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If you want to be a part of the program, uh, we've been going over all of this new information we have.
Uh, you know, one FBI supervisor corroborating key aspects of the two IRS whistleblowers testimony, alleging federal prosecutors slow walked Hunter Biden's criminal probe and uh declined last year to bring tax charges in Los Angeles and DC, according to an interview uh transcribed and uh exposed by JustHnews.com.
That's John Solomon, the female FBI supervisor whose name the Justice Department asked in this particular case, uh, be kept uh private in the transcript was interviewed by the House Judiciary.
She chronicled her interactions with Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, those are the two IRS whistleblowers, and the Delaware U.S. attorney David Weiss, and they took, remember, contemporaneous notes, and that's when Weiss said, Well, I don't have the power.
I'm I'm not the decider.
And that is contradicted by his own letters.
You know, he sent conflicting letters to both Jim Jordan and Lindsey Graham as we went into great specificity and detail in the past about uh Merrick Garland's, you know, you know, it seems like in his sworn testimony that David Weiss was the top dog and was free to charge in these other jurisdictions.
That seems to have blown up, you know, pretty severely in their face, and shouldn't surprise anybody.
Uh and now we have this news story that I want to know a lot of detail earlier about.
Gal Luft, the fugitive missing witness in this Biden corruption investigation has now offered new evidence to house the House impeachment inquiry about an FBI mole that tipped off Hunter Biden that his Chinese partner had been named on the four sealed indictments in 2017 by Manhattan Federal Prosecutors.
This is in the Southern District of New York.
And anyway, the the former professor uh Israeli defense uh forces officer who had been on the run six months after skipping bail in Cyprus, he was awaiting extradition of the U.S. on some gun running and foreign lobbying charges, also brought by the SDNY,
but in an open letter, Comer, Jordan, and Jason Smith, three House Committee chairmen running the impeachment inquiry, left claims that the tip-off to the Chinese executives at CEFC came on the exact same day that Hunter wrote that infamous WhatsApp message shaking down the uh another uh CEFC employee for millions of dollars.
I'll make certain between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold the grudge that you'll regret not following my direction.
Uh I'm sitting here with my father waiting for the call.
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Anyway, here to weigh in on these new developments is Devin Nunes, CEO of Truth Social, that's the Trump Media Technology Group, former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
Uh all right, as you now see the walls closing in on the Biden family syndicate, or the Enterprise, if you're in Fulton County, Georgia, as they call it, uh things are not going well for the Biden, so is it?
Well, Sean, great to be with you as always.
And I think the only question that's left out here is whether or not Biden and his family are going to concede that he's an unelectable candidate.
Um I just think you see you see the polling information.
You see that all of this information that's comes for c has come forward.
And I have have argued now for a while with or advised, I guess, is the better is the better term, my former Republican colleagues that Biden is a nice shiny ball out there.
There should be an impeachment inquiry.
Um I don't think he's going to make it through.
Um I just I just don't think he's going to be their nominee.
I think they see him as unelectable.
But what what normal people out there, if you actually look at this, what they're going to ask themselves is how did this happen?
As you were just saying, they had they had this information.
The FBI, the DOJ had information dating back to the Obama administration, and it was all covered up.
How can you have a justice system in this country where connected political families do not get prosecuted like you or I would, Sean.
And I think that's the so what we're really dealing with here is is when does Biden get out of the race and and do the as you are well aware and your audience is well aware.
Team Obama is running the Biden administration.
So at what point does the Department of Justice and the FBI, all of the hacks that were responsible for the Russia hoax, the Ukraine impeachment hoax, all the mistreatment of the January 6th prisoners.
At what point do they uh does the team Obama say, Okay, Joe, you announced your running, we advised you not to.
Susan Rice left the day before he advised, we can we have told you, now you've seen the polling, and that's only because the fake news has been doing a little bit of reporting on it, by the way, Sean.
If you're not going to get out, we are going to go back and look at what else we can prosecute, not only Hunter, but also you, Joe.
And that's there's a ratcheting level of of hostility here within the Democratic Party, Sean.
