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GOP Debate - August 23rd, Hour 1

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You know, this should not surprise anybody.
Wall Street Journal is reporting.
Now, initially, the reports were that a plane went down and that it was possible, likely that the Wagner group head, Progozhin, remember he was the guy with his parliamentary, I'm sorry, paramilitary group.
What am I saying parliamentary?
Paramilitary group that was on their way marching to Moscow with the support, seemingly, of the Russian people.
Russia mad at Putin.
A lot of Russians don't like what's been going on in Ukraine, etc.
Anyway, so the initial report was he may have been on the plane, he may be dead, maybe not on the plane.
Well, Wall Street Journal is now saying that this business jet that went down, that Progozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group, among its passengers, crashed northwest of Moscow, according to Russia's state TASS news agency, citing aviation authorities.
All 10 people aboard were killed.
Footage posted by onlookers showed what seemed like the trail of an anti-aircraft missile.
And then the jet, you know, it was, you know, falling out of the sky.
One wing is missing.
Social media channels close to the Wagner group said that the Russian air defenses had shot down the plane, one of several aircraft owned by Progoshin, and Russian officials did not provide a reason for Wednesday's crash.
Oh, I don't know, Linda.
Maybe I'm just, maybe I'm just, let's say, too, too pessimistic.
You know, the idea that my initial thought would go to this murdering dictator, thug Vladimir Putin, I don't know.
I mean, that's probably conspiratorial of me, right?
I mean, I would say maybe in this society, potentially.
Yeah, and all the people, of course, that were poisoned enemies of Putin that died.
I'm sure those were mere coincidences, also, right?
Of course.
New York Magazine pointing out that Progozhin was aboard the jet from Moscow to St. Petersburg with six passengers and three crew.
Witnesses describing hearing two explosions.
Several videos show the plane plummeting to earth in the region north of Moscow.
Videos of bodies and the wreckage have emerged.
None as identifiable are identifiable as Progoshin, who was leading the Wagner-related social media accounts, alleged that Russia shot down the plane.
Flight data indicates that the plane had not previously been descending when it appeared, disappeared from radar.
Christopher Steele, yeah, that one, the one that Hillary Clinton, you know, shuffled money, you know, first funneled it through this law firm Fusion into Fusion GPS's conference.
They hire Christopher Steele.
Christopher Thiel comes up with a steele dossier, none of which, according to John Durham, could be verified.
And of course, he couldn't collect the million dollars that the FBI offered in early December 2016 to corroborate any part of his dirty misinformation Russian dossier.
Anyway, he is now saying that he received information previously from a contact had been put on that a contract had been put on the head of Progoshin.
So he heard some weeks ago from a source that a contract had been put out on this guy in Russia by senior members of the business community.
He said it would be a mistake, though, to assume any assassination attempt was authorized by Vladimir Putin himself.
Why would I believe anything this idiot has to say?
Russia now moving the nuclear weapons into Belarus, which is where I thought Progoshin was, you know, they had made this deal that that was where he's going to stay.
Why was he headed back to Moscow or in Russia at all?
It's beyond any comprehension I might have, but what do I know?
Anyway, so, you know, we've got this debate tonight.
Linda, you're looking forward to the debate?
I am.
I mean, listen, I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
I think it's going to be very interesting.
I'll be excited to see how the spin room spins it.
Well, the only show to watch after, I'm doing the show.
The debate is 9 to 11, and I do the post-debate show at 11.
I'm not putting all the candidates on.
I'm not wasting time on Chris Christie.
He's not a candidate to me.
And Asa Hutchinson.
What would you call Chris Christie, a distraction?
I'd call Chris Christie is a liberal media mob darling because he basically spends all of his time in every interview bashing Donald Trump.
And they love that.
They love when a Republican will do their dirty work for them.
That's when you know you're doing a good job, when people start bashing you.
No, okay, so he's doing a good job.
Chris Christie will never be president.
I promise you.
Leave office, 14% approval rating.
Asa Hutchinson, I don't even think most of the people in this country have a clue who he is.
Maybe some remember him from back in the Clinton impeachment days.
Maybe, you know, obviously the people of Arkansas know who he is, but I don't think most people know him.
I didn't know who he was, and I work in this business.
Listen, I could tell you this.
The five people that I think are running because they want to run and they have ideas and their own reasons for running are clearly DeSantis, clearly Mike Pence, clearly Ramaswamy, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley.
