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Former ICE Director Tom Homan - September 11th, Hour 3
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Well, the mess at the uh southern border is worse than ever.
Now we have a problem at our northern border.
Now we have a problem with more Chinese nationals than we had ever seen in history.
And we're on pace to have under Joe Biden, after three years in office, somewhere between seven and eight million illegal immigrants that he has aided and abetted and facilitated into this country.
And the worst part is we're only finding out now after the fact uh the tens of thousands of them, uh, they suspect border patrol professionals that they may have some terror ties, but of course, we didn't do any background checks on any of the people coming in.
It's become an unmitigated disaster for small towns and big cities that have now had to deal with this influx of illegal immigrants.
But if you listen to this lying administration, I'm so sick and tired of being lied to.
You know, Alejandro Mayorchis, oh no, the border's fine, the borders fine.
It's never been more secure.
And every Biden administration, every Biden propagandist and the media won't even do their job.
Uh here's that Mayorka saying on the border crisis says we we've responded with a model approach that is proven to work, proven to work based on what standard are you talking about?
Listen.
Mr. Secretary, the mayor is somewhat clarified his comments, but not walk them back by any means.
What is what's your response to those comments?
I would say the I would say the following.
First and foremost, we're dealing with a broken immigration system, a fact about which everyone agrees.
It is one of the rare things about which there's unanimity of views.
And we need Congress to act, number one.
Number two, within that broken immigration system, we are challenged by an unprecedented level of displacement in the Western hemisphere of historic proportions.
We have responded with a model approach that has proven to work, which is to build lawful pathways for individuals to arrive in a safe and orderly way.
lawful pathways uh excuse me they're just letting everybody in there's nothing lawful about that process and those people that try to obey the law and go through the you know the arduous difficult hard task of of being invited into the country legally with the appropriate health checks and background checks and you know they just they get put to the back of the line that's how we reward people that you know are actually responsible and respect our laws our borders and
our sovereignty well eric adams mr sanctuary city new york city himself well no one considered we'd be dealing with hundreds of thousands of people well why wouldn't you have considered it and And you're blaming Texas Governor Abbott when Texas Governor Abbott's only sending you about 13% of that population.
The rest is being bust up to New York City thanks to your your pal, your friend, Joe Biden, who doesn't want to even give you a penny to help you in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Here's him.
Because critics on the right have noted that New York City is a sanctuary city, and this migrant crisis comes with that territory.
What do you say to those who think uh you relinquish your right to complain about the stresses it places on your city because of that?
Well, I I've I think that those comments coming from those far right, front like Republicans who are continually trying to distort the reality that uh we do not have real immigration reform, uh, that we should allow a true decompression strategy of protecting our borders in the right way,
and make sure that when you look at this city, the status of uh right to shelter of no one who created this uh decades ago uh took into account that we were talking about uh hundreds of thousands of people potentially coming to coming to the city.
Okay, well, he's estimates, his estimates are twelve trillion dollars.
It's what it's ultimately gonna cost the city of New York.
Uh and now announcing days after declaring that this migrant crisis would destroy New York City.
Now Adams is warning the agency heads that they've got to slash their budgets by a whopping fifteen percent by next spring to compensate because of all of Joe's illegal immigrants that they've been uh they've been housing in expensive New York City hotels, you know, taking away kids' soccer and b baseball fields at Randall's Island and and other locations.
Anyway, they know firsthand they've been there.
She's been covering this for for us from the very get-go.
Sarah Carter, Fox News investigative reporter, uh, on the ground in New York City covering this this disaster created, self-induced.
I love all these sanctuary city and and state mayors and governors.
All of a sudden they want to lash out about the very policies they encouraged.
Also, Tom Holman is the former acting ICE Director, Heritage Visiting Fellow.
Uh, we also have Venezuelan prisons now being emptied according to reports onto our borders into the country.
Uh anyway, welcome both of you back to the program.
Sarah, one of the things you have focused on extensively reporting for for this show and for our TV show is the amount of criminal activity that has been going on at the border.
Now we have the drug dealers, we have the human traffickers, you have all of the gangs and and the associated crimes and even rape of so many young people that are trying to make this perilous journey, thinking that they're gonna get freedom, and many of them get into the country, but it c it has come with a very heavy human toll.
Uh and now we know about we do we have no idea how many people that are on terror watch lists or have bad intentions for this country are in the country plotting, planning and scheming something akin to 9-11 2.0.
