John Solomon and Gregg Jarrett - August 11th, Hour 2
John Solomon, Editor in Chief of Just the News, Gregg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst and author of Trial of the Century, and Alan Dershowitz, Attorney and Author of Get Trump, are here to discuss the appointment of special counsel in Delaware for Hunter Biden. AG Garland named David Weiss in the case. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The big news of the day, well, there's actually a lot of news of the day.
And uh, but the main big news is Merrick Arlin announcing the appointment of David Weiss as a special counsel in Hunter Biden's case, which I've been saying is a farce.
It's a sham.
Uh it is part of the Biden protection racket at a politicized and weaponized DOJ.
This this is not an investigation.
This is the the executive branch investigating it itself.
Uh I've been reminding you that Weiss is the guy that let the statute of limitations run out.
The conflict of of what he says and what Garland has said about Weiss's power, contradicted by very credible IRS whistleblowers about whether or not he had the authority to go into other jurisdictions and and and charge Hunter Biden.
Uh and of course, we never figured out why the FBI had tipped off uh Hunter on an exp on a raid that they hadn't been expecting and an interrogation that never took place.
Uh why why Weiss went against his own office recommendations uh to pursue felony charges as it relates to Hunter Biden, and again, why let those statute of limitations run out wasn't necessary.
They even added a deal to extend them.
And by the way, now it is going to be more difficult for the House Judiciary and the House Oversight Committee to get any information out of Weiss or Shw Sherwin or any of these other people involved.
One big delay pack uh uh that is going on right within the executive branch of our very own government.
You know, two weeks ago the DOJ said, Oh, yeah, Weiss can testify in September.
Okay, what's he gonna say now?
Ongoing investigation over and over again.
And so we have the the Joe Biden bribery and money money laundering scandal investigation.
Uh just continues to go on and get pushed under the rug and likely push past 2020.
While in the meantime, we have uh Jack Smith moving forward.
He he wants trial to start January 2nd in the DC case.
It's it's pretty unbelievable.
One good piece of news, uh, thanks to that Delaware judge Biden's DOJ had to officially cancel the sweetheart deal that they had with Hunter, where they snuck in the provision that he couldn't be charged uh with anything else in the future, uh based on this time frame that they had agreed to.
Yeah, too bad the judge caught that, and now prosecutors have asked the court to disregard the the Biden plea deal, which now means they're at an impasse, which means this case is now headed for trial.
And by the way, the House has said as of yesterday that they will subpoena the Biden family.
Does this investigation now put that in jeopardy?
Let's play the announcement of Merrick Garland first.
In a July 2023 letter to Congress, Mr. Weiss said that he had not to that point requested special counsel designation.
On Tuesday of this week, Mr. Weiss advised me that in his judgment, his investigation had reached a stage at which he could should continue his work as a special counsel.
And he asked to be so appointed.
Upon considering his request, as well as the extraordinary circumstances relating to this matter, I have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint him as special counsel.
This appointment confirms my commitment to provide Mr. Weiss all the resources he requests.
It also reaffirms that Mr. Weiss has the authority he needs to conduct a thorough investigation and to continue to take the steps he deems appropriate independently, based only on the facts and the law.
Mr. Weiss will also continue to serve as U.S. attorney for the District of Delaware.
A special counsel, he will continue to have the authority and responsibility that he has previously exercised to oversee the investigation and decide where, when, and whether to file charges.
The special counsel will not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the department, but he must comply with the regulations, procedures, and policies of the department.
Consistent with the special counsel regulations, at the conclusion of Mr. Weiss's work, he will provide me with a report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by him.
As with each special counsel who has served since I have taken office, I am committed to making as much of his report public as possible, consistent with legal requirements and department policy.
We welcome to the program John Solomon, editor in chief, JustinNews.com.
He's been breaking so many stories regarding this issue.
Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, his new bestseller trial of the censor century, and in just moments we'll be joined by Alan Dershowitz, uh Get Trump as best selling book.
