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Aug. 8, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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American Playbook - August 7th, Hour 2

Clay Travis, Radio and TV Host, and author of the new book, "American Playbook,A Guide to Winning Back the Country from the Democrats" out tomorrow.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Our friend Clay Travis is with us.
His new book is out today.
It's called A Guide to Winning Back the Country from Democrats.
Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores all across the country.
And he's also become a friend along with Buck.
What's going on, sir?
How are you?
I'm doing well.
I'm about to head out to the first book signing for American Playbook that I hope is going to go well.
You well know.
I don't know how many different book signings you've done in your career, but a lot.
Trust me.
You show up.
You don't really know what to expect.
So I'll be out at bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey, outside of New York City, and then I'll be in Cleveland Wednesday, Atlanta on Thursday, and then on beyond there.
So I'm excited.
I'm going to be on your show tonight, which I'm looking forward to as well.
So I'll come straight back from the book signing, and hopefully this first event will go well.
My last book I didn't, it was virtual because of COVID.
Oh, yeah.
And it was just a totally different experience.
I ended up signing over 80,000 books at home.
That's incredible.
I've signed 6,000, and that took a long time.
I can't imagine how long it takes.
It's forever.
Yeah.
I mean, but what you do is you get the sheets and then you sign the sheet and then they insert it as a page into the book.
So it's part of the book.
It's not like a book plate, as they call it.
But all right, before we get to it, and this is an important topic, a guide to winning back the country from Democrats.
And by the way, not an easy feat in my view.
Man, you will really, I hate soccer.
I just can't stand it.
I was forced to play soccer.
I went to a small high school and I was a good athlete.
I was a pitcher on varsity, I think in ninth grade, 10th grade, the latest.
And I played on the basketball team and they made me play soccer.
Not only did they make me play, they made me play center halfback, which is the worst position in the world because you got to run the whole field back, play offense and defense.
I hated it.
But go ahead.
No, I was really worked out.
They could have used you on the U.S. women's team then.
Yeah.
Yeah, they could have used me on the women's team.
You were really, really angry about this this weekend, and I saw what you were saying about it.
It was cracking me up.
Yeah, look.
And by the way, the reason I made the joke about they could use you is because Megan Rapino said, hey, if a guy wants to be on the women's soccer team, more power to him, I mean, or to her, however you want to classify these ridiculous gender rules we have right now.
But look, Sean, I was in the stadium in 2015 when the U.S. women beat Japan in Vancouver, Canada.
It was an incredible experience.
I had my kids with me.
We all loved it.
It was a very pro-America experience.
And everybody loved that U.S. women's team in 2015.
You probably remember that, right?
Because it was taking place in North America.
You could follow them as they were playing in Canada.
They won and they were one of the most beloved teams I can remember in modern history.
And then what happened?
They went to France in 2019.
They won again.
But Megan Rapino led a woke rebellion.
This team that everybody loved in 2015 suddenly turned and said, hey, we don't need you, America.
We're not going to go and celebrate being the women's World Cup champions.
We refuse to go to the White House.
We will in no way acknowledge Donald Trump, even though he had an offer conveyed to them to celebrate, as the president always does.
And by 2023, I think at least half of the country, maybe more, because I think the general sports audience that roots for America in the World Cup or the Olympics tends to, I think, vote Republican more than not because they want to celebrate America.
They think America is a good place.
A lot of people were thrilled when the U.S. choked against Sweden and Megan Mochino choked in particular and her penalty kick missed the whole goal.
I mean, the penalty kicked, I mean, that should be, honestly, that should be a 99% kick that you get a goal.
I mean, especially at that level.
But it was, look, I am not interested in any sport getting involved in politics.
Yep.
She knelt during the national anthem.
She supports biological men playing women's sports, but I can't think of a time, maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong, that she ever had to play against biological men in soccer, in women's soccer.
Maybe it happened.
Maybe it didn't.
I don't know.
But so she takes all these positions.
I don't want politics and sports.
The worst years for the NFL were because of Kaepernick.
Yep.
You're 100% right.
And actually, that's my last book, Republicans Buy Sneakers 2, which is a famous quote that Michael Jordan admitted that he said when they asked him, hey, why didn't you get involved in politics during your career?
He said, Republicans buy sneakers too.
And you know what, Sean?
Michael Jordan's sneakers.
Still to this day, the Air Jordan, it outsells every single current NBA player with a shoe deal combined because Jordan is beloved in the same way before he had his off-the-golf course shenanigans that Tiger Woods was.
That idea of trying, Kobe Bryant to a large extent too, that idea of trying to appeal to everyone used to be the public mantra.