Oh, absolutely, Sean, and I'm here in New York today.
I'm actually on my way, um, driving here uh on my way to Roosevelt Hotel, and I was talking to parents um about that issue directly outside of one of the schools.
They are furious, they're concerned, they're worried about their own children and the education and the lack of education that they suffered with the COVID lockdowns, and now we've got over 20,000, over 22,000 is what they believe um illegal migrant children here in the city that need to be taken care of,
and they understand that and they feel terrible for these children, but they are so frustrated with the Biden administration, they're so enraged that the Biden administration has put them and their children last.
And I think, you know, September 11th, being here on such a day as today, you know, uh 22 years after the September eleventh attacks, and they're saying, has anybody learned anything from this?
Because we have people, you know, staying in hotels that have not been properly vetted, 10,000 illegal migrants coming in every month into the city, um, people that they have no concept if they're criminals, if they could harm their children.
And believe it or not, a lot of these hotels are very close in proximity to the schools, to the elementary school, to the middle schools.
So there's a lot of concern there.
And you look at it, you you said it yourself, 40,000 per student.
You have over 800,000 students in the New York City school system, right?
And I mean, think of what the strain that causes the city.
And now you have all these other students coming in, many of whom do not speak English, um, many of whom are gonna need extra help, extra attention.
And let's talk about the humanitarian crisis.
Look at what is happening inside America where we can't even locate 85% of these children that have come into the United States.
I mean, HHS has lost, has lost them in the system.
A lot of these children are being placed in homes with people that aren't even their parents that could be abusing them.
Uh, so it's exacerbated.
You know, when I talk to parents, and you've been covering this for for 20 years, The border crisis, and I've been covering this for you.
I mean, extensively, especially since the Biden administration has been so overwhelmed.
But what I can tell you, what I can tell you, Sean, is that right now, the worst crisis facing America is this border crisis.
And parents know it.
I think people are starting to wake up.
I think the American public is starting to wake up, and they're talking directly to President Biden, and they're saying, stop this, shut the border down now before it gets any worse.
And believe me, I believe it will get worse.
Tom Homan, I mean, you're in touch with these guys that are on the front lines, uh, former acting ICE Director.
Uh, what are they telling you specifically about people that are members of of gangs, cartels, uh potential terrorists, and and how many of these people are likely sneaking into this country?
Well, look, they've already arrested uh over 170 people on the terrorist watch list.
That's who they've arrested.
And here's what people need to understand.
They got 1.8 million galaways.
These are known galaways.
They're captured on video, drone traffic, censored traffic.
They're counted.
The Board Patrol sees them and they're counted, but they're not apprehended because Board Patrol is too busy changing diapers, making baby formula, making hostile runs.
1.8 million known galaways.
Here's what administrators need to understand.
Border Patrol's arrested people from 170 different countries.
Many of these countries are sponsored with terror.
If they've arrested over 170, how many 1.8 million?
I don't know, suspected terrorists.
There's a reason why 1.08 million chose the hard amount.
But they also said last week, correct me if I'm wrong, that they believe that maybe in retrospect, as many as seventy-five thousand people uh that they should have stopped and detained and sent back, uh, could possibly have ill intentions towards this country.
Absolutely.
Because you gotta figure after 911, we created all these databases.
The visa security program, the terrorist watch list, the FBI screen database, all these databases are put in place to prevent people from getting a visa or getting an airline ticket, come to the United States and do us harm.
And those databases work very well.
But what terrorists is going putting himself in a position to order a visa or get a plane ticket when he knows he's gonna be vetted and be called out.
Why not go to Mexico, cross the border, the way 1.8 million others did and get away.
This is the scary issue.
This is the biggest national security failure this country has seen since 9-11.
And you're right.
I don't know how many terrorists got through, but I I know one thing, I know they did, and and one of these days we're gonna find out there's gonna be a bad day for America, and this was totally preventable.
President Trump had illuminated migration down a 45-year low.
Illegal immigration down 83%.
So when you're when 83% less people are coming, that means the border patrol's on the line to vigilant.
How many terrorists didn't get in the country on President Trump?
How many pounds of fentanyl didn't get in the country on President Trump?
How many men and women and children didn't get sexually assaulted by the cartels under President Trump?