Um how interesting, and I'll start with you, John Solomon on the news side to to react to this, but it seems to me that that Merrick Garland, our attorney general, uh part of Joe Biden's executive branch of government, has now chosen the the one guy Congress needed to investigate uh to determine and ascertain whether or not the IR whistle IRS whistleblowers were telling the truth, or Garland uh and Weiss were telling the truth.
Uh I would imagine that part of the their investigation comes to a screeching halt now.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, listen, I think there are three things to look at this.
I think the first thing is that for the American public who's been told there's no there, this is gonna be a an impactful moment in the court of public opinion.
All those people who are told there's nothing until the Hunter Biden, Joe Biden thing is politics, now are here and wait.
Joe Biden's attorney general now thinks that we need the special counsel.
So don't underestimate the impact on the public that is going to have.
Now, on the process of what does this mean?
Let's take Hunter Biden first.
Hunter Biden faces greater jeopardy now.
His plea deal was withdrawn just a little bit ago.
He could do hard time just on the charges there, and I'm being told by uh officials in the Justice Department there could be a superseding indictment with additional charges.
So let me add something, John.
This is very important.
Wasn't it Weiss that his office had recommended?
You reported this.
You broke this story that his that Weiss's office uh recommended felony charges on the on the tax issue.
You also broke the story on how the IRS whistleblowers, and you are right, would claim and did claim that it was Weiss that allowed the statute of limitations to run out on what would have been a massive amount of money in in terms of the IRS uh that was owed uh by by Hunter uh in this case.
And and also notice Garland only mentions Hunter.
This is the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering allegation scandal here uh that we're talking about, is it not?
There's no doubt.
Listen, uh Bill Barr confirmed he sent the bribery stuff uh on Joe Biden there before he left office to Weiss.
There are several things that I think are under foot here.
And again, let me just start with the Republican reaction now.
All right, so Hunter Biden does have increased legal uh risk.
Um the public is going to take this as, oh, there is something here or there.
Now, that said, this slows down everything Congress wants to do.
It gives the Justice Department, if it wants to, an excuse every time not to comply anymore, not to expose its dirty laundry on why the plea deal got uh scuttled.
And by the way, you have a guy that uh now is a special counselor who even the judge in the case thought had given Hunter Biden too good a deal, right?
And so so good a deal that there was ambiguity about what it actually covered.
Given all those circumstances, Republicans have a legitimate grind.
is going to slow things down, give the Justice Department ability to say we're not going to comply.
Now, there is recent precedent that Congress will have under the wind behind its sails.
The January 6th committee ran as a select committee, an ongoing investigation was not denied any evidence from the January 6th investigation.
The Republicans will have the same precedent to go to the court and enforce anything they want, saying, You just let the January 6th committee do it.
The Justice Department did that.
There should be no I think that is going to be a powerful argument for the Jim Jordans and James Comers and others to have recent history is on their side.
I think it's time, uh I hear a lot of Republicans saying this to me for uh for uh Speaker McCarthy to upgrade this investigation to a select committee, one step short of an impeachment, and don't let Joe Biden fall out of the conversation.
There is lots about Joe Biden that is out, and next week there'll be a lot more coming out.
Uh they have an opportunity to run a simultaneous investigation.
They don't have to play second fiddle because the courts just ruled over and over again.
Congress doesn't get a second fiddle during a criminal case.
That is the advantage Republicans have if they execute it.
I think very well said.
Your take, Greg Jarrett.
Uh Weiss, the guy that let the statute of limitations run out.
Weiss that went against his own office's recommendation of felony charges.
Weiss part of the the DOJ himself, which tells me that they're investigating themselves here.
Weiss, who could be the one guy that could testify that Merrick Garland didn't tell the truth.
I did not have the authority he said that I had under oath, or that I said I had under oath, uh which the whistleblowers have been very adamant that in fact he said to them.
Yeah, I see this as a farce.
Uh more cover up and corruption by Merrick Garland, and he's covering his own behind.