You know, something happened.
I guess what if Bergham, the North Dakota governor, had some accident or something?
Do we know the status?
We don't know the details yet.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I hope he's not.
I hope nothing bad happened to him.
So we're going to put some of them on.
We'll get some great analysis.
We should have a fun debate also, a couple of surprises.
I don't want to give it away right now.
Look, you know, with all the talk about Donald Trump not being there, I think these candidates and everybody else analyzing this, you know, they're looking at it from the wrong point of view.
Donald Trump has a massive lead in this primary right now.
And he's a guy that sucks all the oxygen out of the room.
And if he's there, he's going to suck the oxygen out of that room.
You know, it'll be him and Christie having a big blow-up, knockdown, drag-out fight.
I think Trump likes to fight, so I don't think that's a problem for him.
Those saying that he's afraid, I think is just silly.
I don't think he's afraid.
I think he's just calculating.
Why should I give all this time to most people that aren't even in double digits, but for DeSantis?
Although Ramaswamy had one poll showing him in double digits now.
I think Ramaswamy may surprise people because we've interviewed him.
We've talked to him.
He's likable and he's glib.
I think Ron DeSantis is probably going to look at this.
In lieu of Trump not being there, I think they're going to try and target him.
And I would expect that probably most of these candidates will attack Ron DeSantis, who has, you know, steadily been the number two.
I think Mike Pence wants to remind everybody of his role in the Trump administration and where his differences with Donald Trump are.
Tim Scott is one of the nicest people you ever meet in your life, and he's running a very positive campaign on making America better and having the country pulled together.
Nikki Haley, very nice woman.
I think she's there for every reason that you would imagine.
I think she's you know, but to me, it's an opportunity.
If I could start getting asked a bunch of questions about Donald Trump, I would not even want to answer him.
I said, Donald Trump's very capable of answering these questions himself.
You know, how are you going to handle all of this in terms of you're going to be asked some Trump questions of some kind?
I would not spend much time on it.
Tell me where you disagree as I'm going along my list here, Linda, okay?
Okay.
The second thing is, what are you running?
Why are you running?
What are you going to do to law and order and safety and security for the people in this country?
What is your foreign policy background, experience?
How would you handle things differently than Joe Biden?
And it shouldn't be hard to make it, you know, lay out a vision for the country.
You know, then they're going to have to deal with issues like election.
You know, to me, there's no doubt.
I don't think ballot harvesting should be legal in America.
I really don't.
I think that Election Day, if I had my way, would be a national holiday.
I think that make exceptions for the sick, the infirm, the elderly, and obviously military personnel that are abroad.
But short of that, I think people should have to come in to a voting precinct with ID.
I think their signatures should be verified.
Paper ballots for everybody.
I think that every single voting precinct in the country needs partisan observers.
Any party that's on the ticket should have a representative watching the vote going on all day when the polls close, the vote counting going on all night, and you declare the winner at the end of the night.
That would have the most integrity to me.
That would be the best way to do it.
And then you don't have questions about voter integrity or people wanting to question the results of this.
I think ballot harvesting, you know, in lieu of it not being taken away, Republicans got to get in that game, but I wish it wasn't the case.
You know, all this voting early, I think, lends itself to potential abuse and corruption.
And I think it takes away people's confidence in the process.
So, you know, I would talk about those things.
Yeah, but I see like that.
My point there would be, so I think I would come out of the gate with difficult questions like, how do you feel about, you know, what happened to certain people on January 6th?
How do you feel about election integrity?
And how do you feel about them trying to mask our kids and COVID and vaccine mandates?
Like, I would do all the hard stuff that's hurting people right now.
And then I would do the biggest.
And then the economy, I think, is right there because 61% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
So I think, and then I'll tell you the one big issue that they're going to have to respond to, and that's abortion.
And, you know, I think there's going to be some differences on that stage over the issue of abortion.
I would argue, and again, I believe in the sanctity of life.
I'm not pro-choice.
I'm pro-life.
However, with that said, if you want to follow down the road of Doug Mastriano in your great state of Pennsylvania, he got slaughtered.
Shapiro, the Democrat, won by the largest margin of a non-incumbent gubernatorial candidate since the 1940s.
And I argue that one of the biggest issues, if not the biggest issue in your swing state of Pennsylvania, was the issue of abortion.