And then I think sports lost its way in a social media era and everybody started trying to speak to a niche.
And I think it's failed.
And by the way, you mentioned Megan Rapino, if she ever played against men.
Actually, this is evidence of what it would be like if biological men who identify as women were allowed to play.
The U.S. women's soccer team in 2019, as a preliminary, they played against the under 15-year-old all-stars, boys from Dallas, Texas.
This is just one city.
They lost.
They got wrecked 5-2.
15-year-old boys dominated.
Sean, if we had the U.S. men soccer team play against the U.S. women's soccer team, they could beat them 50 to nothing if they needed to.
That's how bad of a beating it would be.
Men are just better athletes.
They're bigger, stronger, and faster than women.
So the idea of allowing a man to play is ludicrous.
So you're basically saying that men are better than women.
I just heard that.
Hey, you're going to get me in trouble at the house.
No, I'm not trying to get you in trouble at the house, you know, or that men are smarter than women.
Go ahead and make that comment.
Good luck to you.
Bigger, stronger, faster is the reason I say it, Sean.
My wife is way smarter than me.
Trust me.
All right, let me get to the serious topic of your book.
And look, I vacillate back and forth.
I think it's possible for Republicans to get back the White House in 2024.
I think it's very hard.
When you look at the electoral map, Republicans to win the White House, they have to run the table.
Now, it used to mean Ohio and Florida.
I'm not that worried about Ohio and Florida.
But now it does mean Georgia and Georgia is in play.
I think it's more purple than it's been in a long time.
North Carolina, you got to pay close attention to North Carolina.
Then you got to pick off states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire, Arizona, Nevada.
None of those states are easy for any Republican to win on a national level.
And unfortunately, Democrats are better at taking advantage of the new voting system implemented, especially in 2020 over COVID, and that's voting by mail, voting early, and legal ballot harvesting, which takes place in many, many states.
And Republicans only now are beginning to try and catch up and encourage people to have, what, bank your vote with the Republican Party.
I see no efforts to expand out ballot harvesting, legal ballot harvesting on their part.
That's issue number one.
How do you feel about their odds?
Look, I think the right ⁇ so let me talk big picture here for a minute, Sean, because you're right.
Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, the election's going to be decided by what happens in those states.
But I think big picture, I think we are trending towards, and I'm a history nerd.
I think that Joe Biden is an accidental president, like Jimmy Carter was an accidental president.
And I think if Trump or whomever the nominee ends up being runs a America is awesome campaign, as Trump has done before, and as I think many Republicans could do if they were the nominee instead of him, I think there's a desperate craving in America for a return.
I'm curious if you would buy into this.
I think most people who were raised in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, which is a long period of time, we all remember an era of America where you might have different political opinions than your opponent, but you got along with everybody.
You could sit down and have a beer and you could disagree on political issues, but you actually would find things that you agree with.
I think there's a desperate demand for that to return to America.
And so I'm not sure if it's going to 100% coalesce in 2024, but I think there is.
I'm not sure.
Let me tell you where I am on this because I've never seen a greater divide.
How do you reconcile those of us that believe in border security and those that want open borders in sanctuary states and cities?
How do you reconcile those of us that believe in funding the police to keep law and order so everybody's safe and secure versus defund the police?
How do you reconcile those of us that believe in energy independence and we have more natural resources than we could use in hundreds of years and we could be energy independent and dominant and rich if we were smart enough to have stayed with those policies, we've abandoned them versus those people that want electric vehicles shoved down our throat, even though Ford lost $4.5 billion on their electric vehicle line.
How do you reconcile all of these issues?
And I can keep going for an hour.
Well, this is where it's a great question, Sean, and this is where my faith in history comes.
We managed to get through the Civil War.
And as much difference as we might have in immigration policy or in defund the police, I think defund the police is a perfect example.
Let me explain.
There's almost no one who will say that they ever supported defunding the police now.
I mean, Corey Bush and a few of the radical left-wing ideologues will.
But I think we won that argument.
I think the data reflects that defunding the police leads to a rise in crime, leads to mostly minorities being victims, oftentimes in inner cities, because police are not able to protect them.
In fact, I'm sure you saw the Oakland NAACP basically making the same argument that you and I have been making for years now.
They are on our side.
I think they lost.
I think Democrats are on the wrong side of a lot of these issues.
And if we can get a true marketplace of ideas and someone who makes the arguments in a cogent and compelling way, I think we win on the battle of ideas.
And I think that's why social media has had to rig things for the Democrats.
And I think Elon buying Twitter is going to create more of a marketplace of ideas.