How many pounds of fentanyl didn't get across the country under President Trump?
President Trump's policies saved lives.
This administration is killing migration record numbers, killing Americans' record numbers, and this is the biggest national security failure I've seen in this nation since 9-11.
All right, quick break more on this disaster at the border, but they keep lying to us, saying, Oh no, the border's secure, the border's secure.
Borders borders never even more secure.
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Continue now with Sarah Carter, Fox News investigative reporter.
Former acting ICE director Tom Homan is with us.
You know, here we are on the twenty second anniversary, nine eleven oh one.
Two thousand nine hundred and seventy-seven Americans killed.
And we we've now set ourselves up.
I I we can't put the genie back in the bottle.
The people that are part of these cells are here.
And that what and what are their intentions?
You know, they are plotting, planning, scheming Sarah Carter right now for the next attack.
Oh, they absolutely are, Sean.
Look, I spent over seven years covering terrorism.
I I was in Afghanistan in the war zone.
I was in Iraq, uh covering ISIS, Islamic State.
There is no doubt in my mind, I'm still talking to sources on the ground in those regions where Al Qaeda is operating and working with the Taliban in Afghanistan with that government, um, and and utilizing training camps in the eastern area of Afghanistan.
And there is no doubt in my mind that they have seen the border, that they have targeted the border, that they have sent sleeper cells across that border.
We saw that with the FBI scrambling because of the information that there were possible Uzbek terrorists that came in or people connected to terrorism.
And just like Tom said, and Tom's one hundred percent right on when it comes to this.
Not everybody is gonna be in a database, and our adjudicators really don't even know what they're looking for half the time because they don't even have the time to look for it.
They're just processing people and bringing them across the border.
They're not able to actually vet these people properly.
And remember, a lot of these countries were unable to give us any information on the people that are coming here anyways.
How are you gonna properly vet somebody who's coming from Syria?
That was a big issue that President Trump had when he did the ban.
He wasn't doing the ban on Muslims, he was doing the ban on nations that could not properly assist us with vetting.
If we send a name to Syria, how are we gonna get that vetted?
If we send a name or uh a fingerprint to Afghanistan, how is the Taliban going to cooperate with us?
How are we gonna know that they are properly giving us the information on these people?
So what we have now is a wide open border.
We're seeing the problem in the north now.
We also see adversaries like China taking advantage of this.
And we can't even understand or conceptualize how far the Chinese Communist Party is willing to go when it comes to that border or what they've already done to access that border, whether that be gonna add one thing.
that the communist Chinese we have Chinese nationals buying up thousands and thousands of acres of farmland ranch land and land near military installations You know, I I I pray to God we're all wrong.
But I don't think we're gonna be proven wrong.
And probably sooner than later, we're gonna be proven right.
And then it's not gonna be a good day for this country and our fellow countrymen uh when when these cells are activated and something happens, and it is you know, I I mean the odds are so astronomically high now that that's gonna happen.
We have created a vulnerability that we we never ever we we didn't learn from nine eleven, clearly.
Just for that reason alone.
Anyway, Tom Homan and Sarah Carter, thank you both.
Appreciate you both uh bringing the truth to people on this.
But you know, what are we gonna do beyond that?
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It's almost it's incomprehensible.
To think back, it's been twenty-two years since 9-11.
2001.
Two thousand nine hundred seventy-seven Americans slaughtered.
The worst attack on American soil in history.
And um, and then you think of all the people that have died with 911 complications.
And and those the rescue workers that were there and didn't have the proper masking, were told things were safe when they weren't.
Twenty-two years ago.
Clearly, Joe Biden and the Democrats have forgotten.
They want the Al Qaeda five uh to you know, plead her a lesser charge and and only have life in prison and not the death penalty, which they all deserve, including Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the mastermind.
But I'll ask all of you, especially after our last segment with Sarah Carter and Tom Homan.
Has America forgotten?
Have you forgotten what happened that day?
Americans do not yet have the distance of history.
But our responsibility to history is already clear to answer these attacks and rid the world of evil.
I hear people say we don't need this war.
But I say there's some things worth fighting for.
We are very grateful and thankful that we live in a country where there's freedom of speech, that people who are either for or against a war can speak out.
What about our freedom?
Everything has went black.
This piece of ground.
Everything came down.
We didn't get to keep them by backing down.
Glass up popping.
People got hurt.
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in.