And he had a very rigid position, no exceptions, even for rape, incest, or the mother's life.
And I think Republicans, politically speaking, now remember, I'm the guy that's buying 4D ultrasound machines and contributing to an organization and a ministry that gives free 4D ultrasound to save babies' lives.
I'm talking about preborn.com slash Sean.
And so I put my money where my mouth is, and I believe in it.
I also believe abortion is a heart issue.
But for the Republican Party, politically, I am telling you, I do not believe that six weeks or no abortion or no exceptions is a viable political position, especially in swing states.
Do you agree with that, Linda?
I do.
And I think the safest way to pitch that argument and to pitch that position is to say the following.
Just like I do not want you mandated to take a vaccine.
I don't want you mandated one way or the other to make a decision with your body.
You will have your time to meet with your maker, and he will tell you exactly what he thinks of your decision.
We're pro-life here, but we don't tell people what to do with their bodies, right?
That should make a lot of liberals happy, too.
Well, the problem with that is, you know, what did Bill Clinton say?
I can't believe I quote him on this, but he was right in saying legal, but rare.
And I would say legal, rare, and early.
Early would be defined as the first trimester.
Because if you take your position, that means, you know, the radical Democratic position, which many Democrats support, you know, well.
I'm not getting into the weeds.
I agree with you.
Early, rare, all of that makes sense.
But I'm just saying if they're radical.
I'm talking about politically, not morally here.
No, I know.
Politically, I'm with you.
And you could stand on your moral ground and lose, because you will lose.
it is just a political undeniable truth of the time that we live in but people get hannity's not even pretty panity used to be pro-life No, Hannity's still pro-life.
I am saying politically, it is not a viable winning position.
And Republicans need to face that truth.
Go ahead.
My point is, what I'm trying to say to you is the way to sell that point, the way to get it across the goal line, if you will, right?
Is to actually say, just like we don't believe in vaccine mandates, we're not going to tell you what to do other than the fact that we believe that when you have an abortion, should you be raped?
Should there be medical complications?
Should the baby's life or the mother's life be in jeopardy?
These would be times when we would have an exception, right?
A very rare exception.
We're not saying this is a form of birth control as so many Planned Parenthood places do.
It's a state decision anyway.
But the state's excellent point as well.
The state's got to make the position, in my view, I thought the Dobbs decision, that was 15 weeks, and there's the cutoff.
First trimester, 15 weeks.
That would be a politically viable position where you're not alienating many suburban women that want it to be legal, that don't agree with the pro-life position.
But it also puts restrictions.
You can't have these late-term abortions when these kids are viable on their own outside the womb.
Anyway, so they're going to have to deal with that tonight.
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It's getting bad.
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It was not a good trip for Joey, your president, when it comes to this trip in Hawaii.
It was a disaster, an unmitigated disaster.
I mean, it really is disgraceful.
And by the way, so he leaves his Lake Tahoe vacation.
He was just on a 10-day beach vacation in Delaware, officially now, more vacation days than any president in history.
Anyway, so they're huddling in secrecy this week at an exclusive home on the shores of Lake Tahoe in beautiful Nevada amid the special counsel investigation of his son because that plea deal went south after the planned exoneration on the plea deal.
They had the immunity buried into the gun diversion portion of the plea deal.
Oopsie daisy.
You know, the judge just happened to read it and catch it and then question the prosecution.
You ever done a deal like this before?
You ever see a deal like this before?
No.
Well, why are you making a deal like that?
Oh, because it's Hunter.
And I was friends with Bo, Hunter's brother.
And we have a lot of people in my office that like and are connected to the Bidens in some way.
Now he's become the special counsel.
Anyway, so Biden is on his vacation, which began Tuesday.
And, you know, you just couldn't have a worse time for this guy.
It was beyond embarrassing.
He's in a rented $18 million Lake Tahoe mansion, which I'm fine with as long as he has to pay fair market value and rent.
But the way he treated the people in Maui and Hawaii and the lack of urgency into all this, it's unreal.
You know, I mean, we had all these videos and devastation.
What was it?
You know, it's now the, what, 23rd of August?
And, you know, here, what has happened?
It happened in like August 8th and 9th, right, Linda?
My memory serves me well.
Pretty sure that was it.
Yeah, she's saying yes.
Anyway, horrific scenes of devastation everywhere.
Entire city blocks up in smoke.