And of course, you and I know about it, but you know, the fake news knows about it, but they won't report on it.
All right.
So, you know, you were responsible almost you and and frankly, just very few of your colleagues, and you took an enormous amount of heat for it in exposing the the Trump Russia hoax for what it was.
Although I don't know if you noticed this weekend, Hillary revived it.
Oh, don't put it, don't underestimate Trump.
He's gonna do it again.
And she's still fixated on something that has been totally completely and utterly debunked.
Uh I I think even MSDNC is quietly abandoned the Trump Russia hoax lie that they peddled for years and the conspiracy theories that they have peddled for years.
Um so the question here is you know, what you really sound like you're saying to me is that Democrats are gonna be the ones to push Biden out.
It's not gonna be anything Sean Hannity can do on on his television or radio program.
Um we're just exposing this like we exposed the Russia hoax.
And again, it's like unpeeling every layer of the onion, but uh right now we're getting down to the bottom of the onion, and I think there's a lot of issues here that they can't answer for.
Look, I I I think that's exactly right.
They did not, you you know Susan Rice.
I think your audience does too.
She was tight with Obama, one of Obama's top people.
She came into the Biden White House as the domestic uh advisor.
So she was essentially running any everything on the border to what they've done with health care and education, everything else, she was the one calling the shot.
She was there with eight years with Obama as a national security advisor, comes in to do and does domestic policy for Biden.
It's pretty telling that you know nobody's really talked about this, but the day before Biden announces he's running for reelection, she leaves.
So that was the signal that Obama is drawing back.
All his people are there.
They do not want him to run.
It's not by coincidence, Sean, that that just you know, ten days ago, twelve days ago, the fake news who's ignored all of this that we've that you've been exposing for years that like for example CNN even ran a two minute little segment about all of all of uh CNN's lies.
I mean hell I thought I was watching the Sean Hannity show and it was on it was a clip from from CNN.
I thought it was maybe a Babylon B parody.
Exactly right and I've been warning people once once you start losing Maureen Dowd and David Ignatius and Liberal Joe and and Van Jones and James Carville and David Axarod uh you're in trouble.
And and even the tepid support James Clyburn gave for Kamala Harris this weekend is very telling to me on the heels of Nancy Pelosi giving Tepett's res support of both Biden and Harris.
And I'll just add uh one thing and that is it wasn't Republicans that took down Governor Cuomo in New York.
It was Democrats.
That's is that what we're looking at now?
That that's what and I've been saying that now for for several months.
Soon as Susan Rice walked out the door you knew the gig was up.
They did not want him to run and they've been waiting waiting waiting.
They they tried to the the whole sweetheart deal was engineered by Team Obama within the White House and the Department of Justice and the FBI.
All the things you were mentioning these are all Obama accolades.
They they gave the sweetheart deal to Hunter because they wanted to go to Joe and say look we got your son off.
He's gonna get slapped on the wrist it's all going to be buried he'll be there won't be able to be thief nothing else will happen.
And then unfortunately what went wrong in their plan is the federal judge you know rightfully asked some questions and essentially revoked the deal and then that exposed the corruption uh within DOJ and FBI and now Biden is in this you know position where if he doesn't run um then you know he could be exposed and I think he's he he basically it's it's kind of funny what they they actually accused Trump of,
you know, all these people have said Trump's just running because of uh you know all of his his problems the reality is it's Biden who's running because of his problems.
I mean Trump actually wants to fix the country didn't need to run in the first place and you've got Biden who now has to run even and that's why you see the Obama people slowly ratcheting up the pressure.
That's why you've seen his polls collapse and you see the situation where I just don't I I really think Sean at this point even with just this little bit of heat that they've turned on to to Biden I I think he's unelectable at this point and the Democrats know that and they want him gone.
So who replaces him is it Kamala Harris who polls lower than Joe or Gavin Newsom who maybe duff protest a bit too much and we just announced today that we have a red state blue state debate that he asked for actually himself and made the challenge to Ron DeSantis and Ron said yes and I'm moderating that debate is is that a sign that maybe Gavin's more interested that he's letting on he's been praising both Joe and Kamala Harris saying under no circumstances really get in.