I mean, the attorney general is not allowed to appoint David Weiss's special counsel.
Under federal regulations, and I have them right here in front of me, CFR 600.3.
Uh the Attorney General can only appoint somebody, quote, outside the government.
I'm looking at it.
It's in black and white.
Why?
Because Weiss is conflicted.
He's accused, as you point out, Sean, by IRS whistleblowers of political interference to protect the Bidens, allowing the statute of limitations to expire on the most serious felonies, tipping off Hunter's lawyers, scuttling plan searches for closing questions about Joe's involvement, and of course, negotiating this absurd plea deal, and a dozen other acts of preferential treatment.
So Weiss is the absolute last person on earth who should be named special counsel.
He's are you saying so what what Garland did today is not allowed by law?
It's lawless.
Yes, absolutely.
Twenty-eight CFR 600.3.
The Attorney General must point appoint someone, quote, outside the U.S. government.
Weiss is not only in the U.S. government, but he you know, he's part of the Biden administration's Department of Justice and reports directly to Merrick Garland.
So, you know, what Merrick Garland is doing is he is defying the federal regulations, which have been codified by Congress into law.
He's he's acting in a uh a brazenly lawless way.
And you know, look, Weiss has proven he can't be trusted.
Uh, you know, the the fix is in.
It's a sham.
But now, thanks to Merrick Garland's lawless actions, Weiss can drag this out endlessly.
He can let even more statutes run.
And if of course it prevents him from asking important questions from Congress about his changing stories, his suspected lies over his authority to prosecute and whether other U.S. attorneys in California and Washington, D.C. appointed by Joe Biden, block serious charges uh in other venues.
So, you know, any indictment against Hunter Biden, I think will now be suspended in perpetuity.
Uh, you know, the rest of this, oh, yeah, ongoing investigation, possible future charges.
That that's a sham.
I I doubt it will ever happen.
All right, quick break.
More analysis of all this breaking news we have uh today, the appointment of a special counsel by Merrick Garland into the Hunter Biden case, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Professor Dershowitz, at the top of the hour, Senator Tom Cotton, and your calls.
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Professor Dershwitz, do you agree with your friend and colleague, Greg Jarrett on the uh on the statute, correct me if I'm wrong, Greg 28 CFR 600.3.
It's a regulation.
This regulation that he they can't they have to appoint somebody outside the government?
He seems absolutely correct.
And when you have a case involving the son of the president of the United States and man who's running against the President of the United States in a contested election, you follow every rule to the T. You've got every I you crush every T if there's any doubt about it.
You do not do it.
You do not allow the other side to be able to say, see, it's in violation of the rules.
I don't know why you would have done that.
What's your overall take on the appointment of Weiss?
Doesn't it seem like it was a political protection appointment, protecting Weiss himself?
We continue now with John Solomon and Greg Jarrett and Professor Alan Dershowitz.
Uh big breaking news of the day.
Tex Garland protects the Biden family syndicate, Professor.
Well prevents any real investigation.
The appearance of justice here is as important as the reality of justice.
And the appearance is not satisfied here.
They should have gone to somebody who has no connection to the case whatsoever, never had any experience previously, and outside the government.
That's what the rules require.
Unbelievable.
John Solomon, as you look at this, do you see this bearing fruit?
Or is this just a delay tactic to pass the election, even though Jack Smith is trying to get a trial started on January 2nd against Donald Trump?
We don't know yet.
I think the next three weeks of behavior by the Justice Department in their dealings with Congress will let us know.
I want to point out one thing.
Bill Barr did the exact same thing.
He also violated the regs in naming John Durham a U.S. attorney to take over uh the uh uh Russia collusion investigation.
So the department has done this recently, even though the statute has been very different.
The real question will be well how does Weiss use this power?
And one of the things I'm hearing, I just put this on the table, is that they may go back now and charge tax evasion all the way back to 14.
The thing they didn't do, the whistleblowers blew the whistle on by the way.
But but John, didn't the statute of limitations run out because they allowed it to run out?