And here's the deal, Sean.
I tend to be a super optimist.
I believe that we are going to win.
I make these arguments all throughout American Playbook, by the way.
If you're out there and you're listening, and I know a lot of people do for your show and my show, it's sometimes very frustrating.
And I know that feeling because I see people and they say, man, I just feel like so little optimism.
I made an optimistic case that I believe is going to be reflected in the future, that we are going to, just like we did after the accidental presidency of Jimmy Carter, we're going to have a repudiation of Joe Biden, who only won, in my opinion, because of COVID.
And we are going to see a repudiation of these left-wing, woke, failing Democrat policies all over the country.
And we're going to return to sanity.
I really do believe it.
Let me ask you about the Trump part of this equation.
I mean, he is far and away the leading candidate for the Republicans right now.
Nobody's really coming close to him.
The next closest would be Governor DeSantis.
But I mean, it's 35, 40 point difference at this moment.
How do you factor in if Trump is the nominee and all of these indictments?
There'll be one more, maybe even as early as this week in Fulton County, Georgia.
Look, I think the indictments are trying to take him out.
I think they believe also that it makes him more likely to be the nominee.
And I think the essence is they want to run against Donald Trump.
But I think Trump has to be smart.
And I think Trump has to be smart.
And this is what I spend a lot of time thinking about, Sean.
I write about this a great deal in the book.
Trump needs to understand that he can't win an election in 2024 by just focusing on the people who already support him.
He needs to run a campaign, Sean.
When I'm out with my wife and her friends, all these suburban moms out there that should be natural Republican voters, they have decided they don't like Donald Trump.
He needs to run a campaign directly addressing their concerns so that in the Philadelphia area suburbs, in the Atlanta, Georgia suburbs, in the suburbs surrounding Phoenix, all of these places where there are swing voters, educated women, moms in particular, he has to convince them that he's a better option than Joe Biden.
That's the entire campaign.
He's got to win a higher percentage of women.
If I were advising Donald Trump, I would say do whatever you can to make the case to them because the male vote, look, a lot of men listening to us right now, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, a lot of men are voting Republican.
It's not going to be particularly close.
This election is going to be won, I think, by moms in the suburbs.
I think it's a pretty astute analysis.
But I will tell you, there are way too many Americans that, you know, I just went over an Insider Advantage poll, how little people know about Joe Biden's borders.
How's frustrating?
Oh, how little they know about the Biden bribery scandal allegations.
They know everything about Trump, but the media doesn't cover it because they're corrupt.
Anyway, the book is called A Guide to Winning Back the Country from Democrats.
Clay Travis, our friend, has written it.
Great job.
Bookstores everywhere.
Amazon.com if you want a first print edition and Hannity.com as well and bookstores all across the country.
And what's your website for if people want to go see while you're out on the road?
Yeah, you can go check it out at Clay Travis on Twitter.
And Outkick, obviously, we'll have all the updates for people to be able to find us all over the country if you go to outkick.com.
All right, Clay, always great to have you.
Thank you, my friend.
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Brian, Ohio.
What's going on, Brian?
Where in Ohio are you from?
Where am I from originally?
Well, where do you live in Ohio?
Oh, I apologize.
I live along the river here near Wheeling, West Virginia, just on the Ohio side.
I know the area well.
Beautiful, beautiful country, my friend.
Glad you called.
Nice Rolling Hills.
Yes, thank you.
Yeah, I was just kind of reaching out, you know, speaking about all the indictments and what's going on.
Let's look in the future and what's going on and what that does for President Trump, which I see, it allows him to now start doing discoveries into the state elections that are involved, the FBI's involvement, their records, the CIA records, Pelosi's communications.
This discovery could take up to 10 years and, you know, or more before you get to the trial.
So I didn't know, I was kind of curious.
Well, yes and no.
I mean, you look at the venue, which in this case is Washington, D.C., you look at the judge.
It's an Obama-appointed judge that has been, you know, that doesn't even want comparisons between January 6th and the rioting in the summer of 2020 that killed a couple of dozen Americans and resulted in billions of property damage.
And we had thousands of injured cops.
You know, a riot to me is a riot, regardless of what the cause is or the reason or the rationale, but nobody was really prosecuted or held accountable for the summer of 2020 riots.
It's, you know, it's just wrong.
Rioting is wrong, period.
End of sentence.
That's not law and order.
Exactly.
But this gives the Trump legal team now to start cracking open the files that they haven't been able to get to before and see who else's involvement on the Democratic side is involved.
Well, we know a lot already, though.
Think about this.