Families burned alive in their cars in their homes.
We have close to 1,000 people still missing two weeks after the fire.
You know, 115 already confirmed dead.
If people are missing, that many people are missing two weeks after.
I don't know.
I'm getting really nervous.
That would be a worst case scenario.
By the way, if you want a comparison, 1,300 were killed over Hurricane Katrina.
And then the media just, you know, George Bush got excoriated.
Trump got excoriated over Puerto Rico.
But for some reason, the media mob always wants to give Joey a pass because his response was cold and heartless and soulless almost.
Just like him ignoring his seventh grandchild.
Anyway, during a 10-day getaway on the beach in Delaware, he's asked, well, what about what's going on in Hawaii?
No comment.
No comment.
He's serious.
Come on, man.
Biden arrives in Lake Tahoe for more rest and relaxation at this luxury waterfront mansion.
You know, he's asked about, you know, well, I'm going to go out there.
Why didn't you go sooner?
Well, I didn't want to get in the way.
Okay, there's nothing to get in the way of Joe.
You can't be that blind and dumb.
I guess he can be because he's not.
And he's beyond confused.
I mean, it is so humiliating and embarrassing.
You know, whenever this guy opens his mouth, just listen to a little of this.
Brian Shan, so Senator Maisie, by the way, Maisie told my granddaughter, whose name is Maisie as well.
She said, that's why I like her.
Anyway.
Because her name is Maisie as well.
You said that already, Joe.
Takuta and Mayor Rick Basson.
Rick, when we talked on the phone, I never, you look like you played in defensive tackle for, I don't know who, but somebody good.
I want to thank you for your leadership and this unimaginable travesty.
What the hell is wrong with this guy?
Dazed, confused.
I mean, just mumbling and bumbling.
I mean, it is so obvious.
This cognitive decline is getting worse by the day.
And then if it can't get any more obnoxious than this, you know, he's given the people of Ukraine, on average, $2,300 per person.
And he's offered $700 per household for the people of Maui.
You know, and then he gets into this whole thing.
Well, I can relate to this.
You know, you have thousands of people that lost everything.
And then he starts talking about a small house fire at his home that was extinguished in 20 minutes.
And now he could have lost his wife, his 67th Corvette, and that he could have lost, what else could he have lost?
Oh, his cat.
Listen.
I don't want to compare difficulties, but we have a little sense, Jill and I, what it's like to lose a home.
Years ago, now 15 years ago, I was in Washington.
Do we meet the press?
It was a sunny Sunday.
Lightning struck at home on a little lake.
It's outside of our home, on a lake, a big pond, and hit a wire and came up underneath our home into the heating ducts, the air conditioning duct.
To make a long story short, I almost lost my wife, my 67 Corvette, and my cat.
My 67 Corvette, my cat.
Really, Joe?
That's your message when we have nearly 1,000 people missing.
A fire that was minor extinguished in 20 minutes.
I mean, he just doesn't have a clue.
Or does he?
The media doesn't care.
Then we have this image of him, you know, listening.
I lost my home.
My neighbors lost their home.
And he's hearing all this.
And then you watch Joe.
He showed it last night.
Was he sleeping?
Was he napping?
Was he just resting his little eyes?
We ran a clock, and the clock showed, oh, look at this.
I will tell you this.
This Biden family bribery and money laundering allegation scandal is real.
You know, bragging about getting this prosecutor fired.
I mean, this whole thing now is collapsing on them.
You know, Jonathan Turley starts out his column on this today.
Barack Obama famously warning Democrats in 2020, don't underestimate Joe's ability to F things up.
Well, obviously, ignored by so many.
But, you know, but when he bragged in 2018 about, you know, unilaterally, you know, withholding a billion dollars to get this prosecutor investigating Burisma and his son fired, and then his son continues to benefit and get enriched and get paid, what, a million dollars a year or so?
Ukrainians saying, you know, balked, but Biden gave him an ultimatum.
I looked at him and I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Son of a beat, he got fired.
You know, okay, not a problem from Washington.
That's the real quid pro quo.
That was it.
Now we have a State Department memo shedding light on the account.
Indeed, the ultimatum, the quid pro quo, was all family related because our government, as John Solomon rightly reported, had taken the position that there was, you know, he tried to make this, oh, I fired him because of corruption allegations.