So so as you as you know and I'm I grew up in California represented California it's been the world's worst kept secret Gavin Newsom has been running for president long calculating that Biden was going was not going to be able to run.
But now the challenge now is and we're Biden or where Newsom's in this weird position he thought Biden would have already stepped aside and he'd be in a full blown race against say Kamala Harris, maybe the governor of Michigan, but it's not working out in their favor.
So now they're trying to figure out, because the sign-up period starts now.
So they're going to be in this awkward position, and maybe they want it this way, Sean, where essentially the Democratic Party insiders, the Politburo, so to speak, which are all the Obama people, will ultimately have to decide in the back room who their nominee is going to be.
So are they going to choose Gavin Newsom, or are they going to try and coax Michelle Obama into running?
look you and I d aren't on the aren't in the the smoke filled rooms with these guys they don't actually you know call us on the weekends and check out yeah I'm a little shocked by that my feelings are hurt.
But I think you've got it just on the short list is is Newsom who's clearly running and building trying to build coalitions.
I think why is he saying just the opposite knowing those words will come back to haunt them.
I think because well I don't think he's going to challenge Biden.
I think he knows that they're trying to get Biden out.
So all of this is triggered on when will Biden exit the stage.
As long as Biden doesn't exit the stage, it really complicates it for them.
That's why I'm saying they're going to have to go to the smoke-pilled room.
So it's going to be Newsom.
It's going to be the governor of Michigan, Whitmer.
I think you've got Michelle Obama as an outside possibility.
And I'd be looking, you know, maybe a couple senators that you hear them talking about.
That's kind of their short list.
And I think you're right.
They don't want Kamala Harris, even though she's an Obama accolade.
I think the Obama people do not want her now.
I think they've learned their lesson because she's performed...
horribly as vice president I mean she's I think just as unpopular as as Joe.
Actually polls show her more unpopular if you can believe it.
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It's definitely getting interesting.
And it looks like, you know, if you look at every poll, I mean, it really hasn't been erased for a long time in the Republican primary.
President Trump certainly faces, you know, the possibility of four criminal trials, which to me is obscene in an election year, especially because these indictments could have been brought years ago.
They didn't bring them.
And now that they set it up that a trial in venues that I don't think the president can get a fair trial in New York or Washington, D.C. or Fulton County, Georgia, just to name three.
And that would mean that his trials take place in the election year and where we would be more likely to have to to do better, which would be in an appeals court that would take place.
What, after an election?
Are you kidding me?
How is that fair?
How is that not interfering in an election by using this?
Well, look, not only is it interfering, but these cases are all nonsense.
I mean, they're all across the board.
They're ridiculous.
And the American people are seeing it for what it is.
This is the Biden administration going after his political opponent.
But I'm not worried about his base.
His base is rock solid.
How will, let's say he does try, let's say, two of these locations, two of these unfriendly venues, and he gets a guilty verdict.
How will independents, you know, interpret that when they go to the polls?
Sean, I have to think that people are going to, all of this stuff makes no sense.
I think at the end of the day the American people when once they start to pay attention once they get once they get the facts they're going to understand that these are all charges that are that should have never been brought uh that aren't going to stick and and they see it I think what it's done is really galvanized the Republican Party and galvanized independence to say this is not the type of America that we w we want to live in.
A a two-tiered justice system and a wide open border doesn't work and and I think that's why you're gonna see at the end of the day as you know this only comes down to a few states and and it gets down to you know who's gonna show up to vote in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and you know Arizona and Georgia.
That's about it.
It's it's the rest of it's all been decided pretty much.
Alright Devin Nuna, CEO Truth Social that's the and TM uh T G the Trump Media Technology Group.
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Appreciate you being with us.
Great to be with you, Sean.
Thanks a lot.
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Uh so we announced earlier today that uh I will and this kind of came up organically.
Linda, you remember when we were out in California doing the interview with Gavin Newsom, and you know, him and Ron DeSantis have been sniping at each other left, right, and sideways.