No.
Weiss allowed it to run out.
You can bring a conspiracy charge that allows you to go back and charge a larger set of crimes that are outside the statute if the behavior continued.
I think going to California is a signal that they're going to try to go back to those 2014 charges and possibly bring a conspiracy charge that you can charge many years.
The reason a conspiracy is a problem for Hunter Biden, it carries a mandatory present sentence.
All right, stay right there.
Uh, we'll continue.
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All right, let me let me go back to the IRS whistleblowers, because now that we have this appointment of David Weiss as a special counsel announced by Merrick Garland earlier today.
When you go back to their testimony, and Greg, I'll start with you first here.
Uh Joseph Ziegler, by the way, a Democrat, stated that the felony charges were recommended against Hunter.
And David Weiss went against his own office's recommendation.
And he points out that didn't happen.
He wanted to know why.
And he said statements that Hunter made in his book contradict what he was deducting in his 2018 returns.
That was another point that he made.
He also made the point that the decision to bring felony counts against Hunter was agreed to by both prosecutors, investigators.
And yet this this ridiculous plea deal, which now is dead, you know, was brought before the court in Delaware.
He pointed out instances where Hunter investigations were being slow walked and how all these roadblocks were being put in place by the DOJ and by U.S. attorneys.
He also called for the need for a special counsel.
But I don't think he was thinking of David Weiss as that person.
Or Gary Shapley citing examples of how this Hunter investigation was handled differently than anyone else's, uh, or pointing out that Merrick Garland falsely led Congress to believe all decisions on Hunter's case were handled by David Weiss, and Weiss had contradicted Garland, although he's now flipped on that.
All right, well, this now this appointment now protects Merrick Garland himself.
You know, to me, the fact that Joe Biden is not implicated by Merrick Garland just tells me that the Biden family protection program is alive and well and living in the his own executive branch DOJ.
Oh, it absolutely is.
And and you know, look, Merrick Garland knows what Joe Biden did.
Uh, you know, Devin Archer in his testimony admitted uh that they were worried that this was influence pedaling, which is using a public office to confer a benefit in exchange for money.
You know, it's using your office to uh for financial profit.
Um, in the criminal codes, as you and I were discussing last night, it's called bribery.
Uh and you know, there's no evidence that Hunter and his vows were selling any products or services.
No, they were selling access to Joe Biden and promises of future influence, and he knew it.
He was the closer.
He'd get on the telephone more than twenty times.
He'd attend dinners to prove to these foreign adversaries and business partners the value of the Biden brand, which meant if you need something, I can get it for you in exchange for tens of millions of dollars being forked over.
That's that's aiding and a betting, which makes Joe Biden an accessory.
And Garland knows this, which is why he appointed David Weiss's special counsel, uh, so that they can, you know, shove this under the rug and continue to protect Joe Biden as well as Hunter Biden.
Professor Dershowitz, your take on all this.
Well, you know, I had a case very early in my career where we were representing the mayor of a small town in, I think it was Johnstown, Pennsylvania, um, and uh the mayor uh had the right to decide who get who got the cable contract.
And the person charged with bribery was alleged to have hired his son to do public relations, although the son had no experience.
And in the end, the man whose son was hired, uh, was convicted of bribery, uh, even though he didn't receive the money, it was received by his son.
So there are cases uh in the books, and this case is one of them.
It's uh called U.S. versus teleprompter or U.S. versus con K-A-H-N.
And if you look at it, you see That there can be cases in which the payments were made to a child if the father knew about it, the father originated it, if the money was intended to get to the father.
I'm not suggesting that happens here.
I am suggesting, however, there are precedents for looking through the son and going up to the father if the evidence justifies it.
It is in the criminal codes, 18 USC 2001.
Take a look at it.
It's in black and white.
It basically says it the money doesn't have to go to the public official.
If it goes to another person or entity who benefits, that's bribery.
You know what's amazing, John Solomon, and and I've been hitting this hard today in my first hour, and and I'll hit it hard on TV tonight, and I hit it hard last night.