Oh, there it goes.
There it goes.
There it goes.
Let me ask you this, my friend.
Have you forgotten?
Oh my god.
The next building is just the world.
Oh my gosh!
Another plane just to build it.
Have you forgotten?
I saw this plane come out of nowhere and just ring right into the side of the twin tower, exploding through the other side.
There's been an act of war declared upon America by turns.
You forgot.
I can hear you.
The rest of the world hear you.
And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us.
Get out!
And those times we stand, who have you forgotten?
I'm gonna die right now.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Say your prayers.
I'm gonna die.
It's so hot now.
I'm burning up.
Help!
Help!
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
Yeah.
Dozens of residents that are sitting on the hills behind the Pentagon, almost like they're waiting for the Fourth of July fireworks, but instead they're staring dumbfounded at what looks like a war zone.
I mean bodies flying out of the sky, and you can't do nothing about it.
You tell me.
There's no words to describe what's going on out there.
Have you forgotten America's a nation full of good fortune?
We're so much to be grateful for, but we are not spared from suffering.
In every generation, the world has produced enemies of human freedom.
They have attacked America.
Because we are freedom's home and defender.
Have you forgotten?
And the commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time.
Daryl Warley, have you forgotten?
Too many are forgotten.
How sad.
Uh I I don't know what people's expectations even are at this point.
I mean, I I went into great specificity in detail earlier in the program.
You know, Biden go, I'm going home to bed at the end of a what is a rambling Vietnam press conference, and then the moment where White House staff literally abruptly ends his rambling Vietnam press conference mid sentence and and literally cut his mic off.
I mean, this is this is so bad.
I'm going to bed.
I'm so tired.
So exhausted, I'm so tired.
And you know, and he brings back lying dog face pony soldiers at the international presser.
I I i it is just so bad.
And this is who the Democrats want to run.
Just listen to this montage of Biden and this Hanoi uh press conference.
He's around the world in five days.
He's interesting.
Well, uh you know, there's a one of my staff members said, remember the famous song, you know, Good Morning Vietnam.
Good evening, Vietnam.
Uh and uh good morning back in America.
No, I will take your questions.
Five people here.
And the Indian scout, the Indian looks at John Wayne and points to the union stone and says, He's a lion dog faced pony soldier.
Well, there's a lot of lying dog face pony soldiers out there about global warming.
Not anymore.
Oh real life.
And nothing like seeing the light.
He may have a gay plan.
He just hasn't shared it with me.
But I tell you what, I don't know about you, but I'm gonna go to bed.
I see.
I'm just following my orders here.
Uh is there anybody having spoken to uh I calling on calling on five questions.
I need it from VLA.
We it wasn't confrontational at all.
Thank you, everybody.
This is the press conference.
Thanks, everyone.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I I I just cringe every single time this man opens his mouth.
I I'm embarrassed for our country.
And I'm just it is it is so sad, and so few Democrats up until now were even willing to acknowledge what we've been telling you from day one.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones.
Uh let's say hi to Jim in Georgia.
Jim, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for accepting my call.
I'm worried about Georgia.
I'm worried about Georgia becoming a swing state.
Am I wrong to worry about that?
Yeah, I can talk to you um another hour about that, but yeah.
It's I'm every day at something.
So my question is when I had my own business.
Whenever there was a situation with an employee, I made sure that I you know, I nipped it right there in the bud.
And w whenever I've wherever I have worked, there's always been someone to answer to if anybody got out of line.
How did Joe Biden when he was vice president?
Who where was his boss looking in?
How did he get away with all the things he got away with and nobody held him accountable then?
Look, maybe I just haven't been digging deep enough.
Uh many callers have brought up this point.
What did Obama know?
When did he know it?
I'm not sure if Obama knew.
Now he claimed and when he was bragging at the Council of Foreign Relations speech, he did claim that Obama you know, just call him.
Give him a call.
I don't know if that was hubris, I don't know if it was arrogance or whether or not he really knew and understood that Obama was fully aware what Biden was gonna do.
I I I there just has not been any other evidence to that point.
And the sad thing is is the media is never gonna ask Obama that question.
No.
Nor would he ever answer it, in my view.
You know, when when it finally got asked the question about Bill Ayers and and Bernardine Dorn, domestic terrorists with the Weather Underground, you know, it was a question that I ended up feeding to George Stephanopoulos before he was the moderator of a debate.