Well, that's not true because we have an October 1st, 2015 memo summarizing the recommendation of all these different policy committees and the interagency policy committee that the handling of the anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine, Ukraine has made sufficient progress that justified this third loan guarantee that he was tasked with giving them.
He was told to deliver the federal aid.
But no.
Then fast forward to December 5th, same year, 2015.
Hunter's meeting with Burisma executives in Dubai.
They call Joe.
Five days later, he's in Ukraine.
That's when he talks more about corruption.
He gets a black briefing book before he goes on any foreign trip.
Not sure he probably would claim he didn't read it, but he knew damn well that this was his task and job.
Devin Archer revealed Burisma's executives were flipping out over this investigation, described that, you know, Shokin was causing all sorts of problems that may cause them to go bankrupt.
That's where we need DC help.
You know, Hunter was being harassed.
Why are we paying you all this money?
They get Biden on the phone.
December 5th, he's there December 9th.
He leverages a billion.
Net result, they get their loan guarantee that our government already had as their policy to give it to them.
And Hunter continues to get enriched.
He continues to get paid.
I mean, it's unreal.
You know, evidence by the State Department was alarmed by Hunter's own work there and the impact of these anti-corruption efforts.
Nothing was done.
You know, he said he was fighting corruption.
No, he was not.
George Kent wrote then Ambassador Yovanovich, Marie Yovanovich, remember her from the Trump impeachment?
The real issue to my mind was that someone in Washington needed to engage BP Biden quietly and say his son and his son's presence on the Burisma board is undercutting all anti-corruption messaging and the VP and that we're trying to advance here because they're hearing one message from us and then they're seeing the Biden family get enriched.
Unreal.
Democrats ignored this quid pro quo.
That's why I kept playing that tape over and over again.
Oh, you know, Donald Trump wanted a quid pro quo.
No, it wasn't a quid pro quo.
Unbelievable.
Because giving the money was consistent with U.S. policy.
Not doing it was to benefit Hunter, the same Hunter and Burisma executives that were pleading directly on the phone to Joe Biden about their plight and the investigator, Shokin.
It highlights the flaws in Trump's impeachment, which we knew at the time.
You know, it would, you know, it's all of this evidence was out there.
Hunter admitting he had no experience.
Hunter now admitting that he was a crack addict at the time.
No problem for the Democrats at all, whatsoever.
These are unreal times what we live in here.
It really are.
By the way, with pump prices soaring, I told you about this wind farm they want to put in.
I just can't believe how stupid it is.
At what point are the American people going to get sick of this?
At what point are you going to look at what's happening at our borders?
Joe Biden now cutting holes in Trump's wall that he built to allow illegal immigrants to aid and abet them in their drug trafficking and their human trafficking and the illegal entry into this country.
If any of you listening to my voice right now ever aided and abetted people to come into this country illegally, you'd be probably arrested for aiding and abetting lawbreaking, A, B, probably for human trafficking.
You go pick people up at the border.
Good luck trying to put them in your car or truck and taking them to some state, the one they prefer, like Joe Biden's administration is doing.
And how much is this costing the American taxpayer?
It's incalculable.
And all the states now are being impacted by all of this.
And I love it that sanctuary states and cities, now New York is reconsidering this sanctuary city policy.
Well, what's going to happen?
They've already taken football and soccer fields away from New York City kids to build these huge, massive facilities for the illegal immigrants because they couldn't afford the $350 they were paying per night per hotel room and they ran out of hotel rooms.
It was none available.
The number of suspected terrorists now crossing the border, according to our very own U.S. Customs and Border Protection data, is up 15% in a month.
Well, how many gotaways got into this country?
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Everything with our borders was preventable.
Everything with energy prices that now is skyrocketing again, we didn't have to have that happen either, which contributed greatly to record inflation prices, which is now contributing to the fact that the average household is paying about $10,000 more per year than they were paying for the same items that the last day Donald Trump was in office.
Gallon of gasoline never averaged over $3 a gallon under Trump.
Now we're back to $4 a gallon.
That adds cost to every single product you buy at every single shop store that you go to.
Unreal.
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All right, when we come back, we're going to get into the Biden Family Enterprise Syndicate and the very latest on these very real Joe Biden bribery and money laundering allegations that are out there.
Anyway, we'll get to your calls as well.
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Anyway, quick break.
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You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
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I'm Carol Markowitz, and I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media, and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
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