And that is the evolution of a lie.
Remember, Joe Biden as both a candidate and president over and over and over again.
I never once spoke to Hunter or my brother or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
And only in the last three weeks did that story evolve into, as we've been saying all along, Joe was never in business with Hunter, his brother, or any foreign business partners.
Uh two very different things.
And it's now evolved into an admission.
Yeah, and this is all because of, you know, James Comer and the House Oversight Committee's great work.
Uh yeah, Joe Biden met with Hunter's business partners and talked to them over the phone, but they never discussed business, never ever.
Uh, and had these meetings at the Cafe Milano with, you know, uh oligarchs from Russia and and all around the world, all of whom had donated and or would donate to to Hunter Biden uh and his fund.
Remember, he's an admitted drug addict at the time.
What services was he performing?
What services were the grandchildren who got paid some of these monies performing?
And and now the biggest spin in the media is well, Comer didn't prove that the big guy uh had uh any type of payment at all whatsoever.
Comer doesn't, the memo doesn't show a direct payment to Joe Biden.
And yet we have Hunter Biden himself implicating his father.
Half his income, he bitches goes to Pops, has to pay for Pops' home repairs.
Uh ten percent for the big guy, Tony Bobolinski's comments about that.
And and of course, you know, that there's much more to that, but I'm just giving you the summary.
Yeah, listen, the the uh the timeline that we now have completely contradicts everything that Joe Biden told us uh uh in 2019 and 2020 to get his job as president in this country.
And and after 2020, he said it many times as president.
He has continued to uh uh uh maintain things even this week, saying I didn't have contact with my son's business partners.
He told that to Pete Ducey earlier this week.
It's just not true.
The evidence simply contradicts it.
Even friends of Joe Biden, uh family friends are saying it's not true.
Devin Archer being one of them, Rob Walker being another one.
There is a bigger question here, and I think that the the big issue that Congress has to move to resolve, regardless of what the Justice Department is, did Joe Biden take any action as vice president inconsistent with U.S. policy that would benefit Hunter Biden saying that is where this we we now know money change hand, we now know what the foreign uh business partners wanted.
Did Joe Biden do anything?
And I think we're gonna go back and look at that Ukraine prosecutors firing and learn some explosive new evidence next week.
I intend to make it public next week.
If Joe Biden changed U.S. policy, uh and it benefited a po uh a foreign client of his uh son and his son was asking for such a change, or the client was asking for such a change, it's going to escalate this into a much more serious case.
And I'm not John, on its face, the idea that a vice president is going to withhold and leverage a billion taxpayer dollars for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor almost sounds obscene and absurd.
And then we find out that the prosecutor is investigating the company paying his son millions of dollars, and after the firing, his son continues the enrichment process.
Now, I don't care if it's the foreign corrupt practices act or the bribery statutes or even Farrah laws.
Uh there's a lot of violations of all of these.
Um Jonathan Turley deals with this.
Did the did Joe Biden benefit?
He didn't have to get the money directly.
As a matter of fact, they even said don't pay him directly.
You know, the latest is that the the benefits of these he benefited financially according to Hunter.
Yeah.
Well, you listen to what we were told, and uh Professor Dershwort will remember this case on the impeachment uh defense team.
We were told, yeah, Joe Biden did those things, but it was official US policy.
He didn't do it for Hunter.
I'm telling you next week that's going to look a very big difference when you see new facts, new evidence, hard cold paper will tell us something new next week.
And I think that could change this debate.
Joe Biden took a different action than maybe what the U.S. government was intending to occur with uh uh Shokan.
I think you'll see that next week.
By the way, uh no, um don't take this personally, John.
I hate when you do that.
Because you have a big piece of the story.
I know it's gonna be right, because you you have not been wrong on on any of your reporting on this show.
And now you have to make us wait till next week to know exactly what it is.
All right, quick break.