He's well, he's just the guy in the neighborhood, George.
No, he wasn't just a guy in the neighborhood, George.
was part of the weather underground in a 9 11 01 uh of all days uh he was quoted that morning in the new york times before these terror attacks saying he wished the weather underground had done more you know bombing new york city police headquarters the capital and other places I mean, it's it's kind of nuts, but did he know?
I don't know.
I will keep looking.
If I find it, believe me, I'll be all over it.
I promise you that.
Okay.
All right, I'll be listening.
All right, your job to make Georgia red again.
Um very worried about Georgia.
Uh Joy in North Carolina.
What's up, Joy?
How are you?
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Um I wanted to ask what your thoughts are.
You know, there's been some uh speculation that Biden would come in and do another term if he wins, and they would have Kamala Harris come in about a year and a half later, and now she's saying that she's ready to step in.
Who do you think would be her vice president?
Um what do you think her cabinet would look like?
And do you think that the DNC's doing a deal with her that she could do that and step in as president that they would dictate who she would put in to help her?
I'm not really looking at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if if that call comes and she's appointed president, if something happens to Biden in either this term or next term, if they're re-elected, if they were to be re-elected, I hopefully not.
Um it would be her choice to make at that point.
Now, if Joe's not up to running and she runs, I mean, I was pretty interested in the uh and my name came up in this interview, Chuck Todd's last meet the press.
Uh I he was never Tim Russert, never gonna be Tim Russell.
But anyway, so my name came up because Gavin is is gonna do this debate with Ron DeSantis.
And we're just working out the final details.
And you know, he was so he was asking about it, and he just closed the door shut.
I mean, he didn't leave open any possibility he'd get in this thing, which kind of surprised me, although he he kind of did it to me when I interviewed him.
So I don't know whether the you know, uh I if enough people called him and said she can't win or she's not the right person, which I can imagine a lot of people making that call, and they want him.
I don't know who else they might think of.
What Gretchen Whitmer, I Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, who knows?
Maybe AOC will run for president.
That's only if they don't win.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you.
When uh hang in there, Joy.
It's gonna be a bumpy year plus.
That I can tell you.
Uh Jeremy is in Michigan.
How would you like to see Gretchen Wit Whitmer as your president?
Absolutely not.
Well, I think she has those ambitions, but we'll see.
Let's keep her out.
What's on your mind?
Sean, thanks for all you do for our country.
Um, our country is in a disaster.
We are in a big mess.
Um we have to get our voting uh rights, all of our voting laws in shape.
We talk about a lot of candidates.
We talk about this candidate, who would be this candidate, who would be this, who would be that.
If we do not have a fair election, nothing matters anymore.
No laws, no nothing of anything.
We cannot do this again.
How what are we doing?
Every day there's got to be people working on this.
There's just there's no accountability.
There's no laws.
There's a Jim Jordan in the in the you know in the Senate there and coming against the um FBI fellows there.
Um how can he just sit there and say, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Talking about Director A, or, you know, how can they obfuscate and it takes a a a threat of contempt of Congress for our FBI director to cooperate with Congress whose role it is oversight.
It's very frustrating.
The whole thing is frustrating.
However, with that said, they're getting it done.
Now it's time for Hunter Biden and other Biden family members to be called before the committees, and they need to start answering questions About what they did to get the monies that they got, the tens of millions of dollars.
How much did they receive?
What did they do for that money?
First person I would call would be Hunter himself.
And uh he ought to be subpoenaed now.
Now he'll probably plead the fifth, is my guess, with Abby Lowell as his attorney.
I I can't imagine he'd want to answer a single question.
I don't I don't think Abby would let him answer a question.
I don't think he would risk possible contempt of Congress like they tried to do with Steve, which they did do to Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro.
So I would imagine he's gonna go in, plead the fifth, walk out.
You know, you do just cause as long as you show up, you can plead the fifth all day.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
All right, 9 Eastern tonight, Hannity, Fox News.
Remembering 9-11.
Also, Joe Biden's in a poll collapse and a disastrous time at this 26-minute Hanoi press conference that had to be stopped by his staff.
It was so bad.
Kellyanne Conway, Ari Fleischer will join us.
Sarah Carter, Kayleigh McEnany, Tommy Lahren, Frank Siller from the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
9 Eastern, set your DVR weeknights.
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