We know from the Capitol Police Chief Sund, who's been on this program and been on television that he was requesting, based on intelligence he received, he was requesting guard troops in the weeks, in the days leading up to January 6th and multiple times on that day, and he got no help.
What about the four people we have on tape a couple of days before January 6th, you know, telling me that they heard Donald Trump and Donald Trump himself acknowledging that he asked for guard troops?
Do we need guard troops?
If we do, let's make them available.
You know, you put all of this together and then Lester Holt's bombshell report from NBC saying they had actionable intelligence and they didn't act on it.
That then is a law enforcement failure, and we can't have that in the future.
But, you know, when you got a political agenda, but going into this case, that's not what they're charging Donald Trump with.
I mean, we've gone over this chapter in verse.
That's not where they're going with this.
Because, you know what?
They'd have a hard time getting, you know, what exactly did Donald Trump say that caused people to go when he said, you know, peacefully, patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
I think that's why they didn't charge him with that.
Right.
I'm still thinking, though, that it allows them to be able to subpoena the various states' election records and kind of crack that open, too.
I don't see this judge going down that road.
Those that think this judge is going to recuse herself, I think, are dreaming it's a pipe dream.
And those that think that Donald Trump can get a fair trial in Washington, D.C., I think that's a pipe dream, too.
I think it's a fade of complete.
You know, now the Justice Department wants a protective order in terms of the ability of the president to speak out and defend himself and give information to the public.
That's a freedom of speech issue to me.
But they did it.
For example, Roger Stone wasn't allowed to use Twitter or else they told him they're going to throw his ass in jail.
So they stifled him.
They stifled Manafort.
And those voices were silenced.
They couldn't even speak out on their own behalf in their own defense publicly just to counter the narrative that was going on that we know this false narrative about Trump-Russia collusion.
That leads us to the seriousness of us losing actually our rights across the board again, like you've been talking about a two-tier judicial system that we've got going on.
But I mean, every individual that is an American should be outraged, no matter which political party you're affiliated to right now, because we are losing our constitutional rights, period.
Listen, I don't want Republicans getting in power and a Republican Attorney General and them, you know, having a weaponized justice system.
I want equal justice, equal application of our laws.
You know, we used to have something that, you know, we talked about what was called prosecutorial discretion.
And, you know, I think what we have here is just an overly politicized and weaponized Department of Justice, and it's going to play out the way it's going to play out.
I just don't think in venues like New York or D.C. or Fulton County, Georgia, not saying there aren't great people that live in all those places.
However, only 5% of the electorate in D.C. voted for Trump, only 12% in New York, and only 24% in Fulton County.
Not exactly a jury pool favorable for a fair and impartial jury.
I agree with you 100%.
And again, we are on a on a peculiar fence here, which way this is going to roll.
Unfortunately, you know, I think our voting rights.
Let me jump to the conclusion.
I think it's a fait of complete.
I think the deck is stacked against Donald Trump.
I think he will be convicted.
Fulton County, I could see the Georgia Supreme Court absolutely overturning any conviction in that case because I've read that transcript numerous times and the one line that they keep going to is so out of context that any good lawyer, I think, could just point out, excuse me, he's saying that there was a lot more than the number of votes here, and it was a long phone call.
And nobody during the course of that phone call once said, I think you're crossing a line here, Mr. President.
I want to be clear.
You're not asking us to do this, this, or this.
And I think had they felt that at the time, they should have said that.
Anyway, good call, my friend.
Thank you.
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Dana, also in the great state of Ohio.
Where in Ohio are you from, Dana?
Good afternoon, Sean.
What's happening?
How are you?
Just fine.
What I continue to wonder is when Obama was president and he had VP Biden in there, didn't he know what the name of God and Biden was doing?
Did he know what type of evidence does he have?
Could he use it against him?
The Democratic Party decides we don't want you to run.
And they bring it out and they say, here's what we got against you, Joe.
You get out or we're going to bring to the American public.
And for as far as him wanting to bring in National Guard troops into Washington, and Daniel said no, and the mayor said no.
Well, couldn't he have federalized them and brought them in anyways?
Listen, I think you're raising a lot of good points here.
Did Joe know?
Well, why did Joe lie when questioned repeatedly as a candidate and as president if he ever had discussions with his son about his foreign business dealings?
Why would he lie about that if he didn't think he did anything wrong or there would be anything wrong with that?
But now we know he took specific actions as vice president that resulted in the enrichment of his family.
Now, the media can ignore this as much as they want.
One little shift is slowly now emerging is the media is beginning to realize that this is a much bigger deal than they originally maybe thought, or they thought they could just ignore it or cover it up, whatever, because they're now asking questions about Hunter Biden's culpability.