Uh, more our final moments with John Solomon, Professor Dershowitz, and Greg Jarrett on the other side, and that is Merrick Garland appointing David Weiss of all people uh to be the special counsel looking in the Hunter Biden case, the guy that gave the sweetheart deal in the first place.
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Professor, you wanted to weigh in.
Yeah, I think it's important though to remember that if somebody benefits from his son, he has to be aware of that.
There has to be an intent.
This is not an absolute liability crime.
So we're still away from being able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the president of the United States knew, encouraged, benefited uh from the money that was paid and the advantages that were given to to Hunter Biden.
Um we're not there yet.
It warrants investigation, and there's some strong suggestions that you know maybe there was some knowledge.
But the element of the crime requires an intent, and intent requires some degree of knowledge.
Well, let me ask you this.
Why then did Joe Biden lie?
Why did he say he never spoke to his son, brother, or anybody for that matter about these foreign business deals?
But that's you know, are we really to believe that when he fired that prosecutor?
Uh because it defies all human logic to me.
That that he didn't know that the prosecutor, after these panic messages, after the dev December 4th, 2015 call.
I we need DC help and Barisma executives with Hunter calling Joe Biden on speaker phone.
Biden is the brand.
It's certainly not Hunter that's the brand, that he didn't know what he was doing, that he had to do it because of the business that was going on and the and the financial benefit to his family.
But remember too that the prosecution against Donald Trump also uses that argument.
It says, why did Trump lie?
If he was doing something legal, he didn't have to lie.
There's a big difference between lying, not under oath, and committing the specified crime.
Now lying can be evidence of it.
I agree with that, but lying itself uh doesn't prove the crime.
Look, I never thought I would live.
I'm gonna be eighty five years old next week.
I never thought I would live to see a presidential campaign in which the issue is going to be who's the biggest criminal.
Who's the bigger criminal?
Is it the Biden crime family allegedly?
Is it the Trump Mafia?
You know, it's a terrible thing that we have to have a presidential election.
That's going to turn on criminality.
We have destroyed our legal system.
We've destroyed the rule of law.
We've weaponized everything for political purposes, and the losers are the American people.
We want to vote based on the merits.
We want to vote based on the economy, foreign policy, immigration.
We don't want to vote as jurors to see who's the worst criminal.
Greg Jarrett.
you know let me point out a couple of things you don't actually have to fulfill the promise For there to be a bribery, prosecution, and conviction.
That's right.
The scheme was to uh sell access to Joe Biden and promises of future influence.
It appears he exercised the influence in the firing of Victor Schoken.
You don't have to prove that to gain a conviction.
The promise itself, in exchange for money to Biden family members, is all that's required under the law.
Now I always laugh when I hear uh the media say, oh, that whole Victor Schoken thing, that's been debunked.
No, it hasn't.
Victor Schoken is on record, and John Solomon has reported on this.
John John's interviewed him.
He had already seized many of the assets of the CEO.
So, you know, that is a canard peddled by the mainstream media.
Unbelievable.
All right, John get John gets the A plus for the biggest uh tease on the show, which is that there's a lot more light to be shed in his reporting next week.
Uh, do you know about what day this will break?
John Solomon.
I think we'll wait for the Atlanta uh uh grand jury to make its decision on whether to indict President Trump, get that out of the way, and I'll I'd have some more reporting to finish up, but it will be these are significant documents that I've spent years litigating to get, and I think it will help people understand uh uh a big part of the story that we didn't have clear during impeachment twenty nineteen.
Well, you've done a phenomenal job on all of this as per usual, phenomenal analysis.
Uh Greg Jarrett and Professor Dershowitz, thank you all for being with us.
I know it took a lot of time.
All three will also update us by the time we get on TV tonight.
I'm sure we're gonna have a lot more to tell you, and we'll lay this all out with graphics in the most understandable way, so everybody has a full understanding of what's going on here.
Uh, thank you all.
We really appreciate your time this Friday.
800-941 Sean, our number.
Senator Tom Cotton weighs in on all of this when we get back.