid for continuing resolutions, okay, and they don't get retrospective pay if they shut down the government.
I'm all for that.
I have no problem with that.
Do your job.
What I'm thinking is is that you know what?
The next speaker that comes up, put it to the to the vote.
Okay, and anybody that votes against it, then we obviously know they only give us about power and uh in uh money.
Now on this show, you have to replace that word with the name Schiff.
So say that sentence over and say shif.
We have to we have to replace that shift with uh uh but anyway, it would be it would be veto proof in my in in in my eyes because whoever wouldn't vote for it um obviously cares more about their power and their own money than they do about the American people, and then we can stop with this uh finger pointing, oh, it's the Republicans shutting it down.
Listen, I want this dumped in the lap of the Senate, because the Senate is where the real spending disaster takes place.
The Senate is, you know, that's the omnibus, that's Mitch McConnell, and on the Republicans, if they put significant real cuts in spending as promised in their bill in the House, if they pass that and stay united and pass it,
if they put real security measures on the border with teeth at it, at that point you hand it off to the Senate, they're gonna mark it up, they're just gonna send it back, it'll be unrecognizable, and then they go through what's called conference.
And whoever is in conference, I would recommend saying we're not changing a thing.
And if you want to close the government down because you want more debt for the American people, go make that case.
If you think that the border doesn't need to be secure, go make that case.
That at that point they're dealing from a position of strength, and they're all standing united on principle, and it's gonna be the people that want open borders and reckless spending that are gonna have to explain their positions to the American people, and they'll be responsible for the government shutdown.
And I'll remind America every single minute of every day if they do that.
At that point, I believe they will have the upper hand because they are right on the issue.
You know, we've just taken in.
Let me let me pull up my economic pile that I got here today.
You know, you know, we have 10-year treasury yields, the highest level since 2007.
A one-year treasury is paying over five percent interest.
I already told my my financial guy, I want you to reduce my exposure to the stock market.
I said, throw it in the the one-year treasury at five plus percent.
Um that's what I've done.
U.S. national debt has jumped 275 billion in one day.
This is a zero hedge.
We're now at 33.442 trillion.
We just hit the 33 trillion mark two weeks ago.
I mean, that means we're gonna be at, you know, 40 trillion by the end of Biden's term.
We cannot continue to do this.
Republicans need to be the party of fiscal responsibility, closed borders, border security, and if they are, I think they'll get rewarded politically for it.
Because everybody can see that Biden's economic energy policies and border policies are a disaster.
They keep lying and saying the borders closed and the economy is great, and they're just lying.
And I'm tired of being lied to.
And I think then put the pressure on House Republicans to stand with, I'm sorry, Senate Republicans to stand with House Republicans, and then the then the pressure should go to Chucky Schumer and Joe E. Biden.
And at that point, they want to shut the government down, let them shut it down.
It's on them.
Yeah, but that's my whole point.
Just don't get paid though for it.
I'm fine with that too.
Then they got to sit their their their butts down, okay, and talk to each other.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, Chip, this is what Chip Roy was offering.
That would have been the short term CR.
Would have given them uh a bridge to pass the twelve appropriations bills.
And anyway, uh George from Alabama, you've been a great caller, buddy.
Thank you.
I appreciate things.
Katie, Katie really thanks you.
Katie, you're the best.
Always sucking up to Katie and Linda.
You notice that, Ethan?
It's such BS.
Oh, yeah.
No, they don't.
They love Katie.
Katie Sweep.
Well, you're not sweet at all.
That's true.
I'm slothy.
Paul in Texas, bail us out of this.
Hello, Paul.
What's going on?
Mr. Hannity, thank you so much for taking my call.
Love the show.
Katie, she's awesome.
So here we go again.
More more sucking up.
Go ahead.
So annoying.
Go ahead.
Sir, I I really appreciate what you do for the country every day and your show and how you uncover all these stocks.
Thank you.
I just want to say, like, I'm um yes, sir.
Thank you.
And I just want to say that I'm I'm really disappointed in the lack of cohesion among the Republicans because this is a game of chest, not checkers.
Even if McCarthy has to make a deal, he has to make a deal.
He has no backup and support on his own side.
So why would he go and die on that hill, knowing uh he's not going to get bailed out by Chuck Shoot by Chuck Schumer, by Mitch McConnell.
You you got Matt Gates with the knife waiting for him.
And then Joe Biden, I mean, he's not even there.
He's not in his box.
Listen, I if Jim Jordan becomes speaker, I want to tell you something.
They're gonna long for the days of McCarthy on the Democratic side, in my view.
That's my my personal view.
I the only thing I don't understand, I don't I did not understand Gates' criticism.
I know he'd like to expedite this.
I know he wants Hunter to be subpoenaed, but you gotta get the bank records.
There's a certain order that I think makes any any appearance of Hunter Biden before Congress that much more relevant if you're hitting him with with real questions.
By the way, and when he does show up, I think he's gonna plead the fifth the whole time anyway.
There's no obligation when you are called before Congress.
Now, if you don't show up, they can hold you in contempt.
We saw them do that to Bannon.
We saw them do that to Peter Navarro.
Uh they don't do it to Democrats.
But all the Navarro and Bannon could could have gone in and just pled the fifth.
And then they could have walked out of there.
No charges on anything.
You're allowed to plead the fifth.
And now to me, you know, not wanting to see, you know, Americans go to jail for no reason.
Uh I think would have been a better strategy, but you know, maybe they they want to make a point.
They're standing on their principles.
I'm not going to be critical of that.
I admire them people that stand on their principles.
All right, man.
Appreciate the call.
We got one minute left.
Uh Jeff in Florida.
Jeff, you got one minute.
Go.
Oh, I hope I can do this in one minute.
First, say Katie is great, and it's a good thing.
Oh, good grief.
You're wasting time.
Go.
Um, my question is, when did these few people on the far right all of a sudden, according to so many speakers today, become allies with the left.
That's where Chip Roy is, you know, people have been mad at Chip Roy um over this.
That's where guys like Chip Roy, Byron Donalds, Scott Perry, you know, they're pretty solid conservatives.
An eight percent cut in spending across the board for a 30-day CR uh that had border security attached to it, HR2 attached to the second plan that he these three guys put together.
I uh I did it didn't make sense to me because that would have resulted in what Matt and others said that they wanted, which was the appropriations process that would have given them bridge time to to vote on all of them and and everything would have been accomplished.
So I didn't think in that sense it was necessary, but you know, in the end, it is it is what it is.
I'm not getting involved in that portion of it.
I'm moving forward.
Um I we don't have time to dwell on the past right now.
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