And I said, Well, you want to debate him?
He's absolutely any place, any time.
Uh I'll do it on a day's notice.
Uh not exactly, but that's that's the behind the scenes stuff that nobody needs to talk about.
Um, but anyway, so we officially got a date.
It is November 30th, 90 minutes.
I am the moderator, and uh it's gonna be uh the red state versus blue state big debate.
And you know what?
When you look at Florida and you look at California and you you're looking at two very different and distinct governing philosophies.
And I don't care if it's about immigration, yeah, California and amnest you know, an amnesty state.
Um, you know, uh which I think is insane.
And yeah, it's you you look at cow uh uh Florida and they're like, no, you have to come into the country legally, you have to be in the state of Florida legally.
And anyway, so you look at the issue of law and order and safety and security.
There couldn't be bigger distinctions.
You look at the issues of taxation, you look at the issues of homelessness and and drug use, etc.
etc.
All of it, I I just don't think you can have two different states than these two.
And I think it'll be very interesting, very informative, and uh anyway, I kind of look forward to it.
I haven't asked you all day.
What do you think of it?
Um, hmm.
I don't know.
Um I'm a little mixed on this one.
I'm not gonna lie.
I have very, very strong, unfriendly feelings for Gavin Newsom.
Um, and that's me being very kind and FCC compliant.
Uh why can't you just say you think it's gonna be interesting?
not that hard.
DeSantis, I just I love Ron DeSantis.
I I've liked him since he was a congressman.
I love that he served our country.
I think he was a dedicated husband to a young wife who had cancer.
I mean, there's just there's not a whole lot I don't like about him.
He is a man of his word, and he's done really amazing things for the state of Florida.
I mean, there's really no two ways about it.
You know, Gavin Newsom is literally um I I don't think that he is worth the tissue that Ron blew his nose in.
I think it's silly for him to even be on the stage on with him.
But when you have two people that disagree, like California, the sanctuary, I said amnesty, sanctuary state.
Yeah, okay.
That's the opposite of what Ron DeSantis believes.
Law and order.
You know, look at their positions on energy.
Look at their positions on every major issue.
Abortion.
It couldn't be more diametrically opposed.
Well, let me ask you a question.
And by the way, what do you hope to get out of it?
What do you want to get out of it?
I think I think the country's gonna see two very different and and unique governing philosophies, and I think they'll determine in their own minds based on as we bring up every topic.
You know, are we better off being a sanctuary state, or are we better off with secure borders?
Are we better off, you know, with no fossil fuels, which Gavin Newsom made that comment last week about fossil fuels uh and and wanting to go to the house?
Yeah, he made that comment while he was flying to New York in his private jet.
Like he I'll be fair to him, because I did have final conversation with him this weekend.
He said no, I was on jet blue.
That story's false.
That's what he said.
Okay, sure.
Well, I don't I I have no evidence to the contrary, so I'm just giving it Well, I'll tell you what, when he posts his jet blue stub, I will believe him.
I don't think he would have told me that if he was lying.
I just he it's too easily checked.
Is his mouth moving?
Yeah, he's lying.
Like to me, there's just ouch.
Yeah, I don't care for him at all.
I think he's just thinking bad for our kids, too.
And whenever it comes to kids and puppies and kittens and you know, just things that can't take care of themselves and you hurt them, I'm like, mm-hmm I kind of hate you.
You know, people think that maybe there's some presidential implications behind this, and I don't really think there is.
I think you got two guys that hate each other, clearly.
They've been sniping at each other.
And my attitude is okay, instead of doing it, you know, behind uh, you know, the press as a filter, why don't you do it face to face?
Listen, Gavin Newsom is not running for president, and if he does, he is going to crash and burn.
First of all, you know, and Ron DeSantis is gonna wipe the floor with him.
It's not even gonna be a fair fight.
It's gonna be very hard for you to moderate this, in my opinion.
I don't think so.
Why do you think it's gonna be hard?