They're willing to sacrifice Hunter at this point in order to protect Joe.
The problem is it's the vice president that used and abused his power.
And if you read the statutes involving influence peddling and bribery, you don't have to benefit yourself financially.
It could be for the enrichment, financial enrichment of your family if you take a specific action.
Now, I would argue it's very transparent.
The quid pro quo, Joe leveraged a billion to get a prosecutor fired.
And in six hours, they did it.
Ukraine got their billion in loan guarantees, and Hunter continued to get paid.
That's what we know.
That would seem to fit the statute to me.
Otherwise, why would a vice president of the United States of America ever be interested in firing a prosecutor in Ukraine?
Don't think it would happen.
So, and then you can, you know, go to the WhatsApp message.
And I'm sitting here with my father, and within days, $5 million from a Chinese government-connected energy company makes it into the Biden family coffers.
So, there's a lot here.
You know, $3.5 million from the Russian oligarch he met at this famous restaurant.
Joe Biden's at the meeting.
It's not that he didn't just talk to these people, he met them actively.
You know, he was the brand.
It wasn't Hunter, the crack addict, as the brand.
It was Joe Biden.
And remember, Varisma also said, we need help from D.C.
They weren't asking for help from Hunter.
They were pressuring Hunter to get his father involved to get this prosecutor off their back so they can stay in business.
As Devin Archer said, otherwise they would have gone out of business.
Well, do you think Obama knows anything and knew about it?
Would he be culpable if he knew something about it as president and didn't do anything about it?
The only time that I have seen in all of this Barack Obama mentioned was when Joe Biden bragged that he had done all this during a talk at the Council of Foreign Relations when he said, you know, well, you're not the president.
You can't control the billion dollars.
He said, call Obama, call the president, he'll back me up.
So Joe kind of implicates him there.
I've not heard of any other implication.
Do I think that Barack Obama knew Joe did that?
There's no evidence to prove that.
I doubt they made the phone call to Barack Obama and said, hey, your vice president is leveraging this billion and insisting we fire a prosecutor.
Do you support this?
And God only knows whether or not Barack Obama even knew about Hunter's foreign business dealings.
There's no indication that he did.
So, you know, that's a good question.
I think it's certainly one worth asking Barack Obama.
Do I think he knew that Joe leveraged the billion when he was over in Ukraine?
Yeah, not necessarily.
You know, presidents are busy.
They got a lot on their plates.
The hardest job in the world.
And I'm not making an excuse.
I just haven't seen any evidence that would indicate that.
If I do, I'll tell you, I promise.
Anyway, appreciate it.
Quick break, right back to our phones.
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Sean, you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
Why is the mob, the media, ignoring all of the issues as it relates to Joe Biden and these allegations and the revelations of Devin Archer?
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Bob, Long Island, New York, next Sean Hannity Show, the all-new AM-710 WOR.
What's up, Bob?
Hey, Sean.
Sean, I want to ask you about two things.
Get your thoughts.
Number one is your thoughts on the Russian and Chinese warships off the coast of Alaska, pilots told to essentially stand down in the Mideast, drones harassed.
I'd like to get your thoughts on that.
And as part of that, maybe one of your Hannity specials can have, you've got so many knowledgeable Fox military analysts like General Keene, KT McFarlane, Jennifer Griffin.
Maybe you could do a forum one night and just address all the different issues from a military perspective, which I think is getting lost with all the Trump and Biden news that's out there.
So that's number one.
And number two, must-watch TV, if you could pull it off, would be Professor Dershowitz debating Bill Barr.
I might be able to pull that off, but I don't even know if I really want to, to be honest.
It'd probably be very contentious, but I might be able to pull that off.
I'm not opposed to that.
Pretty cool.
I mean, Ron DeSantis has accepted and Gavin Newsom has accepted.
And, you know, we're working out the details behind the scenes, but they're going to debate on my show, and I'm going to be the moderator.
I think that'll be a pretty interesting debate, considering they've been sniping at each other now going on for months and months and months.
So, you know, it's going to be blue versus red, state versus state.
What policies work?
What don't work?
What's best for the future of the country?
I think that might be interesting.
I know Bill Barr is a smart guy.
I know Dalon Dershowitz is a smart guy.
I tend to agree with Dershowitz more on this than Bill Barr, but, you know, people are going to have honest differences on these issues.
But anyway, appreciate the call.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, why is the media now, why are they ignoring the Joe component, the Devin Archer component of this, what is a bribery scandal allegation against the President of the United States?
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