Because it you're gonna be trying to give time to somebody who can't string a sentence together because nothing he's saying is true.
Well, Gavin's very hard.
I'm not saying he's an articulate.
I'm just saying that when his mouth is moving, he's lying.
So at what point that would be up to Ron to correct him.
And I'm sure Ron will come in.
He's gonna be a good thing.
So you're not gonna say anything.
You're not gonna get involved.
No, I'm gonna no, I'm involved.
I'm gonna be bringing up the topics and and uh frankly, I'll tell you it's not even that hard to prepare.
It's just I'll cite switching.
But I mean, like you're not gonna interrupt.
Like if he talks if he starts talking trash, and you know, no, I'll but that's Ron's job.
Because they'll have an opportunity the way the format's gonna work is they'll have an opportunity to respond, and then we'll have follow-up time where they can interact with each other as long and I've just said very clearly to both of them you gotta give each other room to breathe so that the audience can hear you.
And you're doing a live studio audience.
No, well, uh, we haven't decided that that's actually the one question we haven't really decided.
And you're gonna do it in Georgia.
Well, though the yeah, it is in Georgia, and it's on November 30th.
I don't care either way at this point.
But if it's an audience or not audience.
No.
I mean, at the bottom line is the audience is gonna be at home watching, and I think probably less distractions might be helpful.
You know, but there might be a friends and family audience with an equal number of tickets, I'd get both sides.
That's the last thing.
Yeah, that's probably that's why there are people that aren't gonna be interrupting Hootin and howling and and just then I have to be a hall monitor like Chris Wallace.
I don't really want that job.
No, and that's how it was at the last debate, too.
I mean, I think that that was definitely something that we felt there was a lot of noise from the room.
People were very much they thought they were on stage with the candidates.
I was like, oh boy.
Yeah, but you know, it's sort of like um I f I actually have no problem with that part.
I don't I don't either, but if like you're like, listen, I want to be hyper focused on this, this isn't these aren't two presidential candidates, these are two governors having a conversation about the state of the nation and where we're at and why one governor is losing in droves, hundreds of his constituents to another state's gonna be state.
Migration's gonna be a big issue.
I mean, Gavin is the first governor in California history uh to have lost population.
I did ask him about that when I interviewed him.
I'm sure it's a topic that'll come up.
And you know, it's not it's it's not that difficult to predict where the what the topics are gonna be in this particular because I'm really keeping it state versus state.
It's not you know, I'm not looking at this.
I mean, I guess some some people might look at it as okay, these are probably two, you know, if if if obviously if Trump continues to run away with the Republican nomination, this could be a preview of coming attractions down the road.
It could be.
Um, but you know, I think things are pretty well set as of now, unless you know something changes between now and the primaries.
Um, but I think the country will benefit from this debate.
How do you explain sanctuary cities?
How do you explain your you know or the the most rigid laws on the books involving the second amendment?
How do you explain this green new energy phenomenon that has now put America at a at a decided disadvantage?
Look at the gas prices in California versus any other state.
How do you explain a thirteen and a half percent income tax versus no income tax in Florida?
So I think these issues are that significant.
These are big issues.
Yeah, and I think you should also talk about crime.
Oh, that's coming, obviously.
We'll talk about that.
And homelessness.
Crime, homelessness, drugs.
I mean, it is rampant in California to a point that you cannot take your dog for a walk or your baby to the park or your child to school.
That's a real thing.
All right, so you basically I I love this.
I love my support here at home.
Um among my my family.
Uh, but come on, you see you have to see a benefit here.
I mean all of these important issues.
It's listen, it's hard for me.
You know, it's hard for me to see the forest through the trees.
I will give you this.
I will give you this.
While I don't care for him, uh I can see the benefit of having a conversation and letting the audience make their own decision.
So, you know, I think you know, I'm gonna go in with my bias, as will many viewers.
Um, like I've said for a long time.
I think that you should be moderating these debates.
You're far more informed than anybody else that's moderating the debates from the last you know decade or so that I've been watching these things.
I think you'd be great at it.
And maybe this is the stepping stone to you doing one of the presidentials.
So I'll try to keep an open mind and uh, you know, hopefully Gavin will say something and uh maybe we'll all go, hmm, okay, that's not horrible.
You know, who knows?
Maybe he'll change our minds.
I think hell would freeze over before I was ever talking to maybe a presidential debate.
However, I'd love to do it.
Uh this will be fun.
And the thing is, we'll see what happens first.
Newsom changing my mind or you hosting the presidential debate.
That's a good point.
Uh anyway, eight hundred nine four-one Sean is our number as we get back to our busy phones.
All right.
Speaking of California, uh Don is out there.
Don, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you?
Don.
Uh thank you.
Um I'm a retired CPA.
I'm injuriated Hunter Biden's getting away with tax murder.
There's something I haven't heard people talk about, which is very real, and that is we get a second shot at this guy through the gift tax.
He claims in his email to his daughter, so he has to give fifty percent of his income to pop.
Well, if Congressman Comer is correct, he's taken in at least twenty million dollars, and he actually gave ten million to Pop or family or anybody else.
That's subject to gift tax.
And you're looking at on ten million dollars, a gift tax would be like four million dollars, plus failure to file, plus there'd be interest.
And the beauty is there's no statute of limitation starts until you file a return.
There's no way this guy ever filed a gift tax return.
So, according to the Washington Times today, it's interesting you bring this up.
There is a way that Hunter could still be charged with with tax crimes based on the undeclared income he made while serving on the Board of Barresponse.
It's your timing could is impeccable.
And David Weiss, lead prosecutor, he's the one that let the statute of limitations expire, you know, for not paying at least 124,000 on taxes and there's roughly one million dollar annual salary 2014.
You know, this I believe runs through the years twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen.
Anyway, That was aimed at shielding the Bidens from a case that it would have exposed a lot of evidence, the influence peddling, because that's their most vulnerable part, the whole issue with Ukraine and Joe on tape bragging that he leveraged a billion, and a net result of that was Hunter continue to get paid.
But legal experts say Weiss can revive that case because Hunter's not paid the taxes.
And he could be charged with a conspiracy to commit tax fraud, which would be a move that would lead investigators to evidence of Biden's uh involvement in helping Barisma thw thwart the state corruption probe to benefit his family, which is the criminal statute exactly on the issue of bribery.
He does not have does not have to be proven that Joe personally benefited from this.
So we'll see.
I mean, they quote Mike Davis, former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee and president of the Article 3 project to say, and this is a crucial test for Weiss.
Weiss is not has already failed every test because he didn't want to charge Hunter with anything, and it was only the IRS whistleblowers that sparked the sweetheart deal that exploded because the judge actually just didn't rubber stamp it and read the provision inside you know the plea agreement in the in the gun diversion portion of it where he had full immunity for any future uh prosecution on any other crimes he might have committed during this time period.
The judge said, no, that's not gonna fly.
Have you ever seen a case like this?
The prosecution even had to admit, no, we've never seen a case like this.
Then why are you handing it to me?
Uh so we'll see.
It's gonna get interesting.
Anyway, 800, Wayne is in Idaho, 800, 941 Sean, our number.
How are you, Wayne?
I'm good.
Thank you, Sean, for taking my call.
I wanted to talk a little bit about messaging.
I think the messaging that we're making to the American people, I'm talking about conservatives.
I'm a conservative.
When it comes to the border, and I wanted to make this recommendation a suggestion.
And it's based on a quote from Winston Churchill, who was quoted as saying that those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat as failures.
And we, by having an open border, um, we are repeating the failures of history.
Um, ancient Rome, ancient China, and many other countries have failed.
And have been doomed because they could not and did not police their borders.
And I don't think the American people understand, and I think the messaging needs to be is that not only individual states, like maybe like Arizona and Texas will fail, but the country will fail if we don't police its our borders.
Uh we we see the price that we're paying now because of Joe Biden's open border policy, and it has been nothing short of a disaster, an unmitigated disaster in every way.
Uh by every measure.
Anyway, thank you, sir.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
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